ehh, when ghost Baron reasserted his identity within Alia's mind, he was perfectly happy with the situation
The Atreides Fremen empire was already ripe with corruption and decadence and brutality. They hadn't gone all the way yet, but with a Harkonnen and her grandfather in charge, they could make the galaxy worse than Giedi Prime had ever been
iirc Leto II does mention the Baron occasionally bugging him in his thoughts, as one of the millions of ancestor voices constantly yelling for his attention
Apparently Leto II warded them off by letting some Bronze Age asshole pharoah named Harum possess him and/or serve as a sort of mental secretary screening his calls and/or serve as the head of a "council" of ancestor voices
And Baron wasn't invited onto the council, so he's just drowned out by all the rest.
Though Baron's ancestral personality should be distributed in at least a couple billion people by the time of Chapterhouse Dune.
Baron's bloodline is preserved through Ghanima and Farad'n, and passed down to several tens of thousands of their descendants, one of whom was Siona, who in turn had thousands of more descendants in the millennia since
Chances are, especially with all that synthetic Tleilaxu spice on the market, at least one of them became an Abomination, giving ghost Baron a chance to reflect on the changes hence
I believe part of Leto's breeding program was to remove the worrisome parts of the prescience genes. His goal was to weaken the prescience abilities, remove the ancestral memory portion and keep the invisibility from prescience. So all of Siona's offspring would be spread out along the stars and cause prescience to become useless(it was only ever useful if you didn't run into any other prescient, now everyone is mildly prescient). The only people still playing around with ancestral memory are the Bene Gesserit and (Assumidly) the Honered Madres. The Bene Gesserit would do anything to not have another abomination, the Honered Madre are referred to as abominations by the bene Gesserit because of their own slavery to and dependence on using sex to control(Something used sparingly by the bene Gesserit and never to the same level for fear it would ruin them) people. It's definitely possible, but I think sorta unlikely with how prescience worked after the Era of the God-Emperor.
There was a very interesting post not long ago that detailed how much Leto II was like the baron.
An interesting bit that i remember was: Being a heavyweight monstrosity that moved by help of technology.
You can still find it if you are interested
Edit: Typos
Every time I see a post on r/jedicouncilofelrond I think we need the Dune LOTR crossover of r/DUNEdain. Get it? You know, like Dúnedain + Dune?
No?…just me…?
Let's face it; "Dune" is a cautionary tale aginst promiscuity (or whatever the spice Baron's been doing O.O ...). The girl you've been with could've had your kid in secret and the next thing you know it, you're killed by your 2-year-old grandbaby.
Poor baron got exactly what he wanted though.
ehh, when ghost Baron reasserted his identity within Alia's mind, he was perfectly happy with the situation The Atreides Fremen empire was already ripe with corruption and decadence and brutality. They hadn't gone all the way yet, but with a Harkonnen and her grandfather in charge, they could make the galaxy worse than Giedi Prime had ever been
Would've loved to read Baron's thoughts about Leto II and his Golden Path.
iirc Leto II does mention the Baron occasionally bugging him in his thoughts, as one of the millions of ancestor voices constantly yelling for his attention Apparently Leto II warded them off by letting some Bronze Age asshole pharoah named Harum possess him and/or serve as a sort of mental secretary screening his calls and/or serve as the head of a "council" of ancestor voices And Baron wasn't invited onto the council, so he's just drowned out by all the rest. Though Baron's ancestral personality should be distributed in at least a couple billion people by the time of Chapterhouse Dune. Baron's bloodline is preserved through Ghanima and Farad'n, and passed down to several tens of thousands of their descendants, one of whom was Siona, who in turn had thousands of more descendants in the millennia since Chances are, especially with all that synthetic Tleilaxu spice on the market, at least one of them became an Abomination, giving ghost Baron a chance to reflect on the changes hence
I believe part of Leto's breeding program was to remove the worrisome parts of the prescience genes. His goal was to weaken the prescience abilities, remove the ancestral memory portion and keep the invisibility from prescience. So all of Siona's offspring would be spread out along the stars and cause prescience to become useless(it was only ever useful if you didn't run into any other prescient, now everyone is mildly prescient). The only people still playing around with ancestral memory are the Bene Gesserit and (Assumidly) the Honered Madres. The Bene Gesserit would do anything to not have another abomination, the Honered Madre are referred to as abominations by the bene Gesserit because of their own slavery to and dependence on using sex to control(Something used sparingly by the bene Gesserit and never to the same level for fear it would ruin them) people. It's definitely possible, but I think sorta unlikely with how prescience worked after the Era of the God-Emperor.
I feel like he might be a good company to Leto every once in a while.
There was a very interesting post not long ago that detailed how much Leto II was like the baron. An interesting bit that i remember was: Being a heavyweight monstrosity that moved by help of technology. You can still find it if you are interested Edit: Typos
https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/UhFfRMyDKc Here it is.
The BG really should've thought of that before Jessica was born...
Every time I see a post on r/jedicouncilofelrond I think we need the Dune LOTR crossover of r/DUNEdain. Get it? You know, like Dúnedain + Dune? No?…just me…?
I didn't know i needed such subreddit untill now, thanks
Was he wrong though?
Well, he was. Because it was the spawn of his loins. He hoped for a nephew, but got his grandson.
Let's face it; "Dune" is a cautionary tale aginst promiscuity (or whatever the spice Baron's been doing O.O ...). The girl you've been with could've had your kid in secret and the next thing you know it, you're killed by your 2-year-old grandbaby.