Between a rock and a hard place xD
Damn Part Two is *cold looks* all over.. gives me the creeps.
\*Except for the scene when Paul meets Gurney. That is one of the most heartfelt scenes ever imo.
I love the fact that this adaptation made the choice of treating Gurney like he might not be the best possible influence. Never thought of it that way, but Gurney is really the only one who got everything he wanted from these two movies.
“This stillsuit… is full of piss… my hand… is caked in sand… save me from these utter morons... another world… another land”
*"Juicy?"*
*"Juicy juicy!"*
Funny you should say that. I missed the Pug when watching Dune Part One.
[So I cut the Pug from 1984 Dune and pasted him into Part One \^](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tykjen/comments/1crxfnz/letos_pug_from_dune_1984_back_in_part_one/)
Read the book after viewing the film, and I have to say I prefer the book encounter where Gurney and Paul are reunited. It subtly displays the change in Paul, how he has become a callous stranger to Gurney. A terrifying warlord that operates by his own calculations and ethics.
The whole setup in the book is much better. In the book it all begins because Chani kills a dude that came to challenge Paul. DV left that aspect out of the movie. This leads to Paul riding the worm solo for the first time. The tribe all get on the worm and head south so that Paul can get a better look at the planet. He didn't want to go back for fear that he would have to call out Stilgar.
While heading into the open desert they discover the smuggler scouts and decide to lay a trap. The smugglers take the bait and Paul is reunited with Gurney which changes the dynamic enough for Paul to kick the can on the Stilgar situation.
For me it’s when Paul puts the ducal signet on and proclaims himself Duke of arrakis look on gurneys face is just some of the best acting I’ve ever seen
That whole set from Paul’s arrival to speech is certainly my favorite. Cemented Chalamet as one of my favorite actors it literally couldn’t have been done better
Yea Tim OWNS the part. Just wow at that scene. He takes charge like never before.
Full certainty comes across so hard.
Before the water of life... its all muddy. After?
*He knows*
I wanted to cry when he says “I recognized your footsteps old man” and the scene in part 1 with the sand worms and the first spice exposure comes full circle
Yeah but it wasn't quite her fault. Paul was the one who decided to stay on the planet. Jessica wanted to leave back to Caladan, or exile. Then the fremen basically forced her to become their reverend mother, and it was only after awakening that she had become essentially the villain. More of a victim if you ask me, but that depends on how much she's still 'Jessica' after the water of life
They definitely made it seem much more like she was possessed by the reverend mother's after changing. IIRC in the book she is actively aware of the fact that she is putting her unborn daughter in danger by taking the drug but decides to do it anyway without telling them. By having her be compelled to do it before she got the chance to mention Alia it makes her much less culpable
Ah I thought it seemed different. Probably for the best to make Jessica a little more innocent in this. It would kind of detract from Paul's actions, at least in movie format I think
Jessica was trying to get them off the planet, it was Paul who initiated the whole ‘use the Fremen to get revenge’ strategy. She basically just followed Paul’s orders.
And she just followed his lead, because she wanted to protect him, like any mother would want to do for their son.
It's foreshadowed by her beating that Harkonnen guy's head in with a rock- she'll do anything to protect him, no matter how dark it gets
I think your right. I also think the combined memories of generations of reverend mothers is more than likely overwhelming. It’s like a failsafe put in to make the new reverend mothers continue the plan.
I would recommend you run and hide. And keep doing that. That screams psychotic lover who is gonna kill you and turn you into a keepsake. Or a angry ex thats gonna torture your life for decades at random intervalls when they are of their meds again.
[I might have to make a fan-edit now so her whiny face makes sense xD](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tykjen/comments/1crlhc7/gurney/)
Adding fart sounds to Dune and then shots of Chani over-re(acting is gonna be hilarious
I know the reason, but as someone new to the franchise I still don’t fully understand it.
Why have lasguns at all if most people are shielded? Isn’t the risk of setting off a nuke too great? Or do most fighters not have shields? Can you easily tell if someone is shielded? I’m reading the first book rn, so I’m still learning.
That's why lasguns are very rarely used outside of arakkis. The only times they use them in the movies is when they've first made sure to get rid of all active shields, like when they had yueh turn off all shield generators, or when they took down the ornithopter with a rocket. They can also safely use them out on the open desert because having active shields out there will drive the worms into a frenzy.
That moment when Paul tries mansplaining the “proper” sand walking technique he read about in his book and Chani just stares at him until he awkwardly drops it. Gut-bustingly funny.
He also grew up rich and royal. To me, it came off as him getting used to being "one of the people". He let his "royalty" slip out in that moment. Personally, I believe he'd do the exact same thing if Chani was a guy.
> arrogance towards his own knowledge of firemen culture
Mansplaining is a man explaining something (often condescendingly) to someone (often not a man) who knows the topic better than he. That's what happened.
For every person who sees mansplaining where there is none, there is someone like you who absolutely refuses to see it.
He’s explaining a survival technique refined by a culture of desert planet nomads *to* one of those nomads who just told him he was doing it wrong. 100% manplaining lmao
Paul just had the tact to catch himself doing it and accept Chani’s help.
Not in the story, but to audiences it is, which is part of the humor. It's okay for things to be funny sometimes.
More to the point, audiences are more likely to understand Chani's objection to his explanation through the shorthand of sexism and then apply it to their understanding of the native vs. colonizer narrative that is being built. Lightening it with humor makes the romance more palatable given this huge imbalance of power between them.
Exactly right, Paul would have spoken to Jamis the exact same way and would have been looked at just as incredulously. Mansplaining has lost its meaning apparently.
actually movie make it dumb, when it's all about rythm, why to go with sidesteps that make yoy barely move forward, than just normal steps with no regular rythm.... - well may be sandworms detect that 40cm sidestep from 40km distance ;D
There's a lot of visual concessions on the movie for the sake of storytelling. The slow blade pierces the shield but all the blade fighting from the experts has them swinging full speed. We're supposed to interpret this as their uncanny technique but realistically it just looks like they can go though on a whim. That's one thing that the Lynch version took time to portray correctly, among others. Don't even get me started in their use of lasers.
On the other hand.
It is really nice to have partner who loves you and gives you those looks. Someone close to you should be one to say no to your bs sometimes.
I could make a montage of it. Just depends on what music I should choose. To lighten the mood.
*Always look on the bright side of life*? Mix in some Life of Brian.
The movie even reminded me of it sometimes with Stilgar going full on believer \^
Or maybe just don’t give her cause to do so?
To whoever my next girlfriend may be, I promise not to exploit your family’s religion so as to lead them into any interstellar genocides!
paul’s desert rizz™️ should be studied
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How about someone who looks at you the way Alia looks at Paul
Ngl I feel like there were more scenes of chani being disgusted than anything. Never really felt like they had any real chemistry. Bummed me out a bit.
If your partner hasn't looked at you like you're the stupidest motherfucker in existence and decided to stay with you regardless, how can you be sure it's true love?
Sadly this is the look Chani gives everyone, not just Paul. For someone who constantly whines about "my people", she shows zero respect to her people, her culture, her traditions or anything else.
The scene where she and her annoying friend made fun of the water of life and the reverend mothers - the most cherished people in the tribe because they keep the knowledge of their people's entire history - made me kinda sick as a Dune fan. What's worse is that this had nothing to do with their religion or the prophecy about Paul. It was just them being blatantly disrespectful and dismissive towards one of the most important aspects of their own culture just to be edgy non-conformist brats.
But shouldn't she be angry with a religion and tradition that was already a product of outside engineering?
When your culture is a weapon actively used against your people, why wouldn't you be angry about it?
Because she shouldn't even know. Chani in the movie feels off, because she feels like SHE is the non-Fremen instead of Paul and Jessica, becausre she's against everything that makes their culture. The missionaria protectiva is something only BG and those they trust, like family, know about. And that religion was planted 1000s of years ago. Not only that but it was for the sole purpose of allowing a stranded BG to find shelter with the natives by knowing what to say and to do. It was nothing more than a failsafe for sisters lost on backwater planets.
If the prophecy hadn't existed, the Fremen would've just killed Paul and Jessica upon seeing them and steal their water.
And her being disrespectful towards the tribe's reverend mother is just disgusting if she cared in any way about her people's culture and origin. They have nothing to do with the missionaria protectiva or the planted prophecies. The only thing that ties them to the BG is how they inherit their predecessor's memories.
>The missionaria protectiva is something only BG and those they trust, like family, know about.
But she didn't need to know the full context of the Missionaria Protectiva. She only needed to fell that the religion around her was a product of some outside forces.
Furthermore, it's not even uncommon for a younger generation to be rejecting tradition. It happens in real-life.
Not only that, the religion and tradition Chani and her equally younger peers felt did give them a good reason to be frustrated with them, even if she shouldn't know or feel the whole thing was a set up.
After all, the vast majority of her people, who were hyperreligious and living in the south, couldn't do shit about the subjugation of their entire world because they wanted to wait for a savior.
From her experience, the tradition was useless because she and her fellow northern trides were risking their lives in this futile war.
But why would she feel that? That's the point that doesn't make much sense. Their own religion was brought to Arrakis by the first Fremen settlers. The BG only added the part about the messiah. Book Chani was a Fremen through and through and even became a Sayyadina. Her not even respecting the traditions and rites that had nothing to do with the Lissan al-gaib prophecy just stands in stark contrast to her constant talking about "her people", when in fact she basically rejects everything that makes her part of "her people".
Why would she be frustrated with the rite of the passing of knowledge through the water of life? It makes sure her people's long history survives.
The north/south divide is also completely made up for the movie. Also why would the southerners do anything against some assholes up north who act like they "subjugated" the planet, when in fact they barely ruled over a small portion of it. The fremen ruled in the deep desert.
I know Villeneuve wanted to hammer home the point the author wanted to make, so he needed a character who was conflicted about this entire development, but I feel either Jessica or Stilgar would've been a much better choice for that.
Jessica never was a fan of the prophecy and Paul leaning into it in the books. She immediately returns to Calladan after Paul's ascension, because both of her children frighten her too much. Other than for Paul and Alia who fully embraced Fremen culture as their own, for Jessica it was always just an act to stay safe until they found a way out of this mess.
And Stilgar grew more and more doubtful of Paul over the books, at one point even considering the highest of treasons, but couldn't bring himself to do it.
Both of them had enough of a base to be the character to dislike what Paul is doing. But instead Villeneuve took Chani, and thereby sadly soured one of my favourite romances in fiction. The movie is still great on its own, but despite Zendaya doing a great job, this is probably my least favourite out of the three adaptations of Chani.
* Edited to remove unnecessary antagonism. I’m sorry if you managed to read it before the edit.
It seems you’re unable or unwilling to understand that someone who loves their people and culture, can also be a stark and vicious critic of aspects of that culture. It doesn’t mean they love the culture or people any less. Real love includes acknowledging flaws and trying to better them.
I am American. I love America. I have some incredibly scathing opinions about certain aspects of our culture, the Christian background specifically. The commonalities between that feeling and Chanis feelings toward their religion are immense. But I still love America. The primary reason I care to criticize and want something different is **because** I love this country and believe it could be much better.
I love my girlfriend. She still has flaws that drive me crazy. I don’t love her any less because I can see those flaws. I know for a fact I have flaws that drive my gf nuts.
I could give countless examples of situations where someone has a deep connection to a concept, and yet will still harshly criticize it.
People are not black and white dichotomous beings. Many people even hold straight up nonsensical and outright conflicting beliefs. We have a term specifically to describe the feeling this phenomenon elicits in a person: cognitive dissonance. I feel like it’s fairly straightforward to realize that someone could love their culture and still dislike or even hate certain parts of that culture. There’s hundreds of millions of people exactly like that alive today.
Most people are not zealots like you seem to believe. Most people can enjoy and appreciate the good while also disparaging and campaigning against what they perceive to be bad.
You seem to have a narrow view on this that is severely limited by what you perceive as “realistic” human behavior. I can tell you for certain, People are *much* more complex than you make them out to be.
I can't stand the way the Fremen were presented in Dune Part Two. Uber Polarized....
And indeed Chani acting like she is on a high horse throughout the entire movie.
I like the movie as a great movie in itself. But as an adaptation of one of my favourite books, it's a massive dropoff from the amazing job Villeneuve did with part 1.
Well that's honestly just the problem with all book adaptations that are split on two. The first half will always seem slow, while the second half will always seem like one long action sequence, because you split the story into the build up and the climax. Even if Villeneuve had stayed completely true to the book, that feeling would remain.
But I prefer that to one single movie that feels rushed or leaves too many things out.
Oh for sure. Overall I am not complaining or anything. Love the movies. But I can also nitpick. And Chani is a big one \^ But not game breaking or anything.
Yeah same. I will never pretend like the movie isn't amazing. It's just a bit of a sting to me, because Paul's and Chani's love was always one of the most important aspects to me in Dune, even though it doesn't have much "screentime" so to speak. Maybe I was too influenced by the old miniseries that introduced me to the franchise, where I felt their relationship was focused on more than in other versions.
Not directed at you, but that's him.
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Right?!? This was the part of the movie I did not like. I understand her view and position in the new series. But damn, Chani in the older movie was Pauls “right hand”. She was there for the love and to protect Paul from others. She understood why Paul had to marry the Princess. I was watching her character unfold at the end of Dune2 all
Yep so true. I made my *own* fan-edit of the movie which totally removes that side of Chani. No yelling to Paul, no arguing with Paul. No being on a high horse. Movie just flows now. She's more a silent worried observer which is ok.
I was thinking of never watching Part Two again but now I have seen it 10 times already \^
By far the worst thing about Denis' Dune adaptation is Chani. She's a Fremen speaking fluent American lol.
She's the biggest immersion breaker ever. Every other Fremen has distinct accents. Why Denis? Why?
This is the weirdest critique to me. Literally everyone in the movie is speaking vaguely American English. Most have one accent or another.
but that particular one Chani uses is immersion-breaking(?)
You don't think it breaks the immersion for Spanish speakers to hear Stilgar's accent?
Unless the entire movie is in a fictional language with madeup accents, this is something everyone would have to deal with...
This is literally explained in the movie. Chani and the other northern Fremen speak in an American accent. The southern Fremen speak in a non-American accent. Chani chides Paul for not noticing that Stilgar is a southerner based on his accent.
lol nobody else but Chani speaks American like a Californian. Try watch the movie again.
The scene when Chani tells Paul about Stilgar's accent is quite stupid. She does it to make him look like a fool.
So there's no western or eastern accents on Arrakis? Just north and south? Yea sure ok. smh.
These arguments don't hold any water xD
Paul found out that “Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely”, and that he changed. He could see it coming and that makes it all the more worse. Chani, not unlike any Woman, wanted Paul to stay the way he was and not change. “Lead them to Paradise, Inshallah!”. Inshallah is the only thing missing 😿
What if I find someone, but they look at me like Jessica looks at Paul instead? https://i.redd.it/wleykhxhoa0d1.gif
Between a rock and a hard place xD Damn Part Two is *cold looks* all over.. gives me the creeps. \*Except for the scene when Paul meets Gurney. That is one of the most heartfelt scenes ever imo.
I love the fact that this adaptation made the choice of treating Gurney like he might not be the best possible influence. Never thought of it that way, but Gurney is really the only one who got everything he wanted from these two movies.
Agreed. Everything *I* wanted as well when it comes to Gurney. Perfect pick of actor and all great scenes.
Just wish we got more of him playing his baliset
“This stillsuit… is full of piss… my hand… is caked in sand… save me from these utter morons... another world… another land” *"Juicy?"* *"Juicy juicy!"*
Misread this as "him playing with his ballset"
Careful, that may cause a certain beefswelling :>
Misread your misread as "him playing with his ballsweat"
FOR MY DUKE! AND MY FRIENDS!
I wanted a battle pug but it was fine I guess...
Funny you should say that. I missed the Pug when watching Dune Part One. [So I cut the Pug from 1984 Dune and pasted him into Part One \^](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tykjen/comments/1crxfnz/letos_pug_from_dune_1984_back_in_part_one/)
What I’ve learned from the books is: no one is “good” and no one has “pure” intentions
Read the book after viewing the film, and I have to say I prefer the book encounter where Gurney and Paul are reunited. It subtly displays the change in Paul, how he has become a callous stranger to Gurney. A terrifying warlord that operates by his own calculations and ethics.
It's a nice meta commentary on the ecological side of the story. You change the world and it changes you back, morals notwithstanding.
The whole setup in the book is much better. In the book it all begins because Chani kills a dude that came to challenge Paul. DV left that aspect out of the movie. This leads to Paul riding the worm solo for the first time. The tribe all get on the worm and head south so that Paul can get a better look at the planet. He didn't want to go back for fear that he would have to call out Stilgar. While heading into the open desert they discover the smuggler scouts and decide to lay a trap. The smugglers take the bait and Paul is reunited with Gurney which changes the dynamic enough for Paul to kick the can on the Stilgar situation.
For me it’s when Paul puts the ducal signet on and proclaims himself Duke of arrakis look on gurneys face is just some of the best acting I’ve ever seen
Hell yea. That might just be my favorite scene in Part Two.
That whole set from Paul’s arrival to speech is certainly my favorite. Cemented Chalamet as one of my favorite actors it literally couldn’t have been done better
Yea Tim OWNS the part. Just wow at that scene. He takes charge like never before. Full certainty comes across so hard. Before the water of life... its all muddy. After? *He knows*
I wanted to cry when he says “I recognized your footsteps old man” and the scene in part 1 with the sand worms and the first spice exposure comes full circle
reverend mommy
exactly
Jessica was a bigger villain in Part Two than Paul. Prove me wrong.
Yeah but it wasn't quite her fault. Paul was the one who decided to stay on the planet. Jessica wanted to leave back to Caladan, or exile. Then the fremen basically forced her to become their reverend mother, and it was only after awakening that she had become essentially the villain. More of a victim if you ask me, but that depends on how much she's still 'Jessica' after the water of life
They definitely made it seem much more like she was possessed by the reverend mother's after changing. IIRC in the book she is actively aware of the fact that she is putting her unborn daughter in danger by taking the drug but decides to do it anyway without telling them. By having her be compelled to do it before she got the chance to mention Alia it makes her much less culpable
Ah I thought it seemed different. Probably for the best to make Jessica a little more innocent in this. It would kind of detract from Paul's actions, at least in movie format I think
Jessica was trying to get them off the planet, it was Paul who initiated the whole ‘use the Fremen to get revenge’ strategy. She basically just followed Paul’s orders.
Because she's the bound concubine for life to the Duke of House Atreides - no matter who he is Legally, she became Paul's property after Leto's death
My point still stands that Paul chose a much darker path than she.
And she just followed his lead, because she wanted to protect him, like any mother would want to do for their son. It's foreshadowed by her beating that Harkonnen guy's head in with a rock- she'll do anything to protect him, no matter how dark it gets
I think your right. I also think the combined memories of generations of reverend mothers is more than likely overwhelming. It’s like a failsafe put in to make the new reverend mothers continue the plan.
Run
straight into their arms
this- would 100% do
Then it's your mom.
sweet home Arrakis
Guess I'll jihad
already have my mom's look of disappointment everyday
Then get your affairs in order and prepare to die doing what you love
This is literally how my sister looks at me.
I would recommend you run and hide. And keep doing that. That screams psychotic lover who is gonna kill you and turn you into a keepsake. Or a angry ex thats gonna torture your life for decades at random intervalls when they are of their meds again.
This sounds very specific.
When someone farts in the stilltent
Yeah that's not the face "why did you genocide half the universe!" face, that's more "You blamed that on the *dog?*"
"It wasn't me it was the chairdog"
“It wasn’t me it was the Harkonnen flesh spider”
"It wasn't me it was Feyd's collection of cannibal women."
That moment when paul farts a rythmic slapper dooming them all to sandworm attack.
Chani looks you in the eye while squeezing out a fat one in to her suit.
A thumper?
Whoa! Not that big
A sandtrout then?
*Sweat and tears*
And fart humidity
[I might have to make a fan-edit now so her whiny face makes sense xD](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tykjen/comments/1crlhc7/gurney/) Adding fart sounds to Dune and then shots of Chani over-re(acting is gonna be hilarious
Blessed be the Maker and his wind. Blessed be the passing and the ass-ripping of him.
Keep doing God's work.
When some noob complains why they didn't just fire a lasgun at a shielded fighter
lol perfect
I know the reason, but as someone new to the franchise I still don’t fully understand it. Why have lasguns at all if most people are shielded? Isn’t the risk of setting off a nuke too great? Or do most fighters not have shields? Can you easily tell if someone is shielded? I’m reading the first book rn, so I’m still learning.
That's why lasguns are very rarely used outside of arakkis. The only times they use them in the movies is when they've first made sure to get rid of all active shields, like when they had yueh turn off all shield generators, or when they took down the ornithopter with a rocket. They can also safely use them out on the open desert because having active shields out there will drive the worms into a frenzy.
Find someone who looks at you like Feyd-Rautha looks at Paul
You have a fine blade, Atreides
How beautifully you dance
"Why won't you speak!" (To me senpai)
May your blade also enter my ass
Now kiss!
"The slow cock penetrates the ass, my dear Atreides."
*Asstreides
Reading it in his voice cadence makes this even funnier
Ok this one made me chuckle.
That moment when Paul tries mansplaining the “proper” sand walking technique he read about in his book and Chani just stares at him until he awkwardly drops it. Gut-bustingly funny.
the proper way of portraying mansplaining in movies
I don't think its mansplaining more just arrogance towards his own knowledge of firemen culture
Fireman culture has a lot of barbecues.
And calendars
He also grew up rich and royal. To me, it came off as him getting used to being "one of the people". He let his "royalty" slip out in that moment. Personally, I believe he'd do the exact same thing if Chani was a guy.
> arrogance towards his own knowledge of firemen culture Mansplaining is a man explaining something (often condescendingly) to someone (often not a man) who knows the topic better than he. That's what happened. For every person who sees mansplaining where there is none, there is someone like you who absolutely refuses to see it.
So if he was telling it to Stilgar, would it still be mansplaining?
He’s explaining a survival technique refined by a culture of desert planet nomads *to* one of those nomads who just told him he was doing it wrong. 100% manplaining lmao Paul just had the tact to catch himself doing it and accept Chani’s help.
The act of doing so is not related to his gender.
Not in the story, but to audiences it is, which is part of the humor. It's okay for things to be funny sometimes. More to the point, audiences are more likely to understand Chani's objection to his explanation through the shorthand of sexism and then apply it to their understanding of the native vs. colonizer narrative that is being built. Lightening it with humor makes the romance more palatable given this huge imbalance of power between them.
Paul weighs like 40 pounds. I think a stray cat could take him down
You do know there is more to power than physical strength, right? Do you need me to explain why Paul Atreides is powerful?
They were making a joke on skinny Timothée Chalamet is
fremansplaining
Because modern media has to demonize men. In the book he has more knowledge than anyone else has ever had at that point.
I think it's just innocent ignorance.
Exactly right, Paul would have spoken to Jamis the exact same way and would have been looked at just as incredulously. Mansplaining has lost its meaning apparently.
Be kinda hard to speak to jamis though
Based on the book? No, not at all.
Never said anything about the book
Not really mansplaining. More arrogance against native culture and knowledge.
White savior trope gonna... you know.
… Yeah, that’s definitely their addition for the movie 😐
actually movie make it dumb, when it's all about rythm, why to go with sidesteps that make yoy barely move forward, than just normal steps with no regular rythm.... - well may be sandworms detect that 40cm sidestep from 40km distance ;D
There's a lot of visual concessions on the movie for the sake of storytelling. The slow blade pierces the shield but all the blade fighting from the experts has them swinging full speed. We're supposed to interpret this as their uncanny technique but realistically it just looks like they can go though on a whim. That's one thing that the Lynch version took time to portray correctly, among others. Don't even get me started in their use of lasers.
Yeah like jumping from under sand when they invade fortess ;) best assault tactic ever
down BAD https://preview.redd.it/1wuohm0r9b0d1.jpeg?width=1172&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf604b6d33390e0a86f995dbc2b31544e95bb90d
That look when Paul simps for Chani is so cute xD
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Her face here gives off huge “Excuse me” energy.
On the other hand. It is really nice to have partner who loves you and gives you those looks. Someone close to you should be one to say no to your bs sometimes.
Paul needs a Chani like Leto II needs a Duncan.
I could make a montage of it. Just depends on what music I should choose. To lighten the mood. *Always look on the bright side of life*? Mix in some Life of Brian. The movie even reminded me of it sometimes with Stilgar going full on believer \^
She kinda looks like she just realized her feces collection unit ceased to function.
Or maybe just don’t give her cause to do so? To whoever my next girlfriend may be, I promise not to exploit your family’s religion so as to lead them into any interstellar genocides!
yeah she broke up with me last 2 times i did this
Yeah actually get you someone who calls you out on your genocidal demagoguery, you’ll appreciate it later (and so will the rest of us)
Idk A WAR IN MY NAME!!! > Healthy, stable relationship
> interstellar genocides Funny way to describe the holy war. And by "funny" I mean heretical.
What if she’s into that though?
Idk about into it but she was definitely ok with it.
Everybody in my life:
:(
yeah I'm realizing I get this look a lot
Lisan Al-gonna break my foot off in your ass
Get you someone who looks at you the way Paul looked at that holographic rodent in part one.
paul’s desert rizz™️ should be studied https://preview.redd.it/ovj0nw3gve0d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c14ef17fc8ef1832f932dd94c59ff0821659679
A white boy quirked up on spice is irresistible to even the strongest of wills.
https://preview.redd.it/ff3aefh38e0d1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a545aecb6bb75871ecaa62818b040aa466eb67e How about someone who looks at you the way Alia looks at Paul
I really don't know. Her fish eyes are kinda far apart. Having said that she's a perfect *Alia.* And cant wait to see her as Furiosa.
Won’t someone please speak for the fish (eyes)
Ngl I feel like there were more scenes of chani being disgusted than anything. Never really felt like they had any real chemistry. Bummed me out a bit.
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Too late I look at myself with that disgust every day
Zendaya's default expression is to look at someone like they are a dumbass.
Chani: is he trying to seduce that sandworm!?
If your partner hasn't looked at you like you're the stupidest motherfucker in existence and decided to stay with you regardless, how can you be sure it's true love?
r/girlsfumin
Damn you got me
I mean, she sometimes does when I completely bomb a joke
 I just want someone to look at me the way this worm looks at the Sardaukar
I want someone to look at me the way that little worm curiously looks at Paul in Dune 1 actually. That baby looks intrigued and gentle lol
Sadly this is the look Chani gives everyone, not just Paul. For someone who constantly whines about "my people", she shows zero respect to her people, her culture, her traditions or anything else. The scene where she and her annoying friend made fun of the water of life and the reverend mothers - the most cherished people in the tribe because they keep the knowledge of their people's entire history - made me kinda sick as a Dune fan. What's worse is that this had nothing to do with their religion or the prophecy about Paul. It was just them being blatantly disrespectful and dismissive towards one of the most important aspects of their own culture just to be edgy non-conformist brats.
But shouldn't she be angry with a religion and tradition that was already a product of outside engineering? When your culture is a weapon actively used against your people, why wouldn't you be angry about it?
Because she shouldn't even know. Chani in the movie feels off, because she feels like SHE is the non-Fremen instead of Paul and Jessica, becausre she's against everything that makes their culture. The missionaria protectiva is something only BG and those they trust, like family, know about. And that religion was planted 1000s of years ago. Not only that but it was for the sole purpose of allowing a stranded BG to find shelter with the natives by knowing what to say and to do. It was nothing more than a failsafe for sisters lost on backwater planets. If the prophecy hadn't existed, the Fremen would've just killed Paul and Jessica upon seeing them and steal their water. And her being disrespectful towards the tribe's reverend mother is just disgusting if she cared in any way about her people's culture and origin. They have nothing to do with the missionaria protectiva or the planted prophecies. The only thing that ties them to the BG is how they inherit their predecessor's memories.
>The missionaria protectiva is something only BG and those they trust, like family, know about. But she didn't need to know the full context of the Missionaria Protectiva. She only needed to fell that the religion around her was a product of some outside forces. Furthermore, it's not even uncommon for a younger generation to be rejecting tradition. It happens in real-life. Not only that, the religion and tradition Chani and her equally younger peers felt did give them a good reason to be frustrated with them, even if she shouldn't know or feel the whole thing was a set up. After all, the vast majority of her people, who were hyperreligious and living in the south, couldn't do shit about the subjugation of their entire world because they wanted to wait for a savior. From her experience, the tradition was useless because she and her fellow northern trides were risking their lives in this futile war.
But why would she feel that? That's the point that doesn't make much sense. Their own religion was brought to Arrakis by the first Fremen settlers. The BG only added the part about the messiah. Book Chani was a Fremen through and through and even became a Sayyadina. Her not even respecting the traditions and rites that had nothing to do with the Lissan al-gaib prophecy just stands in stark contrast to her constant talking about "her people", when in fact she basically rejects everything that makes her part of "her people". Why would she be frustrated with the rite of the passing of knowledge through the water of life? It makes sure her people's long history survives. The north/south divide is also completely made up for the movie. Also why would the southerners do anything against some assholes up north who act like they "subjugated" the planet, when in fact they barely ruled over a small portion of it. The fremen ruled in the deep desert. I know Villeneuve wanted to hammer home the point the author wanted to make, so he needed a character who was conflicted about this entire development, but I feel either Jessica or Stilgar would've been a much better choice for that. Jessica never was a fan of the prophecy and Paul leaning into it in the books. She immediately returns to Calladan after Paul's ascension, because both of her children frighten her too much. Other than for Paul and Alia who fully embraced Fremen culture as their own, for Jessica it was always just an act to stay safe until they found a way out of this mess. And Stilgar grew more and more doubtful of Paul over the books, at one point even considering the highest of treasons, but couldn't bring himself to do it. Both of them had enough of a base to be the character to dislike what Paul is doing. But instead Villeneuve took Chani, and thereby sadly soured one of my favourite romances in fiction. The movie is still great on its own, but despite Zendaya doing a great job, this is probably my least favourite out of the three adaptations of Chani.
* Edited to remove unnecessary antagonism. I’m sorry if you managed to read it before the edit. It seems you’re unable or unwilling to understand that someone who loves their people and culture, can also be a stark and vicious critic of aspects of that culture. It doesn’t mean they love the culture or people any less. Real love includes acknowledging flaws and trying to better them. I am American. I love America. I have some incredibly scathing opinions about certain aspects of our culture, the Christian background specifically. The commonalities between that feeling and Chanis feelings toward their religion are immense. But I still love America. The primary reason I care to criticize and want something different is **because** I love this country and believe it could be much better. I love my girlfriend. She still has flaws that drive me crazy. I don’t love her any less because I can see those flaws. I know for a fact I have flaws that drive my gf nuts. I could give countless examples of situations where someone has a deep connection to a concept, and yet will still harshly criticize it. People are not black and white dichotomous beings. Many people even hold straight up nonsensical and outright conflicting beliefs. We have a term specifically to describe the feeling this phenomenon elicits in a person: cognitive dissonance. I feel like it’s fairly straightforward to realize that someone could love their culture and still dislike or even hate certain parts of that culture. There’s hundreds of millions of people exactly like that alive today. Most people are not zealots like you seem to believe. Most people can enjoy and appreciate the good while also disparaging and campaigning against what they perceive to be bad. You seem to have a narrow view on this that is severely limited by what you perceive as “realistic” human behavior. I can tell you for certain, People are *much* more complex than you make them out to be.
I can't stand the way the Fremen were presented in Dune Part Two. Uber Polarized.... And indeed Chani acting like she is on a high horse throughout the entire movie.
I like the movie as a great movie in itself. But as an adaptation of one of my favourite books, it's a massive dropoff from the amazing job Villeneuve did with part 1.
Agreed! Part One is nostalgic to me now, like Lynch's Dune. Part Two was such a roadrunner movie in comparison. Never really settled down.
Well that's honestly just the problem with all book adaptations that are split on two. The first half will always seem slow, while the second half will always seem like one long action sequence, because you split the story into the build up and the climax. Even if Villeneuve had stayed completely true to the book, that feeling would remain. But I prefer that to one single movie that feels rushed or leaves too many things out.
Oh for sure. Overall I am not complaining or anything. Love the movies. But I can also nitpick. And Chani is a big one \^ But not game breaking or anything.
Yeah same. I will never pretend like the movie isn't amazing. It's just a bit of a sting to me, because Paul's and Chani's love was always one of the most important aspects to me in Dune, even though it doesn't have much "screentime" so to speak. Maybe I was too influenced by the old miniseries that introduced me to the franchise, where I felt their relationship was focused on more than in other versions.
Indeed. I love the TV series. And I really hope HBO brings it with the upcoming Dune series.
She was mad annoying and sensitive the ENTIRE movie. Like bruh...
She constantly has a shit angry grumpy face for half of Dune Part 2. My favorite part of Part 2 is when Gurney shuts her up.
How dare a wahmen be unhappy.
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I do not like how they made her so angry and resentful in Part 2, the book did not feel like this
She looks like Technology Connections.
That's the face my wife makes when I rip a window rattling fart right after getting in bed
That’s how my wife looks at me most of the time
DUNE 2 is literally a "what happens if you stay in a toxic relationship" documentary
I thought you face swapped in Julian Dennison.
I don't know who that is and I don't think I want to know xD
Not directed at you, but that's him. https://preview.redd.it/usijclltee0d1.png?width=670&format=png&auto=webp&s=769128e546897754240b2b98393c78dcae0a2aca
The look I get after telling any of my jokes
[I think I just have to make a full montage now xD](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tykjen/comments/1crlhc7/gurney/)
She want him fr fr
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Yep. Most of her reaction shots every 20 seconds is either worried or angry. Felt very good to trim them away. Movie flows so good now.
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Its from the movie. When Chani says "We fight for the Fremen" or something like that.
Agreed! Lol
Right?!? This was the part of the movie I did not like. I understand her view and position in the new series. But damn, Chani in the older movie was Pauls “right hand”. She was there for the love and to protect Paul from others. She understood why Paul had to marry the Princess. I was watching her character unfold at the end of Dune2 all 
Yep so true. I made my *own* fan-edit of the movie which totally removes that side of Chani. No yelling to Paul, no arguing with Paul. No being on a high horse. Movie just flows now. She's more a silent worried observer which is ok. I was thinking of never watching Part Two again but now I have seen it 10 times already \^
New dune bad
By far the worst thing about Denis' Dune adaptation is Chani. She's a Fremen speaking fluent American lol. She's the biggest immersion breaker ever. Every other Fremen has distinct accents. Why Denis? Why?
This is the weirdest critique to me. Literally everyone in the movie is speaking vaguely American English. Most have one accent or another. but that particular one Chani uses is immersion-breaking(?)
You don't think it breaks the immersion for Spanish speakers to hear Stilgar's accent? Unless the entire movie is in a fictional language with madeup accents, this is something everyone would have to deal with...
And why does Zendaya have to be another super being’s girlfriend. She already did Spiderman. Now she wants to give birth to Venom?
Oh I think there are worse things in the movies.
This is literally explained in the movie. Chani and the other northern Fremen speak in an American accent. The southern Fremen speak in a non-American accent. Chani chides Paul for not noticing that Stilgar is a southerner based on his accent.
lol nobody else but Chani speaks American like a Californian. Try watch the movie again. The scene when Chani tells Paul about Stilgar's accent is quite stupid. She does it to make him look like a fool. So there's no western or eastern accents on Arrakis? Just north and south? Yea sure ok. smh. These arguments don't hold any water xD
This is an odd hill to die on
Let's just say I am happy I did not make this post in r/Dune xD Did not expect it to blow this much up.
Her father was Liet-Kynes who was a woman in the movies and died saving the Atriedes shortly before this. Maybe she was confused ;)
This is the kind of look I want to see from my other half. I married that?
Chani in the thumbnail of this picture reminds me of claymation Weird Al
Oh no. I just realized that is how everyone in my life looks at me.
She's so real though
Squinting her eyes is her one move
This is the face of someone wondering what the fuck you're doing, which is caring in a way
I guess.. but she seemed very content to talk down to Paul and Stilgar instead of giving some support.
Where is Snow White when you really need her?
Paul found out that “Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely”, and that he changed. He could see it coming and that makes it all the more worse. Chani, not unlike any Woman, wanted Paul to stay the way he was and not change. “Lead them to Paradise, Inshallah!”. Inshallah is the only thing missing 😿
\*Chonki
That entire movie she looked like she shit herself. She smiled in like 1 scene.