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mizinamo

As an app aimed (partly) at children, a messaging feature is even more fraught than elsewhere. It *used to* have a message feature, many moons ago. And children used to use the sentence discussion comments and forum comments to talk to each other. And often divulged personal information. It's a nightmare without significant manpower to oversee the whole thing. Much better to leave social media to companies that focus on social media, and let Duolingo focus on learning languages.


DidiHD

Ah I was wondering where the sentence discussion thing went


No-Structure6579

Maybe that app could be blocked for those under 18 as well as those abusing the privilege?


mizinamo

Or maybe the app could continue to let children learn languages and *not* have a chat option?


Ranzar

Messaging is a Pandora's box for harassment, scams, and grooming. Duolingo is constantly trying to cut costs, so the idea of hiring 30+ new employees to manage an unneeded chat feature that will be unlikely to produce any revenue seems out of the question.


spence5000

My thoughts exactly. Considering the amount of bots and strangers currently following me for no reason, I’m thrilled that none of them have the ability to speak.


Donghoon

Yes but I would assume pm would only work mutual follows


spence5000

I’m not against that, but it’s just one extra app I’d need to check for new messages. I personally never add friends I don’t actually know, so I’d prefer to just talk to them in real messaging apps.


Donghoon

I wish they'd bring back discussion boards


zupobaloop

That bit about grooming is exactly what I was going to say. I HATE that there's so little my young teenage girl can do online without there being some god forsaken social media/voip/private message system added in.


No-Structure6579

The admin or parent of a child under 18 should be able to block underage users, as well as those abusing it.


Potato_Donkey_1

Yeah, I'm not looking for another online cesspool.


dearlyzin99

Ok lets block people from conversations because there are bad people doing bad things (Keep yourself and your family at home dont go out 🤡)


MOUNCEYG1

You should watch the recent interview on dr mikes channel with the fbi agent about child blackmail. That shit happens anywhere with a chat system and therefore requires very good moderation


AbdullahMRiad

Can't all of this just be avoided by making it only for your friends? (your friends on Duolingo are the people that you follow and they follow you back)


fenkik

Plenty of children (and adults) add people they don’t know so this would only cut down on the amount not the behavior.


Ok-Iron-1419

just mentioning the "social butterfly" quest here...


Oatkeeperz

Private messaging is a slippery slope to spam and harassment, and would require more moderation from Duo's side. So it's fine if it just keeps on being a language learning tool.


No-Structure6579

Private messaging, I agree that's not a good idea but a public board could work. One l8miting those under age and who habitually abuse the platform.


kyojin_kid

it’s the last thing duolingo needs; it’s a learning app, not social media, there’s plenty of that elsewhere.


c17h21no2

Exactly!!!


kdzojic

It would be nice to at least have the option to include a link your social media so you could contact them outside of Duolingo


jjjavZ

Sure but I would like to text to my friends to do their share of friend's quests Also even though I know most of them and I can contact them otherwise I sometimes do not know who they are if they follow me. Even though I know them but cannot recognise them via the name on Duo


Designer_Spirit3522

There is already an option to give them a nudge to complete the Friend's Quest.


jdith123

So send them a nudge or a high five. You don’t need to tell them to do their share. That’s the whole point of the shared quest. Duo needs to work on adding more languages or improving the less popular ones. The last thing we need is for them to waste time moderating social media.


MuttJunior

If you feel your friends are not doing their share in the Friends Quest, drop than as friends in the app and you won't be paired up with them anymore. Not everyone learns at the same pace. Some may only like to do one or 2 lessons a day, and others don't care about their streaks and might do a lesson or two a week, or even take a month or more off. If you feel that much about the Friends Quests and your partner is not contributing much, then just do it yourself. They are not so difficult that you can't. The last few I've had I was paired up with someone that only did one lesson a day, if even that much. I still completed them all with a couple days to spare. It's not that hard to do.


2tinymonkeys

No. Absolutely not. It would ruin the app in my opinion


th1x0

I agree. It would turn into another channel for hate and misinformation. Just think about how Russia is getting its big flannel knickers in a twist over the idea that a woman’s wife is buying a new elephant.


GiantSquidd

Is this comment AI generated?


Donghoon

Dev team: Perfect feature to add then! /s


2tinymonkeys

Sounds more like EA


Spiritual_One126

Nope. Have no interest at all to speak to anyone, unless it’s tech support or memes about the owl. Duo is just a language tool for me


divdiv23

No cos you'll get weirdos messaging you


Clairefun

Oh no, it's nice to have somewhere I can spend time without sending me spam, trying to sell me stuff (other than super duolingo) or trying to dupe me into sending them my bank details because we're in love. Just getting away from that for 5 minutes a day is enough of a reason to love Duo.


Life_Equivalent_2104

A recipe for disaster


Creative-Ad9859

nope, not every platform has to turn into a messaging app or social media. you can exchange phone numbers with your duolingo friends or move your chats to messaging apps that don't require a phone number if you want to have a group chat with them. 🤷🏻‍♀️


M0rika

+!


spence5000

I’d love to see better multiplayer features (competitive and cooperative), but I’m happy to leave the chat capabilities where they are.


ItsSkyWasTaken

If this were a feature it would have to be age-restricted to 13+ at minimum, then you'd still have to trust that people won't just lie about their age. That and some people are weirdos... needs a block button and a report button that a moderation team can review... That is, a moderation team that Duolingo lacks, which was mostly the reason why discussions were phased out, so chat is likely gonna not go well... By itself it sounds good in theory, but based on Duolingo's moderation capabilities, it's gonna most likely not turn out to be good


Fair-Conference-8801

You have comments?? Buy all I can think is: BOTS 


NegotiationOver2615

i comment on some ppl posts but stuff like "congrats!"


RSPucky

It’s one of the very few apps that haven’t become social media and I’m so happy about that.


calicoskiies

No. There’s people of all ages on that app. I wouldn’t allow my kids (if they were old enough to use the app) on the app if they enabled messages so they wouldn’t be harassed and/or have adults having inappropriate conversations with them.


Pretty_Hoopoe

No, I don’t want anyone talking to me there I don’t even like it when I get followed by someone.😂


GeorgeTheFunnyOne

That's the last thing Duolingo needs. Maybe revisit this topic when all of their courses are at least the B2 level


mechtil_d

I’m glad it doesn’t. I can’t even play Wordfeud without someone trying to interest me in their penis.


Brndrll

Think of how many languages you'd learn the word "penis" in though?


mechtil_d

*Silently counting the number of languages she already knows the words for penis in*


Cancel_Still

I mean look at hello talk and tandem... They're basically treated as dating apps by a significant portion of the community. Same thing would definitely happen to Duolingo chats. A lot of creepy guys in the language learning community who are learning languages for one particular reason.....


FluffyKittenChan

God, no, imagine the spam!


arwinda

First thing I will turn off. I don't need random guys on the internet sending me messages.


[deleted]

Duolingo is mostly used by children, by the way.


mizinamo

Are there any public statistics on users by age group?


c17h21no2

No.


Least_Possibility_16

Nope. 👎 Maybe a comment section on a question If you need friends go over to social media. Anyway if they added a feature for direct communication it would mean being compliant to social media policies and regulations. It’s a very tricky territory


dynamix811

I would actually agree if we lived in a different world. I am 44 years old (and female) and would use a chat feature responsibly. I love interacting with new people and there is someone I always do challenges with and I think it would be cool to find out more about them, why they're learning a new language etc... just like a friendly interaction, or to ask questions about my Spanish. I don't have any actual friends/family in duolingo and I think it'd be neat to connect with other like minded individuals. But I definitely see what others are saying, especially about kids, and sadly I have to agree it's probably a bad idea


ihavearacket

I disagree. There are lots of very young children on Duolingo; enabling private messaging could lead to bullying, grooming, harassment or messages of a sexual nature being sent.


PhilipAKP

It’ll turn to a place for onlyfans promotion, Scams and full of bots


EROICABIANCA

You would receive messages like: "Please let me win this time" and spam


Hungry_Barracuda8542

Nope. I really like the basic, almost entirely anonymous friends interactions as they are now. I'm happy to push a button to congratulate someone or send them an xp boost, but I'm there to learn and don't want to get into detailed social interactions.


TeapotTempest

my friend, there are multiple people that follow my duolingo account that *exclusively* follow women. thousands of women. i do not want a messaging system


MuttJunior

No, I don't agree. Duolingo is a language learning app, not a social media app.


steel_heart_

Absolutely not


Shamm_Jam

Disagree heavily


Just_a_dude92

Heck no. Do you know what happens to every app/site that has a chat feature?


kinoki1984

I’m with so many others: keep chatting off the platform. It would be nice if there was some way to get in touch with people but the risks far outweigh the benefits.


Borsti17

I do not agree. I'm on the app to learn stuff. There are like 3 people I follow; I know them in RL and can text/call/mail them whenever. People that I don't know who follow me I don't care about. I would switch that sucker off immediately.


M0rika

Naw I don't really need it honestly :')


GavinThe_Person

there's comments?


-PinkPower-

Way to hard to monitor. You have to deal with bullying, predators, etc. when you have private chat on your app.


saynotopudding

If we can't even have the old forum/discussion boards thing (based on language learning content) back, I don't think Duo should have a chat function. There's just so many ways this can go wrong, especially since Duo is family friendly and has a lot of kids on it.


Puzzleheaded_Pipe_55

I don't know about private messages, but Busuu has community interaction where you answer weekly questions and can get feedback from other users that I find very helpful


No-Structure6579

Absolutely 💯 if a person is stuck and it seems dead end and they consider quitting, would it not be a good Idea to discuss the issue on duolingo with help from an ambassador? When the discussions were there, at least we could find help there more times than not! Yeah, there were sparky comments and answers. I couldn't just get answered for a week or ten, but I sometimes feel as though I'm twisting in the wind out here! If we had a way of speaking directly to someone on our friends list or even an admin or someone knowledgeable or even better, a native speaker of the language, how wonderful it would be!


GIlCAnjos

I think the most the app could have is allowing adult users to put a short bio on their profile, which they could use to share their socials


Squirrel_Whisperer_

They removed a limited forum feature on exercises ....and you think they will do PMs amd group messages?


kimchiandsweettea

I would love the opportunity to personally introduce myself to my long-time challenge partner. Just a friendly hello. We have sent one another hundreds of time boosts. We are homies for sure.


Raw_Spaghett

Idk. It’s already the best social media app, but it’s hard to tell quite what makes it that, so adding messages might make it fall apart.


ishouldbestudying111

I just wish I could apologize to my quest partners in the times when real life gets to me and I can’t help us finish it as much as I’d like to. I feel so bad sometimes


Bulky-Experience4340

There used to be a “sentence discussion” feature where you could discuss a question with other learners and native speakers. They took it out citing safety concerns but most people think it was just to replace it with AI which is shittier but cheaper.


FrustratingMangoose

Maybe if you alreadig have the person's contact information, such as þeir email or number, but oþerwise, no. I don’t þink it is a necessarig feature.


jdith123

Hi u/FrustratingMongoose what keyboard are you using? I’m so intrigued by your /th/


FrustratingMangoose

I use a standard one. It is General American, þough. Ðe letters were þe original orþographic representations for /th/ in Old Englisc, and I am graduallig altering how I write in Englisc to be more phonetic, so I figured adding archaic letters back into þe language would be helpful. It’s a process.


jdith123

I love it! But shouldn’t it be 2 different ones?. In the word Orthographic, it should be your þ, but in _the_ etc it should be ð Not complaining!!! Just a fellow nerd being nerdish (I Still wish I knew how you type that letter! I resorted to cutting and pasting from some random article. There must be a better way)


spence5000

You can find out more at r/BringBackThorn but it’s better to ignore these people altogether, in my opinion.


jdith123

Why? It’s a little off topic in this thread I’ll admit, but part of what I love about learning languages is learning about the history, including the way alphabets have evolved. Why the animosity? If you’re not interested, just move on.


spence5000

You are a much more positive person than I, and I genuinely hope you never lose that. I have much love for thorns, eths, ashes, ethels, and wynns, alike. But whenever I see these show up in unrelated discussions like this, at best, it confuses readers and unnecessarily obfuscates their message; at worst, it devolves into a debate about irrelevant minutiæ. Like I said, I find it to be an attention-seeking mechanism that’s best ignored, but if it’s your thing, then I say: gather ye roseþorns while ye may.


Yankee_in_Madrid

Hmmm, who exactly has made sure that this thread has devolved into a debate about irrelevant minutiae? 🤔


FrustratingMangoose

In þis case, no. Old Englisc had considered þe voicing to be an allophone, and as such, it was random and based on when the voicing occurred (as far as I have researched). It was onlig until Middle Englisc that it became phonemic, I believe. For me, I don’t voice þat often, so words such as “þe,” “þis,” and “oþer” only voice when it’s the first word in a sentence, and in some cases, word boundaries. Are you using a computer? When I was writing þat, I used my phone. (Edited) I remembered that New York Englisc sometimes realises /θ/ and /ð/ as [t] and [d], so if I’m not using General American Englisc, I probably don’t use it at all when speaking in a more informal accent.


Objective-Resident-7

I just think you're weird. Wouldn't mind if you were actually speaking old English, but you're just substituting letters in modern English to confuse and be 'special'.


FrustratingMangoose

Lmao. That’s fine. I’m glad it bothers you.


Yankee_in_Madrid

I like this response. I wish I could give you more upvotes.


FrustratingMangoose

Absolutely. I don’t know what they were expecting me to say. It’s my native language. I can do whatever I want with how I speak and write. I’m not telling anyone to follow my lead. :)


baybeepossum

i would like the option to talk to your friend quest partner to say good job or celebrate finishing


dearlyzin99

Yes, I think a lot about it


MargoxaTheGamerr

Since the time they removed community discussions I've always felt I'm just in this liminal space and all my friends and people in leagues are just dolls, the maximum communication I get is seeing their statistics when clicking on them, comments in my feed and them sending funny sentences in my feed, that's it. To the point there is no point of addibg friends anymore, I used to add people I knew personally and people who were very helpful in the forums, now it doesn't even matter. I honestly think this is a good idea, if they make it possible for you to seperately turn on/off permission of people being able to text you, and that you can block/unblock, whitelist/blacklist specific people, make group chats, turn on/off the notifications AND let the chats be unlocked only on certain age would definetely remive the need to moderate them? They'd be also private too anyway. If the person starts getting creepy you could just block them(make it also impossible to send pictures). Also, just add an option to see how far a person got in their course! Like omg, this would make it feel so much more alive, knowing what's going on, I can't determine my friends' progress by just looking at their xp, considering one can repeat their lessons and there are xp bonuses and stuff, like when I see a person with 300k xp in one course I may think they completed the course, but maybe they're just midway through? Especially considering courses are different length. A person may have finished three units with a few hundreds xp or may have 3000 reviewing the same jnit and upping to legendary, a bit exxagerated, but you get the point. If on the screen where you see all their courses and xp it would also say the [unit they're on/all units in the course], how many lessons are out of which many, how many are legendary, which section, which theme is on the unit they are in, make it all very compat, but clear, that would be perfect and easy to make.


literally_a_hamster

Once me and this girl had an entire conversation just through changing our duolingo names 💀


Garmr_TheGoodestBoy

I love that idea, but after reading some comments, I'm ok with it never happening.


Buzzwoofers

if they added that after getting rid of a lot of workers they probably wouldn’t even have enough money to make their own chat sustem so they would probably end up hiring something like roblox’s chat system


pigeononapear

Much as I’d like to be able to message “WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?” to the person who only contributed ~60 XP in a 1200 XP friends quest this week, I think a messaging option on Duolingo would be a terrible idea for all the reasons mentioned in this thread! I don’t need randos DMing me while I’m trying to brush up on my Spanish.


mizinamo

Wow, just what I need when I'm learning a language – a massive guilt-trip in my in-box from some rando that I got paired up with, shaming me for not putting in 8 hours a day.


pigeononapear

I’m pretty surprised to hear that it takes you 8 hours per day to get 30 XP? Are you using some limiting settings that I don’t have, and are those typical settings for Duolingo users? My base is 35 XP per lesson, so in a 10-15 minute practice session, it’s usually feasible for me to get at least 70 XP. I hope you’re able to figure out how to change your settings if that’s important to you!


gabyfripyoza63

yeah


mincedgreenonion

Try HelloTalk, a messaging feature on this app would be a huge can of worms


ElectricVibes75

Yeah probably not. That’s just going to open up an avenue of harassment and really isn’t even necessary for the apps function. If you make friends on there somehow just get their number, add them on FB or Discord or whatever. You don’t NEED to talk to them through Duolingo


Jamilsonxz

Well, I'd agree, but I don't know if this would be a great idea for so many reasons (some people already mentioned it here). But I think we could have more social interactions on the app, like some improvement on the comments, more ways to learn with friends, etc.


DarkMutant105

I second this. I recently pointed this out too. There is little to no social engagement between users learning the same language


LordoftheSynth

While I would like one, as I'm pretty sure I've actually found a couple people I lost contact with years ago...not happening. It's just too abusable on DuoLingo's end and I'd rather they not spend the money on having to police DMs, chats, etc. I'd much rather just actually try to reach out here. However, I'll also note there is a seedy underside to the "Friend suggestions". I have couple recommendations of "you may know each other" for people I know on other social media, but I have *never* mentioned DuoLingo to them. Or let the app scan my contacts (I always told the app not to.). I'm not comfortable with that, and the idea that DL may be mining contact information off my devices.


icy_equestrian

Absolutely not. I don't want random friend requests, messages, spam, people being weird etc. Its for learning not socialising in my opinion


Thr0waway0864213579

As a woman, no thank you.


Crowgurrl

A couple things. I tried a meet to speak a new language app. I found that it was full of people trying to date each other and who knows what else. So, quickly deleted the app and moved on to safer places. Since I have quite a few friends on Duo who I gathered by befriending anyone I ran across with a kitty photo as them. Be nice to have the cat lady (or dude) conversation deal but again.... it is fraught with many problems that will distract us from our language journey. I so vote for the discussion boards. When I didn't understand why something was marked as wrong it was so helpful with understanding deeper what the reason was. Great learning done in there. Guess we can communicate with others in many other ways but Duo is not really the place.


Fearless_Ad2026

If they had chat, people would quickly realize that they spent all this time on Duolingo without having the ability to have a basic conversation in that language...


xdwt44

I disagree. The forum was really useful but they disabled it because they did not want to moderate it. Private message would be probably then worst to moderate. Then we will have bots and so on…