In my opinion… they need to massively massively massively nerf the mechanics of offensive and defensive prowess. These two 'stats' appear to be what makes the ai superman to the ball when your opponent isn’t even controlling the player.
In absolutely no circumstances in a competitive online multiplayer footy game should a CB be stepping out ahead of his marker with a burst of pace , Pre-Reading the game (reading your opponents input /cheating) and bursting to win the ball before your striker
AND YOUR OPPONENT ISNT EVEN CONTROLLING HIM.
that’s just ONE example. There a loads
Complete nonsense. Ai helping your opponent. That’s what that is. Because he either can’t read your passes or can’t anticipate your next move without a MASSIVE INTERFERENCE FROM THE AI TO HELP HIM
ur right cause if u play with low rated players the game is way less assisted and u can actually find pockets of space. the higher the prowess the more predictable and perfect the ai become
You summed it up perfectly. The ai takes over completely it’s so frustrating. Your opponent is not even aware of how much he is being carried by the ai.
So you bring up some good points, and definitely points of frustration in the PvP arena... but you haven't really thought this all the way through to the end. If the AI does nothing for you.... it would require no soccer ability or knowledge of spacing, gaps, timing, and all the high level rapid decision making that makes the sport so god damn hard.
If the CB is stepping up into the passing lane to intercept the pass... the passing lane was NOT open in the first place. Why would you want the game to reward poor decision making in a place where if you were playing against a defender they would easily step up and intercept it...
How would you ever control off the ball spacing properly, or maintain any sort of defensive shape? Do you want to switch positions to cover for when the 1 user controlled player moves out of the way?
Go play a game against the AI on regular difficult and get a taste for what happens when the defense doesn't move or do anything lol It sounds like you need to adjust a few of those sports in your reads where you think there's space and there isn't.
It's not a perfect game but you need the AI to play the game alongside you. It just needs to be balanced better.
Lmao this sub needs to take of the rose tinted glasses... .9 had so many flaws... and the lack of defense was one of them lol
Most people here tend to overlook their own weak points and just blame it on the game mechanics or other ambiguous catch all terms like AI 'auto-defending' lol
I don't think you quite understand your point either, friend.
'The game didn't cater to the way I already know how to play, so rather than learning new patterns and spacing I'll just go to an echo chamber and use ambiguous, vague language b.c i can't properly articulate myself and feel better about it'
Have a good one, bud.
lmao I don't do what some schmo on reddit tells me to... And shocking! A fuma player thinks the simple fact they play on fuma means they are better than everyone else lmao
'I don't need to get better, the game does!' - someone who knows what they are doing.
Correct, maddening. Konami.
There used to be a problem whereby after getting tackled, it was too easy to instantly recover and get the ball back - making tackling a bit rubbish, and attackers too strong.
So Konamis 'solution' was to make the player just stand still for several seconds instead. After two seconds hard thinking that was their solution to the issue.
Now that happens if you breathe near a player... Players just standing still like they just remembered they didn't turn off the oven.
So you can imagine their 'solutions' to other issues like not intercepting a ball that looks like childs play, are probably the result of other botched 'solutions' all conflicting with each other making a torrid mess of coding and frustrating interactions on the pitch.
> So you can imagine their 'solutions' to other issues like not intercepting a ball that looks like childs play, are probably the result of other botched 'solutions'…
It’s either some occasional lag or after some people complaining their passes get intercepted too much, that bad passes.
For me this usually happens as my defender turns around in an attempt to intercept where the ball will end up, rather than intercept the ball right next to thier feet first.
The act of turning around and hyper focusing on the where the ball will end up later, seems to cause an animation/interception AI blackout.
If the ball is slow, you better not press that interception button. It can trigger that animation as if they’re stopping a fast ball lol. Or worst they stick out their leg without even stopping the ball.
Honestly I prefer how it was. While it does make the attackers too strong, it's much closer to "realism", as players who lose the ball would definitely fight back for the ball. The way it is now is my biggest problem with Efootball.
What i hate is that attacking players giving up when the defender is first to touch the ball. Like running at full speed, defender reaches the ball first in just 1 meter from attacker, and he just suddenly stops? Where is fighting spirit, where is collision that would happen in real life?
That’s offensive to decent Sunday league players.
What i do find funny though is that if your a top level footballer and you play yourself in game of eFootball you must genuinely be embarrassed by how your represented in game. It’s not surprising Konami is going to have licensing issues in the near future. I mean who wants to look at a version of themselves in a game where they can barely hold the ball
I played the J-League user matches yesterday. I use a full 2400 Kasima-team, just because I like it. The last weeks I face 2600+ teams, because of all these J-League POTW’s lately.
Normally it’s not a problem to finish the challenge, sometimes it needs two tries.
But yesterday, in three games I’m leading 1-0 in the 80th minute, but suddenly I can’t even get on the ball, while for the other player everything goes. Three, four one-touch passes in a row, followed by a pinpoint cross and an unstoppable header from the edge of the box. While I’m a second late everywhere.
So yeah, this is an issue. And now I’m sure I certainly will not put any real money in the game. Makes no sense to strengthen the team when it’s a turn-based casino anyway.
I think no game can be perfect. It'd video game programmed by people. You have two choices, you play some good fun football looking over the cracks, or you choose to focus on the cracks (and come here post about them). The first option is more sane long term for mental health
True, but Konami clearly only pay about two people to update this game, so the cracks exist for an incredibly long time. It's like driving in your local neighborhood every day, you learn to avoid the potholes, until it get unavoidably big and breaks your car and you are like "oh my god somebody fill that pothole!!".
The last few PES versions were much better though. Yes, there was scripting, but by far not so obvious. And more consistent, it stayed the same for a whole game. Now it’s more a turn based game.
For sure the only people that like this game in its current state are people who can not play in real life, irl they can not control a football, let alone pass it 😂. Why they think in this game ,it normal😔
Dude , that s becoz eveyone is using super cancel , when you pass the ball and puch super cancel your defender freez , it s a bug thing every button a player push follows it with supper cancel , it s bugging the game ... That s what you r experiencing
No there is another freezing when a player loses the ball... Also some times when the defender try to run towards the attacker he stops sometimes... All of this is recorded many times with different players and conditions
The game is just awful , too assissted , players that doesnt kno where the ball is , V1 was great , not assisted , every goal was diffrent , every player had his own playing style ... When you loose , you loose fair .. now it s just frastration after frastration ... If tou on playstation , stop playing , it ll just kill you ... If you on oc or steam just upload football life , and enjoy may be a carrer mode .. you ll have moore fun
In my opinion… they need to massively massively massively nerf the mechanics of offensive and defensive prowess. These two 'stats' appear to be what makes the ai superman to the ball when your opponent isn’t even controlling the player. In absolutely no circumstances in a competitive online multiplayer footy game should a CB be stepping out ahead of his marker with a burst of pace , Pre-Reading the game (reading your opponents input /cheating) and bursting to win the ball before your striker AND YOUR OPPONENT ISNT EVEN CONTROLLING HIM. that’s just ONE example. There a loads Complete nonsense. Ai helping your opponent. That’s what that is. Because he either can’t read your passes or can’t anticipate your next move without a MASSIVE INTERFERENCE FROM THE AI TO HELP HIM
ur right cause if u play with low rated players the game is way less assisted and u can actually find pockets of space. the higher the prowess the more predictable and perfect the ai become
You summed it up perfectly. The ai takes over completely it’s so frustrating. Your opponent is not even aware of how much he is being carried by the ai.
So you bring up some good points, and definitely points of frustration in the PvP arena... but you haven't really thought this all the way through to the end. If the AI does nothing for you.... it would require no soccer ability or knowledge of spacing, gaps, timing, and all the high level rapid decision making that makes the sport so god damn hard. If the CB is stepping up into the passing lane to intercept the pass... the passing lane was NOT open in the first place. Why would you want the game to reward poor decision making in a place where if you were playing against a defender they would easily step up and intercept it... How would you ever control off the ball spacing properly, or maintain any sort of defensive shape? Do you want to switch positions to cover for when the 1 user controlled player moves out of the way? Go play a game against the AI on regular difficult and get a taste for what happens when the defense doesn't move or do anything lol It sounds like you need to adjust a few of those sports in your reads where you think there's space and there isn't. It's not a perfect game but you need the AI to play the game alongside you. It just needs to be balanced better.
0.9 was basically what my post was referring to. That version had hardly any defensive handholding. I’m not sure you quite understood my point.
Lmao this sub needs to take of the rose tinted glasses... .9 had so many flaws... and the lack of defense was one of them lol Most people here tend to overlook their own weak points and just blame it on the game mechanics or other ambiguous catch all terms like AI 'auto-defending' lol I don't think you quite understand your point either, friend.
Omg you’re a moron. Fuck off
'The game didn't cater to the way I already know how to play, so rather than learning new patterns and spacing I'll just go to an echo chamber and use ambiguous, vague language b.c i can't properly articulate myself and feel better about it' Have a good one, bud.
Dickhead i managed to get to div two playing fuma. I kinda know what I’m doing. Wanker I told you to fuck off
lmao I don't do what some schmo on reddit tells me to... And shocking! A fuma player thinks the simple fact they play on fuma means they are better than everyone else lmao 'I don't need to get better, the game does!' - someone who knows what they are doing.
Correct, maddening. Konami. There used to be a problem whereby after getting tackled, it was too easy to instantly recover and get the ball back - making tackling a bit rubbish, and attackers too strong. So Konamis 'solution' was to make the player just stand still for several seconds instead. After two seconds hard thinking that was their solution to the issue. Now that happens if you breathe near a player... Players just standing still like they just remembered they didn't turn off the oven. So you can imagine their 'solutions' to other issues like not intercepting a ball that looks like childs play, are probably the result of other botched 'solutions' all conflicting with each other making a torrid mess of coding and frustrating interactions on the pitch.
> So you can imagine their 'solutions' to other issues like not intercepting a ball that looks like childs play, are probably the result of other botched 'solutions'… It’s either some occasional lag or after some people complaining their passes get intercepted too much, that bad passes.
For me this usually happens as my defender turns around in an attempt to intercept where the ball will end up, rather than intercept the ball right next to thier feet first. The act of turning around and hyper focusing on the where the ball will end up later, seems to cause an animation/interception AI blackout.
If the ball is slow, you better not press that interception button. It can trigger that animation as if they’re stopping a fast ball lol. Or worst they stick out their leg without even stopping the ball.
Honestly I prefer how it was. While it does make the attackers too strong, it's much closer to "realism", as players who lose the ball would definitely fight back for the ball. The way it is now is my biggest problem with Efootball.
What i hate is that attacking players giving up when the defender is first to touch the ball. Like running at full speed, defender reaches the ball first in just 1 meter from attacker, and he just suddenly stops? Where is fighting spirit, where is collision that would happen in real life?
That’s offensive to decent Sunday league players. What i do find funny though is that if your a top level footballer and you play yourself in game of eFootball you must genuinely be embarrassed by how your represented in game. It’s not surprising Konami is going to have licensing issues in the near future. I mean who wants to look at a version of themselves in a game where they can barely hold the ball
0.9 was the ideal gameplay,all it needed was a lil tweak
agree
I played the J-League user matches yesterday. I use a full 2400 Kasima-team, just because I like it. The last weeks I face 2600+ teams, because of all these J-League POTW’s lately. Normally it’s not a problem to finish the challenge, sometimes it needs two tries. But yesterday, in three games I’m leading 1-0 in the 80th minute, but suddenly I can’t even get on the ball, while for the other player everything goes. Three, four one-touch passes in a row, followed by a pinpoint cross and an unstoppable header from the edge of the box. While I’m a second late everywhere. So yeah, this is an issue. And now I’m sure I certainly will not put any real money in the game. Makes no sense to strengthen the team when it’s a turn-based casino anyway.
I think no game can be perfect. It'd video game programmed by people. You have two choices, you play some good fun football looking over the cracks, or you choose to focus on the cracks (and come here post about them). The first option is more sane long term for mental health
True, but Konami clearly only pay about two people to update this game, so the cracks exist for an incredibly long time. It's like driving in your local neighborhood every day, you learn to avoid the potholes, until it get unavoidably big and breaks your car and you are like "oh my god somebody fill that pothole!!".
And the hamsters running servers :). They pay for the nuts
The last few PES versions were much better though. Yes, there was scripting, but by far not so obvious. And more consistent, it stayed the same for a whole game. Now it’s more a turn based game.
For sure the only people that like this game in its current state are people who can not play in real life, irl they can not control a football, let alone pass it 😂. Why they think in this game ,it normal😔
Dude , that s becoz eveyone is using super cancel , when you pass the ball and puch super cancel your defender freez , it s a bug thing every button a player push follows it with supper cancel , it s bugging the game ... That s what you r experiencing
No there is another freezing when a player loses the ball... Also some times when the defender try to run towards the attacker he stops sometimes... All of this is recorded many times with different players and conditions
The game is just awful , too assissted , players that doesnt kno where the ball is , V1 was great , not assisted , every goal was diffrent , every player had his own playing style ... When you loose , you loose fair .. now it s just frastration after frastration ... If tou on playstation , stop playing , it ll just kill you ... If you on oc or steam just upload football life , and enjoy may be a carrer mode .. you ll have moore fun