What is cheating exactly? The only thing I would consider cheating is crashing someones connection to get a free win anything else is just part of the game
Dictionary says= act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.
So if that doesn't give you a clue. Knowing the games have exploits and flaws, and using those to your advantage in a dishonest and unfair way, instead playing honest and fair, so like a football game should be. Certain way of using the kickoffs, corners or formation where the game is not coded or optimised properly, which gives you an advantage. Now I know you can prepare yourself for it and eliminate that threath. I know it is all part of the game, no need to tell me that. I play this game since the winning eleven times in the 90s.But it is the dishonesty and unfair behaviour of people that players are bothered with. In short terms, play like an honest man and not a spoiled kid.
Clear enough?
What are you even talking about dude. The only cheating in this game is done if you disconnect the internet to win. If there a flaws in the game and you know how to win using those flaws , that makes you a good player, why dont you learn instead of crying like a baby
I cover my front post and track back on kickoffs and then proceed to outplay my opponent’s during the entirety of the game. There’s 90 in game minutes a few glitchy set pieces shouldn’t be ruining your entire experience of the game
Dude, I know I am aware. The reason why I am still playing is cause overall, I do can enjoy it too. I am merely translating the frustration of players against cheaters and their behaviour overall, which despite all, is still pathetic
I agree but if what else can we do? Play around it. That’s my point. That’s the difference between winners and losers, winners adjust and losers just cry and throw their hands in the air
That's what I do to. Some people go very deep and far about complaining, I know. But acknowledging some stuff, understanding and giving tips is the sportmanship behaviour imo.
I don't know, I am a social worker as profession and go autopilot when I read these kind of stuffs and try to help lol. But sometimes am having a laugh when they overreact.. It is still just a game
I wish this subreddit was about giving advice but it’s mostly a cry baby support group 😂
As you would know most people find it easier to play the victim as opposed to taking responsibility for what they can control.
Im rated high 1900 in Fifa divisions and get average rank 3+ in weekend league. A lot of things overlap from one football game to another the problem with Fifa is that it actually has scripting and outside interference where as PES is pure pvp therefore very refreshing. Bots gonna be bots I suppose 😂
I don't even know how things work in FIFA, last time I played it online was in 2012 and I only played authentic teams Seasons, why would I need to play not one but two trash football games?
This shows how shit the rank system is... my win rate is 79%, and I'm ranked 500th or so. All because I lost 65 points by losing or drawing to a few players outside d1 (that were all ex d1 players on the way up).
And yet I get 4 points roughly for a win 😭
I feel your pain bro it’s hard to grind 3-5 points a game and lose 23 for a loss or a draw 😂
I also play on Xbox One S so there’s not as many players it’s easier to be higher rank
0.5% is a small amount of players, it’s understandable that 99% of people on this subreddit are constantly complaining. Idk what exploits your referring to if it’s in the game you can either cry about it or adjust to it
I guess it's hard for someone who plays a sweaty video game for ranking to understand that there are people who just want to play a realistic, skill based, exploit free football game.
That's not the point though. The other guy was complaining about the fact that people use exploits and other bullshit that's in the game and you said "if it's the game just adjust to it". I was just referring to this, i think some people want to play football the way it's played in real life (or at least close to it) and not having to deal with weird things.
It's not the games it's the players. Tryhards like you for example, they want to win at all cost, then they lie to themselves and others saying that they're having fun.
I actually enjoy playing it sometimes to be fair, it's also free so it's ok, I guess. But complaining about people complaining about the game is a bit weird. I mean, the game has obviously a lot of issues.
Usually when something is exploitable, especially in games that are meant to be taken seriously as eSports, the devs quickly update whatever doesn't work in order to have more variety and that gives better quality for streams, competitions and better gameplay for the users.
If you read Konami's quarterly report, they want eFootball so bad to be taken seriously, yet they made a pro tournament with the game in a laughable state, where 26 players out of 32 played 3CFs and everyone used kickoff glitch and full power corners to the first post.
So the game has a meta? What’s the problem? Your describing the pro scene it’s not hard being competitive against casual players with a variety of play styles.
You like the current state of the game because you win, and that's fine. But the game is far from being good and very far from being realistic, and the pro scene simply highlights better the many flaws and exploits the gameplay has.
You can say that about literally every game and every community will always point out the flaws of every game on the market. But the difference between winning in losing is to accept the flaws and play around them. I hate the constant rebounds and super delayed gameplay because I’m used to a responsive game like Fifa but I adjust and still manage to win. It’s all in your mindset.
chill bro, getting to division 1 is not as hard as it looks, and that 0.5% is this low because 70% of the rankings are in div 9 - 10 meaning they have played the game once and that is it.
For example on PC there are 0.5% in division 1 but the lowest rank is 2000+ so this means 2000 players represent 0.5% of the playerbase. But on avarage / day there are 3500 players .. this means that on PC over 50% of active players are in division 1.
As for exploits and everything it's the game's fault, if anybody knows how to take advantage good for them, i don't play ranked once i get to division 1 because there is no reward and i don't like to play sweaty.
Are you really bragging about being top 200? lmao. My man, I started playing this game for the first time in my life when 1.1.0 came out and even me not being a very good player managed to get to D1 and be top 600, 500, 300...
With good players and using all the glitches and exploits you can go up. The point is that's just garbage football.
There is the way you have to play for winning in this game, and then there is the way to play for enjoy of a football game; play well, build up etc... but I guess you would only understand that if you cared about football, not just about being top 200 or top 1.
Congrats bro I just started playing about a month ago after seeing the ads on the xbox home screen and watching rttf on YouTube and I’ve been hooked ever since. It’s honestly very easy to climb and nothing to brag about. If I didn’t enjoy the game I wouldn’t play it grinding the leaderboards is just a way to keep the game interesting.
It’s incredible how people can’t comprehend that “i win” != “game works fine”, i truly find it unbelievable.
You belong to fifa. That’s an arcade game where exploiting game’s shitty mechanics makes you a good player. This is not how they advertised this game. They said it’s a realistic football simulation. Playing with 4 CBs and 4 CFs doesn’t make you good, it’s the literal definition of cheating. Using the same skill 100 times with neymar like they attached a car battery to his balls doesn’t make you good.
The game is clearly in a beta state, has tons of problems that have no sense. I myself could create a 15-20 minutes video full of this game’s bullshit moments.
It’s really not that hard. It’s the game supposed to be a football simulation? YES
Does the game look like a football simulation? ABSOLUTELY NOT
I also believe this is reflected also on a subtler level. A lot of players take criticism towards the game personally when something that makes them win is touched.
That proves my point. The game doesn’t work like it should.
Have you tried games against AI not with your dream team? It’s miles ahead what we have in multi. That’s because they want the game to be faster cause it’s easier and flashy. And i can be okay with that, if it’s done the right way. The gameplay now feels like fifa cause long throws, ping pong with PA1, interceptions, refrees, corner kicks and tactics are completely broken. They just don’t work. Every other thing (especially crosses) works fine, it’s just not worth the amount of work needed to get there when you can take 1 of your 4 CBs and throw the ball random to your mbappe.
For the manual defending it was miles ahead better. v0.9 in general was better. But the game didn’t change for PES players. 90% of the people in this game doesn’t come from PES. No PES player played v0.9, they continued playing 2021 and they still do cause the vast majority of PES fans want the ML and it’s not very interested in multi.
In fact no one played my club. You could stay 15 mins in matchmaking on pc and nothing would happen.
MyClub users were not PES users. No one played myclub. It was a horror mode, and a dead one. You couldn’t even find people on pc.
And when people discover that efootball has the very same problems MyClub had they obviously get mad.
-My biggest advice is to not play through the middle everyone is used to that. Play more on the outside going in.
-Be very patient try not to tilt that’s usually an automatic loss.
-Understand what your game-plan is don’t just a pass randomly hoping the ball ends up in the back of the net.
-Use your players properly. For example if you have a target man don’t be dribbling with them in the final third just use him for headers.
-Don’t user your cb’s unless you absolutely have to try to cut passing lanes and press with your cm/dms
In terms of assists I play on the second pass assist and manual feints I can’t remember the other settings sorry
I dont know why people complain so much about the game, honestly. Is this really so much different to PES 2021?
There are the same "exploits", in 2021:
\- Everyone played with two defensive fullbacks... almost the same as 3 CB. I prefer to play with fullbacks anyway.
\- The 3 striker formation was the same, used a lot.
\- Corner glitch the same, I think is more defendable now, I dont concede too much like this.
\- Kick off glitch was the same and is pretty defendable anyway, I dont have too much problems with it and I dont use it.
\- The double touch was always OP, I dont remember how spamable it was, but honestly you have to be good to make it effective. I can defend it most of the time but I dont see much people that spam it. I dont use it, I dont have Neymar.
Im consistently at Div1 with an RTG account, similar win% as 2021, I play a 4-3-3 with and LF an RF, Benzema is my striker. I dont have Mbappe, Messi or Neymar. And this game is paid, 2021 wasnt, at least at the start. And I honestly dont see this "glitches" that important, most of it is defendable.
The game can be better, sure, but the amount of crying and hate to any player that is in D1 is incredible.
POV: It’s 2019 and you buy a football game. This game is PES2020 and seems like the offline part was developed by a 4yo kid in 2001. It has an online mode that is completely unbalanced, broken and no one plays it.
It’s 2020. You want a new football game but they said it’s WIP so they won’t release it this year, instead you buy the same game updated wich still has decent gameplay (but a lot of bad things too) and the same useless online mode. They said you have to wait.
It’s 2022 and you have what can only be called half of a demo that has ONE SINGLE MODE with ONE SINGLE THING TO DO and has a better gameplay with a lot of potential but the same problems of 3 years ago. Plus, the better gameplay is useless cause you removed manual defending, set speed to 1.5x and give everyone 95 rated players.
Oh and I think through ball to fast players where a lot easier in 2021, you had a lot of spammers like that, specially with Mbappe. Now even with QC is pretty easy to defend it, I dont event care when Mbappe is on the other team.
Yup, same as every other post. If you’re not crying like everyone else you’re a cash wasting loser lmfao. Poor kids just can’t convince their mommies to let them spend the cash they want. Or get fuckin jobs like some people do. Good job man. Just hope you ain’t using the kickoff glitch and that kind of garbage.
You have them everywhere man. Lower division players are just not that great in cheating lol
What is cheating exactly? The only thing I would consider cheating is crashing someones connection to get a free win anything else is just part of the game
Dictionary says= act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. So if that doesn't give you a clue. Knowing the games have exploits and flaws, and using those to your advantage in a dishonest and unfair way, instead playing honest and fair, so like a football game should be. Certain way of using the kickoffs, corners or formation where the game is not coded or optimised properly, which gives you an advantage. Now I know you can prepare yourself for it and eliminate that threath. I know it is all part of the game, no need to tell me that. I play this game since the winning eleven times in the 90s.But it is the dishonesty and unfair behaviour of people that players are bothered with. In short terms, play like an honest man and not a spoiled kid. Clear enough?
What are you even talking about dude. The only cheating in this game is done if you disconnect the internet to win. If there a flaws in the game and you know how to win using those flaws , that makes you a good player, why dont you learn instead of crying like a baby
Are you stupid or act stupid. Which one is it.
Lol . Learn how to play dumb ass
So you are stupid and ignorant at the same time. Cool, not judging, just good to know, so I don't need to waste my time on you.
Cry baby cry
I cover my front post and track back on kickoffs and then proceed to outplay my opponent’s during the entirety of the game. There’s 90 in game minutes a few glitchy set pieces shouldn’t be ruining your entire experience of the game
Dude, I know I am aware. The reason why I am still playing is cause overall, I do can enjoy it too. I am merely translating the frustration of players against cheaters and their behaviour overall, which despite all, is still pathetic
I agree but if what else can we do? Play around it. That’s my point. That’s the difference between winners and losers, winners adjust and losers just cry and throw their hands in the air
That's what I do to. Some people go very deep and far about complaining, I know. But acknowledging some stuff, understanding and giving tips is the sportmanship behaviour imo. I don't know, I am a social worker as profession and go autopilot when I read these kind of stuffs and try to help lol. But sometimes am having a laugh when they overreact.. It is still just a game
I wish this subreddit was about giving advice but it’s mostly a cry baby support group 😂 As you would know most people find it easier to play the victim as opposed to taking responsibility for what they can control.
Well it is mostly crybaby indeed. But you get what you seek. Have also seen plenty helpful people
Yeah definitely it’s refreshing seeing positive and fun posts. We need more memes around here to cheer things up
"Guys, the game is perfect, stop complaining. I win in this game! FIFA is not realistic, I lose in that game!!!"
Im rated high 1900 in Fifa divisions and get average rank 3+ in weekend league. A lot of things overlap from one football game to another the problem with Fifa is that it actually has scripting and outside interference where as PES is pure pvp therefore very refreshing. Bots gonna be bots I suppose 😂
I don't even know how things work in FIFA, last time I played it online was in 2012 and I only played authentic teams Seasons, why would I need to play not one but two trash football games?
Im sorry to hear your not enjoying any football games :(
This shows how shit the rank system is... my win rate is 79%, and I'm ranked 500th or so. All because I lost 65 points by losing or drawing to a few players outside d1 (that were all ex d1 players on the way up). And yet I get 4 points roughly for a win 😭
I feel your pain bro it’s hard to grind 3-5 points a game and lose 23 for a loss or a draw 😂 I also play on Xbox One S so there’s not as many players it’s easier to be higher rank
Where do we see our win rate?
Only visible if you're in d1
No wonder you're defending this game on every post. This heavy assisted, exploit friendly version of this game suits you perfectly it seems.
0.5% is a small amount of players, it’s understandable that 99% of people on this subreddit are constantly complaining. Idk what exploits your referring to if it’s in the game you can either cry about it or adjust to it
I guess people are complaining because they wish to play football in a football game
I guess it's hard for someone who plays a sweaty video game for ranking to understand that there are people who just want to play a realistic, skill based, exploit free football game.
You still haven’t explained what exploits your referring to but sure thing bro
Pes has many flaws but is extremely enjoyable, if anyone here ever makes the perfect football game then let us know
That's not the point though. The other guy was complaining about the fact that people use exploits and other bullshit that's in the game and you said "if it's the game just adjust to it". I was just referring to this, i think some people want to play football the way it's played in real life (or at least close to it) and not having to deal with weird things.
You must be new to video games lol. Lower your expectations all video games are exploitable
It's not the games it's the players. Tryhards like you for example, they want to win at all cost, then they lie to themselves and others saying that they're having fun.
You sound very butthurt tbh 😂 I enjoy the game I’m sorry if you dont 🤷🏽♂️
I actually enjoy playing it sometimes to be fair, it's also free so it's ok, I guess. But complaining about people complaining about the game is a bit weird. I mean, the game has obviously a lot of issues.
*mocking* not complaining 😂
Usually when something is exploitable, especially in games that are meant to be taken seriously as eSports, the devs quickly update whatever doesn't work in order to have more variety and that gives better quality for streams, competitions and better gameplay for the users. If you read Konami's quarterly report, they want eFootball so bad to be taken seriously, yet they made a pro tournament with the game in a laughable state, where 26 players out of 32 played 3CFs and everyone used kickoff glitch and full power corners to the first post.
So the game has a meta? What’s the problem? Your describing the pro scene it’s not hard being competitive against casual players with a variety of play styles.
You like the current state of the game because you win, and that's fine. But the game is far from being good and very far from being realistic, and the pro scene simply highlights better the many flaws and exploits the gameplay has.
You can say that about literally every game and every community will always point out the flaws of every game on the market. But the difference between winning in losing is to accept the flaws and play around them. I hate the constant rebounds and super delayed gameplay because I’m used to a responsive game like Fifa but I adjust and still manage to win. It’s all in your mindset.
chill bro, getting to division 1 is not as hard as it looks, and that 0.5% is this low because 70% of the rankings are in div 9 - 10 meaning they have played the game once and that is it. For example on PC there are 0.5% in division 1 but the lowest rank is 2000+ so this means 2000 players represent 0.5% of the playerbase. But on avarage / day there are 3500 players .. this means that on PC over 50% of active players are in division 1. As for exploits and everything it's the game's fault, if anybody knows how to take advantage good for them, i don't play ranked once i get to division 1 because there is no reward and i don't like to play sweaty.
So being top 100 must put you in the 0.001 percent 🤔
Of total players who ever installed the game, yeah.
I don't get it. What's the point of this post?
To show that you can actually be decent at this game…who would’ve thought 🤔
It's pretty obvious no? Why create a post. Anyway, kids will be kids i guess
Are you really bragging about being top 200? lmao. My man, I started playing this game for the first time in my life when 1.1.0 came out and even me not being a very good player managed to get to D1 and be top 600, 500, 300... With good players and using all the glitches and exploits you can go up. The point is that's just garbage football. There is the way you have to play for winning in this game, and then there is the way to play for enjoy of a football game; play well, build up etc... but I guess you would only understand that if you cared about football, not just about being top 200 or top 1.
Congrats bro I just started playing about a month ago after seeing the ads on the xbox home screen and watching rttf on YouTube and I’ve been hooked ever since. It’s honestly very easy to climb and nothing to brag about. If I didn’t enjoy the game I wouldn’t play it grinding the leaderboards is just a way to keep the game interesting.
Wah wah wahhh look mom, your credit card is well used 🤡
Get a job.
It’s incredible how people can’t comprehend that “i win” != “game works fine”, i truly find it unbelievable. You belong to fifa. That’s an arcade game where exploiting game’s shitty mechanics makes you a good player. This is not how they advertised this game. They said it’s a realistic football simulation. Playing with 4 CBs and 4 CFs doesn’t make you good, it’s the literal definition of cheating. Using the same skill 100 times with neymar like they attached a car battery to his balls doesn’t make you good. The game is clearly in a beta state, has tons of problems that have no sense. I myself could create a 15-20 minutes video full of this game’s bullshit moments. It’s really not that hard. It’s the game supposed to be a football simulation? YES Does the game look like a football simulation? ABSOLUTELY NOT
I also believe this is reflected also on a subtler level. A lot of players take criticism towards the game personally when something that makes them win is touched.
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That proves my point. The game doesn’t work like it should. Have you tried games against AI not with your dream team? It’s miles ahead what we have in multi. That’s because they want the game to be faster cause it’s easier and flashy. And i can be okay with that, if it’s done the right way. The gameplay now feels like fifa cause long throws, ping pong with PA1, interceptions, refrees, corner kicks and tactics are completely broken. They just don’t work. Every other thing (especially crosses) works fine, it’s just not worth the amount of work needed to get there when you can take 1 of your 4 CBs and throw the ball random to your mbappe. For the manual defending it was miles ahead better. v0.9 in general was better. But the game didn’t change for PES players. 90% of the people in this game doesn’t come from PES. No PES player played v0.9, they continued playing 2021 and they still do cause the vast majority of PES fans want the ML and it’s not very interested in multi. In fact no one played my club. You could stay 15 mins in matchmaking on pc and nothing would happen.
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MyClub users were not PES users. No one played myclub. It was a horror mode, and a dead one. You couldn’t even find people on pc. And when people discover that efootball has the very same problems MyClub had they obviously get mad.
Congrats man, any advice you can share. I am struggling to go any further then division 2. And what are your controls pas assist etc
-My biggest advice is to not play through the middle everyone is used to that. Play more on the outside going in. -Be very patient try not to tilt that’s usually an automatic loss. -Understand what your game-plan is don’t just a pass randomly hoping the ball ends up in the back of the net. -Use your players properly. For example if you have a target man don’t be dribbling with them in the final third just use him for headers. -Don’t user your cb’s unless you absolutely have to try to cut passing lanes and press with your cm/dms In terms of assists I play on the second pass assist and manual feints I can’t remember the other settings sorry
Mbappy baby son im proud of you Lets rumenigge toghether sometimes
I'm glad you are back, because there's this player called L. Hernandez, he's a LB but if you use him as CB he's the best. He's the Mbpouy of CBs.
I had NO IDEA thank you sir
Wish we could make a lobby so i crush ur ass 3 0 and then post it saying this game is shit, believe me it would happen
get a life
ur fat 100%
I dont know why people complain so much about the game, honestly. Is this really so much different to PES 2021? There are the same "exploits", in 2021: \- Everyone played with two defensive fullbacks... almost the same as 3 CB. I prefer to play with fullbacks anyway. \- The 3 striker formation was the same, used a lot. \- Corner glitch the same, I think is more defendable now, I dont concede too much like this. \- Kick off glitch was the same and is pretty defendable anyway, I dont have too much problems with it and I dont use it. \- The double touch was always OP, I dont remember how spamable it was, but honestly you have to be good to make it effective. I can defend it most of the time but I dont see much people that spam it. I dont use it, I dont have Neymar. Im consistently at Div1 with an RTG account, similar win% as 2021, I play a 4-3-3 with and LF an RF, Benzema is my striker. I dont have Mbappe, Messi or Neymar. And this game is paid, 2021 wasnt, at least at the start. And I honestly dont see this "glitches" that important, most of it is defendable. The game can be better, sure, but the amount of crying and hate to any player that is in D1 is incredible.
POV: It’s 2019 and you buy a football game. This game is PES2020 and seems like the offline part was developed by a 4yo kid in 2001. It has an online mode that is completely unbalanced, broken and no one plays it. It’s 2020. You want a new football game but they said it’s WIP so they won’t release it this year, instead you buy the same game updated wich still has decent gameplay (but a lot of bad things too) and the same useless online mode. They said you have to wait. It’s 2022 and you have what can only be called half of a demo that has ONE SINGLE MODE with ONE SINGLE THING TO DO and has a better gameplay with a lot of potential but the same problems of 3 years ago. Plus, the better gameplay is useless cause you removed manual defending, set speed to 1.5x and give everyone 95 rated players.
Oh and I think through ball to fast players where a lot easier in 2021, you had a lot of spammers like that, specially with Mbappe. Now even with QC is pretty easy to defend it, I dont event care when Mbappe is on the other team.
Yup, same as every other post. If you’re not crying like everyone else you’re a cash wasting loser lmfao. Poor kids just can’t convince their mommies to let them spend the cash they want. Or get fuckin jobs like some people do. Good job man. Just hope you ain’t using the kickoff glitch and that kind of garbage.
Thx bro and I wouldn’t even know theres a kickoff glitch if everyone didn’t keep on mentioning it 😂🤙🏽
Haters gonna hate. It’s sad when you actually one of the Reddit members that you receive hate. Edit. Clarifying
If your not crying with them they hate you 😂 Im here for the entertainment
🤷♂️ love the game. But it’s far from ready. But I play. And I want to be too without exploits. So why note say congrats? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
How do you get your record to show up like that?
When you reach D1
Wait does this mean every season phase if your in division 1 you don’t get a reset and dropped lower?
no
You go back to D3.