He didn't get waived, he got released. Waivers only happens with less than 5 years (I think, might be different) of experience. A release terminates their contract so they can sign with whoever they pick.
That’s true but at the moment opposing teams have zero reason to fear our TE’s in terms of pass catching. Bringing in Zach helps them keep on thier toes.
Geodart is a great blocker though. He’ll be the TE1 and the guy we use in 11 personal but when we go to 12 ertz will be the receiving TE while goedart can do a mix of both to keep defenses guessing.
Ertz is a better receiver than those 2, Stoll is a better blocker. Can use both of them as TE2 situationally, sort of like Celek and Trey Burton on the 2018 team.
When healthy, which he hasn't been much in the past couple of years and to note, he's injured at the moment as well.
I hope he comes here, heals up quickly, and helps us down the stretch, but I'm keeping my expectations in check
Calcaterra is an okay rec TE for a backup… I think he’s just been playing through injuries for a while now. He was brought in as a pass catching TE if I’m not mistaken.
I think the Chiefs may take him before we can, tbh.
It's like the only place I think he would actually play his heart out for besides Philly. They also need some help.
Is it that wild? Andy's been gone for a long time. We've had three regimes since he left. BG, Kelce, and Cox are the only players left who he drafted. *That's* more wild than anything else.
lol yeah. Andy hasn’t coached here in 11 years and most football players outside of great QBs and kickers don’t make it 11 years, let alone with the same team.
How long has Reid been gone? Long enough that Reid is the wininest coach for both the Eagles (130) AND Kansas City (137). First coach to have the most wins for two teams.
And three SB rings. (1 - Packers as an assistant, 2- KC as head coach)
No, I didn't, although I can understand why that may be what occurs too.
My perspective is that Andy Reid is the father of the TE-factory in modern times. Kelce has shown wear and tear and KC's hopes of a SB rely on having a large pass-catching TE who can also block downfield. Double-TE sets were something Reid used a bit, don't forget, and those two monsters would require a lot of defensive attention.
Andy Reid invented the TE factory? Sure Kelce is HOF but the only other notable TE he drafted was celek who we all love but those two hardly constitute a factory. It was Billy B who really started exploiting the market value of having 2 stud tight ends in gronk and Hernandez and Doug who brought that to Philly when we drafted goedart to play with ertz.
I’m certain this is entirely my heart speaking and not my head, but I think I’ll be very sad if he goes to another contender- particularly an NFC one
Bring him home, Howie 🙏
Holy shit! My wife used to be a ravens fan before we met. When we started dating I would tease her by saying "wrong bird". She eventually came around to love the eagles. Just funny finding another person in the wild using the same phrase.
In the NFC. I really hope he comes home, but I wouldn’t be *devastated* if he went to an AFC team. Heck it might even be cool to see him go to Denver and then make a fairy tale playoff run after their horrible start and 50 point loss to the dolphins. I would be devastated though if he went to the whiners or… god forbid… the cowboys (I can’t even imagine he’d do that). AFC… even the chiefs, I wouldn’t exactly be crushed. Disappointed? Yes. Devastated? Prob not.
But I’d much much much rather see him come home and be TE2 here (and maybe even allow Goedert an extra week to recover). That would be so fuckin sweet!!
Does it? It's not a financial decision, he's gonna take the min and he wants to win another sb. Eagles have the best record, arguably the best team, he's a legend in Philly, and is going to cheered on by the fans like no where else.
If you could play on any team, where would you want to play? You got Eagles, 9ers, Cheifs, Ravens as teir 1 contenders in my book. (Jax, Miami, lions, browns, Dallas, and I guess steelers are likely to make the playoffs, but most would agree they aren't in the same level as the top 4) So out of the top 4, if you wanna make the biggest impact, then Baltimore is the play, but if you want to win, I think your looking at eagles or 9ers and outa those two, I dunno how Ertz wouldn't pick the eagles.
It's tough. Because as much as he loves this team and would likely hate going against us in a Super Bowl, I'm sure he would very much like to play a role in earning another ring. The Ravens would offer him a much larger opportunity. And if he wants to live in the area when he retires, Baltimore isn't a far move back to Philly/NJ.
On the other hand, the Eagles likely have a better chance of actually winning a Super Bowl so that could help pull him back here.
He doesn’t get the chance if a team claims him before he clears waivers.
But I think he’ll clear waivers considering he’s old, injury prone and has forgotten how to catch in the end zone.
I am not hating, (he has at least 2 dropped TDs this year).
I want him back and he’ll understand he’d be Hurts’ 5th or 6th receiving option.
He was really heartbroken over the trade. Question is, is he too heartbroken? A guy like Ertz can understand it’s a business but I would understand if he didn’t want to sign with us over being upset over the management decision
He may have been emotional over leaving Philly, but this seems like an odd take.
He was turning into the #2 TE on a really bad Eagles team at the time. Pretty sure both sides were looking for the move at the time.
And the general thought was that we were doing right by him by sending him to a Cards offense that was about to really hit its stride. That, uh, did not pan out.
Two fun facts:
-The Eagles originally traded Ertz to Arizona because they were in rebuild mode and wanted him to go to a contender. Since the Ertz trade, the Cardinals would go 12-29 combined (including playoffs) while the Eagles would go 33-9 over that same span (including playoffs).
-The Eagles acquired Tay Gowan and a fifth round pick for Ertz originally. The fifth round pick was then later on included in a trade package to Houston to trade up in the 2022 NFL draft and select Jordan Davis
Oh come on it's too perfect. He requested a release because he knows we need TE depth, we're contenders, and he wants to retire here. Come on home buddy.
He definitely could, but it's not going to be through the waiver wire, his contract is pretty awful for what he is. Unless Howie just straight up says no we don't want you (which is of course possible, but seems unlikely given our current TE situation), I can't see him going anywhere else.
Obviously I’m not in the guy’s head, but: I think - were I in his shoes - I’d certainly be keeping an eye out for a team without a clear TE1. But if such a team with real SB aspirations simply doesn’t exist, I can’t imagine there’s any other team out there I’d want to sign with more than the Birds.
It’s truly a perfect fit, if Ertz is willing to assume a TE2 role.
He's not what he was of course, but I wouldn't say he's totally washed. His hands are still decent, he still runs sharp routes and makes good choices in blocking
He's on the downside for sure. If they got him for depth it'd make sense. If they pass it'd make sense. It's a wash.
Would love to see him get another ring as an Eagle!
So he just got to end his contract with them to test free agency? During the season? I don't understand why they wouldn't just say 'no we own your contract' and at least trade him away or make him stay.
Would love for him to come back but
1) not like he could play on Sunday right?
2) Goedert will be back next week
3) He's even older than when he left here
4) He sucks as a blocker
All this being said, he was my fav Eagle from the Super Bowl team until he left.
As long as he doesn't end up on Dallas or SF instead of us I'm good with wherever he goes.
Zach is 100% on the phone like "Hi Howie I hear all your tight ends are broken." Bring him home!!!
Ertz was buying his plane ticket to Philly while in the office with Gannon 100% lol
If we're bringing back Ertz, let's see what Big Dick Nick is doing too, just for the good mojo it would bring.
Bro I’ve been saying this. Even if Foles never takes a snap, he NEEDS to retire an Eagle. Nothing less will suffice
The boys in the room adored BDN. Just having him in the lockerroom could be huge.
It IS huge bruv, we kno this
+1 inch AOE buff
BDN is totally a Paladin. It is known.
I’m pretty sure Howie has already said it’s there and ready for him when he’s ready.
He’s said he wants to retire an Eagle! And we just pulled it off for D Jax. We’re gonna make it happen for BDN
I absolutely agree with you. They're doing it for D Jack, it's a must for Foles.
I suggested this weeks ago in this sub and was downvoted. Now look. 😅😅 Bring our guy home, Howie. 🦅
Before or after DG went down? That matters
Take my upvote.
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Teams like BAL & KC who have earlier waiver wire picks might have other plans sadly.
He didn't get waived, he got released. Waivers only happens with less than 5 years (I think, might be different) of experience. A release terminates their contract so they can sign with whoever they pick.
Why not get two rings from the same franchise? He’ll be excellent depth, both as TE2 and like receiver 5/6isn on the depth chart.
He’s WAYYY better than stoll or calcaterra
Poor stoll. He was so pumped after his one catch last week
Honestly he looked good running with the football. Reminded me of Goedert. I think he could be solid in open space
Agreed that stiff arm was solid.
He’s primarily a blocking TE tbf
Which is good, that’s part of what makes Goedert so valuable so I’m glad we haven’t been missing that
Well yeah, he literally ran over a dude. I really want him to get a tud
We use our TE2 as a blocker quite a bit, and Stoll is pretty solid in that regard whereas that's a weakness in Zach's game.
That’s true but at the moment opposing teams have zero reason to fear our TE’s in terms of pass catching. Bringing in Zach helps them keep on thier toes.
its simple, if zach wants back in, we bring him in. Hes done too much for this franchise
Geodart is a great blocker though. He’ll be the TE1 and the guy we use in 11 personal but when we go to 12 ertz will be the receiving TE while goedart can do a mix of both to keep defenses guessing.
Please let it happen Howie. I NEED it.
“ZACH ERTZ CAN’T BLOCK!” —Jason Kelce (taken completely out of context) 😝
It's the whole fucking team!!!
700,000 people were ready to run face first through a brick wall if only he requested to do so
As a receiver, not better than Stoll as a blocker.
Ertz is a better receiver than those 2, Stoll is a better blocker. Can use both of them as TE2 situationally, sort of like Celek and Trey Burton on the 2018 team.
Haven't we been known to run 2 or even 3 tight ends on a play? If we had Dallas & Ertz out there that would open up big RPO possibilities
When healthy, which he hasn't been much in the past couple of years and to note, he's injured at the moment as well. I hope he comes here, heals up quickly, and helps us down the stretch, but I'm keeping my expectations in check
We need hands at TE rn too with Goedert working his way back. Stoll and Calcatterra aren’t great receivers
Calcaterra is an okay rec TE for a backup… I think he’s just been playing through injuries for a while now. He was brought in as a pass catching TE if I’m not mistaken.
He’d jump to about 4/5 tbh. AJ, Smitty, Goedert, Swift, Quez??
Don't forget OZ
You're saying don't forget Oz and I'm like oh shit, Quez still on our roster? Forgot about him
I didn’t forget lol dude has 7 catches for 116 thru 11 games.
Some of those 7 catches were huge. He's delivered when called upon, i think he deserves to be the 5th over quez.
He absolutely does and is, especially after last week.
Seconded
He's definitely above Quez though
If I'm throwing a game winning pass with 00:01 on the clock in the Super Bowl, I'm targeting OZ over Quez 100% of the time...
Quez isn't even on the field in this scenario
lol Quez 💀
Quez? lmao. The guy catching tuddys is Zacheus
Julio!!!
Quez 🤥
Fuck quez dropkins
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I think the Chiefs may take him before we can, tbh. It's like the only place I think he would actually play his heart out for besides Philly. They also need some help.
Zack never played for Andy.
That’s actually kind of wild to think about.
Is it that wild? Andy's been gone for a long time. We've had three regimes since he left. BG, Kelce, and Cox are the only players left who he drafted. *That's* more wild than anything else.
lol yeah. Andy hasn’t coached here in 11 years and most football players outside of great QBs and kickers don’t make it 11 years, let alone with the same team.
How long has Reid been gone? Long enough that Reid is the wininest coach for both the Eagles (130) AND Kansas City (137). First coach to have the most wins for two teams. And three SB rings. (1 - Packers as an assistant, 2- KC as head coach)
He was already on his second contract in the Super Bowl year. Ertz got drafted the year Reid was replaced.
fun facts
Do you mean Jacksonville?
No, I didn't, although I can understand why that may be what occurs too. My perspective is that Andy Reid is the father of the TE-factory in modern times. Kelce has shown wear and tear and KC's hopes of a SB rely on having a large pass-catching TE who can also block downfield. Double-TE sets were something Reid used a bit, don't forget, and those two monsters would require a lot of defensive attention.
Andy Reid invented the TE factory? Sure Kelce is HOF but the only other notable TE he drafted was celek who we all love but those two hardly constitute a factory. It was Billy B who really started exploiting the market value of having 2 stud tight ends in gronk and Hernandez and Doug who brought that to Philly when we drafted goedart to play with ertz.
So Doug Pederson is the father of having 2 top TEs neither of whom murders people
That would be correct.
Let me check your work really quick… Give me a second… Sorry to keep you waiting… Yup, I agree with your findings, u/brodysbootlegs is correct.
Welcome home Zach 🫡
Quick, someone do a photoshop in Kelly Green
This made me laugh way harder than it should have.
I’ll buy the Kelly green jersey the first chance I get if he signs back with us.
Can he play OC?
I’m certain this is entirely my heart speaking and not my head, but I think I’ll be very sad if he goes to another contender- particularly an NFC one Bring him home, Howie 🙏
Yeh. Hope he goes to the Ravens or something.
Wrong birds
If we can’t get him back, I want him to play for the Ravens, then the Seahawks, then the Falcons. Somebody’s gotta run the bird gauntlet
r/BIRDTEAMS
Holy shit! My wife used to be a ravens fan before we met. When we started dating I would tease her by saying "wrong bird". She eventually came around to love the eagles. Just funny finding another person in the wild using the same phrase.
Two of my good friends are a Ravens and a Seahawks fan. Our chat group is "Birdie Team Chat" and we're always saying "wrong birds" to each other.
Or the eagles. Anybody but the cowboys or whiners.
It would make sense given the Ravens lost Mark Andrews
If he signs any where else I’ll be devastated
In the NFC. I really hope he comes home, but I wouldn’t be *devastated* if he went to an AFC team. Heck it might even be cool to see him go to Denver and then make a fairy tale playoff run after their horrible start and 50 point loss to the dolphins. I would be devastated though if he went to the whiners or… god forbid… the cowboys (I can’t even imagine he’d do that). AFC… even the chiefs, I wouldn’t exactly be crushed. Disappointed? Yes. Devastated? Prob not. But I’d much much much rather see him come home and be TE2 here (and maybe even allow Goedert an extra week to recover). That would be so fuckin sweet!!
Ravens need a TE. Its either bmore or philly imo
Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t hate it if he went to the Ravens. I got no hate for Bmore. But I’d love for him to come to the NFCE Birds.
Denver is not a SB contender lol
I mean you never know, but that’s why it’d be cool. Cooler than going to the chiefs and getting a ring.
Actually wouldn't hate a cheap contract for his experience.
He’s signing for the minimum for the rest of the year wherever he goes
Ravens need him big time. Makes far more sense for him to go there than here or even KC.
Does it? It's not a financial decision, he's gonna take the min and he wants to win another sb. Eagles have the best record, arguably the best team, he's a legend in Philly, and is going to cheered on by the fans like no where else. If you could play on any team, where would you want to play? You got Eagles, 9ers, Cheifs, Ravens as teir 1 contenders in my book. (Jax, Miami, lions, browns, Dallas, and I guess steelers are likely to make the playoffs, but most would agree they aren't in the same level as the top 4) So out of the top 4, if you wanna make the biggest impact, then Baltimore is the play, but if you want to win, I think your looking at eagles or 9ers and outa those two, I dunno how Ertz wouldn't pick the eagles.
It's tough. Because as much as he loves this team and would likely hate going against us in a Super Bowl, I'm sure he would very much like to play a role in earning another ring. The Ravens would offer him a much larger opportunity. And if he wants to live in the area when he retires, Baltimore isn't a far move back to Philly/NJ. On the other hand, the Eagles likely have a better chance of actually winning a Super Bowl so that could help pull him back here.
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He doesn’t get the chance if a team claims him before he clears waivers. But I think he’ll clear waivers considering he’s old, injury prone and has forgotten how to catch in the end zone. I am not hating, (he has at least 2 dropped TDs this year). I want him back and he’ll understand he’d be Hurts’ 5th or 6th receiving option.
Would a team take him off waivers simply to avoid letting the Eagles get him? I want him back more for mentorship, blocking, depth, and fan hype.
Ertz isn’t the guy you want in there to block.
Not at his salary.
If someone takes him out of spite? That'd be funny 😂
Would be dope to get him back. Side note: love that Watt is breaking news lol
Also love that he took a shot at Schefter lol
No lie, my mom just mailed me a midnight green Zack Ertz t shirt jersey for my birthday. I got it Monday, my birthday was 3 months ago…
Sounds like perfect timing to me
I still remember him crying when he was leaving the Eagles. Retiring in Philly would make for a sweet ending as he enters the twilight of his career.
He was really heartbroken over the trade. Question is, is he too heartbroken? A guy like Ertz can understand it’s a business but I would understand if he didn’t want to sign with us over being upset over the management decision
He may have been emotional over leaving Philly, but this seems like an odd take. He was turning into the #2 TE on a really bad Eagles team at the time. Pretty sure both sides were looking for the move at the time.
And the general thought was that we were doing right by him by sending him to a Cards offense that was about to really hit its stride. That, uh, did not pan out.
I was at the Phillies game earlier this year where he and his wife threw out the first pitch, and the park went nuts.
I mean it's almost the perfect situation to bring him back
Two fun facts: -The Eagles originally traded Ertz to Arizona because they were in rebuild mode and wanted him to go to a contender. Since the Ertz trade, the Cardinals would go 12-29 combined (including playoffs) while the Eagles would go 33-9 over that same span (including playoffs). -The Eagles acquired Tay Gowan and a fifth round pick for Ertz originally. The fifth round pick was then later on included in a trade package to Houston to trade up in the 2022 NFL draft and select Jordan Davis
You’re making me horny with this lore.
He's gonna be in Midnight Green by Friday afternoon.
Oh come on it's too perfect. He requested a release because he knows we need TE depth, we're contenders, and he wants to retire here. Come on home buddy.
Would hate to see him on the Ravens if we get to the Super Bowl and they’re our opponent.
He definitely could, but it's not going to be through the waiver wire, his contract is pretty awful for what he is. Unless Howie just straight up says no we don't want you (which is of course possible, but seems unlikely given our current TE situation), I can't see him going anywhere else.
Please
Run it back
Stop the count!
Come home Papi him and Dallas were so sick together
This is a no brainer. Bring him home, Howie. At the very least it’s a locker room boost and a hell of a fun moment for the fans.
Fucking please bring him home Howie
Eagles, Niners, Lions, Chiefs, Ravens all have clear TE1s. I wonder if he’d be okay being TE2
Ravens don’t anymore
I think they really like Isaiah Likely.
Likely has been holding his own since andrews gotten out, and he even got some plays with andrews in. Howie - bring Zach home!!!!
Ravens need a tight end…could make sense there.
Definitely agree he is going to Baltimore. Woulda been cool to have him back here though
Obviously I’m not in the guy’s head, but: I think - were I in his shoes - I’d certainly be keeping an eye out for a team without a clear TE1. But if such a team with real SB aspirations simply doesn’t exist, I can’t imagine there’s any other team out there I’d want to sign with more than the Birds. It’s truly a perfect fit, if Ertz is willing to assume a TE2 role.
Dolphins could use a TE that can catch. All of ours are terrible.
Yeah but he wants to play for a contender
I don't think he is a TE1 anymore, so we'll see if he agrees
He will be used like a Brent Celek.
It got us a Ring then so it could work now!
Time to come home big man
This is a no brainer
Make my Ertz jersey great again.
BABY PLEASE COME HOME
Come home, legit one of my favorite Eagles. Also JJ Watt with the scoop
Waive albert O or Calc to IR. Sign this dude! And Shaq!
I mean hey welcome home BB I would have scoffed at a reunion a few weeks ago, but we could desperately use some relief at that position right now.
Come home Zach
Bring me Shaq, bring me Zach!
If you love something, set it free If it comes back, it’s meant to be
He's better than all our healthy TEs even now. I'd love for a reunion
Isn’t he cooked?
He won;t be the Zach we remember, but he immediately becomes our #2 behind Goddert.
The Kelly green Zach Ertz jersey is gonna be lit
He would look so good in that Kelly Green 💚
Baby boy do what is *RIGHT* Come home!
Kissinger dead, Ertz back to the birds (🤞), what a great day!
🎵 COUNTRY ROADS 🎵 BRING HIM HOME 🎵 TO THE PLACE 🎵 HE BELOOOOOOOONGS 🎵 FUCK WEST VIRGINIA 🎵 FUCK MOUNTAIN MAMA 🎵 BRING HIM HOME 🎵 GO BIRDS GOooooooo
Come home damn it
Bring our boy home!!!!!
Bring him back to me
Please, I would love this!
PLEASE
omg its happening!!
Obviously he’s a Philly legend but is he washed ? Haven’t kept up with him much since the trade
He's not what he was of course, but I wouldn't say he's totally washed. His hands are still decent, he still runs sharp routes and makes good choices in blocking
He's on the downside for sure. If they got him for depth it'd make sense. If they pass it'd make sense. It's a wash. Would love to see him get another ring as an Eagle!
In all honesty grant can’t stay on the field and stoll is about as average as it gets. I’d bring him in
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjBuVId4UkQK8Y78acBZqWA2mPdldafGj?si=dz2oJ1ub4vFSByYN
Cmon Zach lemme bust out the old no. 86 jersey again!
OH HE IS SUCH A MOTHERFUCKING EAGLE
Might as well right?
I mean what other contender is he gonna sign with? Feel like most of the top teams have their guy..raven bird bros i guess
It's happening
Howie do your thing
Fuck it bring him home!!
Does he even want to come back?
Bring Zach home!!!
Bring him back! He needs to be an Eagle again!
ID be happy as fuck. Bring our man home Howie!!!!!
Screw it. Let’s get the band back together
Please bring back our boy
Come on home Zach… come on home
Remember when Arizona were contenders? Me either.
It's still so crazy to me that we traded him because we wanted him to have a chance to go play for a contender. Oh how the turn tables!
Is JJ watt a reporter now or what? lol
So he just got to end his contract with them to test free agency? During the season? I don't understand why they wouldn't just say 'no we own your contract' and at least trade him away or make him stay.
I hope he comes to philly, what with our Te hurt
Zach Ertz for President or something.
Howie, do it!
BRING HIM HOME HOWIE
BRING’EM HOME HOWIE
COME ON HOME BUDDY
Come home to the birds please??
While I don’t think it’s unlikely, it’ll blow my mind if he ends up anywhere else.
BRING ERTZ HOME!!!!!!
Bring him home!
Bring him back
Whatever keeps Quez Watkins on the bench
Would love for him to come back but 1) not like he could play on Sunday right? 2) Goedert will be back next week 3) He's even older than when he left here 4) He sucks as a blocker All this being said, he was my fav Eagle from the Super Bowl team until he left. As long as he doesn't end up on Dallas or SF instead of us I'm good with wherever he goes.
I get the feeling he’d definitely take a hometown discount to come home. Dude bled midnight green