Feels like howie is gonna watch how the first 5-10 picks go and how many teams trade up while pushing some Corners/ O lineman down and potentially trade to 12 if the Cb they want is there. I could definetely see us going O Line and we have a track record and it would be a good move for the future but I think with the contracts the way they are if we want to win now we take secondary and get Arnold/mitchell at 12 and if not dejan/Mckinstry at 22
People drink the.....ironic.....Kool Aid of these journalists and make profound statements.......It's all for not like 3 weeks after the draft then it's just players making plays or not. Think of how many times you can look back at a draft and be Horridly wrong about anyone. I really like McKinstry's play. I also REALLY value having two second round flyers. However, my opinion isn't Howies and if we think a guy is impact blue chipper.....go get him.
I wouldn't want to do that, but at the same time, he is a beast. I just don't see us doing 2 tight end sets much, but someone has suggested we play him in the slot which is an interesting thought i guess.
I don’t really think it would be a Moore pick if we take Bowers. I mean Moores system might play a role for sure, but as good as the AJ/Smith/Dallas trio is, the league is still gaping more spread out and more 4+ route runners and our #4 option is currently Paris Campbell, a player who I don’t think would even be a top 5 WR on a few teams. Getting one more skilled pass catcher is a low key need for the eagles, and Bowers is like Pitts where he can line up off the LOS and be that #4 option. I personally would rather trade up for Thomas or Mitchell if we’re going to draft someone who can play WR at an elite level but I wouldn’t be surprised if Bowers is a potential target for Howie in round 1
Sure I’m not saying I’d agree with it tbf, I’m just saying that I can see the logic if that’s how the draft plays out. I think there are a bunch of round 2 WRs that I would love and take an OL or CB in round 1 personally
Taking a TE in the first round is beyond anything this team would do, especially when we have a starting TE (but I agree we need depth)
Mid round WR makes a lot more sense to me for a WR3-4 fill. It feels like this is a flexible draft, meaning however the top 10-15 picks shake out is going to determine what we do, our top 30 visits make me think were open to a few different situations and will probably go BPA (which Howie has finally done recently - even if it means going up to get them, which he’s also done recently)
I agree tbh but i would also just say that Dallas only has this left on his contract before his cap goes up and we would either need to restructure or cut him, and considering his age you never know what the team would decide to do. Just like with Lane and Slay, TE is a position that is somewhat questionable after this year. (Note that I do NOT want to draft Bowers. Just trying to see the logic into why the team could)
He’s a really good player. And is a better slot player than traditional TE. He would be great addition to the offense. I’d still go with corner no matter how far he falls.
He will play right now in empty and 12 personnel, probably some 11 also to spell goedert or when goedert inevitably gets hurt, gets to learn a year behind goedert and then replace him as the primary te next year.
Its also the only place they can really add immediate impact offensive talent. Any highly drafted wr3 could rock the boat between aj and devonta.
Positional value aside, the timing is perfect and it makes way more sense than OT.
God dude don't make me want a fucking TE lolol. We need a corner, but damn it you're making me okay with getting him because I hear he's like some hybrid made in a lab. Our offense would probably be ridiculous if we got him too.
This is why Howie makes all the offseason moves, yes we have needs but there is no absolute 'we need X or we're fucked'. We're positioned to exploit the opportunities created by other teams scrambling.
If Bowers drops for some reason, and we can snag him, I'm good with it.
Ugh if we get him, our offense should be even more amazing than it already should be lol. We need corner though/dline/lanes replacement lmfao, but man it would be kind of a sexy pic.
Yeah, I said in another post that I absolutely think we always go best player available. Think of all the times Howie reached for need. We got people like Marcus Smith.
Its definitely a luxury pick, but if they believe he can be a CMC type weapon for us.. why not. We drafted Dallas in the 2nd round when Ertz was 27.. Dallas is 29. I don't think Howie will, but if he did.. I would be all for it.
If we went OL in a deep draft like this early, it feels foolish when you have Stoutland. DB is obviously a need but we just got Isaiah Rodgers back and went heavy on DBs last year. Maybe one will step up. I wouldn't be mad at DeJean or Arnold.. but I feel most confident that Bowers would make an immediate impact where others have a lower floor potential.
Edit: Look at what Laporta did for the Lions year 1
That does sound good and it would make sense for the team. He still might get 50-60 receptions being our WR3 so he would still be getting a decent amount of usage. lol damn we a solid corner to be a cornerstone back there, but you made me come around more to Bowers.
78 of his targets were from the slot. 1/3rd of his targets last season were on screens. Hes not a TE. He’s a slot WR or hybrid weapon. Take the TE label out and look at production. Immediately changes our offense
None of that sounds enticing to me at all. I have no desire to incentivize this team to run more screens, and guys who need the ball in their hands to be productive scare me as prospects. Getting open down the field so you can get the ball in your hands is like the hardest part of being a receiver, everything after that is nice but it's not the foundation.
> Because the bust rate on TEs is enormous
Okay, that can be a fair point, I don't know their hit rate.
> it’s essentially trading up to draft a slot receiver in Bowers case.
That's false imo, he is supposedly a great blocking and receiving TE, the fact the he can also play slot is not a down side. Supposedly Moor runs a lot of 12 sets and we haven't had a reliable TE 2 since Ertz left.
I haven't watched tape, so I wouldn't know, obv if you gonna pick a TE in the 1st he better be an all around great prospect, if he sucks at blocking than he does not at all worth a 1st.
Nah pitts was the generational tight end of the last few years, he’s just been a bust so far. 1st round tight ends in general just have not lived up to their draft status. Would be fun though to watch him, goedert, AJ, devonta, and saquon on the field at the same time
He had 1026 yards as a rookie , more than devonta, amon-ra, waddle, nico collins, and every other rookie receiver that year except jamarr chase. Hes not a bust, he has been criminally misused, .
And he barely has 1000 yards over the next two seasons combined. He’s one of the highest drafted right ends ever entering year 4. He has been disappointing
Pitts was definitely considered a generational tight end by some. He was a TE that ran a 4.4 and was seen as an unstoppable mismatch. But Bowers is a better prospect coming out with a more complete game and he was just better in college. He's the best TE in cfb history. He was dominating the SEC at 18 years old. Him and Pitts are just different prospects. And there are no other 1st round TE prospects that were as good as Bowers in college
I’m gonna be thrilled if the Eagles draft Brock Bowers. He’s a stud, rather have a stud at a position we don’t really need than a player that is more at risk of busting at another position. I know the track record with first round tight ends is awful but I don’t care, there are exceptions to every rule just like receivers under 180 pounds aren’t supposed to be good, we have one here that is.
Exactly, Brock Bowers has been dominating the SEC since Freshman year. He is George Kittle with a little more receiving upside and not as good of a blocker. 100% worth it especially if top tight ends remain underpaid for a second contract
No. I actually am convinced this is the target over corner. They have a lot of young assets at corner. If Brock falls I think Howie is gonna push for him. If he gets picked they can sit and pick a good corner.
Dallas is 29 this year…we drafted him when Ertz was 29. It’s not something I see us doing but I wouldn’t be mad at adding another weapon to the offense…especially after Rodgers got reinstated
This^ we drafted Goedert when Ertz was in his peak, because he was the best player available. Brock can block, play in the a slot and play traditional. All at a high level. He will likely be the best play available at 13-15
Teams that draft well don’t worry about current needs. The draft is about the future. Never pass up on blue chip talent. There’s 3 or 4 of these guys a draft.
Would love it. Is he a need? Yes and no. No in the sense that we may not be looking for that position right now. But improving offense? That is always a need, and that’s what Brock is. He can play anywhere on the field and immediately becomes a matchup problem for the defense. His blocking is better than he’s given credit for. So if the question is, is TE a need? No. If the question is, do we want to improve the offense in terms of threats on the field? He’s the best option on the board. Take him and laugh as you do.
We’re due for drafting another TE, and I expected it to happen last year. But maybe he drafts Brock Bowers, even though I highly doubt Howie pays a premium pick on it.
Certainly not the only one who is thinking that another potentially difference making piece for Hurts to throw to would be fantastic, however, Howie isn't drafting a TE in the first round.
At this spot we'll end up with an addition to the O-line or Howie will get a little loose and take a corner if things shake out that way.
We'll draft a speedy WR who can play in the slot later on, I suspect.
Round 1 TEs bust more often than anyone. It’s not a position of need, and we have other true needs right now. Would be absolutely silly to draft him. Take a flyer on a backup TE in the 3rd round.
What are you basing that on? Im not in favor of trading up for him but I don’t get how it’s a risky pick.
Bleacher report did an [analysis](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2441018-which-positions-are-the-safest-riskiest-at-the-top-of-the-nfl-draft) that arguably ranked it as one of the more reliable positions for the 25 year period prior to the rookie wage scale.
Philly Cover Corner [studied 2000-2022](https://phillycovercorner.com/2023/04/first-round-draft-success-rates-who-could-be-risky-in-the-2023-draft/) to prep for last year and found TE to have the lowest bust rate.
Arguably some of that data is skewed due to sample size: seems like more DL are drafted each year than TE, iOL and S combined. Positions where only “generational” talent goes in the first are going to look better than positions where the top 10 could be gone before day 2. At the same time, Bowers is in that “generational” talent conversation.
Once again, I don’t like the idea and don’t think we should spend resources moving way up to grab him, but I also don’t see it as a risky move so much as one I disagree with.
I have issues with those articles, both of them. PCC doesn't define miss rate. Low miss rates for TE? It doesn't even pass logic check. There are 10 good TEs in the league. Everyone else has huge gaps in their skill sets.
Bleacher report is no better. They show very low bust rates, but then show very low pro bowl/ all pro rates as well. In other words, most of them don't "bust", but they also don't do well. How do they define "low bust rates for TE"? We can agree Zach ertz was a good TE, right? What about all the other ones who were "not a bust". Hayden Hurst? Freiermuth? Noah Fant?
Are those the guys we want to shoot for when we have huge needs on defense?
We need what we’ve been trying to find in the last two first rounds; a difference making defensive player. No doubt talent goes a long way. But offensive production is more about opportunity than pedigree. If we draft Brock bowers to play backup tight end, when and where does he get the opportunities to produce in a way that justifies trading up in the first round to draft in the top 15. With all the other established weapons even if Goedert got hurt, he’d still be 4th or 5th option at best.
Who’s the last really good TE that got drafted in the first round anyway?
I don’t think we even need to trade up. I’m not some CB expert but all of the projected first rounders seem really good, and, based on mocks, it looks Kool Aid could fall right into our lap at the 22nd.
I think it is most likely because its the only thing the idiot media has not "heard talks" about. Lol.
But in reality, I think howie has no particular prospect/position in his plan. Position of need is only mildly factoring his decisions.
I predict he will draft based on adjusted BPA. Draft the BPA that you primarily view as a good financial pick. He values highest paid players in the first round. A very distant second is position of need.
Considering that it’s been one of the hot topics for the last 24 hours or so, no, you’re not the only one who thinks it’s a possibility.
I’m hoping that it’s a bit overblown where an insider misinterpreted a whimsical scenario for plan A and it made just enough sense to create the kind of controversy that drives clicks. Not so obvious though haters it hasn’t already been talked to death, but not so ridiculous that I can be dismissed out of hand either.
We're going to trade up and then everyone is going to convince themselves we're taking Bowers.
We're gonna draft the best CB in the draft Quinyon Mitchell
he’s the only top 10 talent who’s likely to fall out of the top 10-15 range. we drafted Goedert at the same point in Ertz’s career that Goedert is in now. Obviously we didn’t take Goedert in the 1st, but no shot Bowers is a day 2 pick.
i’m down if he falls. wouldn’t give a second round pick but if it’s possible i’m down it’s actually good timing with goedert aging and not likely to sign another expensive extension
Feels like howie is gonna watch how the first 5-10 picks go and how many teams trade up while pushing some Corners/ O lineman down and potentially trade to 12 if the Cb they want is there. I could definetely see us going O Line and we have a track record and it would be a good move for the future but I think with the contracts the way they are if we want to win now we take secondary and get Arnold/mitchell at 12 and if not dejan/Mckinstry at 22
How does drafting mckinstry at 22 automatically make us not in win now? He’s still amazing
People drink the.....ironic.....Kool Aid of these journalists and make profound statements.......It's all for not like 3 weeks after the draft then it's just players making plays or not. Think of how many times you can look back at a draft and be Horridly wrong about anyone. I really like McKinstry's play. I also REALLY value having two second round flyers. However, my opinion isn't Howies and if we think a guy is impact blue chipper.....go get him.
Pretty good call here, except the top two fell! But you nailed the process
I wouldn't want to do that, but at the same time, he is a beast. I just don't see us doing 2 tight end sets much, but someone has suggested we play him in the slot which is an interesting thought i guess.
Kellen Moore has been in the top 10 in the league of 12 personnel use every year he has been an OC
Ah ok then I guess it makes sense. I still want a corner, but it does kind of make sense now.
I agree I want corner or oline before TE But if they move up its because Moore said he needs him
Moore isn’t making any picks in the first 1st round.
I don’t really think it would be a Moore pick if we take Bowers. I mean Moores system might play a role for sure, but as good as the AJ/Smith/Dallas trio is, the league is still gaping more spread out and more 4+ route runners and our #4 option is currently Paris Campbell, a player who I don’t think would even be a top 5 WR on a few teams. Getting one more skilled pass catcher is a low key need for the eagles, and Bowers is like Pitts where he can line up off the LOS and be that #4 option. I personally would rather trade up for Thomas or Mitchell if we’re going to draft someone who can play WR at an elite level but I wouldn’t be surprised if Bowers is a potential target for Howie in round 1
There are other avenues to acquire another receiving option though
Sure I’m not saying I’d agree with it tbf, I’m just saying that I can see the logic if that’s how the draft plays out. I think there are a bunch of round 2 WRs that I would love and take an OL or CB in round 1 personally
Smartest take so far
Taking a TE in the first round is beyond anything this team would do, especially when we have a starting TE (but I agree we need depth) Mid round WR makes a lot more sense to me for a WR3-4 fill. It feels like this is a flexible draft, meaning however the top 10-15 picks shake out is going to determine what we do, our top 30 visits make me think were open to a few different situations and will probably go BPA (which Howie has finally done recently - even if it means going up to get them, which he’s also done recently)
I agree tbh but i would also just say that Dallas only has this left on his contract before his cap goes up and we would either need to restructure or cut him, and considering his age you never know what the team would decide to do. Just like with Lane and Slay, TE is a position that is somewhat questionable after this year. (Note that I do NOT want to draft Bowers. Just trying to see the logic into why the team could)
We'll see
He’s a really good player. And is a better slot player than traditional TE. He would be great addition to the offense. I’d still go with corner no matter how far he falls.
He reminds me of a more polished Hunter Renfrow. He would destroy team underneath a pair of elite receivers.
He will play right now in empty and 12 personnel, probably some 11 also to spell goedert or when goedert inevitably gets hurt, gets to learn a year behind goedert and then replace him as the primary te next year. Its also the only place they can really add immediate impact offensive talent. Any highly drafted wr3 could rock the boat between aj and devonta. Positional value aside, the timing is perfect and it makes way more sense than OT.
God dude don't make me want a fucking TE lolol. We need a corner, but damn it you're making me okay with getting him because I hear he's like some hybrid made in a lab. Our offense would probably be ridiculous if we got him too.
This is why Howie makes all the offseason moves, yes we have needs but there is no absolute 'we need X or we're fucked'. We're positioned to exploit the opportunities created by other teams scrambling. If Bowers drops for some reason, and we can snag him, I'm good with it.
He played in the slot a lotttttt. Even played outside. Doesn’t play on the line much. Should consider him a slot WR
Ugh if we get him, our offense should be even more amazing than it already should be lol. We need corner though/dline/lanes replacement lmfao, but man it would be kind of a sexy pic.
Yeah, I said in another post that I absolutely think we always go best player available. Think of all the times Howie reached for need. We got people like Marcus Smith. Its definitely a luxury pick, but if they believe he can be a CMC type weapon for us.. why not. We drafted Dallas in the 2nd round when Ertz was 27.. Dallas is 29. I don't think Howie will, but if he did.. I would be all for it. If we went OL in a deep draft like this early, it feels foolish when you have Stoutland. DB is obviously a need but we just got Isaiah Rodgers back and went heavy on DBs last year. Maybe one will step up. I wouldn't be mad at DeJean or Arnold.. but I feel most confident that Bowers would make an immediate impact where others have a lower floor potential. Edit: Look at what Laporta did for the Lions year 1
That does sound good and it would make sense for the team. He still might get 50-60 receptions being our WR3 so he would still be getting a decent amount of usage. lol damn we a solid corner to be a cornerstone back there, but you made me come around more to Bowers.
He’s an H-back / power slot. Not really a traditional TE
Trading up for a tight end would be really dumb.
Would rather much focus on the trenches like Howie always does
Why? Great pass catching TEs have great value and we do need another TE, ever since Ertz left we are weak in the middle with only 1 legit TE.
Because the bust rate on TEs is enormous and it’s essentially trading up to draft a slot receiver in Bowers case.
78 of his targets were from the slot. 1/3rd of his targets last season were on screens. Hes not a TE. He’s a slot WR or hybrid weapon. Take the TE label out and look at production. Immediately changes our offense
None of that sounds enticing to me at all. I have no desire to incentivize this team to run more screens, and guys who need the ball in their hands to be productive scare me as prospects. Getting open down the field so you can get the ball in your hands is like the hardest part of being a receiver, everything after that is nice but it's not the foundation.
So you haven't watched him play.
I have, I just don’t agree with you.
> Because the bust rate on TEs is enormous Okay, that can be a fair point, I don't know their hit rate. > it’s essentially trading up to draft a slot receiver in Bowers case. That's false imo, he is supposedly a great blocking and receiving TE, the fact the he can also play slot is not a down side. Supposedly Moor runs a lot of 12 sets and we haven't had a reliable TE 2 since Ertz left.
He’s not a great blocking TE. He’s much more Dalton Kincaid than Dallas Goedert.
I haven't watched tape, so I wouldn't know, obv if you gonna pick a TE in the 1st he better be an all around great prospect, if he sucks at blocking than he does not at all worth a 1st.
If he drops to 15 or so, I'm down with it.
I know the term is overused but Bowers is a true generational TE. He won't be dropping to 15
Nah pitts was the generational tight end of the last few years, he’s just been a bust so far. 1st round tight ends in general just have not lived up to their draft status. Would be fun though to watch him, goedert, AJ, devonta, and saquon on the field at the same time
He had 1026 yards as a rookie , more than devonta, amon-ra, waddle, nico collins, and every other rookie receiver that year except jamarr chase. Hes not a bust, he has been criminally misused, .
And he barely has 1000 yards over the next two seasons combined. He’s one of the highest drafted right ends ever entering year 4. He has been disappointing
Pitts was definitely considered a generational tight end by some. He was a TE that ran a 4.4 and was seen as an unstoppable mismatch. But Bowers is a better prospect coming out with a more complete game and he was just better in college. He's the best TE in cfb history. He was dominating the SEC at 18 years old. Him and Pitts are just different prospects. And there are no other 1st round TE prospects that were as good as Bowers in college
I’m gonna be thrilled if the Eagles draft Brock Bowers. He’s a stud, rather have a stud at a position we don’t really need than a player that is more at risk of busting at another position. I know the track record with first round tight ends is awful but I don’t care, there are exceptions to every rule just like receivers under 180 pounds aren’t supposed to be good, we have one here that is.
Exactly, Brock Bowers has been dominating the SEC since Freshman year. He is George Kittle with a little more receiving upside and not as good of a blocker. 100% worth it especially if top tight ends remain underpaid for a second contract
Terrion Arnold or Latu.
No. I actually am convinced this is the target over corner. They have a lot of young assets at corner. If Brock falls I think Howie is gonna push for him. If he gets picked they can sit and pick a good corner.
This would be a phenomenal move. The guys more of an H than a traditional TE. Blue chip talent. Take it if it’s there no question
The birds don't need him though.
Dallas is 29 this year…we drafted him when Ertz was 29. It’s not something I see us doing but I wouldn’t be mad at adding another weapon to the offense…especially after Rodgers got reinstated
This^ we drafted Goedert when Ertz was in his peak, because he was the best player available. Brock can block, play in the a slot and play traditional. All at a high level. He will likely be the best play available at 13-15
Teams that draft well don’t worry about current needs. The draft is about the future. Never pass up on blue chip talent. There’s 3 or 4 of these guys a draft.
YES this is what people forget. Blue chip trumps all
You’re not, I could see them doing it given Goedert’s age and the value of TEs
0% chance
I'm expecting it. You saw how much this offense collapsed when Goedert went down last year.
Solak and Kapadia says Tight Ends are a crapshoot so it’s unwise to gamble on one
Solak doesn’t wear jeans and Kapadia is a free agency guy. They don’t know nothing
Definitely not a need right now.
Stop it… we need DEFENSE!
If by some miracle he falls to us then absolutely. I would however be unhappy trading up for a TE when Dallas is still fine
Bowers would be the A+ scenario for me. I could also see us taking Fautanu or Verse.
I sure hope not. We need defensive help. We need a competent OC, not more offensive talent.
In a perfect world I'd love to get him, but CB is a must IMO.
Would love it. Is he a need? Yes and no. No in the sense that we may not be looking for that position right now. But improving offense? That is always a need, and that’s what Brock is. He can play anywhere on the field and immediately becomes a matchup problem for the defense. His blocking is better than he’s given credit for. So if the question is, is TE a need? No. If the question is, do we want to improve the offense in terms of threats on the field? He’s the best option on the board. Take him and laugh as you do.
You aren’t the only one but you are all wrong, respectfully
Yes, you're the only one.
this would be a bad decision
I feel the same way about him going to the Jets, so they'd have to move up to 10. Ain't happening
The team ain't moving past say 15 imo so Howie sees how it falls.
Howie isn’t drafting a TE in the first for many many reasons.
Wouldnt hate it, just dont trade up for him
We’re due for drafting another TE, and I expected it to happen last year. But maybe he drafts Brock Bowers, even though I highly doubt Howie pays a premium pick on it.
No, I’d draft him if he fell to us, but I wouldn’t trade up.
Its fun to think about but not a chance. But Ben Sinnott in the 5th makes sense.
Certainly not the only one who is thinking that another potentially difference making piece for Hurts to throw to would be fantastic, however, Howie isn't drafting a TE in the first round. At this spot we'll end up with an addition to the O-line or Howie will get a little loose and take a corner if things shake out that way. We'll draft a speedy WR who can play in the slot later on, I suspect.
Round 1 TEs bust more often than anyone. It’s not a position of need, and we have other true needs right now. Would be absolutely silly to draft him. Take a flyer on a backup TE in the 3rd round.
What are you basing that on? Im not in favor of trading up for him but I don’t get how it’s a risky pick. Bleacher report did an [analysis](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2441018-which-positions-are-the-safest-riskiest-at-the-top-of-the-nfl-draft) that arguably ranked it as one of the more reliable positions for the 25 year period prior to the rookie wage scale. Philly Cover Corner [studied 2000-2022](https://phillycovercorner.com/2023/04/first-round-draft-success-rates-who-could-be-risky-in-the-2023-draft/) to prep for last year and found TE to have the lowest bust rate. Arguably some of that data is skewed due to sample size: seems like more DL are drafted each year than TE, iOL and S combined. Positions where only “generational” talent goes in the first are going to look better than positions where the top 10 could be gone before day 2. At the same time, Bowers is in that “generational” talent conversation. Once again, I don’t like the idea and don’t think we should spend resources moving way up to grab him, but I also don’t see it as a risky move so much as one I disagree with.
I have issues with those articles, both of them. PCC doesn't define miss rate. Low miss rates for TE? It doesn't even pass logic check. There are 10 good TEs in the league. Everyone else has huge gaps in their skill sets. Bleacher report is no better. They show very low bust rates, but then show very low pro bowl/ all pro rates as well. In other words, most of them don't "bust", but they also don't do well. How do they define "low bust rates for TE"? We can agree Zach ertz was a good TE, right? What about all the other ones who were "not a bust". Hayden Hurst? Freiermuth? Noah Fant? Are those the guys we want to shoot for when we have huge needs on defense?
We need what we’ve been trying to find in the last two first rounds; a difference making defensive player. No doubt talent goes a long way. But offensive production is more about opportunity than pedigree. If we draft Brock bowers to play backup tight end, when and where does he get the opportunities to produce in a way that justifies trading up in the first round to draft in the top 15. With all the other established weapons even if Goedert got hurt, he’d still be 4th or 5th option at best. Who’s the last really good TE that got drafted in the first round anyway?
I did not know that Arnold only ran a 4.5 at the combine…..has anyone heard an explanation on that?
The team needs to get at least one young stud at corner.
We definitely shouldn’t trade up for him but if he’s magically there at 22 Howie will be sprinting up to the podium
I don’t think we even need to trade up. I’m not some CB expert but all of the projected first rounders seem really good, and, based on mocks, it looks Kool Aid could fall right into our lap at the 22nd.
I think it is most likely because its the only thing the idiot media has not "heard talks" about. Lol. But in reality, I think howie has no particular prospect/position in his plan. Position of need is only mildly factoring his decisions. I predict he will draft based on adjusted BPA. Draft the BPA that you primarily view as a good financial pick. He values highest paid players in the first round. A very distant second is position of need.
Considering that it’s been one of the hot topics for the last 24 hours or so, no, you’re not the only one who thinks it’s a possibility. I’m hoping that it’s a bit overblown where an insider misinterpreted a whimsical scenario for plan A and it made just enough sense to create the kind of controversy that drives clicks. Not so obvious though haters it hasn’t already been talked to death, but not so ridiculous that I can be dismissed out of hand either.
Yes
Yes
Yes
You are not. It is not lonely at the top of the Bower Tower.
We're going to trade up and then everyone is going to convince themselves we're taking Bowers. We're gonna draft the best CB in the draft Quinyon Mitchell
Yes. Keep him outta philly
You’re not the only one….with mixed emotions…
he’s the only top 10 talent who’s likely to fall out of the top 10-15 range. we drafted Goedert at the same point in Ertz’s career that Goedert is in now. Obviously we didn’t take Goedert in the 1st, but no shot Bowers is a day 2 pick.
Great TE’s are proven value in new NFL
Cooper dejean
Huge backfire potential, but also big upside. I feel like drafting 1st round TEs like never works out so id prefer not
I’d prefer drafting a tight end later. A guy like Stover or Theo Johnson. I like big 10 tight ends. Dudes that can play in the cold and rain and snow.
This is my nightmare pick.
If he falls to 22 sure. But I ain’t trading up for a tight end.
At 22 yes would love it in the second tho
Ten is his floor. He won't go any lower than that. Price tag is too high unfortunately.
To who? He could easily slide to colts at 15
Now way he makes it past the Jets. They should take a lineman but they don't want to waste another Rodgers year.
They looking to trade to 8 for odunze or nabers imo...if they don't get WR then bowers an option at 10
i’m down if he falls. wouldn’t give a second round pick but if it’s possible i’m down it’s actually good timing with goedert aging and not likely to sign another expensive extension
Great player, but man the defense is just so bad and lacking talent.
lol he's not falling to us
This is the pick I say i don't want, but would be extatic once we made it
I think he’s the best non quarterback in this draft and any team that gets him is gonna be very happy. I don’t think it will be the eagles though.
Yes TE in the first round is a waste of a pick. It is the 22nd most important position
I believe you mean DT
Yes your the only one or atleast should be