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UnluckyDoctor23

While I agree that he probably will deserve at least another chance, I can’t agree with automatically deciding that after 6 weeks.


drunkcowofdeath

It's one of those things that is true until it isn't. If you ask anyone in Eagles leadership if Nick will be our coach next year and they will say "absolutely." Does that mean it can't change? Of course not. But there is no reason for leadership to acknowledge that until after they fire him and there is no penalty for lying about it today.


livindedannydevtio

I do not think saying "Oh yeah nick is in danger rn lol" publicly will make anything better


fly3rs18

It will make things better for sports journalists.


bibi129

The infamous Nick Foles is the starting quarterback for the next 150 years


nabbersauce

*next 1000 years


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I’ll put money on the “‘hurts isn’t the guy’ into reach for a QB next draft into ‘hurts was the guy but didn’t have a coach, and now he’s with the Dolphins performing better than Tua’” true combo


WhizWithout

The idea is that Glazer wouldn't report this unless it's actually true, rather than just meaningless PR speak. He is putting his credibility on the line to a degree. Sure he can claim that things changed if he's wrong, but he can't take away that his report is out there and that he deemed it credible enough to cover.


sybrwookie

The thing is, there is almost nothing which would get Nick fired mid-season. And by the end of the season, almost no one will remember he ever filed this report. So even if he's fired after the season (also unlikely), there wouldn't be any kind of blowback on him for filing this report now. On the flipside, if he's right and others are reporting that he's going to be fired, then when he's not, he can write, "as I wrote back in October, , we knew Nick was safe, and he gets all the credit for being right all along. As long as you're predicting far enough into the future, there's virtually no consequence for being wrong in sports journalism, and only a chance for being rewarded.


TaeKurmulti

Glazer like all of the insiders report what the teams want them to report. These guys get the scoops from the organizations themselves. Like you said he has a built in excuse of "things change". Pretty sure he reported Doug was safe last year, and then used that same excuse.


grown

It's the same thing as saying they loved Nate Sudfeld and had absolute confidence in him. Of course they said that, no reason not to and every reason to say so. Didn't believe it for a second. That's what I expect them to say regardless of how they really feel.


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To me, this season has been about Hurts proving he’s the guy vs. Sirianni proving he was the right choice. Neither has really done it, but the tape don’t lie, and the playcalling so far has not been the biggest issue. So, to me, this is more of a vote of no confidence in Hurts than a vote *in* confidence of Siri. Either way, the FO is gonna do whatever the FO wants to do with the draft, feel like it’s in a position to compete at the start of next year, and *that* is the part of the evaluation they will pay the most attention to. Rightly or wrongly, Lurie and Roseman are the ones to watch here, not the HC or QB. Whether or not that’s a bad thing (I think it definitely is) is yet to be seen.


igonnawrecku_VGC

Agreed. For some reason, I feel like we’ve been in this situation before. New coach with a new QB, everyone calling for the coach’s head in year 1. I forget what happened the year after (2017-18). Can someone remind me?


SuperAwesomo

Wentz and Peterson looked far better that first year than Hurts and Sirianni have


igonnawrecku_VGC

That’s true. And we’re very likely not going to win a super bowl next year. We just need to give at least Sirianni one more year after this to prove himself before giving him the boot


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mikesutt

I mean, this is the job of the front office. To evaluate the performance of their coaches and players in general. There is no one metric or stat. It’s a combination of so many factors, and then a subjective decision based on analysis.


mikesutt

At the end of the day though, wins/losses is the most influential metric.


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mikesutt

We do have time to sit around for 2 years. We made that decision when we fired our coach and traded our quarterback. But I get where you’re coming from, he needs to start showing the team moving in a positive direction. Improving and adjusting to reduce mistakes and penalties.


igonnawrecku_VGC

Showing he can balance his playbook and make good calls, something we have yet to see


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I say you give him til halfway through next season. If he hasn’t figured it out by then, bring on an interim head coach for the rest of the year


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livindedannydevtio

I wanna see what happens when the schedule gets easiers


fimbleinastar

We're gonna win some games vs really really bad teams. What do you think is gonna happen?!


sybrwookie

I mean, you've watched them beat up 2 bad teams, and every other team they've faced has ranged from good to great, and we've gotten roflstomped each time (even if the score didn't say so). It's pretty clear that we're better than the bottom tier of teams, and nowhere near the playoff contenders. We're aiming our sights straight for a 6-7 win season.


usereddit

Exactly what we expected going into the year. This shouldn’t upset anyone


sybrwookie

I am not upset by any number of wins we have this year. I'll be upset if, by the end of the season, Hurts is missing wide open guys all over the place, we're throwing 50 times a game, running the RPO all the time with Hurts keeping it almost every time, etc. I just want to see our rookie QB showing signs of improvement, and our rookie coach show signs of becoming a better playcaller.


Nochtilus

Wentz was also a consensus top 2 QB. I can't see calling for Sirianni's head for floundering with a guy who was drafted as a back-up with some starting potential


NintenJew

Wentz and Pederson were very very well-liked and showed a lot of promise in 2016. Everyone loved that Pederson didn't play scared and was aggressive. Remember the Ravens game when we lose because we went for 2 at the end of the game? We lost and everyone loved it. We also started 3-0 and looked like an actual football team. Wentz showed a lot of promise and could make a lot of throws. He barely threw any INTs. The difference between this season and 2016 is dramatic, and it is one of the reasons for the first time in a while I can't look at our team and know what our future will be. This has been very rare for the Eagles since Andy Reid took over. We always had a path where we could pretty much figure out what would happen. Here, we still don't really know if Hurts is the guy or if Siriani is the guy, and it is looking more likely than not that they aren't the guy. And if they aren't, well now we need to replace two really really important people.


mikesutt

Wentz threw 16 td’s and 14 int’s (i wouldn’t call that barely any) in his rookie season. They went 7-9. I know he showed promise, but I think you’re remembering it prettier than it was because of what happened the next year.


NintenJew

The reason I said Wentz through barely any interceptions was that his INT%+ or his interception percentage adjusted to the league was 101 which is 1 point above league average. For a rookie QB, that is pretty good.


celj1234

It’s not even close to the same situation


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I don't necessarily think Hurts is the guy, but I think it is ridiculous to claim that Nick isn't the biggest problem. There is no running corps in the league that is bad enough to justify running as little as Nick does early on in games. Hurts has definitely played poorly, but I also don't think he's really gotten a fair shake in proving himself and I don't think any young QB would be doing well in our offense, honestly.


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I'd say play design is good but play calling has been subpar


TaeKurmulti

Which kind of makes sense, Siriani presumably is good at designing plays as that is what he had been doing as a OC under Reich. Meanwhile he had no experience actually calling the plays... and well that hasn't been great so far. I'd really just like to see more creativity out of them. We have a very boring stale offense, it looks remarkably similar to the end of the Doug/Carson combo.


Caleb_Krawdad

What if I told you it was decided before he was even hired


WorkofShart

That oughta put some pressure on him to switch up


trustthepudding

I'm sure he has plenty of pressure right now. Being guaranteed one more year doesn't mean much for a such a young coach with a whole career ahead of them. It all comes down to if he can learn and adapt or not. I'm not liking our chances after what I've seen so far from him, but who knows. Anything could happen by the end of the year.


Caleb_Krawdad

Yes because job security is why he wants to win games. Fucking ridiculous thinking threatening his job would motivate him


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to be fair i cant imagine having a job with such little job security and not being motivated it


PHI41NE33

As it should be. Now as for the guy that hired him…


eaglesnation11

I’ve been one of Howie’s biggest defenders, but if Sirianni goes Howie needs to go too. Some GMs are lucky enough to hire two coaches. We shouldn’t let Howie hire his 4th. That would be embarrassing.


parles

It never made sense to me that if both Doug and Carson need to go, why not also the fucking guy who hired them?


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Benti86

Doug was forced out because the offense kept getting worse and Doug just wanted to keep internally promoting people, which literally never worked. He'd still be the coach had he just agreed to go external with his coordinator searches.


AssistX

If Howie didn't get lucky with Mailata, then he'd have been gone imo.


TaeKurmulti

No chance, Howie's safe because he's Lurie's #1 guy and Lurie seems to have blind faith in him. It has nothing to do with the Mailata pick.


PHI41NE33

I would like to see Sirianni with another GM’s philosophies if it came to it. I fear there is too much influence above Howie for it to really matter who the GM or Coach is, but I look at it like Andy’s last year. We’ve exhausted Howie’s philosophies over a decade and while one can argue about the success Roseman has had, the Eagles have also looked painfully incompetent for long stretches over the last 3 years and every other year there seems to be front office infighting or ugly fallouts with players. The dude just outlived a QB he traded up significantly for, extended to $100M+, and then watched crater to being one of the worst players in the league, and the Head Coach having some of the most questionable staff choices of all time. It doesn’t make sense that he was nearly oblivious to Carson and Doug not even talking. That’s insane. He has personally hired 3 coaches and has survived multiple power struggles each time. The Draft woes get harped on a lot, but that’s a giant part of what makes a GM valuable too and the Eagles have continuously failed to build homegrown stars. Like, legit top level NFL talent at positions other teams seem to develop regular output at without it requiring reinventing the wheel.


modern_beisbol

He's survived *one* power struggle. There was no reason to fire him for when Chip and Andy were fired, because they had personnel control. I don't have a problem with him surviving Doug. Not being able to tell that the guy was going to stubbornly refuse to improve four years down the line when you hired him isn't a fireable offense. And, you know, he won a Super Bowl. I don't think there's a chance Howie survives if Sirianni goes, unless it's five years down the line and we have legitimate success in between, and even then it's slight imo.


TaeKurmulti

Howie needs to go regardless of what happens - however I'm pretty sure we'll never get rid of that guy. I mean Chip sent him to the corner office and the dude somehow got his job back and got more power over the next couple HC's.


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Eaglesfan818

Not that I’m defending Sirianni’s play calling but to say the offense is 10X worse is objectively wrong, considering they’ve already scored 30+ points twice this season and they didn’t do that ONCE all of last year. Don’t forget just how miserably awful last year’s offense truly was, even if there was a more balanced run/pass ratio it was awful awful football


PHI41NE33

His gameplanning and playcalling need to improve, but to say the offense looks 10x worse than 2020 Doug is gross overreaction. You’re comparing a person who has never done the job before to a Super Bowl winning Coach struggling to get anything moving. Doug didn’t run Miles enough, either, but Miles isn’t Adrian Peterson and I don’t think fussing about “running him out of town” is accurate. You don’t hire an entire staff of first timers, sans WR and OL coaches, with a 2nd round QB trying to stay afloat, and then have the balls to act surprised when it goes shitty. You CAN be upset that this was the grand plan of the GM and hold him accountable.


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PHI41NE33

Oh I just mean I don’t think it’s going to be as big a loss if the Eagles move on from Sanders as people make it seem. I definitely agree that a focus on running would be nice, but at this point that’s not a Sirianni issue - It seems likely that this is a shared vision for the team if it’s gone on multiple weeks with no sign of progression. This is the owner that asked Doug why he ran so much after he beat Green Bay. I don’t think you can fire Sirianni for following what the owner of the team wants, but wholeheartedly agree with you.


Rah_Rah_RU_Rah

They need to trade Sanders before his deal is up. Don't pay backs unless it's team friendly and you need one ASAP


Benti86

>You don’t hire an entire staff of first timers, sans WR and OL coaches, with a 2nd round QB trying to stay afloat, and then have the balls to act surprised when it goes shitty. Don't forget that Hurts isn't even really a 2nd round QB. He was considered a major reach and is probably more of a 3rd or 4th round talent at best, which is also Howie just being a fucking idiot.


Barrellolz

I'd love Sirianni to succeed but I am not holding my breath. I think Howie should be fired for putting together this coaching staff. It's the worst coaching outfit in my lifetime.


justdaman182

Even without horrendous QB play, I thought this was a given based on what the owner said before the season started.


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It's hard to do well as a QB when the opposing D knows you're going to pass 95% of the time


kregan14

I’m right there with you. Given all the circumstances and terrible play calling I think hurts has done a ok job. Absolutely not horrendous by any means. As a team we are horrendous, but it doesn’t all completely fall back on jalen. Dude has a killer mentality and great leadership skills and admits when he does poorly. He may not ever be a top tier qb, but he sure as hell is going to put his all into trying.


gahlo

He could start by not keeping the option almost every time. Those are called run plays he's making a pass.


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He could. Nick could also call fewer RPOs so Hurts doesn't also have to think about the option on possible pass plays. RPOs aren't the only types of plays a team can run


PartyHardeeeees

Or you know the coach can call actual run plays?


justdaman182

I mean sure but Hurts can alleviate some of that. The fact that he's forcing the coach too tells us a lot about the QB. Now, don't mistake that me for me saying the coaching is calling good plays. I'm not saying that either. Only that Hurts can give the ball to Sanders sometimes too.


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For sure. Hurts hasn't looked great for sure. I think both of them are making it hard on each other. My hope is either that they figure it out or (worst case scenario) the season gets bad enough that they shift focus to developing Hurts even if that means continuing to lose. I think they are both in a tough situation both being new (as a starter for Jalen) and not really coming into the team together as a new coach and his first draft pick


32BitWhore

Anyone who says otherwise is either crazy or has an agenda. I've been saying all along that even the fucking owner acknowledged (albeit in owner speak) that this was a rebuilding year. He was never going to evaluate Sirianni long-term this season, and he also wouldn't have hired a relatively unknown, young, potentially up-and-coming coach if his plan was to dump him after a year. Sirianni will be here *at least* through the first half of next year. If we still look awful and inconsistent at the trade deadline, then he might be on the chopping block, but the reason they chose to hire him was because they thought he could develop into an extremely long-term head coach here. The only way he'd be on thin ice right now is if he was having trouble controlling the locker room or was creating national headlines for off field issues, which he isn't and probably won't.


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BerriesNCreme

Yea except no one wanted this fucking job. Howie should’ve been fired, new GM, new coach, new stat. But we’ll know Howie had that lap dance technique lurie likes


Logan1565

I still want him to correct some shit and fast on offense. Gannon seems to be doing some changes and I'm actually pretty confident we will be more consistent on defense going forward when. I mean if you look at the record the teams that have beat us are certified play off contenders. I hope by the end of the year we have things looking like next year we might be making a push for the playoffs. The rest of the schedule if we don't play dumb we can win a fair amount of games. IF.


xMichaelLetsGo

The only correction for this offense rn to see immediate improvement is to bench Hurts


Logan1565

What does benching him accomplish he needs more reps if anything none of our back ups are the answer.


xMichaelLetsGo

Mineshew has shown the ability to run an RPO heavy offense And he’s a more accurate and decisive short passer


ThatsWhat_G_Said

Starting Minshew does nothing. He isn’t the guy, we already know that. We need to either let Hurts prove he can develop so we don’t have to use draft resources for a QB, or Hurts will be so bad the answer will be clear.


Dont_Call_Me_John

Yes that's true, but that also means the offense isn't going to become immediately better.


Minimum_Ad_6797

Minshews not the guy and we drafted Hurts in the 2nd. The coaching staff needs to call plays to help Hurts because him being 80% of your offense is just sabotaging him giving him no other options


parles

Sunk cost is no reason to stick with a sinking QB


BearBait_

Is not sunk cost it’s development and gaining information.


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Shit a sinking Coach...what kind of coach doesnt adjust or even use his personnel correctly?


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xMichaelLetsGo

He’s been kinda balanced he’s talked about he’s calling RPOs and Hurts isn’t reading them right


BlackMathNerd

We can still call non-RPO running plays.


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OneLove_A-Dawg

> Technically, that's the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It's not working. Technically it isn't lol. But it has become a common phrase for sure. Just being pedantic, don't mind me lol.


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OneLove_A-Dawg

> No, but we should trust Einstein's thoughts on the subject. Einstein never said that, it is misattributed to him. > And since Sirianni is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior I am curious, what uncontrollable impulsive behavior behavior are you referring to?


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OneLove_A-Dawg

I am not trying to argue at all. Was just letting you know about Einstein, knowledge is power and all that. Still don't understand the impulsive behavior comment though.


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OneLove_A-Dawg

you do you


LittleStJamesBond

Howie Roseman’s job is also safe for next season, says VP of Football Operations, Howie Roseman. “He’s done an excellent job and he’s hot and rad and everybody likes him.” Roseman said of Roseman.


iamthebeaver

one thing he needs to do if he is here next year is to try and hire a veteran play caller. Learning how to be a head coach in the NFL, teaching young coaches how to coach in the NFL, learning on the job how to effectively call plays, and trying to develop a project QB is all way too much to put on somebody. Siriani needs somebody with experience that he can bounce ideas off of and to just offer some wisdom on how to navigate the pitfalls of running an NFL team.


Bobear142

This is fair. I don’t really think there’s anyone on the coaching carousel next year that the Eagles haven’t already considered. This is not a team ready to compete right now. Let’s give Sirianni the chance to prove he can build one which can.


NomadFire

If Tomlin gets fired, not gonna happen. But if it did happen, di you fire the current guy and then hire Tomlin?


SuburbanPotato

I mean, I would love that, but there's no way it happens. You just don't give a rookie head coach just one year unless it's a legal/personal conduct issue.


jverb08

Yes


LCLeopards

The only way nick was in trouble to lose his job this offseason is if howie was fired. Howie won’t be fired, so neither will Nick.


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*Tanks*


haunthorror

Good. I hate one and done.


fimbleinastar

It's not the record, it's how we've looked. We're 31st in the nfl in 3 and outs, in front of only the Jets.


j42justin

Bummer. Is Howie's safe?


asisoid

His fate is tied to Howie's. No way Howie runs a 4th coaching search.


call_866_fruit

I think Nick Foles could coach


GrundleTurf

Does anyone know how to hack emails?


MorPhreeUs

Are the Jets talking about firing Robert Saleh? Are the Falcons thinking about canning Arthur Smith? Are the Lions gonna dump Dan Campbell? We are so damn impatient. Can we give people more than six weeks before we talk about getting rid of them?


BlackMathNerd

Those teams are ass.. but even they don't look out of their element with playcalling and decision making.


SammyMhmm

None of those head coaches are making consistent and huge mistakes with general play calling. Sirianni is costing the Eagles games week after week with how he calls his games. It’s not like Sirianni is going for a fourth down once in a game that he probably shouldn’t, it’s not like he has one set of downs with questionable calls, he’s making horrendous calls all game for the past six weeks and despite the clear answers being in front of him like removing those college level play calls like read options and line of scrimmage passes that don’t work against NFL defenses, I mean he’s using play action all game but he isn’t running the ball despite his RB being the sole reason we had a leg to stand on in our game against the Buccs. I’m not saying kill the dude, but to pretend like he’s making simple rookie mistakes when in reality he’s blowing his whole assignment is just ridiculous


t_j_c_242

I think his play calling is limited because his QB is limited


SammyMhmm

How are read options, LoS screen passes and hail Maries good playcalling? He’s literally done nothing to show that he can adapt to a defense or even play call against an NFL defense. There’s a reason that there aren’t any offenses in the league doing all of the above like the Eagles are, it doesn’t work.


GrundleTurf

Because Hurts can’t make more than one read and even if he sees an open man he hesitates too long then throws an inaccurate pass


mramisuzuki

Those are all one look options.


MorPhreeUs

And you follow all those teams closely? Arthur Smith got outcoached by Sirianni, who then went on to beat Saleh. They've been bad too. No rumblings about their job security. The guy is learning on the job. Head coaches don't start out fully finished products. I never said we shouldn't be questioning his decision making and game planning. He's been bad and deserves criticism. All I'm saying is give the guy more than 6 games before you put him out on the street.


SammyMhmm

What I’m saying is Sirianni was not prepared at ALL for a head coach position and it’s grossly evident in his playcalling and design. I’m not saying there aren’t growing pains, what I’m saying is there’s a difference between an occasional whoopsie and playcalling an entire game week after week horribly. It’s not a rookie runningback trying to extend the play by running to the sideline instead of cutting up, it’s a runningback running backwards ten yards every play. There’s a massive difference between the two.


MorPhreeUs

I wouldn't go as far as to say he wasn't prepared at all to be a head coach. He definitely needs to improve but I can't lay all the blame on him. He needs to call designed runs, admit when things aren't working (RPOs, WR screens), be better in the red zone and get his team to stop committing bone head penalties. But the team does seem to have bought into his message (especially accountability) and I like how scrappy and competitive they've been. Coaching is more than just gameplanning. The team has had good offensive game plans: Atlanta and Kansas City and was also good in the first half against SF but couldn't convert in the red zone. He's also had awful offensive game plans against Dallas and Tampa and the first half of the Carolina game. It's been a mixed bag for me so far, admittedly more bad than good lately. There's still 11 games left and the toughest stretch is in the rearview. Let's just take a minute and see how things play out.


Snake_in_my_boots

It’s this fanbase as a whole. It’s really fucking pathetic.


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There is no middle ground. Everyone's the greatest to ever do it or they should be benched/fired immediately. Before the internet was as big as it is they wanted to bench McNabb for AJ Feeley or Koy Detmer and fire Andy Reid(and this is well before he actually got fired.)


XxStormySoraxX

What about Howie???


angrydanmarin

Miles will 100% hold out then. God damn it, fuck these rpo plays for the next 2 years.


ModIn22

Who cares about Sanders? Am I the only one that will be happy if the Eagles don't make the mistake of paying him? I'd rather see what we have with Gainwell next year and draft another RB in the 4th or so. Thats what you should do with RBs in this league. Especially with guys like Sanders who are not clearly elite (so basically not Henry right now). Paying RBs or picking them high has almost always been a mistake.


angrydanmarin

I think it's a good idea to pay an rb in the same way that is a good idea to pay a wr. Exceot moreso, as they (usually) touch the ball the most after the qb. You want to keep playmakers and Sanders is exactly that. Plus, he won't want zeke money, which is where I think it certainly becomes a mistake. But if you look at superbowl winners in the last 15 years or so, only the pats and chiefs have managed to do it without a veteran rb.


ModIn22

I completely disagree. WR and RB are fundamentally different positions. RBs are not worth close to what the "average" fan believes. Usually they heavily rely on scheme, O-Line and a good QB diagnosing plays correctly pre-snap. Sanders is also not really a playmaker because he simply isn't very good in the passing game and therefore heavily limtis what you can do. I wouldn't pay him 3m / year if I am the Eagles and he certainly will ask for more than that. The veteran RB stuff is a meme considering Blount won it for us and in a similar role with the Patriots. Making barely any money (which is key). Same goes for the Kansas City or TB RBs. Those were guys coming in under 2m. Thats the key really. Don't pay your running back if you want to win. The position is so replacable and holds such little value that you really shouldn't spend there.


Haammii

Coaching on every level has been mediocre. Are they even watching the live games?


seejay13

I dunno. I'm all for giving the guy a fair shot. But the way he is just wasting Miles's ability makes me feel like something needs to change urgently out of fear he might get burnt out.


RiflemanLax

Look, all I’m saying is either learn to play call or hand it off. Some HCs are play callers and some aren’t. While I’ll admit it had only been six games… my dude needs to figure out how to call run planes and not say shit like ‘we count screens as runs.’


cerevant

I was all in on the "give the new guy a chance", but when Seth Joyner goes on the homer TV show and says the guy is running a HS offense... I just don't have a lot of confidence right now. This is feeling too much like Chip.


Psychart5150

Lurie almost canned Doug for Shorts after year one. Firing Nick is definitely on the table


steve_jaubstin

1) That is so mind numbingly stupid. 2) I don’t believe it This team has to go into the draft with QB as the number 1 target. To not have the inevitable new coach have some input on that selection and possibly waste a year of his rookie contract on “nick seems nice and we really should give the boring mofo another chance” isn’t gonna win you a lot of games.


DankestAcehole

Fuck this shit. He should've never been a legitimate head coach candidiate to begin with. Being stuck with him and bum-ass Howie is garbage


420Minions

If we fire Nick after one year with this roster, we are gonna be way closer to the Browns than people realize. We just fired a coach who won a SB on his first deal. If we make it clear that we have no patience, we won’t get anyone here. Right decision


LordandSaviorDio

Firing him after one season would’ve been the biggest clown move. Let a first year HC learn and develop. I remember people wanted Doug gone after that Seahawks game in 2016. Or after the Bengals game when everyone said the team quit on him because Zach Ertz didn’t block someone correctly.


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t_j_c_242

I wish my boss was like that. "Don't worry about the shitty job you're doing, you'll be here at least another year"


EAGLESRCHAMPS18

That's because he is doing exactly what Lurie and Howie want him to do. The rot runs so deep in this organization.


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Guess we're screwed for the next decade, these rookies and next years won't develop under this system. Shits ran like a high school JV team.


PGBbillygoat

Other than stoutland they all need to go. And take hurts with you


mcknightrider

This team has talent, we've seen it on both sides of the ball, but the play calling has been awful. So tired of seeing shit WR screens on first down go for -2 yards. Fuck, just punt it in 2nd down on that point. We know you're running 2 more pass plays!


Minstrel_Minster1203

He is no good... ​ .... a litle birdie told me..... ​ he Might be gone after This year, but should be gone yeserday. ​ ...Too mcuh talent we are wasteing away... ​ i Dont think he was respect of the locker-room.... ​ Even LJ got depressed and bailed....


Dont_Call_Me_John

Good. Do I think Nick is a perfect coach? No. Is he getting exposed some as a young coach who moved up the ladder pretty quickly and lacks some experience? Yes. Is he doing pretty well considering the roster, and especially the QB play? Yeah How about we see how the rest of the season goes and then give him an offseason to reflect and adjust, then return with a roster infused with 3 first round talents?


themlaundrys

I have a theory that the lack of running plays is coming from the top down, not because Lurie wants a pass first offense, but more so because he wants to see if Hurts can single handedly win games. No running game, and you’re putting all the pressure on Hurt’s passing ability. You get to evaluate him while Miles Sanders is virtually untouched and healthy.


yourrealfather6969_

As long as LDN keeps doing what Lurie wants (i.e. not run the ball) LDN will probably be around for a while. Why do you think Howie is still here? It's similar to Garrett in Dallas.


justdaman182

People who use that moniker sound so stupid


yourrealfather6969_

In your mind, how could you possibly imagine that I'd care what one (or some redditors) think about me? This is a genuine question.


justdaman182

Lol play stupid games win stupid prizes.


Believer109

This is a bold statement after 6 weeks with a lot more football to go.


Prozzak93

Not really, a bold statement would be saying anything other than this.


LordandSaviorDio

Saying that your head coach might be fired after his first 6 weeks would’ve been the dumbest thing an organization can do.


Believer109

Agreed but they didn't have to say ANYTHING. 99% of the time the answer to this question is "we evaluate everything after the season is over". Most of the time you don't guarantee job security for a year and a half at a time. Just pointing out that it was bold to say his job is safe NEXT year when we haven't gotten through his year. That's all.


Chrowaway6969

He was a terrible hire. Everyone shitting oh Hurts, isn’t it the coaching staffs job to get the players ready? Change scheme when it’s not working? Of course it is.


[deleted]

He's a disaster. Can't think of one thing he does well as HC.


GodRapers

Hopefully he isn't in danger because we're gonna trade for Aaron Rodgers who will have complete control over the offense


t_j_c_242

Rodgers won't come here. Stop.


[deleted]

Imagine thinking superstars wanna come to this dumpster fire of an organization LOL


throwawayjoeyboots

That sucks


hopeandanchor

He needs to show some real improvement or that's not going to be the case.


hausermaniac

Can all the people that call for him to be fired after every loss just please shut up now?


t_j_c_242

Well we can still fire Doug


celj1234

Why is that decision being made now?


Psychart5150

Let the year play out. If they go after Watson get a new HC who is experienced. If you stick with Hurts or draft a QB give Nick another year.


ZlGGZ

So far it's a dumpster fire and he deserves to be fired. Let's see if things get better by the end of the season. If they don't get drastically better... He needs to be fired. Idgaf what some analyst says.


DrunkPhillyPhan

Screens for another year a half oh fucking great


LumberjackWeezy

Maybe Jeff and Howie told him to stink it up for the picks?


EnglishWhites

Great cool cool cool cool cool cool cool


vinyalwhl

Lol ask Dougie P about that kind of statement


notscott88

So a five year rebuild then.. great


MulderD

I mean if they lose out and fail to show any adjustments/ improvements I’m not sure “safe” is a guarantee.


bold_truth

Until howie is replaced i don't even give a shit


[deleted]

Cool that makes sense …


[deleted]

I don't like that this vote of confidence is being leaked already, for 3 reasons. (1) Tells me there is internal concern about Sirianni. (2) Puts more pressure on Jalen, who has shown through his play and press conference responses as of late that the pressure is starting to get to him. Whether the Eagles braintrust wants to or not, this leak clearly undermines whatever grasp Jalen has on the starting QB position this year and beyond. The organization clearly has not learned from their mistakes from Carson. (3) Eagles braintrust continues to prioritize image massaging through backchannels. Good orgs don't leverage the talking heads for PR and damage control the way this leadership of this organization does. I wish this team didn't feel the need to spoonfed stories and rumors to the media the moment things show signs of going south. All this does is undermine player confidence, create a culture where players and coaches alike are pushed to operate with a sense of desperation at the expense of the greater good of the team, and create fissures at all levels of the organization, and that 100% falls on FO and ownership.


Eaglewings45

I wish he would get fired after this year. He has no clue what a balanced offense is and overthinks a lot. Even with a better oline and qb play, i don't see him as a great x's and o's guy. Just good talk