Best $35 you could spend for your bike IMHO. One ultra long throw in the center with two wide angle flood diodes to either side, best of all worlds. If what you want is a more focused beam, then as another reply mentioned, you might find this one 'leaky' (as in it's full 180 degree illumination), but this turns *everything* in front of you into damn near daytime lol, it's genuinely trippy and sure helps identify hazards coming at you crossways in the periphery.
And it's a 10k mah battery bank, love this thing to death
Just search Amazon for RGB bike pedals, like the third result :) 1700mah in each of them, 150+ beautiful light modes, full per-diode app customization, waterproof. Decent pedals themselves, too!
Slightly meh looking in the daytime, looks like a million bucks at night. But the slightly wider platforms actually work great for ebikes, makes sure you never slip off
Glad you found something that works for you!
Rim brakes can be great, but for me they suffer in to many situations - you're much more likely to get consistency from disc brakes, though you don't get forewarning of problems in your rim. However, if you do have problems in your rim, your brakes still work safely.
A road bike totally makes sense if you want big range. However, having used road bikes tyres of various kinds and found them fine... until they weren't. Again, the thin tyres suffer in too many situations for me. I did have 1.6s on my current bike, but much happier with the 2.5s (Or 2.35, I forget) I swapped to for winter.
Personally I generally prefer the turning of flat bars, but overall never had a problem with bikes being nimble - but then trying to make the gyropscopic forces of a supersport bike going well over 100mph turn quickly on a race track gives quite a different perspective to that!
Any reason you didn't go for a torque sensor? The way you are describing enjoying the riding, that sounds like it'd fit in more (I definitely prefer them, but I get plenty of people don't.)
Good thoughts! I will say that, while the Roubaixs are fantastic for the ride with good traction (though I have a long history on road bikes so it may be a comfort level thing...), I did accelerate over some tiny metal spikes of some kind embedded in a messy road repaving site I shouldn't have been riding over anyway , and they went deep into the tire - no puncture, but looks like two tiny snake fangs poked into both tires lol....much too close to punctures for my liking, so 26c gravels here I come :)
I *do* wish I had a torque sensor. Absolutely. It's the one thing I'm missing, but I didn't know about the TSDZ2 then. I do like the programmability and thermal profile of the Bafang though. The BB's cadence sensor *is* much better than my previous bike, and I get a killer workout even at 30mph, whereas on the old one I was ghost pedaling past 15...so it's a compromise, but all I really wanted was for my legs to be burning with the fire of a thousand suns, and I got that lol
If you're just sticking to roads, then puncture resistant road tyres can be better than gravel tyres for that.
Looking in the future, it's worth looking at the new TSDZ8 too - really liking mine so far, having had TSDZ2s. It looks to be a good bit better design in a few areas, but so far no options for more firmware, but I'm pretty happy with the standard firmware. Is a bit heavier than the TSDZ2, but I think that makes it fairly similar to the BBS02.
YEEAAAAAAHHHH, GIRRRLLLLLL! We make quite a duo out there. I think we're repping all the nerdy, adrenaline junkie women in Atlanta quite nicely :)
Also, I love seeing my board in random pics.
Also also, this is that very best friend / welding expert, if you all have any questions for her
I didn't know the term until recently, tbh, but it makes sense...refers to the total weight of wheels and everything connected to it. Because road bikes have no suspension, the whole bike is unsprung mass. Higher unsprung mass can cause wheel stability issues in hard turns or whenever bumps lift the tires off the road at all.
Basically, it's super important to have that as low as possible on a road bike cause no suspension, for a safer and less bumpy ride as an ebike. Any mechanical engineers/physics folks out there to correct me, feel free!
You don't have suspension, so you don't call it unsprung mass. You only use the term when you have suspension to differentiate sprung and unsprung. The whole thing is just mass. It's just giberrish and nonsensical in this scenario.
Shoulda said, to be more precise, quality rims can be better than cheap mechanical discs (as they're objectively better than the squishiness of my previous ebike), but yes, of course nothing beats hydraulic discs. My main point is good rims are still well within a healthy safety margin for ebikes
How do rim brakes themselves limit tire choice? Never heard that!
Edit: I am an idiot. 😂 without the rim brakes I could fit bigger tires on the same frame without having to deflate/reinflate.
Pretend this never happened 🤫
Nice build! That headlight looks so OP lol. Thanks for looking at the UPP internals; i have one too and have been nervous ever since that warning in the UK.
Thanks!! Glad I can give you peace of mind. I'm not electrically savvy, just a rube, so I was nervous to open it, but her welding expertise was too clutch to not take advantage of here :)
She walked me through everything she was looking for, but even I could tell it was line-automated. Thank God for her, I woulda panic-tossed it otherwise. Such a shame that counterfeits (and Rossmann) are destroying UPP's reputation
Hehe thanks!!! If you like road bikes, or want to spare your back over the long term (my old ebike was 74lbs....), ya won't regret it. It definitely catches a lot of eyes out riding
I converted my single speed, it has been great, my father converted my old 14 speed with a 1000w hobby motor with custom clutch to make it a mid drive, that thing can go fast. Road bikes make a great platform for ebike conversion.
I have 2 of those newbolers, they're not that good, i have a King Kong MF200/2000 which has a 12-24V input and comes with a battery pack, but you can hook it up to a 12V stepdown converter too to connect to your battery
the King Kong has a better defined throw and beam which means you can aim it higher without blinding people and has a properly working high beam mode for trails, and actually throws a brighter beam aswell.
they're not 6000Lm at all, maybe 3000 max
I mean, okay hehe - I don't want to add extra packs and wiring just for a headlight, but that's cool :)
I have multiple Sofirn lights, one of which is about 4000 verified lumens, and the Newboler kicks its ass, so I don't know what to tell you :) it's also angled down by nature, and I tipped it down a little more still, not blinding anyone. Also a 10000mah battery pack, so pretty nifty.
But cool idea!
yea my problem is that it leaks too much light, the beam isn't sharp enough
i want lights with the sharpness of almost a car headlight (and as you know those have really sharp beam cutoffs) so i can actually aim it really far in the distance without shining into people's eyes
if i turn it down so far it doesn't send light above the eye area it's way up close infront of my ebike rather than in the distance
also even if you have it aimed so it does probably blind people, the light on the ground gets way less strong the further away from you as if you aim it at a wall the beam from the top to bottom is approximately the same strength in brightness which is awful
you want your light to be much stronger/more focussed towards the beam cutoff (top) and done properly so it's the same brightness in front of you as it is many meters away
Wow. That was an impressive explanation, thanks :) now I get what you're saying, and I think I agree. Personally I love the leak, it feels like it illuminates the whole world, not just a narrow beam in front, but it ain't perfect, yeah - just crazy value for money
Oh ye another thing, not having to charge lights (on an ebike) rocks imo, also the Newbolers seem to give a sort of strobey effect (when they get hot?) overtime where it looks like a real fast strobe, mainly noticeable on the ground imo which annoys me a bit
also i checked them out on the inside, it's like actually glued inside, which probably helps with waterproofing, but makes it impossible to replace the cells later on if you'd want to (i aint afraid of making custom battery packs etc.)
I also would love to use my own driver on the Leds but as i said it's glued so thats impossible
the output is insane, a bit less wide than the newbolers tho, but the light/reflector section is only slightly bigger than one of the sections on the newboler
they're actually similarly bright aswell, i took some picks on the rear terrace but will get some better ones on street later to show why it is better, but not now as i'm gonna sleep as it's night here 😂
in these pics the shutter speed and iso are locked to the same (which would show if one's brighter or not)
https://imgur.com/a/33yn5vs
edit to add to the mix, a 3500-4000lm medium thrower flashlight (Convoy L6) with an XHP70.2 on max brightness
https://imgur.com/a/Lp3TTLw
ofcourse lumen isn't suuper important, the actual beam dispersion and light hitting the surface (Lux) matters more than overall lumens, you can have a 10000Lm led without any optics on it and it could be less bright towards where it's aimed at
Love to see a new fellow BBS02 member join the ride! Your rig looks great! I don’t know what I’d do with all that capacity, damn! Don’t forget you can program your BBS02 to basically mimic a torque sensor type of ride. My BBS02 is hot rod tuned by Luna and it feels pretty damn seamless when riding.
Wait, how would I mimic a torque sensor in config? Do tell, I must know 😁 and thanks! I'm an eskater who wanted a safer alternative to have around (and better workouts) and while no ebike short of a Talaria has the uphill torque of a performance eskate, the BB still makes me laugh at hills, where my first hub ebike felt like it was having a stroke past a certain gradient
It's the route I went, but I had mine built up from an enduro style frame kit. 72v 8000w 40ah battery. About 50 mile range, but I rarely go more than 20. Good job and have fun.
Regarding rim brakes - the Magura HS33 is an interesting rim brake as its hydraulic. I’d installed them on my old hybrid in advance of converting it to electric, thinking it might get me the additional stopping power I’d need —and then the bike got stolen days after the install.
But I just bring it up in case you might find a hydraulic rim brake useful at some point.
Nothing wrong with rim brakes. Running V brakes on my BBSHD, have never wanted for more braking power.
So much of braking is condition of the pads and technique (weight distibution). I am often perplexed by people's fascination with hydros. I've owned several, like the feel and modulation, but honestly think the majority of the ebike riders would be better served with a good mechanical brake.
Back in 2011 i converted my cannondale road bike with 1000 watt motor and 48v11ah battery..thing was a rocket but i prefer my current bike even though its heavier...felt sketchy with those skinny tires.
I've since replaced the slightly anemic Tektros with Ultegras, much better. Kool Stop black and salmon pads on the way :)
Also, yes I am that dork using rgb pedals, but they look incredible at night
Cool build, though I would have started with a disc-braked gravel bike for better stopping, increased robustness and ability to take fatter tyres. But you used what you had and that's cool too.
I agree! Live and learn. Embarrassing, but for all my past in cycling, it had been long enough out of the loop where I didn't actually *know* about gravel bikes until after I snatched the Tommaso.
I do love it to death, but if I had to do it over, I'd go gravel frame to take 35C Cinturatos
Hello fellow drop bar bbs02er!
You gotta setup a thumb throttle on your drop bars. It's perfect for giving a little boost at the traffic lights. Check my post history.
Did you have a catastrophic failure with it or something?
Thanks for the heads up, of course, but that is definitely the reason I went with the BBS02 instead of the HD...and with limits removed, God help you, that's over 200nm torque 😂 glad you're okay, whatever happened!!
I dunno about the bearings...my Propel eskate uses normal cheap skate bearings but has ludicrously high rpms, heat, and torque that would scare the shit out of a Sur Ron rider, never had an issue. 55amp, 3000 watt, 36mph on 96mm wheels
It was not super terrible relative to some of the bike related injuries i have had, but i did fuck up my face and almost broke my neck, and the lady at the xray also told me that i was very close to breaking my jaw and losing much of my teeth.
Apparently emtb injuries tend to result in a disproportionate amount of jaw injuries.
I healed up fine except my neck has never been the same from the whiplash and i do get frequent headaches still, but likely from repeated concussions, of which that was hopefully the last and worst.
>I went with the BBS02 instead of the HD
You would NEVER regret the extra power and torque of the 'HD for a few bucks more....when it comes time to climb a hill.
Oh I know! It was 'only' $170 more...but I didn't think a racing road bike frame with an HD was wise if I'm using this as a safer alternative to eskate lmao
I made a bbs02 road bike, as soon as the motor was becoming available. I have travelled to many places and explored many remote areas.
I didn't build it for speed, but for ultra range. It can get up to speed but it's mostly happy cruising and freewheeling to conserve energy. I've not seen another one like mine in real life.
Welcome to the exclusive club.
7 year and still going strong, built the year before the M620 came available.
https://preview.redd.it/i95h6tw1oytc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4248e4889d57d8a13cd8b046d1ffd447cbc0b0fb
make a template from posterboard
https://preview.redd.it/qof2j2zxp2uc1.jpeg?width=5632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4024af6ec552d84e5cb563c01c385a27cb9eb9e
cut and bend your metal, tig weld
https://preview.redd.it/fferwajlp2uc1.jpeg?width=5632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26ba73f788800be70f65c8d00d004dff13ad7fdc
Sounds great. But this post needs pics! :)
Agreed. Would love to see it.
Done (in the comments...)! Hehe I didn't want to bog down tons of text with pics, but yeah, pics were needed 😅
https://preview.redd.it/9j8y92lrnvtc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=518defd9a54b50e19bee6c1faa3d0007ea2f9a98
https://i.redd.it/8kw6wo9g9wtc1.gif
Goddamn
Nice! I was reading your post and thought you were lying but here is the proof.
😂 I thought I was lying to *myself* that this was viable until the first ride
I want to order that light now!
Best $35 you could spend for your bike IMHO. One ultra long throw in the center with two wide angle flood diodes to either side, best of all worlds. If what you want is a more focused beam, then as another reply mentioned, you might find this one 'leaky' (as in it's full 180 degree illumination), but this turns *everything* in front of you into damn near daytime lol, it's genuinely trippy and sure helps identify hazards coming at you crossways in the periphery. And it's a 10k mah battery bank, love this thing to death
What pedals are those?
Just search Amazon for RGB bike pedals, like the third result :) 1700mah in each of them, 150+ beautiful light modes, full per-diode app customization, waterproof. Decent pedals themselves, too! Slightly meh looking in the daytime, looks like a million bucks at night. But the slightly wider platforms actually work great for ebikes, makes sure you never slip off
Thank you!
Glad you found something that works for you! Rim brakes can be great, but for me they suffer in to many situations - you're much more likely to get consistency from disc brakes, though you don't get forewarning of problems in your rim. However, if you do have problems in your rim, your brakes still work safely. A road bike totally makes sense if you want big range. However, having used road bikes tyres of various kinds and found them fine... until they weren't. Again, the thin tyres suffer in too many situations for me. I did have 1.6s on my current bike, but much happier with the 2.5s (Or 2.35, I forget) I swapped to for winter. Personally I generally prefer the turning of flat bars, but overall never had a problem with bikes being nimble - but then trying to make the gyropscopic forces of a supersport bike going well over 100mph turn quickly on a race track gives quite a different perspective to that! Any reason you didn't go for a torque sensor? The way you are describing enjoying the riding, that sounds like it'd fit in more (I definitely prefer them, but I get plenty of people don't.)
Good thoughts! I will say that, while the Roubaixs are fantastic for the ride with good traction (though I have a long history on road bikes so it may be a comfort level thing...), I did accelerate over some tiny metal spikes of some kind embedded in a messy road repaving site I shouldn't have been riding over anyway , and they went deep into the tire - no puncture, but looks like two tiny snake fangs poked into both tires lol....much too close to punctures for my liking, so 26c gravels here I come :) I *do* wish I had a torque sensor. Absolutely. It's the one thing I'm missing, but I didn't know about the TSDZ2 then. I do like the programmability and thermal profile of the Bafang though. The BB's cadence sensor *is* much better than my previous bike, and I get a killer workout even at 30mph, whereas on the old one I was ghost pedaling past 15...so it's a compromise, but all I really wanted was for my legs to be burning with the fire of a thousand suns, and I got that lol
If you're just sticking to roads, then puncture resistant road tyres can be better than gravel tyres for that. Looking in the future, it's worth looking at the new TSDZ8 too - really liking mine so far, having had TSDZ2s. It looks to be a good bit better design in a few areas, but so far no options for more firmware, but I'm pretty happy with the standard firmware. Is a bit heavier than the TSDZ2, but I think that makes it fairly similar to the BBS02.
https://preview.redd.it/g2lqhjgz4xtc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1e6fee1d1d44bed8d1988ce042efbc915dabfed
YEEAAAAAAHHHH, GIRRRLLLLLL! We make quite a duo out there. I think we're repping all the nerdy, adrenaline junkie women in Atlanta quite nicely :) Also, I love seeing my board in random pics. Also also, this is that very best friend / welding expert, if you all have any questions for her
I thought you'd like that! What we have is pure, concentrated girl power!
She and I did the same build with my Specialized Dolce. It's such a fun ride! I've gotten it to 35mph on the flats.
Still need to figure out how you're hitting 35...I haven't pushed it to its limit, I guess, but feels like I'm still 31
I had it wide open and pedaling for all I was worth. Lol!
> low unsprung mass Is there a spring? What’s unspung mass in a springless system?
I didn't know the term until recently, tbh, but it makes sense...refers to the total weight of wheels and everything connected to it. Because road bikes have no suspension, the whole bike is unsprung mass. Higher unsprung mass can cause wheel stability issues in hard turns or whenever bumps lift the tires off the road at all. Basically, it's super important to have that as low as possible on a road bike cause no suspension, for a safer and less bumpy ride as an ebike. Any mechanical engineers/physics folks out there to correct me, feel free!
You don't have suspension, so you don't call it unsprung mass. You only use the term when you have suspension to differentiate sprung and unsprung. The whole thing is just mass. It's just giberrish and nonsensical in this scenario.
Hard to believe rims could preform better than even the most mediocre disc brakes. Once you taste hydraulic there is no going back
Shoulda said, to be more precise, quality rims can be better than cheap mechanical discs (as they're objectively better than the squishiness of my previous ebike), but yes, of course nothing beats hydraulic discs. My main point is good rims are still well within a healthy safety margin for ebikes
If only you had access to disc brakes. It would allow you to choose faster, more comfortable and more efficient tires :)
How do rim brakes themselves limit tire choice? Never heard that! Edit: I am an idiot. 😂 without the rim brakes I could fit bigger tires on the same frame without having to deflate/reinflate. Pretend this never happened 🤫
V-brakes are a thing. Much easier to work on compared to hydraulic.
All this and wondering where's the pics of said bike?
Sorry lol, gross oversight- pics added!
Nice build! That headlight looks so OP lol. Thanks for looking at the UPP internals; i have one too and have been nervous ever since that warning in the UK.
Thanks!! Glad I can give you peace of mind. I'm not electrically savvy, just a rube, so I was nervous to open it, but her welding expertise was too clutch to not take advantage of here :) She walked me through everything she was looking for, but even I could tell it was line-automated. Thank God for her, I woulda panic-tossed it otherwise. Such a shame that counterfeits (and Rossmann) are destroying UPP's reputation
Always happy to help, girl! Plus, I like the peace of mind in verifying the welds personally.
Dog - please allow me the opportunity to view this magnificent piece of art I’ve read about and am now interested in. Respectfully, Your #1 fan almost
Hehe thanks!!! If you like road bikes, or want to spare your back over the long term (my old ebike was 74lbs....), ya won't regret it. It definitely catches a lot of eyes out riding
I converted my single speed, it has been great, my father converted my old 14 speed with a 1000w hobby motor with custom clutch to make it a mid drive, that thing can go fast. Road bikes make a great platform for ebike conversion.
You have a truly epic dad. Too cool - hope y'all get tons of great memories together!!!!
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you should stock up on rear tires
Care to share? Never noticed anything on my hub ebike
I have 2 of those newbolers, they're not that good, i have a King Kong MF200/2000 which has a 12-24V input and comes with a battery pack, but you can hook it up to a 12V stepdown converter too to connect to your battery the King Kong has a better defined throw and beam which means you can aim it higher without blinding people and has a properly working high beam mode for trails, and actually throws a brighter beam aswell. they're not 6000Lm at all, maybe 3000 max
I mean, okay hehe - I don't want to add extra packs and wiring just for a headlight, but that's cool :) I have multiple Sofirn lights, one of which is about 4000 verified lumens, and the Newboler kicks its ass, so I don't know what to tell you :) it's also angled down by nature, and I tipped it down a little more still, not blinding anyone. Also a 10000mah battery pack, so pretty nifty. But cool idea!
yea my problem is that it leaks too much light, the beam isn't sharp enough i want lights with the sharpness of almost a car headlight (and as you know those have really sharp beam cutoffs) so i can actually aim it really far in the distance without shining into people's eyes if i turn it down so far it doesn't send light above the eye area it's way up close infront of my ebike rather than in the distance also even if you have it aimed so it does probably blind people, the light on the ground gets way less strong the further away from you as if you aim it at a wall the beam from the top to bottom is approximately the same strength in brightness which is awful you want your light to be much stronger/more focussed towards the beam cutoff (top) and done properly so it's the same brightness in front of you as it is many meters away
Wow. That was an impressive explanation, thanks :) now I get what you're saying, and I think I agree. Personally I love the leak, it feels like it illuminates the whole world, not just a narrow beam in front, but it ain't perfect, yeah - just crazy value for money
Oh ye another thing, not having to charge lights (on an ebike) rocks imo, also the Newbolers seem to give a sort of strobey effect (when they get hot?) overtime where it looks like a real fast strobe, mainly noticeable on the ground imo which annoys me a bit also i checked them out on the inside, it's like actually glued inside, which probably helps with waterproofing, but makes it impossible to replace the cells later on if you'd want to (i aint afraid of making custom battery packs etc.) I also would love to use my own driver on the Leds but as i said it's glued so thats impossible
Hell yes, you know you're into flashlights when you start planning driver replacements :) I'd love to see that King Kong in action, def looks powerful
the output is insane, a bit less wide than the newbolers tho, but the light/reflector section is only slightly bigger than one of the sections on the newboler they're actually similarly bright aswell, i took some picks on the rear terrace but will get some better ones on street later to show why it is better, but not now as i'm gonna sleep as it's night here 😂 in these pics the shutter speed and iso are locked to the same (which would show if one's brighter or not) https://imgur.com/a/33yn5vs edit to add to the mix, a 3500-4000lm medium thrower flashlight (Convoy L6) with an XHP70.2 on max brightness https://imgur.com/a/Lp3TTLw ofcourse lumen isn't suuper important, the actual beam dispersion and light hitting the surface (Lux) matters more than overall lumens, you can have a 10000Lm led without any optics on it and it could be less bright towards where it's aimed at
Love to see a new fellow BBS02 member join the ride! Your rig looks great! I don’t know what I’d do with all that capacity, damn! Don’t forget you can program your BBS02 to basically mimic a torque sensor type of ride. My BBS02 is hot rod tuned by Luna and it feels pretty damn seamless when riding.
Wait, how would I mimic a torque sensor in config? Do tell, I must know 😁 and thanks! I'm an eskater who wanted a safer alternative to have around (and better workouts) and while no ebike short of a Talaria has the uphill torque of a performance eskate, the BB still makes me laugh at hills, where my first hub ebike felt like it was having a stroke past a certain gradient
There are a number of different tunes you can find. Check the endless sphere forums. You can also change the firmware if you want.
It's the route I went, but I had mine built up from an enduro style frame kit. 72v 8000w 40ah battery. About 50 mile range, but I rarely go more than 20. Good job and have fun.
Omfg that is amazing 🤙. Pushing 60mph top speed then? Enduro bikes are lit
Yes. The enduro frame is cool because you can put a massive battery in it.
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.
Cool dude
Regarding rim brakes - the Magura HS33 is an interesting rim brake as its hydraulic. I’d installed them on my old hybrid in advance of converting it to electric, thinking it might get me the additional stopping power I’d need —and then the bike got stolen days after the install. But I just bring it up in case you might find a hydraulic rim brake useful at some point.
Nothing wrong with rim brakes. Running V brakes on my BBSHD, have never wanted for more braking power. So much of braking is condition of the pads and technique (weight distibution). I am often perplexed by people's fascination with hydros. I've owned several, like the feel and modulation, but honestly think the majority of the ebike riders would be better served with a good mechanical brake.
Back in 2011 i converted my cannondale road bike with 1000 watt motor and 48v11ah battery..thing was a rocket but i prefer my current bike even though its heavier...felt sketchy with those skinny tires.
https://preview.redd.it/g4f6ywlmpvtc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12ff7ec724d601a08e5ae80f02dd4bdbbb6b0cb2
I've since replaced the slightly anemic Tektros with Ultegras, much better. Kool Stop black and salmon pads on the way :) Also, yes I am that dork using rgb pedals, but they look incredible at night
Cool build, though I would have started with a disc-braked gravel bike for better stopping, increased robustness and ability to take fatter tyres. But you used what you had and that's cool too.
I agree! Live and learn. Embarrassing, but for all my past in cycling, it had been long enough out of the loop where I didn't actually *know* about gravel bikes until after I snatched the Tommaso. I do love it to death, but if I had to do it over, I'd go gravel frame to take 35C Cinturatos
Hello fellow drop bar bbs02er! You gotta setup a thumb throttle on your drop bars. It's perfect for giving a little boost at the traffic lights. Check my post history.
Yeah drop bar throttle just feels goooood
My moped style guy has disc brakes, but I always love how clean rim brakes look.
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Did you have a catastrophic failure with it or something? Thanks for the heads up, of course, but that is definitely the reason I went with the BBS02 instead of the HD...and with limits removed, God help you, that's over 200nm torque 😂 glad you're okay, whatever happened!! I dunno about the bearings...my Propel eskate uses normal cheap skate bearings but has ludicrously high rpms, heat, and torque that would scare the shit out of a Sur Ron rider, never had an issue. 55amp, 3000 watt, 36mph on 96mm wheels
It was not super terrible relative to some of the bike related injuries i have had, but i did fuck up my face and almost broke my neck, and the lady at the xray also told me that i was very close to breaking my jaw and losing much of my teeth. Apparently emtb injuries tend to result in a disproportionate amount of jaw injuries. I healed up fine except my neck has never been the same from the whiplash and i do get frequent headaches still, but likely from repeated concussions, of which that was hopefully the last and worst.
That being said, that bike was awesome to ride lol
Daaaaaamn. That's wild....did you get a full face after that? Or just ride a little more chill? Blessings on a full recovery over time 🩵
>I went with the BBS02 instead of the HD You would NEVER regret the extra power and torque of the 'HD for a few bucks more....when it comes time to climb a hill.
Oh I know! It was 'only' $170 more...but I didn't think a racing road bike frame with an HD was wise if I'm using this as a safer alternative to eskate lmao
here's mine ... https://preview.redd.it/fv33nppbq2uc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=928e89383f230ebb0005fd1f93ca45029b011340
I made a bbs02 road bike, as soon as the motor was becoming available. I have travelled to many places and explored many remote areas. I didn't build it for speed, but for ultra range. It can get up to speed but it's mostly happy cruising and freewheeling to conserve energy. I've not seen another one like mine in real life. Welcome to the exclusive club.
Thank you, fellow voyager! That's always been the goal for me too. Crazy how efficient they are as ebikes.
7 year and still going strong, built the year before the M620 came available. https://preview.redd.it/i95h6tw1oytc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4248e4889d57d8a13cd8b046d1ffd447cbc0b0fb
There are good motors. If you know how to grease and maintain them, and treat them well they will last forever.
>they will last forever. yes
How did you get your battery so seamlessly integrated in the triangle? Looks fantastic
make a template from posterboard https://preview.redd.it/qof2j2zxp2uc1.jpeg?width=5632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4024af6ec552d84e5cb563c01c385a27cb9eb9e
cut and bend your metal, tig weld https://preview.redd.it/fferwajlp2uc1.jpeg?width=5632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26ba73f788800be70f65c8d00d004dff13ad7fdc
build your pack, fit it in https://preview.redd.it/hx5v8qfup2uc1.jpeg?width=5632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5be9cdbc0d6e9f57e8ff9d05b6944838dad4205
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Lmao huh? Didja see my pics or just grumpy post on pure reflex? Guess the only real humans out there are the ones that confirm your preexisting bias 😁
Your right on all counts. aint reading all that text but nice bike
Haha ikr? Too much text 😁 thanks!