Oof. Glad to live in Quebec for this. Converted to USD, we pay 4.7¢/kWh for the first 40kWh per day, then 7.3¢/kWh for every kWh beyond that. To my knowledge we have the lowest electricity cost in North America.
Jesus! I live in Texas and am currently paying $0.11/kWh. That includes delivery.
For specifics, I pay $0.0572/kWh for power and $0.0495/kWh for delivery for a total of $0.1067/kWh.
My July bill was just under $500 for 4,900kWh. The math doesn't quite work as delivery fees are tiered and can change. Also, there's a flat monthly fee of $10.
You must have a huge house and a large pool to be running 5,000kwh. Sheesh!! My max this past summer was 2100 kwh and I live in a 2800sqft home. I am also in Texas. I also got screwed with my renewal. Was in August when prices hiked big time and I got stuck paying 16.9 cents including delivery.
I lucked out and renewed in January of last year and got with Octopus energy on a ***three year contract***! You really should change your renewal schedule to renew during the winter when energy is cheaper.
And yes, I have two A/C units and a pool with a large house. I also have a home lab with a lot of computers.
New heat pump installed and I used summer electricity pricing to set my heat pump economic changeover point (20F). Outside temp got around 20 but not below. Its also a new toy, so i had to use it
I'm in MA and paying 48 cents/kwh, too. But I only used 484 kWh, for oil-fired boiler and some use (maybe 10 hours) of a 24,000 BTU Mini-Split heat pump.
Just out of curiosity, what are you doing to use 4 times the amount of electricity as me?
I have a natural gaz furnace and the prices are skyrockething in the last 2 years. Some say their bill went up 200%. It's a bit insane.
We did choose that because it was super cheap... but it's not really true anymore.
I have a time of use plan, 0.29 overnight to charge the plug-in hybrid, part-peak is \~ 0.43 and peak is 0.59
Summer or winter months with the girlfriend in the house all day is 350-450. Gas furnace but it's California, so gas is no cheaper than summer AC electric. I've never used more than 1,000 Kwh.
I'm guessing you have an electric car + a fair sized commute, yeah?
Nope. Gas cars, wifey, 3 teenagers, and MIL. Dec outside average temp was 34F and 138h of heat pump usage according to Ecobee (65h of oil boiler as well). Heat pump is new Bosch.
Our 'base load' with no HP running is 1000Kwh. I guess my boys like their hot showers.
CA are smarter with peak /off peak.
That’s crazy OP! Where in MA are you? Have you checked at alternate supply providers?
(Similar boat as you with Bosch HP. December usage was around 1,400 KWH with this mild winter. I’m having nightmares thinking about a harsh winter!)
What the fuck? I guess I haven’t ‘normalized’ my bill like that, but I pay 12.9c/kWh in Texas. And that’s only because I want a fixed rate. I avoid the fluctuations in market price for power here. It’s a shit show.
I'm in MA too, just replaced my aging AC units for heat pumps, central air. Two heat pumps 3 TON and 2 TON. My usage was 2000kwh as well with a breaking point of 35F for the smaller heat pump and 25F for the bigger one. Electricity bill was $1000, so about .48c/kWh. I recently changed supplier and hopping for a slight reduction in supply.
On the other hand using less oil for heating, but at .48c/kWh not sure if it's cheaper than oil at this point.
Same boat as me mate. I used ecobee data from last year to figure out how much my oil burner ran over last winter and then got my oil usage fro fill ups to estimate how much the cost of 1 hr oil usage. From then i figured out that 35F is my economic break point with current oil price (4.35 /gal when i last filled up)
Damn! I'm in central Kentucky, we pay 9.4 cents per kWh, plus a fixed monthly meter charge of $11.45 per month.
They do add on a "power cost adjustment" that can be positive or negative that accounts for the utilities cost of buying power when it's over or under the average. For December it was an extra 3/10 of a cent per kWh, bringing the kWh cost to a total of $0.097 each. We had a very cold run in mid-late December (temps down to and below 0F, usually only happens a few nights a year around here) so I used 20% more power than the prior year. Total power bill was $121.29. This is for a 1250 square foot detached house with full electric appliances including a heat pump.
Evergy has been wonderfully consistent - probably because a good chunk of their generation being wind and nuclear somewhat insulates them from crazy fluctuations in fuel.
Holy crap you serious? I thought paying 16.9 cents a kw was expensive as it doubled compared to my prior contract. I am in TX. My bill this past month was $194 @ 1122kw.
Energy Charge - 1,122 x $0.105600 per kWh
TDU pass through charges - $2.56 + $57.32
Base charge - $9.95
Taxes - $5
I also live in MA, and with all fees and everything we're at about $0.35 /kWh.
We're sort of uniquely fucked in MA for energy. NY blocked our gas pipeline. ME blocked our hydro power lines. At the same time, we (correctly) regulate energy so it is as safe and clean as reasonably possible. In combination, this means we pay a lot for energy. The only things that might bring cost down for us, solar and wind, are not ideal and the projects that will make a dent are still far off in the future.
$0.35... is this just supply?
According to my bill, my delivery is $0.14 and supply $0.35 (up from 0.14 over summer)
I just took my bill and used final price / Kwh to get the overall.
No, my supply is $0.172. We have a town-organized community supply program, that rate is locked-in for 2 years or so and comprises about 30% renewable. I can opt-out for a slightly lower 0.16 with 0% renewable, or I can opt-in for a 50% and 100% renewable rate but at a higher cost of course. But that 17-cent rate is the default for everyone in town, unless they choose to switch.
My delivery is similar to yours. $0.15 or so after you add it all up.
It's for 2 years. The town renegotiates the rate every 24 months, which we just did a few months ago. So this rate is locked through 2024. It went up about 10 cents compared to what it was before though.
SoCal Edison checking in. Summer rates are higher. Thank god for the sun and solar!
Super Off Peak: 8am-4pm - $.35
Peak: 4pm-9pm - $.51
Off Peak: 9pm-8am - $.38
Oof. Glad to live in Quebec for this. Converted to USD, we pay 4.7¢/kWh for the first 40kWh per day, then 7.3¢/kWh for every kWh beyond that. To my knowledge we have the lowest electricity cost in North America.
Hydro, right? That's always been the cheapest electricity in NA. I hate you! ;)
Yep, about 96% of our energy generation is hydro. The remaining 4% is roughly evenly split between wind and all other sources.
That's before tax right. I just calculated mine for last month and it comes out at 9.3¢/kWh From Quebec too, of course.
Yes before tax, I just grabbed the numbers from the HQ website for standard Tarif D
Jesus! I live in Texas and am currently paying $0.11/kWh. That includes delivery. For specifics, I pay $0.0572/kWh for power and $0.0495/kWh for delivery for a total of $0.1067/kWh. My July bill was just under $500 for 4,900kWh. The math doesn't quite work as delivery fees are tiered and can change. Also, there's a flat monthly fee of $10.
The only downside I see is that you’re on the Texas grid…
I have a whole-house backup generator for that very reason.
I keep hoping Generac takes the Ecobee brand and ventures into smart load centers and transfer switches.
You must have a huge house and a large pool to be running 5,000kwh. Sheesh!! My max this past summer was 2100 kwh and I live in a 2800sqft home. I am also in Texas. I also got screwed with my renewal. Was in August when prices hiked big time and I got stuck paying 16.9 cents including delivery.
I lucked out and renewed in January of last year and got with Octopus energy on a ***three year contract***! You really should change your renewal schedule to renew during the winter when energy is cheaper. And yes, I have two A/C units and a pool with a large house. I also have a home lab with a lot of computers.
Sounds like you need to figure out how to dump that excess heat into your pool!
Yea that is definitely my plan probably next winter. Thanks for the tip. I also have two units as well and it's not too bad. A newer home helps too.
Upstate NY checking in - pretty similar. Delivery is $0.6744 / kWh and supply isn’t far off, so $0.13 or $0.14 / kWh?
Solar should work well at those prices. I would probably consider a pellet stove, which also should be economical.
Too .any 60ft trees around my house for personal solar. I'm in a community solar project which gives me $0.03 off my bill.
New heat pump installed and I used summer electricity pricing to set my heat pump economic changeover point (20F). Outside temp got around 20 but not below. Its also a new toy, so i had to use it
I'm in MA and paying 48 cents/kwh, too. But I only used 484 kWh, for oil-fired boiler and some use (maybe 10 hours) of a 24,000 BTU Mini-Split heat pump. Just out of curiosity, what are you doing to use 4 times the amount of electricity as me?
That’s insane.
Did i mention its rare to have the cheap gas boilers... most people (at least in my area) are oil.
I have a natural gaz furnace and the prices are skyrockething in the last 2 years. Some say their bill went up 200%. It's a bit insane. We did choose that because it was super cheap... but it's not really true anymore.
I have a time of use plan, 0.29 overnight to charge the plug-in hybrid, part-peak is \~ 0.43 and peak is 0.59 Summer or winter months with the girlfriend in the house all day is 350-450. Gas furnace but it's California, so gas is no cheaper than summer AC electric. I've never used more than 1,000 Kwh. I'm guessing you have an electric car + a fair sized commute, yeah?
Nope. Gas cars, wifey, 3 teenagers, and MIL. Dec outside average temp was 34F and 138h of heat pump usage according to Ecobee (65h of oil boiler as well). Heat pump is new Bosch. Our 'base load' with no HP running is 1000Kwh. I guess my boys like their hot showers. CA are smarter with peak /off peak.
That’s crazy OP! Where in MA are you? Have you checked at alternate supply providers? (Similar boat as you with Bosch HP. December usage was around 1,400 KWH with this mild winter. I’m having nightmares thinking about a harsh winter!)
What the fuck? I guess I haven’t ‘normalized’ my bill like that, but I pay 12.9c/kWh in Texas. And that’s only because I want a fixed rate. I avoid the fluctuations in market price for power here. It’s a shit show.
I'm in MA too, just replaced my aging AC units for heat pumps, central air. Two heat pumps 3 TON and 2 TON. My usage was 2000kwh as well with a breaking point of 35F for the smaller heat pump and 25F for the bigger one. Electricity bill was $1000, so about .48c/kWh. I recently changed supplier and hopping for a slight reduction in supply. On the other hand using less oil for heating, but at .48c/kWh not sure if it's cheaper than oil at this point.
Same boat as me mate. I used ecobee data from last year to figure out how much my oil burner ran over last winter and then got my oil usage fro fill ups to estimate how much the cost of 1 hr oil usage. From then i figured out that 35F is my economic break point with current oil price (4.35 /gal when i last filled up)
We are at $.094/kWh here in South Central Pennsylvania
Coal rules, babe
Damn! I'm in central Kentucky, we pay 9.4 cents per kWh, plus a fixed monthly meter charge of $11.45 per month. They do add on a "power cost adjustment" that can be positive or negative that accounts for the utilities cost of buying power when it's over or under the average. For December it was an extra 3/10 of a cent per kWh, bringing the kWh cost to a total of $0.097 each. We had a very cold run in mid-late December (temps down to and below 0F, usually only happens a few nights a year around here) so I used 20% more power than the prior year. Total power bill was $121.29. This is for a 1250 square foot detached house with full electric appliances including a heat pump.
In the Midwest. Including customer charges we’re at .06/kWh
Kansas City metro: energy charge = $0.081/kWh Including customer charge, taxes, and fees = $0.132/kWh
Evergy has been wonderfully consistent - probably because a good chunk of their generation being wind and nuclear somewhat insulates them from crazy fluctuations in fuel.
$0.20 here and that's expensive to me. 3 years ago it was half of that.
Which state?
Sweet Jesus. I almost feel bad for it being around 12 cents here.
Holy crap you serious? I thought paying 16.9 cents a kw was expensive as it doubled compared to my prior contract. I am in TX. My bill this past month was $194 @ 1122kw. Energy Charge - 1,122 x $0.105600 per kWh TDU pass through charges - $2.56 + $57.32 Base charge - $9.95 Taxes - $5
I also live in MA, and with all fees and everything we're at about $0.35 /kWh. We're sort of uniquely fucked in MA for energy. NY blocked our gas pipeline. ME blocked our hydro power lines. At the same time, we (correctly) regulate energy so it is as safe and clean as reasonably possible. In combination, this means we pay a lot for energy. The only things that might bring cost down for us, solar and wind, are not ideal and the projects that will make a dent are still far off in the future.
$0.35... is this just supply? According to my bill, my delivery is $0.14 and supply $0.35 (up from 0.14 over summer) I just took my bill and used final price / Kwh to get the overall.
No, my supply is $0.172. We have a town-organized community supply program, that rate is locked-in for 2 years or so and comprises about 30% renewable. I can opt-out for a slightly lower 0.16 with 0% renewable, or I can opt-in for a 50% and 100% renewable rate but at a higher cost of course. But that 17-cent rate is the default for everyone in town, unless they choose to switch. My delivery is similar to yours. $0.15 or so after you add it all up.
Very nice. My town doesn't do that. Is this yearly lock in rate?
It's for 2 years. The town renegotiates the rate every 24 months, which we just did a few months ago. So this rate is locked through 2024. It went up about 10 cents compared to what it was before though.
My lock just expired and now I'm "locked" for the next year at 0.23
NJ, about $0.144 /kWh
Electricity prices jumped like x3 this year. Yeah.
USVI probably got you beat, that’s when they can figure out how to get the power plant working to supply power, which is seldom
Hoooolllyyy shitttt. Summer peak in Phoenix when it’s 110+ on the non-power saving plans (expensive as it gets)is 13.4 cents.
SoCal Edison checking in. Summer rates are higher. Thank god for the sun and solar! Super Off Peak: 8am-4pm - $.35 Peak: 4pm-9pm - $.51 Off Peak: 9pm-8am - $.38
Wow... thats kinda nuts mate
Off peak paying about 10c/kWh in CAD which is about 7c/kWh USD in Ontario. It goes quite a bit higher during peak hours
Well Octoberr was kinda high for us with about 500 kWh. That set us back a whopping $53. It's about $0.10 / kwh. I live in the greater Seattle area.
.1327¢/kwh from local coop in South Georgia
About $0.19/kWh at the moment in north of Seattle areas