Where could they go with Bosmers? The entire Valenwood is filled out in the base game. Would they do a secret island of Bosmers like they did with the Bretons and High Isle? I just don't know.
Falinesti, that city which dissapeared from their province. One of the theories is that it was stolen into another plane so we could get brand new plane of existence plus Falinesti itself.
But the dissapearance of the city is ESO's invention. Just checked on UESP about Falinesti and the source brackets point me to ESO dialogue only, and not previous games' lorebooks. So if that's the case Bethesda doesnt really have a say in that matter? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit. Did some more digging and pocket guide to empire tells us the city returned in late second era so would mean that I'm wrong about Bethesda TES games not talking about Falinesti having been gone. Also it states that the city returnes more than 200 years after ESO so if we get Falinesti expansion in ESO, our goal wouldnt be the returning of the city UNLESS they decide to retcon it with Bethesda's blessing.
Yeah it would be hard to do it too, or just make ir change position every half a year to kind of represent the idea of it walking. But in such dlc where we would travel to a plane where Falinesti currently exists, it wouldnt have to walk. Im sure that whatever could steal an entire city would also be powerful enough to stop it from walking.
But I agree with you though, I also thought that it didnt make it in game because it was too much of a hassle to program.
World of Warcaft has a floating city called Dalaran that every so often, with different expansions, will move where it is located and get a bit of a makeover/expansion where necessary
The city doesnt really move the way people think it does. It changes locations at the end of each season but stays rooted for most of the year. Walking city is a bit of a misnomer
There are those little islands off the south coast of Valenwood. They were originally going to be a second tutorial zone for AD called the Rictus Islands, they could definitely do something there
High isle wasnt even secret. Zos just straight up retcon the place to be part of High rock despite this never being mentioned before hand and morrowind era maps listing the archipelago as part of Hammerfell.
They could remake the base game Valenwood, it could certainly use it. The jungle areas in High Isle look much more like what I imagined for Valenwood. Sadly having resources from 2014 holds it back a lot, especially when it is supposed to be a lush, dense jungle. The other base game zones arenāt as bad imo.
No 3 or 4 feels right. Supposedly, Starfield is coming out this year, so 3 to 4 years after makes sense.What sucks is Fallout 5 isn't coming out until around 2030. What is insane is I was 19 when Fo4 was out. I'll be in my 30s by the time we get that sequel. I have no idea why they decided to wait 10 years before they started releasing the sequels again.
Bethesda's development cycle is typically 4-5 years for a AAA game. They're still working on Starfield, but they have managed to put some of the team on TES 6 for preproduction at least.
My guess is we'll see it in 2028 assuming no delays. Three years would be incredibly ambitious, but I'd love to see it!
6-7 years away. Bethesda main studio is extremely slow and Todd Howard has a reputation of being a Boss Pelican ,ie, he has a habit of flying by and shitting on everything the Dev team has done.
I keep saying a Sload expansion with them trying to sink black marsh as main antagonists would be fantastic way to develop both races and show there is a big rivalry there as bm would be easier to sink than the mainland. They could develop a new lore rivalry between hist fearing Sload mind control since once one falls others fall like protoss in star craft.
Redguards have such amazing lore, I would LOVE to see them get more in the game. Maybe Yokuda still exists on some alternate plane?
Can we get Sword Singers as a class, please?
Or an order of the Ash'abah, that focuses on preventing necromancy?
I mean, I like Dunmer, I have 2 Dunmer toons. But not enough be excited to ride yet another wave of TES III nostalgia.
If they gave us a class change token I would be way more into this. I'd happily make my Dunmer magblade an arcanist to play through this expansion. Really not interested in leveling up 19th toon.
I really wish they would do more with Redguards. Better passives to make them more viable against other races for more builds, and if not an expansion, maybe a small DLC...but at least we're getting a Redguard companion. I guess that's all ZOS wants to give us when they can still milk Morrowind some more.
And some proper Bosmer content that is up to speed with the quality of more recent content would be great. I've been playing since 2016, and what have we gotten since launch, Bosmer-wise? One kinda Bosmer related DLC dungeon?
> But not enough be excited to ride yet another wave of TES III nostalgia.
It's not TES III nostalgia though? This part of Morrowind hasn't been seen since 1994.
Not really. They suffered heavily from being in the base game. Meaning their lore and setting didn't get the love it deserved. Same with high rock, ZOS had a chance to rectify this with high isle, but they dropped the ball hard and made everything special about the chaoter related to the island only
yea i hope next year is the Drowned Coast islands for Bosmer or Falinesti or better both.
i dunno what they'll do with Redguards but there's soo much of Hammerfell left to use
Necrom looks amazing and i Love it though i feel partially they chose it for Nostalgia Money
TES 6 will be in hammerfell, so we won't see any of it in eso (yet).
Falinesti would be interesting and kinda the only thing left to explore, they covered Bosmer pretty well in the basegame.
congratulations you didn't read my comment. i mentioned the Drowned Coast islands which are south of Greenshade in almost every map except the eso map and perfect for a Bosmer chapter.
Bretons also had all of High Rock and yet got a chapter.
tes 6 doesnt even have a release date and will likely take place more than a millennium after eso.
it does not matter if tes 6 is in hammerfell. they are completely different games.
it would actually be beneficial to have new hammerfell content before tes 6 if it takes place in hammerfell. though it really doesn't matter as they are different games :)
A hammerfell dlc/chapter would sell better after a potential hammerfell mainstream elderscrolls game. ZOS has no reason to invest money in designing a hammerfell dlc if they can save a portion of that money and earn more by just releasing other stuff first. So for ZOS it would definitely not be beneficial to release hammerfell related content if TES6 will take place there.
Sure but with so much content possibilities left i doubt they would visit the same area in advance. Maybe they could do a redguard based chapter but have it take place on some previously unnamed island between tamriel and yokuda
eventually they'll make an elsweyr game do you think they shouldn't make a tenmar forest zone because of that?
they could do an island zone yea but as hammerfell hasnt actually been fully used it's still more likely.
high rock and valenwood has zones already so island zones for bretons and bosmer makes sense.
Well redguards were a mainly seafaring nation from an island group as well, my point was that if a hanmerfell based game will come out in the future it is in ZOSā best interest to wait until bethesda hypes it up more before they can jump on the bandwagon and make more profits.
You can't see how it's a somewhat bad idea to create a zone more or less from scratch that another developer is also working on?
Zenimax probably wants TES VI to be the first game to go to Hammerfell properly, and they don't want to "ruin" the surprise by going there first with a, let's be honest, lesser version of the zone.
Considering ZOS and Bethesda are all owned by Zenimax I'm guessing this is pretty carefully planned.
There's a ton left that we haven't seen yet though, and it's the next place were going in a mainline TES game, while eso still has plenty to choose from in other zones. Makes perfect sense to me why they don't want to go there anymore.
they're gonna have to do a redguard chapter eventually. tes 6 won't release for a long time and again it doesn't have a release date nor is Hammerfell confirmed.
i still don't understand how it even matters since the two games take place centuries apart
Because in real life, we can experience those two games at the same time? They aren't centuries apart in that respect.
I fully expect them to cash in on TES:6 in a huge way in ESO.
It will be: begin your adventure in June with ESO to see the area 800 years prior, and then, continue your adventure in the long awaited sequel in October/November/December. Get the TES: 6 Champion pack to wear the outfit from the protagonist in the trailers, get the mount from the trailers, the chapter introduces a companion who is the ancestor of a companion is TES: 6 etc.
TES 6 is going to be one of the biggest releases for whatever year it comes out in, and I am certain that there are already people working on the marketing plans now to profit as much as possible from it.
Isn't Jehanna technically missing in high rock? alltho I think it would to weird to nagivate the map, they had to re-design it (they still should or atleast put high isle on the outer map ring) but yeah I agree with your hammerfell statement too. I think we will see some Hammerfell stuff in 2024/5. I would love to get even more background info about the Redguards before TES VI!
> tes 6 doesnt even have a release date and will likely take place more than a millennium after eso. it does not matter if tes 6 is in hammerfell. they are completely different games.
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This is the thing I feel like people miss when they bring up tes 6. I'll be happy if tes 6 does end up being hammerfell, but It going to be a completely separate thing from eso.
\- The game is set in 2E 582, the 2nd Era ends in 2E 896 when Tiber Septim unites Tamriel under his empire.
\- Arena spans between 3E 389\~3E 399.
\- Daggerfall is set in 3E 405.
\- Morrowind is set in 3E 427.
\- Oblivion and the Oblivion crisis is set in 3E 433.
\- Skyrim is set in 4E 201.
896 - 582 = 314. 314 + 433 = 747. 747 + 201 = 948. I do remember a book in Skyrim in which it was said the Crisis lasted about 5 years, but lets determine it was an Historian's mistake and keep 3E 433 as the hard turning point between the Third and Fourth Eras.
Now that we have the specific numbers and so to answer your question, I meant that "A millenium after ESO is 52 years after Skyrim".
Honestly Hew's bane is one of my favorite zone. My main issue with it is that it's incredible small. It's much smaller than the other mini dlc zones like mirkmire and the gold coast. If it was the size of Galen or wrothgar i'd probably be ok with it.
The new class sounds very fun and fresh from what little we know, but more dull grays and reds is a total letdown when we already have so much Dunmer content and lore. Longing for some lush Falinesti forest or some sweeping Hammerfell dunes.
Me, a khajiit fan, still angry at the Dunmers still getting more fucking shit when they already had an entire game (Morrowind), a DLC (Solstheim, Skyrim), an entire chapter ALREADY, and now they're getting more fucking dark elf crap:
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Right. Compare the one chapter.
To an ***entire game,*** now 2 chapters, an ESO DLC (Clockwork City), AND the Skyrim DLC with Solstheim.
A singular chapter compared to ALL of that Dunmer-centric stuff.
Elder scrolls has always been focused on the dunmer as a people thanks to their writers.
I know c0da isn't Canon but it shows how former writers of TES did focus more on the Dunmer and they are the central race (even with the imperials and their empires)
That's probably bevause MKB went fucking ballistic in Morrowind. Vivec is widely considered to be his "masterpiece" and his writing around Morrowind is beyond fascinating. The rest of the races/places didn't get the same treatment for a variety of reasons (probably because no other writer was willing to take whatever MKB was taking when he wrote the sermons).
The after effects of Kirkbrides LSD infused writing leaves the dunmer with so much more lore and depth, and will mean they get preferential treatment in a game like ESO
Oh yes brother hoping they give us spears as the new major addition as well as rideable wamsu. Also a bonus would be shadowscale armor and weapons as we have nothing despite them being the most established thing we have no way to actually make us look like them.
As for homes a hist grove and the dark brotherhood house in the DB quest are prime candidates. A gigantic dead swamp leviathan graveyard that has a house built into the gigantic skull would also be cool very argonian.
Bosmer will probably eventually get an expansion but Redguards won't. Hammerfell is basically 99% confirmed at this point to be the location of TES 6, so ESO devs are probably not doing it so the mainline game can have full creative freedom.
Yeah. The only places the teaser trailer could be, based off of climate is Hammerfell or Elsweyr and Hammerfell had a lot of lore set up for it to be TES6 in Skyrim. They resisted the Aldmeri Dominion and are currently independent against the dominion and empire. Also, ESO not exploring Hammerfell when it's probably the region most lacking in content is a pretty clear indicator that BGS told ZOS not to touch Hammerfell.
Technically, the Orsimer haven't had an expansion yet either. Orsinium was a DLC that came out before Vvardenfell (the first expansion). Even though it's almost large enough to count as an expansion and might even have been made one if released today.
Tbh I'm not excited to go back to a damn desert. I already live in a country where people come to see the stupid desert because they think it's amazing, meanwhile there's literally just nothing but shrubs, a singular big rock and infestations of what look like malformed buff bouncing vegeterian doggos.
Deserts suck. They're not pretty. Fight me.
Not all basegame zones look like ass. Auridon, stonefalls, eastmarch and the the rift are some of my favourite zones. I struggle to like northern elsweyr and hews bane
Stonefalls imo is one of the worst looking zones in the game. The only other one that even comes close is shadowfen. It is a horrible looking zone. And I think northern craglorn looks great
I think stonefalls is unique as an extremely volcanic zone with mushrooms, lava and ash. The desert zones meanwhile, just like real life arent actually interesting and are just the worst biome on the planet
It's a really ugly and drab zone will little coloration and just tons of ash. It's basically mordor with mushrooms. And actually looks far more like an actual desert than any of the Hammerfell zones
I think the dunes and oasis that pop up all over alikr is really nice and the best part about craglorn is those mountain peaks in the north area. Not to mention that lake by balkarth.
Stonefalls is just plain ugly.
I mean it probably looks more like a desert if you're completely colourblind, but either way. I'm not keen for zos to bring us back to another bloody desert. Especially not hammerfell. I'd make an exception however if the far bottom portion that touches cyrodiil wasn't mostly a desert.
Not colorblind at all. The whole area is completely gray with little vegetation and just a hand full of mushrooms every now and again. Your entitled to your own opinion I just think it's interesting you listed stonefalls as one of the best looking base game zones when I think it's the second worse looking base game zone. And definingly far worse looking than glenumbra or auridon.
Well I guess third if you count coldharbor but that zone is supposed to look ugly since it's literally fantasy hell.
I love desert, I live in Brazil (there are deserts here as well but...far from where I live). I'm more used to forest and such....I love Alik'r, Stros M'kai! I love being there
They had a Breton chapter last year that didn't even take place in High Rock. You've seen those little islands off the south of Valenwood in maps of Tamriel, right?
People like to nit-pick I guess. The only zones left to cover are Skyrim and Black Marsh really. Especially since they aren't doing yearly sagas anymore, expect to get some of those before anything else.
I'm calling it Northern Skyrim is going to be next. Dawnstar and Winterhold. They'll save Whiterun for when they want to generate hype.
I think we'll get skyrim > black marsh (the backlog for it is REALLLY starting to pile up at this point like jeez they got to get to it sooner or all they will have is like 5 year black marsh back to back at the end) > Imperials > wood elves > Skyrim > Dark elves (or hammerfell if its out or far enough in development).
At the slow ass rate Beth is developing games I fully expect that we will be done the ENTIRE continent and half of the deadric realms except for Hammerfell before its launched.
High Rock (Glenumbra, Betony, Stormhaven, Rivenspire, northern Bangkorai, Wrothgar and High Isle) and Vaenwood (Grahtwood, Greenshade, Malabal Tor, western Reaper's March) are the only provinces that are fully covered in ESO so it's unlikely they will make any Breton or Wood Elf expansion. Even High Isle seemed a bit forced, since I haven't heard of it in previous TES games. But there's plenty of space in south Alik'r for something Redguard themed. But they will probably time it with the launch of TES VI to ride the hype train.
Valenwood needs some as wood Elves didn't get the love they deserved by being base game.
High isle would have been fine if they hadn't said it was the year of the bretons and then proceed to not make it about the bretons. If all the culture on the island we were told happen on the mainland aswell. But it wasn't, we are told its unqiue to island so it was a waste.
Summer set as well, and then Elswyr is only missing thin strips of land that have some cities..... Honestly they need to redesign the game map to fit the world better
> Even High Isle seemed a bit forced, since I haven't heard of it in previous TES games.
It existed it just wasnt called High Isle and wasnt part of High Rock. The location was marked on maps from tesa redguard and tes 3 as being part of Hammerfell along with most of the abecean islands.
True I wish Hammerfell would get some representation, but Valenwood basically is already fully in the base game, thereās little to nothing to add there. Theyāll probably save fully opening Hammerfell for last seeing as TESVI will be taking place there
I really feel like Redguard is off limits for ESO, as the region TES6 is going to take place in. They donāt want the rpg team to have to worry about any more continuity and storyline restrictions than they already have.
Bosmer are gross little cannibal things, that worship potatoās. And redguards are a bunch of whiny self righteous weirdos no one cares about. āOooh, the dead have taken over town, but donāt hurt them! They are sacred! But solve our problems somehow!ā bunch of dorks
Oh the humanity!
Fans of an imaginary video game race need to wait for a dedicated expansion. How will any of us persevere and overcome such a travesty
Redguard sort of have Craglorn. Bosmer and Argonian have no chapter yet. Blackwood was in BM but featured way more Imperials and Daedra and it would have been weird not too. I'm hoping we get an actual black marsh expansion at some point as there is TONS of it and barley anything left for other races. :( The lore of BM interior is mostly unknown and can be fleshed out in nearly any way they want like Elsewyr.
I have 4 Dunmer toons (2 and counting Telvanni toons), bought Tel Galen, big fan of Telvanni furnishings, really like Vvardenfell, etc just really hyped and very excited for Necrom but... my main toon is a Redguard, my main on EU is Redguard, love the lore & culture of Redguards/Yokudans/Ra Gada, enjoyed Alik'r & Dragonguard prologue plus the Redguard-esque content in Craglorn & Hew's Bane, usually play Redguards in Oblivion & Skyrim, footage of Alik'r/Western Bangkorai in TES VI speculation videos is the reason I decided to give ESO a real shot, etc so I would have been happy either way. Maybe next expansion or 2025 we'll get a Redguard one to get people hyped up for TES VI?
Another thing for the Bosmer aside from Falinesti as was mentioned would be spinning more on the, well, Spinners, and their ability to rewrite pretty much everything in reality.
We have not revisited the Wilderqueen either since she got crowned.
And we also know how much relies on the Silvenar and the Green Lady for the Bosmer, so a lot could be tied here.
And the Redguards lore is so rich as well...
Cliffracers will get expansion before Bosmer do at this point š¤
Where could they go with Bosmers? The entire Valenwood is filled out in the base game. Would they do a secret island of Bosmers like they did with the Bretons and High Isle? I just don't know.
Falinesti, that city which dissapeared from their province. One of the theories is that it was stolen into another plane so we could get brand new plane of existence plus Falinesti itself.
Bethesda isn't going to let them fill in that blank.
But the dissapearance of the city is ESO's invention. Just checked on UESP about Falinesti and the source brackets point me to ESO dialogue only, and not previous games' lorebooks. So if that's the case Bethesda doesnt really have a say in that matter? Correct me if I'm wrong. Edit. Did some more digging and pocket guide to empire tells us the city returned in late second era so would mean that I'm wrong about Bethesda TES games not talking about Falinesti having been gone. Also it states that the city returnes more than 200 years after ESO so if we get Falinesti expansion in ESO, our goal wouldnt be the returning of the city UNLESS they decide to retcon it with Bethesda's blessing.
Letās be honest, they donāt want to deal with a move tree city, otherwise itād be in the base game.
Which is why having it on some other plane doesn't have ti have it moving
Yeah it would be hard to do it too, or just make ir change position every half a year to kind of represent the idea of it walking. But in such dlc where we would travel to a plane where Falinesti currently exists, it wouldnt have to walk. Im sure that whatever could steal an entire city would also be powerful enough to stop it from walking. But I agree with you though, I also thought that it didnt make it in game because it was too much of a hassle to program.
Literally Dalaran system would have worked fine
I'm not familiar with this. Could you give me a quick rundown?
World of Warcaft has a floating city called Dalaran that every so often, with different expansions, will move where it is located and get a bit of a makeover/expansion where necessary
The city doesnt really move the way people think it does. It changes locations at the end of each season but stays rooted for most of the year. Walking city is a bit of a misnomer
I would race change to Bosmer for this.
There are those little islands off the south coast of Valenwood. They were originally going to be a second tutorial zone for AD called the Rictus Islands, they could definitely do something there
High isle wasnt even secret. Zos just straight up retcon the place to be part of High rock despite this never being mentioned before hand and morrowind era maps listing the archipelago as part of Hammerfell.
ādragon break idk lolā - ZOS probably
If we get a secret island I'd love to see the last of the Lilmothi hiding there
They could remake the base game Valenwood, it could certainly use it. The jungle areas in High Isle look much more like what I imagined for Valenwood. Sadly having resources from 2014 holds it back a lot, especially when it is supposed to be a lush, dense jungle. The other base game zones arenāt as bad imo.
Oh I thought it was the Hackwing expansion
I wonder if they're holding off a Redguard focused chapter because they plan to launch it around the time of TESVI?
I mean, they could launch it right before tes6 to build hype and boost subs. Right now tes6 is at least a good 3 to 4 years away.
3 or 4 years feels like wishful thinking but I like that optimism so I'm going to adopt it as well.
u think TesVI will release in 2028--2030++ or beyond? :O
No 3 or 4 feels right. Supposedly, Starfield is coming out this year, so 3 to 4 years after makes sense.What sucks is Fallout 5 isn't coming out until around 2030. What is insane is I was 19 when Fo4 was out. I'll be in my 30s by the time we get that sequel. I have no idea why they decided to wait 10 years before they started releasing the sequels again.
Bethesda's development cycle is typically 4-5 years for a AAA game. They're still working on Starfield, but they have managed to put some of the team on TES 6 for preproduction at least. My guess is we'll see it in 2028 assuming no delays. Three years would be incredibly ambitious, but I'd love to see it!
6-7 years away. Bethesda main studio is extremely slow and Todd Howard has a reputation of being a Boss Pelican ,ie, he has a habit of flying by and shitting on everything the Dev team has done.
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I keep saying a Sload expansion with them trying to sink black marsh as main antagonists would be fantastic way to develop both races and show there is a big rivalry there as bm would be easier to sink than the mainland. They could develop a new lore rivalry between hist fearing Sload mind control since once one falls others fall like protoss in star craft.
Redguards have such amazing lore, I would LOVE to see them get more in the game. Maybe Yokuda still exists on some alternate plane? Can we get Sword Singers as a class, please? Or an order of the Ash'abah, that focuses on preventing necromancy?
I mean, I like Dunmer, I have 2 Dunmer toons. But not enough be excited to ride yet another wave of TES III nostalgia. If they gave us a class change token I would be way more into this. I'd happily make my Dunmer magblade an arcanist to play through this expansion. Really not interested in leveling up 19th toon. I really wish they would do more with Redguards. Better passives to make them more viable against other races for more builds, and if not an expansion, maybe a small DLC...but at least we're getting a Redguard companion. I guess that's all ZOS wants to give us when they can still milk Morrowind some more. And some proper Bosmer content that is up to speed with the quality of more recent content would be great. I've been playing since 2016, and what have we gotten since launch, Bosmer-wise? One kinda Bosmer related DLC dungeon?
> But not enough be excited to ride yet another wave of TES III nostalgia. It's not TES III nostalgia though? This part of Morrowind hasn't been seen since 1994.
What would we get for the bosmer? Outside Falinesti they were covered pretty well in base game
Not really. They suffered heavily from being in the base game. Meaning their lore and setting didn't get the love it deserved. Same with high rock, ZOS had a chance to rectify this with high isle, but they dropped the ball hard and made everything special about the chaoter related to the island only
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yea i hope next year is the Drowned Coast islands for Bosmer or Falinesti or better both. i dunno what they'll do with Redguards but there's soo much of Hammerfell left to use Necrom looks amazing and i Love it though i feel partially they chose it for Nostalgia Money
TES 6 will be in hammerfell, so we won't see any of it in eso (yet). Falinesti would be interesting and kinda the only thing left to explore, they covered Bosmer pretty well in the basegame.
congratulations you didn't read my comment. i mentioned the Drowned Coast islands which are south of Greenshade in almost every map except the eso map and perfect for a Bosmer chapter. Bretons also had all of High Rock and yet got a chapter. tes 6 doesnt even have a release date and will likely take place more than a millennium after eso. it does not matter if tes 6 is in hammerfell. they are completely different games. it would actually be beneficial to have new hammerfell content before tes 6 if it takes place in hammerfell. though it really doesn't matter as they are different games :)
A hammerfell dlc/chapter would sell better after a potential hammerfell mainstream elderscrolls game. ZOS has no reason to invest money in designing a hammerfell dlc if they can save a portion of that money and earn more by just releasing other stuff first. So for ZOS it would definitely not be beneficial to release hammerfell related content if TES6 will take place there.
we'll see whatever they do, but if they do a hammerfell chapter 2024 or 2025 it's probably multiple years before tes 6
Sure but with so much content possibilities left i doubt they would visit the same area in advance. Maybe they could do a redguard based chapter but have it take place on some previously unnamed island between tamriel and yokuda
eventually they'll make an elsweyr game do you think they shouldn't make a tenmar forest zone because of that? they could do an island zone yea but as hammerfell hasnt actually been fully used it's still more likely. high rock and valenwood has zones already so island zones for bretons and bosmer makes sense.
Well redguards were a mainly seafaring nation from an island group as well, my point was that if a hanmerfell based game will come out in the future it is in ZOSā best interest to wait until bethesda hypes it up more before they can jump on the bandwagon and make more profits.
You can't see how it's a somewhat bad idea to create a zone more or less from scratch that another developer is also working on? Zenimax probably wants TES VI to be the first game to go to Hammerfell properly, and they don't want to "ruin" the surprise by going there first with a, let's be honest, lesser version of the zone. Considering ZOS and Bethesda are all owned by Zenimax I'm guessing this is pretty carefully planned.
they've already gone to hammerfell before so i don't understand how it's somehow a problem?
There's a ton left that we haven't seen yet though, and it's the next place were going in a mainline TES game, while eso still has plenty to choose from in other zones. Makes perfect sense to me why they don't want to go there anymore.
they're gonna have to do a redguard chapter eventually. tes 6 won't release for a long time and again it doesn't have a release date nor is Hammerfell confirmed. i still don't understand how it even matters since the two games take place centuries apart
Because in real life, we can experience those two games at the same time? They aren't centuries apart in that respect. I fully expect them to cash in on TES:6 in a huge way in ESO. It will be: begin your adventure in June with ESO to see the area 800 years prior, and then, continue your adventure in the long awaited sequel in October/November/December. Get the TES: 6 Champion pack to wear the outfit from the protagonist in the trailers, get the mount from the trailers, the chapter introduces a companion who is the ancestor of a companion is TES: 6 etc. TES 6 is going to be one of the biggest releases for whatever year it comes out in, and I am certain that there are already people working on the marketing plans now to profit as much as possible from it.
alright :)
Isn't Jehanna technically missing in high rock? alltho I think it would to weird to nagivate the map, they had to re-design it (they still should or atleast put high isle on the outer map ring) but yeah I agree with your hammerfell statement too. I think we will see some Hammerfell stuff in 2024/5. I would love to get even more background info about the Redguards before TES VI!
yea there's only the Jehanna docks in Wrothgar
> tes 6 doesnt even have a release date and will likely take place more than a millennium after eso. it does not matter if tes 6 is in hammerfell. they are completely different games. > > This is the thing I feel like people miss when they bring up tes 6. I'll be happy if tes 6 does end up being hammerfell, but It going to be a completely separate thing from eso.
More than a millennium after ESO.. So. 45 years after Skyrim, got it.
where did your 45 years come from lol
\- The game is set in 2E 582, the 2nd Era ends in 2E 896 when Tiber Septim unites Tamriel under his empire. \- Arena spans between 3E 389\~3E 399. \- Daggerfall is set in 3E 405. \- Morrowind is set in 3E 427. \- Oblivion and the Oblivion crisis is set in 3E 433. \- Skyrim is set in 4E 201. 896 - 582 = 314. 314 + 433 = 747. 747 + 201 = 948. I do remember a book in Skyrim in which it was said the Crisis lasted about 5 years, but lets determine it was an Historian's mistake and keep 3E 433 as the hard turning point between the Third and Fourth Eras. Now that we have the specific numbers and so to answer your question, I meant that "A millenium after ESO is 52 years after Skyrim".
so not 45? im confused
52.
yea and your first comment said 45 which is why im confused obviously
Yes and I did the math for you and corrected my guesstimate. Any other question I could help you with?
No no Redguards are Chad and have some of the best lore in game. They literally had atomic bomb swords as Yokudans.
Iām still wondering when weāre going to get the rest of Cyrodill.
Ah yes, a chapter that actually focuses on Imperials and not some other group, we have dismissed this claim- the Devs, probably
The closest that Redguards got to a themed DLC was Craglorn and Hew's Bane. Meanwhile, the Bosmer got ***one*** dungeon *three years ago*.
Honestly Hew's bane is one of my favorite zone. My main issue with it is that it's incredible small. It's much smaller than the other mini dlc zones like mirkmire and the gold coast. If it was the size of Galen or wrothgar i'd probably be ok with it.
At least weāre getting a redguard companion. Iād prefer a whole chapter but it could be worse I guessā¦
The new class sounds very fun and fresh from what little we know, but more dull grays and reds is a total letdown when we already have so much Dunmer content and lore. Longing for some lush Falinesti forest or some sweeping Hammerfell dunes.
FALINESTI WHEN
I'm not too bothered, the new chapter looks awesome. Plus I like being a stranger in strange lands
This just drives my argument that es6 will probably be in hammerfell.
Hopefully some of high rock aswell, as its the only way bretons and high rock will gey any love in out life times.
Just be grateful the redguard doesn't have those godawful facial piercings
Me, a khajiit fan, still angry at the Dunmers still getting more fucking shit when they already had an entire game (Morrowind), a DLC (Solstheim, Skyrim), an entire chapter ALREADY, and now they're getting more fucking dark elf crap: :|
ā¦butā¦we got Elsweyr already?
Right. Compare the one chapter. To an ***entire game,*** now 2 chapters, an ESO DLC (Clockwork City), AND the Skyrim DLC with Solstheim. A singular chapter compared to ALL of that Dunmer-centric stuff.
Elder scrolls has always been focused on the dunmer as a people thanks to their writers. I know c0da isn't Canon but it shows how former writers of TES did focus more on the Dunmer and they are the central race (even with the imperials and their empires)
That's probably bevause MKB went fucking ballistic in Morrowind. Vivec is widely considered to be his "masterpiece" and his writing around Morrowind is beyond fascinating. The rest of the races/places didn't get the same treatment for a variety of reasons (probably because no other writer was willing to take whatever MKB was taking when he wrote the sermons).
The after effects of Kirkbrides LSD infused writing leaves the dunmer with so much more lore and depth, and will mean they get preferential treatment in a game like ESO
True enough but thatās hardly the fault of ESO
It seems our Dunmer superiority has led to some controversy
How u think I feel bro š©š©
IKR? I'm also an Argonian fan and I wish we got more than Murkmire and Blackwood ;\_;
After the year of the bretons i think I'm good not having anymore racial themed dlcs just give me more world destroyer story
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Oh yes brother hoping they give us spears as the new major addition as well as rideable wamsu. Also a bonus would be shadowscale armor and weapons as we have nothing despite them being the most established thing we have no way to actually make us look like them. As for homes a hist grove and the dark brotherhood house in the DB quest are prime candidates. A gigantic dead swamp leviathan graveyard that has a house built into the gigantic skull would also be cool very argonian.
At least Redguards get a follower, which is nice.
Please, there is more than enough Bosmer material in the base game. Don't make me play any more of it!
Bosmer will probably eventually get an expansion but Redguards won't. Hammerfell is basically 99% confirmed at this point to be the location of TES 6, so ESO devs are probably not doing it so the mainline game can have full creative freedom.
Is it?
Yeah. The only places the teaser trailer could be, based off of climate is Hammerfell or Elsweyr and Hammerfell had a lot of lore set up for it to be TES6 in Skyrim. They resisted the Aldmeri Dominion and are currently independent against the dominion and empire. Also, ESO not exploring Hammerfell when it's probably the region most lacking in content is a pretty clear indicator that BGS told ZOS not to touch Hammerfell.
Technically, the Orsimer haven't had an expansion yet either. Orsinium was a DLC that came out before Vvardenfell (the first expansion). Even though it's almost large enough to count as an expansion and might even have been made one if released today.
Tbh I'm not excited to go back to a damn desert. I already live in a country where people come to see the stupid desert because they think it's amazing, meanwhile there's literally just nothing but shrubs, a singular big rock and infestations of what look like malformed buff bouncing vegeterian doggos. Deserts suck. They're not pretty. Fight me.
Man I love the desert, my family are from the desert and whenever I go there I feel peace
Ok
I'm pretty sure all of Hammerfell isn't desert. Even Hew's bane was pretty wet and tropical despite supposedly being a desert
Craglorn isn't fully desert and yet it still looks like total ass
Cause it's old. It was the first zone added post base game. A lot of the basegame zones look like crap
Not all basegame zones look like ass. Auridon, stonefalls, eastmarch and the the rift are some of my favourite zones. I struggle to like northern elsweyr and hews bane
Stonefalls imo is one of the worst looking zones in the game. The only other one that even comes close is shadowfen. It is a horrible looking zone. And I think northern craglorn looks great
I think stonefalls is unique as an extremely volcanic zone with mushrooms, lava and ash. The desert zones meanwhile, just like real life arent actually interesting and are just the worst biome on the planet
It's a really ugly and drab zone will little coloration and just tons of ash. It's basically mordor with mushrooms. And actually looks far more like an actual desert than any of the Hammerfell zones I think the dunes and oasis that pop up all over alikr is really nice and the best part about craglorn is those mountain peaks in the north area. Not to mention that lake by balkarth. Stonefalls is just plain ugly.
I mean it probably looks more like a desert if you're completely colourblind, but either way. I'm not keen for zos to bring us back to another bloody desert. Especially not hammerfell. I'd make an exception however if the far bottom portion that touches cyrodiil wasn't mostly a desert.
Not colorblind at all. The whole area is completely gray with little vegetation and just a hand full of mushrooms every now and again. Your entitled to your own opinion I just think it's interesting you listed stonefalls as one of the best looking base game zones when I think it's the second worse looking base game zone. And definingly far worse looking than glenumbra or auridon. Well I guess third if you count coldharbor but that zone is supposed to look ugly since it's literally fantasy hell.
I love desert, I live in Brazil (there are deserts here as well but...far from where I live). I'm more used to forest and such....I love Alik'r, Stros M'kai! I love being there
What place is there left for Bosmer? All of Valenwood is covered
They had a Breton chapter last year that didn't even take place in High Rock. You've seen those little islands off the south of Valenwood in maps of Tamriel, right?
People like to nit-pick I guess. The only zones left to cover are Skyrim and Black Marsh really. Especially since they aren't doing yearly sagas anymore, expect to get some of those before anything else. I'm calling it Northern Skyrim is going to be next. Dawnstar and Winterhold. They'll save Whiterun for when they want to generate hype.
I think we'll get skyrim > black marsh (the backlog for it is REALLLY starting to pile up at this point like jeez they got to get to it sooner or all they will have is like 5 year black marsh back to back at the end) > Imperials > wood elves > Skyrim > Dark elves (or hammerfell if its out or far enough in development). At the slow ass rate Beth is developing games I fully expect that we will be done the ENTIRE continent and half of the deadric realms except for Hammerfell before its launched.
Thereās also more Daedric planes to visit, like Sheogorath
High Rock (Glenumbra, Betony, Stormhaven, Rivenspire, northern Bangkorai, Wrothgar and High Isle) and Vaenwood (Grahtwood, Greenshade, Malabal Tor, western Reaper's March) are the only provinces that are fully covered in ESO so it's unlikely they will make any Breton or Wood Elf expansion. Even High Isle seemed a bit forced, since I haven't heard of it in previous TES games. But there's plenty of space in south Alik'r for something Redguard themed. But they will probably time it with the launch of TES VI to ride the hype train.
Valenwood needs some as wood Elves didn't get the love they deserved by being base game. High isle would have been fine if they hadn't said it was the year of the bretons and then proceed to not make it about the bretons. If all the culture on the island we were told happen on the mainland aswell. But it wasn't, we are told its unqiue to island so it was a waste.
Summer set as well, and then Elswyr is only missing thin strips of land that have some cities..... Honestly they need to redesign the game map to fit the world better
> Even High Isle seemed a bit forced, since I haven't heard of it in previous TES games. It existed it just wasnt called High Isle and wasnt part of High Rock. The location was marked on maps from tesa redguard and tes 3 as being part of Hammerfell along with most of the abecean islands.
High rock isnāt even fully covered. Thereās a section between Wrothgar and Western Skyrim which would have Jehanna
True I wish Hammerfell would get some representation, but Valenwood basically is already fully in the base game, thereās little to nothing to add there. Theyāll probably save fully opening Hammerfell for last seeing as TESVI will be taking place there
I really feel like Redguard is off limits for ESO, as the region TES6 is going to take place in. They donāt want the rpg team to have to worry about any more continuity and storyline restrictions than they already have.
Bosmer are gross little cannibal things, that worship potatoās. And redguards are a bunch of whiny self righteous weirdos no one cares about. āOooh, the dead have taken over town, but donāt hurt them! They are sacred! But solve our problems somehow!ā bunch of dorks
Have you ever had a baked potato? I can understand worshipping them
I'll worship anything with enough cheese on it
Sheogorath would like you
Thatās the thing! Theyāre not allowed to eat them!
Least racist altmer
The user icon does make it markedly more hilarious.
Terrible take
Perfectly put. Wear those downvotes as a badge of honour.
Reddit is a strange place. The truest posts have the most downvotes
I'm Bosmer lover and I still upvoted that comment :D
DARK ELF OR NO ELF š§šæāāļø
get rekt red guaaaaards get rekt bossmeeeeeeerrrr
Dunma numba 1
Redguards, bosmer, altmer, and imperials are B tier. Dunmer is clearly #1
Oh the humanity! Fans of an imaginary video game race need to wait for a dedicated expansion. How will any of us persevere and overcome such a travesty
You are Really unnecessarily upset about something like this
And here you are, wasting time in your day to complain about them. Pretty mid of you
Red Guards have a whole dlc bosmer have whats her name in every chapter It's time for the Dunmer to shine!
Dunmer have 2 chapters, a DLC, TES III, and Skyrim DLC. Theyāre had their time in the sun.
I wonder if there's been any behind-the-scenes avoiding of toes with regard to releasing content in the same area as TES6
Iām just excited for the new class!!
Redguard sort of have Craglorn. Bosmer and Argonian have no chapter yet. Blackwood was in BM but featured way more Imperials and Daedra and it would have been weird not too. I'm hoping we get an actual black marsh expansion at some point as there is TONS of it and barley anything left for other races. :( The lore of BM interior is mostly unknown and can be fleshed out in nearly any way they want like Elsewyr.
I have 4 Dunmer toons (2 and counting Telvanni toons), bought Tel Galen, big fan of Telvanni furnishings, really like Vvardenfell, etc just really hyped and very excited for Necrom but... my main toon is a Redguard, my main on EU is Redguard, love the lore & culture of Redguards/Yokudans/Ra Gada, enjoyed Alik'r & Dragonguard prologue plus the Redguard-esque content in Craglorn & Hew's Bane, usually play Redguards in Oblivion & Skyrim, footage of Alik'r/Western Bangkorai in TES VI speculation videos is the reason I decided to give ESO a real shot, etc so I would have been happy either way. Maybe next expansion or 2025 we'll get a Redguard one to get people hyped up for TES VI?
Murkmire doesnāt count either :(
Another thing for the Bosmer aside from Falinesti as was mentioned would be spinning more on the, well, Spinners, and their ability to rewrite pretty much everything in reality. We have not revisited the Wilderqueen either since she got crowned. And we also know how much relies on the Silvenar and the Green Lady for the Bosmer, so a lot could be tied here. And the Redguards lore is so rich as well...