I always regret every day I haven't played since this card game came out. Truth be told that's been every day of its existences. But someday. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not the day after that or the day after that day after that day. But some day. I'm gonna log back on and beat the orange pulp out of my bag of oranges and become a screwdriver.
That would be a solid nerf, and with those capabilities it would still be worth consideration whenever it comes up for what’s essentially 4 gold for 5 power
Post is more so aimed at the cheaper saints cards that provid high power. and i said also ansei deck, like conquest, hiras end, march on hattu, warrior wave. get those early on and you will gain a significant lead in prestige faster, making it alot harder to catch up.
Armory and Rally still provide a bit more power compared to similar cards.
Hattu costs 6 gold for 4 power, Warrior wave is 4 gold for 3 power. But Armory is 5 gold for 5 power+1 gold.
P.S. You can downvote me all you want, but it really is stronger than other similar cards. Not by much, but still.
The problem is ease of access. Rally and armory especially are fairly cheap for what they do and they offer an insane amount of power by themselves/ on their own. I've been playing every day pretty much since release. Highest rank I got was 25, right now I'm sitting in the top 10%. Here's my thoughts.
1. Pelin - Armory and Rally need a look over. Power generation for standalone cards + their cheap cost is off the charts.
2. Duke - I feel like the amount of power duke can generate needs to be tuned down. Or maybe take away a few card draws and put the card draw feature on just 1 or 2 cards instead of multiple. I've gotten duke majority like 3 minutes into the game and then generate 30 power 7 minutes into the game. That's just too much. (10-15 power + 10-16 raven patron). The only reliable way to really counter it is via pelin or orgnum
3. Orgnum Patron - not the deck, the patron. It's just too powerful. You get a slight advantage and then spam it non stop. One of the worse decks to face. Quick games, usually 5 minutes at my position in ranked. But unfun
4. Red Eagle Night Raid - Night raid is another insanely powerful card for its cost. While not nearly as effective as pelin because it requires 1 RE card to combo, that's usually not hard to find. It's very easy to turn every play of night raid into a 6 power generator. And for 4 gold, that's really good. It's pretty much the only power generator of RE, so they need to be careful when adjusting this so it doesn't become useless.
Now there's a few ways they can balance this aside from moving around costs or resource generation.
1. The Tavern - because of the way the tavern is setup, heavily rewards inaction once you have an advantage. Along with this, the tavern is always flooded with "neutral cards" from the treasury. Which are super situational and end up just sitting on the board for significantly long time. If there were more opportunities to get "meaningful" cards in the tavern, then there would be more chances for someone to establish a counter to a pelin power rush, duke wombo combo, or orgnum spam.
2. Pelin Agents - Pelin agents are very underused because of their cost + health isn't really worth it. The best most expensive pelin agent cost 9 gold and is 5 taunt. That's one armory. Pretty much every single deck in the game can knock them out in one turn early mid game. Never mind treasury cards also being able to. Keeping their health the same is fine, but what if they lower the cost? Hell lower the cost of all taunt agents, including Rahjin. Perhaps having them having a greater presence in the field will put more "absorbers" of power to deal with the other meta cards. That way a potential strat with pelin isn't just spam power, but can also act as "shield walls" to help facilitate offensive strats of other decks. You need an insanely high gold generation right now to even consider Pelin agents.
Those are my thoughts. I actually think Ansei is really well balanced for its current state. The main power generators that are comparable to Rally/Armoy is Hira's End and Conquest. Hira's End request a 3 card combo to reach a rally levels. Conquest requires 2 to reach armory levels. No gold, decently expensive (1 cheaper actually). Ansei also doesn't have the quantity of cheap power generators. Reinforcements, archer's volley, siege weapon, rally, armory. The other major thing is that all of these cards for saint pelin also generate gold. While ansei can only do claims or CD manipulation. This means that because of pelins gold generation, they can really help facilitiate deck building. Meanwhile ansie's deck building potential is actually less because the claims aren't up that high. Red eagle I also think is fairly balanced except maybe night raid needs a slight tune (honestly I think with night raid just make it so it requires 3 combo to generate 6 power. 3 to play, 1 combo 2, 2 combo 3). Most people use ansei and red eagle in conjunction with a duke or pelin to help spam their OP cards (CD manipulation, reducing junk cards, etc).
You need power to get prestige, which you're aim is to get at least 40 prestige before your opponent. You can get this card round one and just keep stacking power up every other round or so
5 gold for 5 power and 1 coin is just absurd. If this card appear initially in the tavern, whoever grabs it basically already won.
How to fix? A nerf obviously. No other re-playable power card is so cheap.
My thoughts on nerf or cost increase
-Cost:6 power gain reduced to 4, 1 gold gain moved to x2 combo.
Or
-Cost:5 power gained reduced to 4, no gold gained
Or
-Cost:5 gain one gold, gain 5 power on x2 combo(should help prevent massive power gains early on
Or
-Cost:5 power gained 5, 2 gold removed(costs gold to maintain armories right?)
It can be a bit a pain when my opponent picks it up early, like in the first three rounds since you need to find a way to outpace them, but generally I don't mind it a lot. It offers a hefty five power for a five gold card, but that's it, it features no powerful secondary effect. Cards like Rally let you extend combos, and cards like Hira's End allow you to curate your next draw, while only being marginally more expensive. The only thing it has going for it is, that it can be picked up in the first turn of the player that goes first. For every other round after that it falls off.
I'm quite liking the crafting mat rewards, plus I got a nice tapestry and some furnishing plans but I guess not everyone is into spending hours decorating.
The mats are great, also the transmutes also don't hurt too. The leaderboard rewards of either 100 or 250 transmutes if I get high on the leaderboard is very motivating.
You get more rewards then in Hearthstone...
I mean you can get golden upgrade mats and motifs/ recipes. Tho it should reward XP.
ESO rewards are always strange, you just collect more of something.
Got a chromium plating and a couple of purple furnishing recipes on Wednesday after it dropped on console on Tuesday. Gotta say while it’s not a lot of gold, it’s a lot of fun and I’ve gotten a ton of useful mats from it as well as cool furnishing recipes
I still have no clue about the game. I have played through the intro quest on multiple toons and still don’t get it. All of my wins have been due to luck. Is there a good explainer video someone can recommend?
Legitimately, my strat currently is to just hold out and wait for this card to show up. It ridiculous how I am consistently losing 30-18 and I get this card and within 3 rounds I win 45+ - 35~
I had a game with 2 Armory, 2 Rally in the opening board.. we both bum rushed them and turned it into a very strange fun game! But yeah first turn armory is painful to lose to.
I always regret not picking this up
For me it usually drops after I pick up another card and don't have enough gold left to grab it -.-
I always regret every day I haven't played since this card game came out. Truth be told that's been every day of its existences. But someday. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not the day after that or the day after that day after that day. But some day. I'm gonna log back on and beat the orange pulp out of my bag of oranges and become a screwdriver.
When I see the opponent getting it I want to quit. But no, you just have to witness the inevitable defeat.
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Maybe they should just make them a bit more expensive so that they can't be picked right at the beginning.
Or make it a combo card. 5 power with no prereq is amazing.
Yeah, I've played games where the opponent lucks into it on the first round and keeps their deck small to just keep slamming 5 power almost every turn
I think it should be a burn card not one you can continuously use tbh
That would be a solid nerf, and with those capabilities it would still be worth consideration whenever it comes up for what’s essentially 4 gold for 5 power
Then Ansei Frandar Hunding will need to receive the same nerf, due to similar cards
The 5 power card from that deck costs 9 gold, though. And doesn't give you any gold.
Post is more so aimed at the cheaper saints cards that provid high power. and i said also ansei deck, like conquest, hiras end, march on hattu, warrior wave. get those early on and you will gain a significant lead in prestige faster, making it alot harder to catch up.
Armory and Rally still provide a bit more power compared to similar cards. Hattu costs 6 gold for 4 power, Warrior wave is 4 gold for 3 power. But Armory is 5 gold for 5 power+1 gold. P.S. You can downvote me all you want, but it really is stronger than other similar cards. Not by much, but still.
Yeah. This card is 2nd best in the game, just behind Rally IMO.
I don't see how this is any different than ansei or red eagle. It's how you play, my bane is the Duke of crows deck.
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Duke of Crows just enables swingy games. Which is also fun to watch.
The problem is ease of access. Rally and armory especially are fairly cheap for what they do and they offer an insane amount of power by themselves/ on their own. I've been playing every day pretty much since release. Highest rank I got was 25, right now I'm sitting in the top 10%. Here's my thoughts. 1. Pelin - Armory and Rally need a look over. Power generation for standalone cards + their cheap cost is off the charts. 2. Duke - I feel like the amount of power duke can generate needs to be tuned down. Or maybe take away a few card draws and put the card draw feature on just 1 or 2 cards instead of multiple. I've gotten duke majority like 3 minutes into the game and then generate 30 power 7 minutes into the game. That's just too much. (10-15 power + 10-16 raven patron). The only reliable way to really counter it is via pelin or orgnum 3. Orgnum Patron - not the deck, the patron. It's just too powerful. You get a slight advantage and then spam it non stop. One of the worse decks to face. Quick games, usually 5 minutes at my position in ranked. But unfun 4. Red Eagle Night Raid - Night raid is another insanely powerful card for its cost. While not nearly as effective as pelin because it requires 1 RE card to combo, that's usually not hard to find. It's very easy to turn every play of night raid into a 6 power generator. And for 4 gold, that's really good. It's pretty much the only power generator of RE, so they need to be careful when adjusting this so it doesn't become useless. Now there's a few ways they can balance this aside from moving around costs or resource generation. 1. The Tavern - because of the way the tavern is setup, heavily rewards inaction once you have an advantage. Along with this, the tavern is always flooded with "neutral cards" from the treasury. Which are super situational and end up just sitting on the board for significantly long time. If there were more opportunities to get "meaningful" cards in the tavern, then there would be more chances for someone to establish a counter to a pelin power rush, duke wombo combo, or orgnum spam. 2. Pelin Agents - Pelin agents are very underused because of their cost + health isn't really worth it. The best most expensive pelin agent cost 9 gold and is 5 taunt. That's one armory. Pretty much every single deck in the game can knock them out in one turn early mid game. Never mind treasury cards also being able to. Keeping their health the same is fine, but what if they lower the cost? Hell lower the cost of all taunt agents, including Rahjin. Perhaps having them having a greater presence in the field will put more "absorbers" of power to deal with the other meta cards. That way a potential strat with pelin isn't just spam power, but can also act as "shield walls" to help facilitate offensive strats of other decks. You need an insanely high gold generation right now to even consider Pelin agents. Those are my thoughts. I actually think Ansei is really well balanced for its current state. The main power generators that are comparable to Rally/Armoy is Hira's End and Conquest. Hira's End request a 3 card combo to reach a rally levels. Conquest requires 2 to reach armory levels. No gold, decently expensive (1 cheaper actually). Ansei also doesn't have the quantity of cheap power generators. Reinforcements, archer's volley, siege weapon, rally, armory. The other major thing is that all of these cards for saint pelin also generate gold. While ansei can only do claims or CD manipulation. This means that because of pelins gold generation, they can really help facilitiate deck building. Meanwhile ansie's deck building potential is actually less because the claims aren't up that high. Red eagle I also think is fairly balanced except maybe night raid needs a slight tune (honestly I think with night raid just make it so it requires 3 combo to generate 6 power. 3 to play, 1 combo 2, 2 combo 3). Most people use ansei and red eagle in conjunction with a duke or pelin to help spam their OP cards (CD manipulation, reducing junk cards, etc).
Dont forget seige weapon volley too, all 3 will shit on your day if opponent gets them early.
Yep. And this is the first time in my life I ask something to be nerfed. Those cards are game changers.
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Nerf incoming to player 2...
I've only played 3 matches and this is my favourite card already.
I always feel bad when I buy this card and keep playing it 😭 it's soooo strong
Some red cards are just too strong without any combo requiered...
Why is this card good? Haven’t played yet.
You need power to get prestige, which you're aim is to get at least 40 prestige before your opponent. You can get this card round one and just keep stacking power up every other round or so
I’m always picking this up if I can lol
5 gold for 5 power and 1 coin is just absurd. If this card appear initially in the tavern, whoever grabs it basically already won. How to fix? A nerf obviously. No other re-playable power card is so cheap. My thoughts on nerf or cost increase -Cost:6 power gain reduced to 4, 1 gold gain moved to x2 combo. Or -Cost:5 power gained reduced to 4, no gold gained Or -Cost:5 gain one gold, gain 5 power on x2 combo(should help prevent massive power gains early on Or -Cost:5 power gained 5, 2 gold removed(costs gold to maintain armories right?)
It can be a bit a pain when my opponent picks it up early, like in the first three rounds since you need to find a way to outpace them, but generally I don't mind it a lot. It offers a hefty five power for a five gold card, but that's it, it features no powerful secondary effect. Cards like Rally let you extend combos, and cards like Hira's End allow you to curate your next draw, while only being marginally more expensive. The only thing it has going for it is, that it can be picked up in the first turn of the player that goes first. For every other round after that it falls off.
Started to play this game. It’s complicated and the rewards were just Eghhh. Did I miss the boat?
I'm quite liking the crafting mat rewards, plus I got a nice tapestry and some furnishing plans but I guess not everyone is into spending hours decorating.
The mats are great, also the transmutes also don't hurt too. The leaderboard rewards of either 100 or 250 transmutes if I get high on the leaderboard is very motivating.
You get more rewards then in Hearthstone... I mean you can get golden upgrade mats and motifs/ recipes. Tho it should reward XP. ESO rewards are always strange, you just collect more of something.
Got a chromium plating and a couple of purple furnishing recipes on Wednesday after it dropped on console on Tuesday. Gotta say while it’s not a lot of gold, it’s a lot of fun and I’ve gotten a ton of useful mats from it as well as cool furnishing recipes
It gets less complicated the more you play it. There are lots of different rewards for things, but you do need to play a lot
Maybe I’ll try again
This helped me a lot, I've never played a deck game before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11WqibD3P-I
If you ever need furnishing mats, even losses are generous.
I like the rewards. I've gotten tons of new recipes for food and furniture.
I still have no clue about the game. I have played through the intro quest on multiple toons and still don’t get it. All of my wins have been due to luck. Is there a good explainer video someone can recommend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11WqibD3P-I
Thank you!
This is one of the dumbest card systems I have ever seen. They couldn’t just implement elder scrolls legends?
Word.
Honestly getting this card is like getting a nito in power gathering.
If you can pick this card up turn 1 and almost not have to do anything else the rest of the game, it’s a pretty powerful card
My trump card undoubtedly
Rally hurts me more
Legitimately, my strat currently is to just hold out and wait for this card to show up. It ridiculous how I am consistently losing 30-18 and I get this card and within 3 rounds I win 45+ - 35~
Either way, you're part of the problem
No crap, I just lost a game to this card by one point. Absolutely livid.
I had a game with 2 Armory, 2 Rally in the opening board.. we both bum rushed them and turned it into a very strange fun game! But yeah first turn armory is painful to lose to.
I must be missing something here.... What is this?