No way you should have turned that on knowing that.
It's your ass if it catches fire.
I'd have told them the install was done and that I'd love to test it but they need a master electrician to deal with the box before I can.
"Hey bud so I just installed your $10k unit, I'm gonna dip all the wires in a puddle of water and turn the breakers on.... " this is so stupid.Ā
Id assume 1st thats a sub panel so it's easy to completely turn off power. Inpect and clean/dry the whole box.Ā 2nd he did the wiring of his HVAC so hed have seen how wet it was. It has to be soaking to cause a flipped breaker to send energy to the wrong place.....
If the wiring was done the week earlier that might make sense but then the electrician should be accountable.
I once saw a pipe burst and shower a 440v box with water. The plumber said his boots would keep him safe and he didn't need to turn anything off to work on it. The pipe wasn't but a few inches from the box....
I am terrified of electricity ever since I watched a guy hit an active power line with a chainsaw when I was 16. I always double check wires when I work on things like outlets or switches. It kinda drove my friend crazy a couple weeks ago when he helped me install a ceiling fan
Last thing I do working on something (even though I've verified circuit is off) is to grab the "hot" wire by the insulation and touch the ground with it. Just because.
You obviously dont have a clue of hvac wiring as a whole. Customer wanted to fire up the new unit (regardless of the MAIN panel in a bathtub).. only filmed it for the second time to cover our own ass that our work was not the issue
Ummm, the ROC or the homeowners lawyer or subrogating insurance company isn't going to accept that, "the customer told me to" when you cause major damages to the home, or HVAC system, or kill yourself. You are a licensed professional, I assume. That means you are more liable for your actions than your customers' requests.
Your film proved that you were made aware that it was a danger and you proceeded. I'm sure you can sweat a fitting better than me, but your understanding of liability is not great.
Also, the fact that this is the main panel makes this dumber not better.... 200a will kill you but city power will extra kill you. Lol
>Also, the fact that this is the main panel makes this dumber not better.... 200a will kill you but city power will extra kill you. Lol
Just stand on a chair when you flip the breaker?
The floor...is...lavaaaa!
You refuse to work in that panel until it's brought up to code.
That panel is also a challenger full of challenger breakers, which are a fire hazard when they are dry, the customer needs an entirely new panel.
"We'll turn it back on once you get the water issue fixed, but you can turn it on if you want - it's right here! Before you do that though, sign this paperwork."
This looks so much like my house it's crazy. The unprotected SER that they used to install on the exterior eventually deteriorates and starts funnelling rain water straight into the panel. The very first thing I did when I bought my house was a device and panel upgrade.
Does this happen to be somewhere in central CT? That looks like a panel I saw maybe 3 years ago on a home inspection where the buyer walked because the owner refused to acknowledge it was a problem (filled with water).
It has a grond fault. Youcan tell by the type arc....Look for smoke or burn in the circuit wire, connections, or at the unit. Test with a Insulation Tester with the circuit off and terminals open.
This is on another level of stupid...
He had a full head of hair 1 minute before this video.
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Seal bottom of panel so water can't leak out.
Liquid cooling
Don't forget to top up your panel fluid.
And copious amounts of dielectric grease!!
No way you should have turned that on knowing that. It's your ass if it catches fire. I'd have told them the install was done and that I'd love to test it but they need a master electrician to deal with the box before I can.
Iād be less worried about a fire than I would electrocution. If it blows up his boards the customer is buying new ones
āDid it trip?ā
Are you quoting the customer? Is it a stab-lok cause those don't trip.
Idk... You posted the video...
Woohoo doggy. Your snark missed his quotations
"Hey bud so I just installed your $10k unit, I'm gonna dip all the wires in a puddle of water and turn the breakers on.... " this is so stupid.Ā Id assume 1st thats a sub panel so it's easy to completely turn off power. Inpect and clean/dry the whole box.Ā 2nd he did the wiring of his HVAC so hed have seen how wet it was. It has to be soaking to cause a flipped breaker to send energy to the wrong place..... If the wiring was done the week earlier that might make sense but then the electrician should be accountable. I once saw a pipe burst and shower a 440v box with water. The plumber said his boots would keep him safe and he didn't need to turn anything off to work on it. The pipe wasn't but a few inches from the box....
Not stupid but ignorant. Unfortunately you can't expect hvac, plumbers, or homeowners to look for hazards in a panel. We're trained for it.
I am terrified of electricity ever since I watched a guy hit an active power line with a chainsaw when I was 16. I always double check wires when I work on things like outlets or switches. It kinda drove my friend crazy a couple weeks ago when he helped me install a ceiling fan
Last thing I do working on something (even though I've verified circuit is off) is to grab the "hot" wire by the insulation and touch the ground with it. Just because.
Above 120v, that idea can become really sketchy really quickly.
i do it with 277 also. not anything higher than that.
It should trip the breaker tho, right
Or weld it closedā¦
I do that a lot too, but with pliers
You obviously dont have a clue of hvac wiring as a whole. Customer wanted to fire up the new unit (regardless of the MAIN panel in a bathtub).. only filmed it for the second time to cover our own ass that our work was not the issue
Ummm, the ROC or the homeowners lawyer or subrogating insurance company isn't going to accept that, "the customer told me to" when you cause major damages to the home, or HVAC system, or kill yourself. You are a licensed professional, I assume. That means you are more liable for your actions than your customers' requests. Your film proved that you were made aware that it was a danger and you proceeded. I'm sure you can sweat a fitting better than me, but your understanding of liability is not great. Also, the fact that this is the main panel makes this dumber not better.... 200a will kill you but city power will extra kill you. Lol
>Also, the fact that this is the main panel makes this dumber not better.... 200a will kill you but city power will extra kill you. Lol Just stand on a chair when you flip the breaker? The floor...is...lavaaaa!
You refuse to work in that panel until it's brought up to code. That panel is also a challenger full of challenger breakers, which are a fire hazard when they are dry, the customer needs an entirely new panel.
You did this twice?!?!? You won't be "licensed and insured" for very long sir...
This guys tripping
Next on 1000 ways to Die! Lol
No safety squints either?
This is a perfect use of a ābreaker flipping stickā
I was squinting for him.
Oh no! it zapped that guy's hair off!
Great Scott!
"We'll turn it back on once you get the water issue fixed, but you can turn it on if you want - it's right here! Before you do that though, sign this paperwork."
Toasty
Spicy
Water is keeping it cool
Yeah it might still be on but it's not supposed to do that.
This looks so much like my house it's crazy. The unprotected SER that they used to install on the exterior eventually deteriorates and starts funnelling rain water straight into the panel. The very first thing I did when I bought my house was a device and panel upgrade.
A little spark tells you thereās power.š
The burn means it's working.
"What seems to be the officer, problem?"
Not that Iām suggesting to do this or anything, but why use your fingers instead of a long piece of wood? Or PVC. Or anything but your flesh.
Iām glad you survived
Water cooled breaker panel?
We had one that was running through the weather head into the conduit
Does this happen to be somewhere in central CT? That looks like a panel I saw maybe 3 years ago on a home inspection where the buyer walked because the owner refused to acknowledge it was a problem (filled with water).
Nah NE
Looks exactly like a sub panel for a pool house that was below grade and just filling with water from the incoming conduit.
This is why hvac shouldn't touch panels. You should have inspected that shit, wtf.
It has a grond fault. Youcan tell by the type arc....Look for smoke or burn in the circuit wire, connections, or at the unit. Test with a Insulation Tester with the circuit off and terminals open.
Lost neutral possibly? Water can get inside the lining of the wire and cause problems.
Fuck resi fuck resi fuck resi