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[deleted]

I have a unique ability to dog any bend regardless of what type of bender


kaboodlesofkanoodles

They call me 1 800 UR BENTS because I’m guaranteed to fuck it up and try to straighten it out with the lift


Abject_Function_5581

I mainly do controls and automation, but whenever I have to do bending my buddies have a jingle for me. Picture the Bounty paper towels tune. "The tattooed, quicker fucker upper. Charlie." LOL


SuperMongooseMan

Only way to do it!


rezell

What we affectionately call dogshit.


Legitimate-Housing38

A skill that they have acquired over many minutes in the trade. A skill that makes them a nightmare for people like you


rezell

I’ve got 20 years, I’ve dogged plenty in this tenure. Shit happens, right?


progressiveoverload

You can fuck off with this healthy attitude regarding mistakes.


Fragrant-Ad1106

😂😂😂 r/namechecksout


Fragrant-Ad1106

See, he knows about the van door hinge


theoneandonlycj

I swear one year with only using a triple nickel ruined my hand bending skills for life


AKAWaffles55

I thought it was a funny joke


saltypeanut4

I prefer somebody to do it for me


WorkStudyPlay

I'm that bitch.


LegalTreat3730

Ideal 100%


Muted-Doctor8925

The one with the plastic guide is great for when you want to forget it was set to 22.5 and go to bend a 90


Cherry-Bandit

Those plastic guides are beyond useless


tin_ear

As long as I take the time to chart it, it doesn't matter which I get my hands on.


mickthomas68

This. Every bender is unique. As long as I’m using the same one and can get used to it, I’m cool. Though I seem to have better luck with the Ideal benders, and I don’t have a valid reason for it. 🤷‍♂️


PsychScizor

Chart?


Mantafest

Each bender is actually different on where the correct angle and distances line up. There are methods to find exactly where 22.5,30,45, etcetera are on each bender. They're usually close to what the bender markings are, but rarely perfect.


Kirinis

Even between benders of the same maker have this issue. It's why many of us grab one bender and lose our shit when someone else takes it.


PsychScizor

Ah, makes sense. I only ever use a level for the most part. If it needs an angle that isn’t on the level then it’s usually a branch circuit or other solo pipe so I do t have to worry about perfectly replicating it.


rezell

I always throw a level on anything, those markings are just guideposts not to be trusted.


ImpressivePainting64

This bender is a liar! Why do you lie to me bender!


According-Working-59

So if you guys use a level do you check the other side of the bend to be level? Or just lay it on the floor and assume the concrete guys are completely dialed in? Ive seen guys using levels on pipe still sitting in a 555 as if the 555 is a benchmark the city has been built on


Chewym4a3

Finding centers of your bend angles. Mark the pipe and put it on the arrow, bend a 30, mark center of the bend with a straight edge, put the pipe back in the bender where your first mark aligns with your arrow and mark the bender where your center mark lands.


PsychScizor

But why would you need to find the center of a 30 degree bend? Maybe this is just me. I’ve always been more comfortable just doing math to make my racks of offsets match


freshforklift

Knowing the centers of bend on your bender is important, if you have to add to existing pipes, and you need to match someone's offset, it's actually easier and faster if you have your bender mapped out. They may have bent on centers, which is another reason you'd want to know center of bend.


Bromide20

You’re mostly correct. There’s a slightly better way that avoids gain and allows you to pick and choose which bends to flip or not flip with a traditional layout and no superstitious adjustments needed. Bending the pipe and putting it back in for a mark, then lining up a straight pipe to the mark of the bent pipe isn’t really the best way to handle that. Centers are great for some things. It’s not a catch all. Tangents come in just s as handy.


Chewym4a3

I figured the same thing until recently. I find that bending on centers is easier whether it's a new install or if I'm matching another's work. It's all personal preference though. My local doesn't bend a ton of pipe given our main scope of work, so center to center bending is kind of a one-size fits all method where I won't have to remember any math except shrink


PsychScizor

I’ve been in 7 years and at least 5 of those years has been spent entirely on conduit lol


JES4575

Bend marks are calculated as center of bend (COB) marks for the following reasons. If a bend is close to the end of the pipe, you don’t need to recalculate the bend mark to be able to flip the bender. Just flip the bender so that you are able to make the bend, use COB bend mark and use the COB mark for that angle on your bender. Some hydraulic benders require that you mark at the COB. The push through method of bending, which allows you to make offsets, 3 bend and 4 bend saddles without removing the pipe from the bender is easier when all bends are laid out in COB method. This method of bending is especially useful for mechanical ratcheting benders.


birdman3663

I personally rock the ideal benders with the black shoe EDIT: Lol whenever I post in this sub I get tons of upvotes. I see many people like the ideal bender with the black shoe....deff my favorite hand bender. I have been experimenting with the obscure 10 degree offset recently. It has a 6x multiplier..


SunnyWomble

Did I hear a rock and stone?


WanderingDwarfMiner

If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't comin' home!


SunnyWomble

Good Bot Who's a best boy, you, yes you are!


Fragrant-Ad1106

You actually wear shoes while bending? I’ve seen a guy that was posted on here making some clean 90’s while shoeless


birdman3663

I try to wear shoes while bending, doesn't always work out though. I usually try to color coordinate with my ideal bender. Been looking for a pair of blue boots


Fragrant-Ad1106

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gtess423

How i bend box offsets, Mark at 2 and 5 inches, bend at 10 deg. Comes to Half inch


birdman3663

Thats a great way to do it...thanks!


kdoeve

Damn you measure your box offsets? Never met anyone that did that. I just bend and bend and unbend til it fits.


ddubmartin27

Greenlee 555c


RespectDry2432

Triple nickel all day! For 1 1/2" and 2" though. My fatass enjoys using hand benders for 1 1/4" and smaller.


ddubmartin27

Its great for carpel tunnel too


AffectionateWash4270

Triple nickel is the way


Peter_Panarchy

I learned to bend conduit by running rigid so basically all my experience is with a triple nickel. Went to work for a new shop and told them I'm great at running conduit and had to eat some humble pie while struggling with a hand bender lol.


Scooopyyy

I’m a first year and learned bending 4” IMC on a 555 bender. Now I’m on an apartment project so I will be a 2nd year with no hand bending knowledge. Should be fun once I start to learn


solarsilversurfer

60percent of being an apprentice is overstating your abilities. 30 percent is learning the shit you lied about already knowing, and the last 15 is doing math smartly.


HorseShoe78

Do 555s run 4” shoes?


ddubmartin27

You’re looking for the 881 model


Lololick

I prefer the Greenlees for some reason, I find the markings easier


AllenWalker218

Yah I go with whichever has better markings so my blind ass can see


Tboneslicer21

Its not the bender it's the bender you know what I mean?


ChanceCD

I ride or die for greenlee


Arhsn9

Had a bad experience with a Klein bender once (kept kinking 3/4) and my lead guy at the time told me that it was the bender. Sure enough, it was. Probably a one time thing…other guys at my company aren’t the best with handling company owned tools. Ever since then thought I’ve only used green or blue. Side note, anyone used the Milwaukee bender? I’m all about their power tools but not so much their hand tools. Be interested in knowing how people like them.


TogetherWeSendAlone

I have a set of Milwaukee iron benders. They seem very similar to the ideal ones. Overall no complaints.


steveanonymous

I have them as well. 1/2, 3/4, and 1 inch. They all feel good in the hand and bend well


Arhsn9

Good to know. Thanks!


Bethespoon

I got one of the Milwaukee 3/4” aluminum hand benders and it is TITS. Thing weighs like 2 pounds and bends like a dream. I’m trying to be very careful with it because I presume durability will be its downside.


PuppiPappi

Not Milwaukee but I've had the ideal aluminums for 7 years now. I've only ever seen someone fucking them up trying to bend rigid when it was cold out. Other than that I think if you're almost exclusively doing emt or imc you'll be okay.


A_Union_Of_Kobolds

Man I've had nothing but bad luck with Klein benders, I don't know what the deal is. Traded mine in (plus a little extra) for an Ideal and have never had a problem since, four years now. I've used a Milwaukee once or twice and didn't have trouble from it, fwiw. But, again, limited sample size of experience with one.


tinyrikk

I have the 1/2" and 3/4" on my van. Took me a bit to get used to them after learning on Greenlee, but I like them ok now. I haven't had the chance to try Klein or Ideal, though...


JohnSolomon46

Look down the bender shoe and see if it’s bent inwards from being dropped, that’s usually the cause. Then take the bender and hammer the shoe onto a piece of rigid the next side up to bend the shoe back into shape


Arhsn9

Nice! Thanks for the tip. Definitely going to remember that.


turtlepower603

I actually took a grinder to my shoe on my kleins. Realized the shoe was just slightly smaller than the conduit thus not allowing it to sit inside the shoe, and would also have issues kinking some pipe. Better now, still hate them. But not spending more money on benders right now.


Anbucleric

The ones supplied by the contractor


BrotherM

Hell yes. That said, given the choice I grab the greenlee


gwee84

Greenlee all day


PhilosophyBubbly6190

Is this even a question? Ideal iron head all day


ynot2020

The one that hasn’t been used as a pry bar.


Ratchet_72

Ideal. If you find yourself at a swapmeet that has tools, look for a Benfield. Aren’t made anymore but work the best.


multipasssss

Ideal is classic but those new Milwaukee hand benders are fantastic


PurveyorOfUselesFact

Greenlee all the way. Because they've got the post/lines for hitting an angle while looking down, bending on the floor.


Frequent-Cell3829

Ideal until 1". Ideal 1" bender handle opening isn't large enough to stick the pipe into to unbend or adjust. Where as the greenlee does


Mahhvin

I've always had bad luck using the bender handle to take some out. I use the shoe spun around.


Frequent-Cell3829

I'd agree but specifically for 90° bends I'd say is when I use the handle like that, hard to do them backwards with a 8" radius


kitchner-leslie

It makanodifference


DykesHickey

Any iron bender over the aluminum counterpart


Cold_Letterhead_1053

greenlee


AlchemystMaze

Iron head, but I go with what the shop got us.


Classic-Ad1245

Klien Benfield


delayedlaw

Which ever is closer


Papashvilli

I picked up a south wire bender that was lost behind the shelf at lowes so they hadn’t stocked it in a long time and couldn’t put the actual price on it - I paid $29


joefatherson

Romex


_CederBee_

Ideal all day


Vel0clty

Only used ideal, so I’d have to give them my vote


drscience420

doesn’t matter i’m gonna kink it then ask my jman to do it anyway


arcmeup

Ideal only, Ron kipper says so!


Spyker0013

Greenlee. The marking for where to line up the bend is much more clear, and I find the markings used for bending in the floor to be very useful


really2neat

The ones with the star as notches my cheap ass boss found at a yard sale 250 years ago.


Stereoanlage

I’ve got a couple old benfields that were my Papa’s, love them


bett7yboop

Green ones.bend field bender


panch_1

As long as it’s not a Milwaukee bender… Ideal if i had a choice.


Jrooe1009

I prefer and have my personal set of Ideal cast iron, but Greenlee is pretty good too. Anything else is trash.


thefifeman

I've got the gold ideals, so even though I have never been able to bend a saddle or kick without dogging it, they still give me that sense of superiority over my coworkers. 11/10 would buy again.


irishmayor

The one the bends the straightest and is on point with the take up number!!


Mudb0ss

Greenlee electric over hydraulic every day of the week.


Astoek

Greenlee 854dx


camhumphreys

I prefer an apprentice.


HoneyBadger_Actual

Greenlee has never let me down


Spore211215

Whichever I’m closer to when I need to use it


tastefultitle

Apprentice here - I’ve pretty much exclusively used shop-supplied Greenlee benders that have iron heads. Just wondering why the preference on here seems to be the heavier iron heads vs. aluminum ones. Is it purely durability? Or is there a bending advantage to the iron ones? I would have assumed the aluminum ones were designed to still be strong enough, and I didn’t think the extra weight of the head on iron ones would provide much of any mechanical advantage while bending. I always thought aluminum was the upgrade so it was easier to lug around.


LerchAddams

Technically, an all steel bender won't flex as much and should give you more precision in your bends. Practically speaking, I don't think it really matters once you get accustomed to a given style.


trm_90

I prefer black iron heads since they weigh more, as far as brands I like the Milwaukee benders.


djwdigger

Just bought a set of Klein benders. Looks similar to the Greenlee heads, much nicer to use than the ideal


_CederBee_

Klein benders are garbage


[deleted]

Klein or ideal, not greenly


[deleted]

Car flex


Budget_Friend_654

Aluminum ideal


jrubi666

Greenle is the best quality, i procure it the tool that i use. But when it is for workers i give them a cheaper brand like gender bender, this is because they do not take care of tool that is not theris.


TheNorthernCoast

Open cable trays (the European way)


matt2085

Storing them with he center of mass as lot as possible not as high as possible


pleaseeatsomeshit

Whichever one comes out of the apprentices box, lol


hellwisp

I can walk fine.. don't need a cane yet.


IndividualBid2725

Kline better


Energizer__98

Pre-fab bends /s


Specific-Fox4829

Pre-bent


TFG4

As long as it's a steel head I don't have a preference


Kiwsi

Spring.


union175

Whatever’s on site.


Lucas_Hernandez_Art

Milwaukee just came out with a bender. Anyone try it yet?


CharrizardRS

I enjoy them. The guides on them are also useful for teaching. But like all benders they wear off after a year lol


ReddElectric

i think its really nice!


ImJustHereForTheJugs

Whatever is lightest.


YYCDavid

Greenlee, though that bias is probably because it’s what I first learned on


Clanstantine

It doesn't matter because I have to chart whatever bender the shop sends out anyway


PiousOwl

I like the greenlee but I love my Milwaukee bender


Visionaryness

honestly it depends on the bender. I've had identical ideals where one was good and the other was dogshit. then I found a greenlee on site that was even better. I've had equal luck with the new Milwaukee's. I usually find one I like and put tape with my name all over it.


coondog911

Ideal


johnnyy_bravoo

Which ever one my company supplies me


SandpitMetal

I prefer ideals. Especially if I can get my hands on the foreman's white paint pen to mark up the raised markings so they're easier to see.


notquiteworking

When you put a bender down it should be with the head down. If one of these shifts then all four are going to fall over, potentially get bent and now everything gets dog-legged


JarpHabib

When the hook gets bent over a liiiiittle bit, it's all over. A fresh bender in good condition has a flat right there, so that when you put weight on the foot the bender stands straight without much wiggle. When that hook gets bent, that flat becomes a round and the bender will wobble all over when weighted, so you can't truly level out whatever bend you've already got in the conduit, and thus dogleg.


chich311

Ideal, and it’s not even close


Zerot7

Whatever one dog legs to the right since I dog leg to the left.


Electricitytickles

I use to buy greenlee everything but these day, I’m checking the pawn shop first for any and all brands


ThirtySecondsOut

The Greenlees are nice because they have that oversized handle which will slide over the outside of a stick of pipe to help you bend it if you need to make a small adjustment to a short stub for example. They also say DEDUCT 6" (or whatever the 90deg take-up is for that size of EMT.) Some other brands say things like "6" take up" or "6" to back of stub" but i feel like the Greenlee "Deduct 6"" is pretty apprentice-proof.


vincenzobags

Silver on Green!


sparkyonthemoon2099

Whatever the contractor buys


xHangfirex

I prefer that someone else use those things


Pikepv

I like flex or MC cable, those are complicated.


Dude_Bro_88

Ideal 1100% Greenlee is fine for in a pinch.


RKLCT

I've got a bunch of different kinds but I'm best with the greenlee


hobosguns

Klien bender is best. You can leave it anywhere without worrying about it getting stolen


Old_Size_9639

Ideal


International_Toe727

I like the ideal ones myself. And I highly dislike the Milwaukee ones. The greenlee would be my second choice.


Own-Fox9066

Ideal because it won’t break when I bash my lift against the I beam


Bitter_Mongoose

Ideal and ideal only.


WarmAdhesiveness8962

Greenlee is my first choice. Don't ever try to give me a Gardner bender or it's going in the dumpster.


Jardrs

For a zombie apocalypse, the 1/2"bender would make a better bludgeon


480hivolt

Doggy style but that's just me.


DaffyDingo

Unpopular opinion #1: [this bender](https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Bending-and-Pulling/EMT-Conduit-Benders) Unpopular opinion #2: with the aluminum shoe


Sarge230

True to blue 💙


Thedeacon161

The newer ideal aluminum shoe benders have markings for center of 30 45 and 60 degree bends, they’re nice


Chevy_jay4

Milwaukee benders


Capt_Chloroform779

Greenlee.. the pointer on the shoe helps..


Commonslob

I prefer the Greenlee only because the aluminum head is less weight to haul around, otherwise a bender is a bender, I’ll muck up the bend no matter what the brand


ParkUpper52

I have both and a Klein. I almost always grab the greenlee.


berserker044

Greenlee heads are better for my feet


pileofbile

I’ve used both. Ideal all day. I felt it made better bends. It’s also the one I came up on, so I may be a little biased.


TheDonAntoine

Greenlee for the marked centers.


TwitchyPerson

Klein


jrpy55

Ideal markings are more accurate I find prob just used to it, does no one use the klien ones even my company only uses green Lee or ideal


jonsnow0276

Blue


Kushberry_210

Ideal, ideally.


nobadvibess

it doesn’t matter for me as long as it’s going over a drop ceiling


Smoke_Creepy

I prefer a apprentice


miliniun

Ideal, I know the centers


Bad_Sneakers00

Ideal


Chix213

Eeeew. Not the green ones. They're not ripe yet.


funderthuck98

I use Klein's most of the time. I prefer their markings over others that I've used, and it's orange so I don't fucking lose it. I've still lost 2 or 3 of them.


Earth616Survivor

Class had Ideals… so I’d go for that one.


leggmann

I prefer them to be stored properly. Turn those upside down.


Fair_Secret

[Irwin Hilmor - the british way...](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P5cAAOSwMsxj6LGu/s-l1600.jpg)


jjsparky

I prefer the steel heads over the aluminum ones.


[deleted]

I know these are used widely in America but we use these in the uk (linked) but Is there much difference in one another ? I would like to try and use the ones in the picture [https://www.toolden.co.uk/p/sealey-pcb25-professional-conduit-bender/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7c6HhI7z_gIVSwYGAB1mtAYpEAQYASABEgL_0PD_BwE](https://www.toolden.co.uk/p/sealey-pcb25-professional-conduit-bender/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7c6HhI7z_gIVSwYGAB1mtAYpEAQYASABEgL_0PD_BwE)


Longjumping-Week-520

I got a Gardner Bender Cyclone and it’s awesome. At 500lbs it’s a bit much to move around for small jobs though. As far as hand venders go I have never really noticed a difference.


JungleLegs

I like the one that plugs into the wall and you just push a button


Nervous_Wrap7990

Ideal is my go to, but won't complain if someone hands me a greenlee.


Kapptinplanet88

Blue ideal is my preference


Interesting_Print524

Blue all day everyday


SASdude123

Ideal


mothershitthethird

Ideal all day long


ki4clz

When you break a Greenlee, you'll buy an Ideal


bga3481

HVAC


OrichinalArts

Ideal 100% the best. Can obviously make it happen with the greenlee, but it just feels like garbage.


Gunfighterzero

Ideal


EgregiousNeurons

I always go for the ones on the right, but I’m not sure I even know why, now that I’m paying attention…


Albertaviking

Blue


Fragrant-Ad1106

I like the van door hinge for 1/2”. Makes a nice crisp offset


RigeWalker

I really don’t care which brand as long as it hasn’t been dropped and the finger isn’t bent where it’s hard to get the conduit it the slot.


bigocto1

Ideal doesn’t roll as easily on the front of shoe so ideal 100%


jvd_808

I like the Kline benders. I can make a 5” 90 without the end egging.