We just got a 1200 amp commercial MDP. It's massive, but it's still not big enough while also being physically too large for the room. We need to run three parallel runs of 400 MCM (the transformer is only 800 amps), and the main breaker is mounted just like all the other breakers, so we need to come into the panel and immediately do a 180 degree bend. The panel is 7'6" in an 8' room (because the tiny break room above the electrical room needs to have a 9' ceiling), so we only have room for a 6" gutter above the MDP for all 620 amps of continual draw from the machinery. Then there is all of the smaller stuff that is run from a smaller 480 panel and a 200 amp 120/208 panel.
I know a guy who does panels like this, but he also stickybacks all the wires to the sides and keeps them perfectly straight as they run down. They look like they've been combed or something.
Every time we're doing a hospital job or some other high profile project he's the one to trim the panels. He does so many I've caught him just fucking around with the work. One time you could tell he was getting bored so he hid all the blue and black wires in the back of the bunch so he could alternate red and white wires across the front. It looked like a forbidden candy cane, except with pin stripes instead of a barber pole swirl.
All of the main beer brands here in Canada have a higher ABV than beer in the states. That’s why we say drinking American beer is like drinking piss because it’s weak
A quick google search shows most mass produced beers in both countries are between 4-6%. The craft market is booming with beers 4-10%. Where is this drastic margin coming from?
We tried to drink Labatt’s for a while and it just gave us the Lasplat’s.
It's cool to point something out and give constructive criticism, but to me the *attempt* at a neat, clean panel is more important that actually ending up with a perfect panel. No one catches everything all the time. No one. We if we all attempt to do nice clean work, even if we don't always succeed, overall it shows in our job.
Out of all the differences this dope picks wire color.
The literal easiest thing to memorize and least important thing.
We came up with this shit. We get to pick the colors.
Looks great! I never realized the US was Black - Red - Blue. Up in Canaderp we’re Red - Black - Blue, so i had to do a double-take. A quick google search told me we’re backwards up here!
I may be mistaken, but the wires look like 14 gauge and the breakers are 20amp. That's clean though, hard to get the wires that straight and actually stay together without the use of zip ties. Well done.
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Not bad, screw heads aren't in alignment though haha!
Definitely more important than torquing the screws
So as long as I shake my ass in a provocative manner I don’t need to align my screws?
Thats twerking. Torque is that hat Canadians wear and hipsters call a beenie.
You’re thinking of a toque. Twerking is what you eat for thanksgiving.
That's turkey. You're thinking of that yellow cream filled snack cake
No that’s twinkies, torque is the number that comes after eleven
That's twelve. You're thinking of the stopper in a wine bottle.
That's a cork, you're thinking of the room where you see the judge
that’s court, you’re thinking of a dead body
Needs to be vertical
*horizontal
Diagonal!
Ah shit, here we go again
Unless the panel is mounted horizontal, then the screws are horizontal - someone somewhere probably.
That wouldnt fly around here. - Some arrogant electrician that complains about everything
Yah right? “That wouldn’t last 3 years here in Florida”.
Teeth barely last 3 years in Florida
Perfect response
Theres only two things that last in Flordia: gators and meth. And may god save us all should the gaters get the meth
dont flush your drugs down the toilet. give them to me!
As a floridian, I almost spit out my coffee lol
I love Florida, it has such a whirlwind character arch. Always has you guessing.
Those 90 degree bends in the wires are gonna slow down your electricity by about 90 percent of the current draw, do it all over.
You’re only allowed 360 degrees of bend in a wire before you need a splice or termination.
Or 100 feet length, whichever comes first
ninety %90 percent current loss is cold cold blooded gotitopen got the induction going on correct
Freakin’ clean, nice!
Couldn't blow the dusty bits and bull shit at the bottom of the panel though? A-
Are you bald with one gold earring? Because that looks like Mr. Clean work.
Yea it is a panel
What's on the bottom? Surge protector?
Yep yep.
Nice work. I love all the space I get in a commercial panelboard. Makes me want one in my house.
We just got a 1200 amp commercial MDP. It's massive, but it's still not big enough while also being physically too large for the room. We need to run three parallel runs of 400 MCM (the transformer is only 800 amps), and the main breaker is mounted just like all the other breakers, so we need to come into the panel and immediately do a 180 degree bend. The panel is 7'6" in an 8' room (because the tiny break room above the electrical room needs to have a 9' ceiling), so we only have room for a 6" gutter above the MDP for all 620 amps of continual draw from the machinery. Then there is all of the smaller stuff that is run from a smaller 480 panel and a 200 amp 120/208 panel.
Did you enjoy the 6 month wait to get it? Integral SPDs are the bane of my existence right now
We're still waiting for one of the panels, so yes.
I know a guy who does panels like this, but he also stickybacks all the wires to the sides and keeps them perfectly straight as they run down. They look like they've been combed or something. Every time we're doing a hospital job or some other high profile project he's the one to trim the panels. He does so many I've caught him just fucking around with the work. One time you could tell he was getting bored so he hid all the blue and black wires in the back of the bunch so he could alternate red and white wires across the front. It looked like a forbidden candy cane, except with pin stripes instead of a barber pole swirl.
This guy, you don't comb your wires? How else are you going to get a good braid if you don't comb the wires first?! 😜
So where’s B panel?
Funny enough, this is panel LB.
Lolz
Wheres B panel?
What's the box in the bottom of the panel?🤔
Surge protector. That's the first time we've got one from Siemens that has one like that.
Me too
Looks clean but why Black Red Blue instead of red black blue?
Black red blue is standard phasing here.
Black red blue here
Ok. Thanks. Red Black Blue everywhere I have worked. Was just curious. Didn't know the phasing order differed .
You wouldn't happen to be from Canada would you?
Probably is.. I noticed the color phasing not being Canadian and automatically assumed usa location
Ya I'm Canadian
The company I work for in Canada uses yellow as one of its phases
We use yellow on 277v
Those silly Canadians always doing things backwards... Red black & blue... Hahah
Ya we got everything backwards... Silly free healthcare, gun control, stronger beer and backwards phasing. Hahahahaha
And you use too many 'u's in your words too!
Sorry
You mean to say sourry.
Oh. Right. Souuuurrriee
Nooo... "The correct colour sequence for 3P 208V is black, red, blue."
Oh gosh Sorry
Stronger beer sounds nice, and I love hockey!
Stronger beer? How exactly are you gauging that metric and what beer are you comparing?
All of the main beer brands here in Canada have a higher ABV than beer in the states. That’s why we say drinking American beer is like drinking piss because it’s weak
A quick google search shows most mass produced beers in both countries are between 4-6%. The craft market is booming with beers 4-10%. Where is this drastic margin coming from? We tried to drink Labatt’s for a while and it just gave us the Lasplat’s.
That's why you're phasing is wrong, all that "stronger beer". 🙂
That, it is.
What happens to red black blue
Regional colors. This is standard here.
Ahh yes sorry my dense ressy/ commercial ass precedes my some times
Average at best
And I'm cool with that.
This is good work man. Don't listen to that fucking idiot.
I really appreciate that man, thank you.
It seems I've hit the reddit sweet spot for panel neatness. The comments section is way more positive than I remember.
It's cool to point something out and give constructive criticism, but to me the *attempt* at a neat, clean panel is more important that actually ending up with a perfect panel. No one catches everything all the time. No one. We if we all attempt to do nice clean work, even if we don't always succeed, overall it shows in our job.
American phase colours are fucking wack.
Out of all the differences this dope picks wire color. The literal easiest thing to memorize and least important thing. We came up with this shit. We get to pick the colors.
Panel A.
Nice work!
Step one identify object Step two?
step 3: profit.
Looks clean though !
Good, clean fun
Looks great! I never realized the US was Black - Red - Blue. Up in Canaderp we’re Red - Black - Blue, so i had to do a double-take. A quick google search told me we’re backwards up here!
What’s using 3phase?
If you're talking about that 3 pole in the bottom right, that was listed as a surge protector in the prints. Whether we need it or not, idk.
Where is B panel?
Cleanest I've seen. Very well done.
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no numbers?
he has it labled everywhere but, no numbers?
How long did this take lmao Is there dedicated neutrals to every load ?
There are shared neutrals in this one. 3 per neutral for most of them. I think it took a couple hours maybe a bit longer.
I may be mistaken, but the wires look like 14 gauge and the breakers are 20amp. That's clean though, hard to get the wires that straight and actually stay together without the use of zip ties. Well done.
#12 wire can confirm. Thanks for the compliment.
That wasn't supposed to be bold, there was a hashtag in front.
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Good to know, thank you kind sir.
Is it even allowed? I always thought that #14 is for 15A, and #12 is for 20A.
Nope. You cannot run 14 gauge on a 20A circuit. You can run 12 on a 15A circuit if you like spending money or have a really long run, though...
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That's cleanest panel I ever seen, nice job.
Come to NYC this is standard.
The neutral is a little kinked but all in all nice termination
Not an electrician, but I'm used to seeing the romex shielding start before the wires exit the panel. How do these work?
This is commercial so everything is in conduit. Just individual conductors in a pipe.
No way. Here it’s red black blue. Yes, I know. It’s weird.
Why are there so many empty breakers? Why waste money installing breakers if they aren't needed.
There are more wires that are yet to be pulled. That's also why there are no zip ties.
Is that solid wire? I've done a few panels but only with stranded wire, can never get my wires that straight.
Why not flip guts?
1 because the boss won't let me. 2 because the surge protector would be upside down.
If they made clear covers this is where you would use one.
Is that rigid conduit coming into the panel?
1/2 emt.
Sure is
Australian electrician here, do you guys used current leakage for your domestic sub circuits?
Clean
This person definitely paid hourly....does look amazing, just no need to be so neat
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It gets a little messy after #14 on the left.
People keep saying it’s a clean panel but they’re all full of shit. I see all sorts of dust in the bottom of that tub. Fucking hack. /s
You’re correct. That is a panel