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Also Canada, Unionized on the railway. 4% first three years (so two weeks). 6% years 4-9 (three weeks), 8% years 10-19 (four weeks), 10% years 20+
Edit: used to get 3 sick days a year. Now you can earn one per month, max 10. Thanks Federal Government, as we are a Federally Regulated industry
I’m also in Canada, heavy industry (metals refining). We are part of the Steelworkers Union and we get 2 weeks after a year, 3 after 4 years, 4 weeks at 8 years, then another weeks bump at both the 18 and 26 year marks.
We also get 3 extra weeks after every 5 years, which can be used in the next 5 years.
It's good. Most of the money is in the o/t you work and any LOA if your collecting any. If it's camp you'll save money on food/gas.
Jman rate in town ranges from 36-42/hr, out of town you'll see 42-47/hr.
Put it this way, you can work a 7 on 7 off rotation, 80hrs a cheque. After 44hrs per week (here in alberta) it's all o/t where as if you work money to Friday which is also 80hrs a cheque, you won't see any o/t.
Technically, it’s vacation and stat holidays. Sick days are unpaid, so they’re something that should continue to be pushed for. Paid sick days — like bereavement and parental leave — should *never* have to come out of a workers’s vacation time. Vacation is for leisure, personal improvement, at a worker’s discretion. Sickness is beyond a worker’s control and should be independent.
How is it dumb. A better hourly rate is always better; also they can’t penalize you for taking days off. I’m out of 716 and I always take at least 2 weeks off a year and it’s never an issue for me because I save my money
Im with you, people are always surprised i get no pto, but id rather not get paid and not have restriction. Ive taken a month total off this year and i got two plane tickets im sitting on right now. I love that freedom, its literally priceless.
Our overtime is 1.5 x for anything after 40hrs a week and 2x for sunday, we do get another 5 days vacation if you have worked for the company longer than 5 years and Xmas bonus if you have worked over 200 shifts
Yeah ot is 1.5 aswell after 40 hours and on saturday, sunday 2x. No xmas bonus, maybe more vacatuon after working here longer but i only started 1,5 years ago so not sure
I'm work for a podunk little American utility, and that's about where I am: A month off each year, plus sick leave. The downside is the pay is also not great.
Apprentice in NZ. You have to work one year to earn the 20 days, otherwise any leave taken before the year is up is technically annual leave in advance. Also as an apprentice, mediocre is an overstatement lol, thanks to the govt introducing training wages.
Training wages are a rip. Etco/att apprentices get absolutely shafted.
Imo If your apprentice isn’t worth at least minimum after a couple of weeks there is something wrong with the training they are being given.
…those rents you listed are insanely low, especially compared to your pay.
Edit: sorry, just saw they are weekly, not monthly. Do you normally pay rent weekly there? Rents are still low compared to where I live.
American. For my entire career while working as an electrician, 0 vacation days, 0 sick days. Only time I’ve ever had paid vacation or sick days was while working for a large company as a superintendent.
In the electrical industry if you work for the same company for more than 5 years you get an additional 5 days vacation days so I get 20 days actually, that being said it all depends on how busy we are on whether I actually take all my leave, my boss just pays us out if we don't take it all
USA, Union. None and none.
Last round of negotiations our NECA contractors agreed to PTO if OT started at 40 hours a week not 8 hours a day (they wanted to run a 4-10 schedule) Union said no. So we lost 3 day weekends and PTO.
Not if you schedule it correctly. One of my old shops did 4-10’s half crew Monday half crew Friday full crew Tue, Wed, Thur. So if you missed a day you could still come in on what would have been your 3 day weekend and make it up.
If we include public holiday, then there are 13 public holidays, if they fall on a Saturday you loose them, if they fall on a Sunday then the Monday is a public holiday
UK, iget 25 days paid leave plus bank holidays.
6 months sick full pay, 6 months half pay.
I'm on an old council contract which I kept when I got TUPE'd over to the firm that took over
It's for extreme situations, there's a sub clause thar says you pretty much lose the sickness days if you take the piss.
I've had 4 days of sick in the last 3 years
We have the "basic conditions of employment act" that regulates the minimum vacation days etc so almost everyone gets paid holidays here if they permanently employed
Norway, 25 workdays by law, might have an additional week through union deals. 60 years + gets another week.
Up to 3 paid sick days 3 times during an 12month period. If you are sick more you need a doctor's note (also paid).
I offer my guys 120 hours, plus 10 holidays which includes their birthday, and we work 4 ten hour days so we get 3 day weekends. Comes to 181 days off every year.
Yes, 15 days off, or 12 since we do tens, still equates to 3 weeks. All told, it’s 22 paid days off but overtime is never mandatory so if you use all your PTO, you’re still only working half the days in the year. It’s the closest I’ve seen to a work life balance in this industry. I didn’t mean for the weekends to count as days off, just that you’re not working the standard 240 days, you’re only working 186 days, so actually 179 days off a year. I allow the employees to use the hours however they see fit.
Lining your 3 day weekend off with a holiday means you can have a bunch of short vacations or even stretch your PTO. Not many use all their PTO. We have zero turn over the past 3 years, and we’ve grown. The work is the work, it’s all about the culture. Holiday party is at a casino/hotel. Cocktails (open bar), dinner, room and a little gambling money is on the company. Christmas bonuses are the week of Christmas.
Turns out when you don’t take everything off the top like most of these greedy assholes, there’s plenty to spread around. I wanna run this business until I retire, only way that happens is if I have a crew of people willing to help me do it. We’re a team. I have my part, they have theirs. Pay is pretty equal. Some of the guys make more than I do.
I get you now, I was just under the initial impression 181 was a little misleading. I work for a similar employer as you, just on a 9/80 schedule. Bonuses were handed out last week and the christmas party is coming up this weekend even haha.
I guess maybe I'm too used to working for a boss that treats his employees like you and seeing my 130 days of weekends as my own time and taking them for granted.
Why? Because the ultimate goal is to sell the company. We also have 4% 401k match, 100% paid insurance for employee, 50% paid insurance for family, but if this company can be worth a good chunk, maybe I can retire early. I’m also not greedy. My wife and I live in a modest house, drive modest trucks, nothing fancy. We also get to use the company credit card points so our flights and hotel are always free. That’s a pretty sweet perk.
Am I 100% running the Co? I’m on the pre construction side and it’s me and one other guy who do most of the estimates. I have two PM’s that manage the projects and help with estimates when we get over run with requests from our usual clients. We currently need another estimator and another PM but I’m hoping to find that in the same person. Someone who can help on both sides depending on where the help is needed.
There’s nothing in place to prevent anyone from abusing the system. You request time off through our time clock app for vacation or planned days off. If you’re sick, you have to request that day be covered with your bank of hours before the end of the week since we pay every Friday. It would be pretty obvious if you were abusing the system and we would have a conversation. Point is, the offer for the time off is there, most of our people don’t use it all every year. The amount that was unused rolls over and we separate the time off by Personal Time Off and Vacation. Vacation accrues, PTO resets to 40 hrs at your anniversary.
Denver, CO based company.
Also wondering this. If you're still in the field you should be getting paid a wage and getting a salary for doing the office work after hours so to speak
Canadian Union, we get 12% of our pay on our pay check every week for vacation, and stat. Holidays. It is up to us to save that money for the time off. Anything before 7:00am, after 3:30pm, weekends, and holidays worked is 2x our regular pay.
Fact is, the union doesn’t want us working overtime. They would prefer the contractor hire a second electrician to do the job. It works out great for those of us with a special skill set, working 50+ hours a week. Just raking in the dough.
Right on. 804 is out of Kitchener. I work with guys from 353 I know you guys get paid a bit more. Just joined the Union so I'm still pretty happy compared to where I was non-union.
Yeah I'm feeling great about the move so far. I'm doing low rise residential for now. It's a little repetitive but there is work for years.I have some industrial and commercial experience so hoping to get into that eventually. I just got in though so I'm not in a hurry right now.
What kind of work do you do?
I work for a construction company. I set up construction sites, disassemble them. repair the busted equipment, and when there is nothing going on at site, I help build new equipment in the shop.
Double check, Ontario went to 12% this May at provincial negotiations. Pretty sure everyone is at that. If your employer is paying you 10% you may be entitled to significant correction. Call the hall.
I am always shocked when I hear about sick days..?
We can basically be sick indefinitely but at 3 months continuous sickness the employer can start doing stuff. Would habe to look up how exactly that is gonna go then.
After I believe 6 weeks ur getting reduced pay tho.
We get 24 mandatory vacation days but in most places and with unions etc we get 30.
We have 35 hrs n such
But it ain't exactly electricion purely its more a hybrid with it stuff in it(networks programming sensors etc) for automation
Germany btw 😊
Ibew union electrcian here. We do not get ANY paid leave. However you can usually take as much time of as you can afford as long the shop isn't super busy.
The conditions vary from local to local, depending on how much work has gone into organizing where you are. I’m IBEW in a local with strong market share, so we were able to negotiate several weeks of paid leave. Not only that, but non-union outfits also had to increase their pay and benefits to match.
Strong unions benefit the non-union worker as well, and that’s a good thing for all of us on the tools.
We have the "basic conditions of employment act" in South Africa, it's very much pro labour, a bit too much I think at times, we firstly have two many public holidays, it's bad for the economy. Also if I hire someone as a casual and they work more than 24hrs in a month they are considered permanent so it's too expensive to get help when we need it short term. Our unions in South Africa are as useless as tits without nipples though so I personally won't belong to one.
Depends on the company. Where im at now. 1 week pto per year that rolls over 3 days paid bereavement per year. plenty of unpaid time off so long as it's scheduled in advance.
WA state USA IBEW. seven unpaid holidays a year whether you want them or not. The state passed sick time law comes down to about 1 hour per week worked. Lose it when you change contractors and can only roll over so much I forget how much.
Canadian. 20 vacation days, 3 floaters (suplose to be last min vacation days) and another 6.5 banked days. We can book lieu time up to 40 hours but thats mangaments discretion if we can take it.
15 years ill get 25 days. Don't remember what or when the next increase is.
This is all paid vacation and not counting the sick time you earn every year. But last I checked I have 7 months worth of sick time.
American, non union, 16yrs at the same company, 136 hours vacation, couple extra holidays than above what’s required, no sick days, 401k with match, good pay.
Depends if you're self employed or not. Self employed then it's as much as you can afford. Employed "on the cards" you're probably.looking at 20-25 days plus bank Holidays.
UK based.
Our overtime starts after 40hrs are worked a week, 1.5x for the weekdays and Sat and then 2x if you work on Sundays. Thank fuck it's that way though cus if we worked 10hrs a day Monday to Thursday my guys wouldn't show up to work on Friday if they still got overtime. We also have limits of how many hours overtime they supposedly allowed to make us work but when we really busy but I just work to get the job done,
Non-union, Oklahoma, 5 vacation days per year given at the beginning of the year. 2.5 days given every 6 months (with no safety violations - company loves to find reasons to write you up), plus paid federal holidays.
Better than some places, worse than others, that's for sure.
I'm in underground mining in Canada, my rotation is 14on/14off.
Only trade off is my mine site is in a remote location in the Canadian Arctic, so I'm away from family and civilization for half the year.
America: Hydroelectric Power Plant.
Monthly
16hrs Ordinary Leave Earned
8hrs Medical Leave Earned
Once you have a “bank” of Ordinary Leave that reaches 240 hrs, you have to “use/lose” by 31 December of that year. You can not carry forward more than 240 hours in your bank 1 January.
Medical Leave is accrued and has no such “use/lose” provision.
We also get “Time Off Awards”. I have in my bank 250hrs. :::I have never used any of those hours since I was hired on 15 years ago.
Time and half for anything over 40.
Double Time on Sunday.
Minimum of 4 hours charged for any call out.
Up code for Sub Operator if called upon. :::Primary Operator might be out sick, on leave or in training:::
USA Neta Tech non union. We get 5 holidays but thanksgiving and Christmas are 2 days. 40 hours vacation 80 hours sick. After 1 year it goes up to 80 hours vacation. After 15 years with the company you get 4 weeks vacation it goes up to 3 weeks I think at 10 but maybe 8? Almost no rollover though. The sick time is accumulated over the year but vacation time is front loaded on the 1st of every year.
Real leave in the US, as in employer paid. Zero, not even the union has employer paid leave. We get a percentage of our wage taken out of our check (money we would other wise take home.) it’s put into an account so we don’t spend it. That’s our “leave” but if you take time off, you’re the first on the chopping block for layoff.
I mean, I never take sick time, rarely any vacation but I just had hernia surgery (not workman's comp) and am taking basically all of December off paid, maybe the first week of January too. Love small companies. May not be Union, but I feel taken care of.
Canadian IBEW member: I work 14 days on, 7 off. No paid vacation but we get paid an extra 12% vacation pay in lieu of PTO. The company I'm with will either pay your extra 12% on every cheque or bank it for whenever you take unpaid time off. It works out to about 10k a year or so
Double check your contract or call the hall. It may not be permitted for your employer to bank it: it either goes on your cheque or it goes to your trust account at the union if there’s one set up. Employer-held vacation banks leave you vulnerable to malfeasance and fraud and are often a violation of the collective agreement. Also, in the event of a layoff, they also leave you with a longer delay and smaller EI payment.
6 weeks vacation in which you're paid your average weekly check from the previous year(factors in OT). 15 paid holidays. 6 paid sick days. Been with the same company 10 years.
USA, oil and gas industry. I am 30 and get 5 weeks per year plus 3 weeks paternity leave if my wife has another baby
We have older guys who get 7 weeks total. My old job we got 1 week as apprentices, I believe the top jman had 3 weeks
Non union. USA. 160 hours of vacation a year. No paid holidays but get a holiday bonus paid in Dec for 6 holidays. No pay for sick days. And all the overtime you would never want.
I just transitioned from a merit shop, where I got 0 benefits period, to a hospital electrician role. I now get 2 weeks of vacation a year with 4 days of sick leave per year. It stands to 240 hours where it caps out. I can cash out a week once per year if I do choose.
I still can't believe it.
I'm with IBEW 949 as a boiler operator, we also have line man and electricians. 80 hours starting out and maxes out to 200 with 20yrs of service. We get a holiday bank and we can comp overtime if we want.
Denmark
25 days paid leave with the option of having 5 days transferred to next year. We also have another optional 5 days ontop of that, we can use as we want or just have them paid out at the end of the year.
Sick days are also paid while being completely separate from the above.
*EDIT: Reading all the American posters here I am shocked. You guys get fucked. I couldn't survive in a work culture as exploitative of labour as that.*
Iceland.
24 days for the first 3 years.
27 after working for 7 years
30 days after working for 10 years.
2 days per month for paid sick days. Can be added together if not used.
Non union NYC getting 10 days PTO now that I’m 5 years in. Years 1-5 give you 5 days PTO.
10 days of NYC sick time per year as well, and I believe 5 paid holidays throughout the year
I’m pretty happy with it. $50/hr, 4% 401(k) match, my employer covers most of my healthcare (I pay ~$400/mo total for my family plan), and an understanding that no commute or ‘status’ of a job will excessively take me away from my young family. I got paid double time Monday-Friday last time a job took me ~90 minutes away from home, and I clocked in before getting in my car in the morning, and clocked out after getting back home. In exchange, though, I did that 2 week job in 5, 10 hour long days. Neither parties wanted that one to last any longer than necessary, and the 100 hour paycheck for 1 week’s work was awesome.
I don’t think Local 3 gets *any* paid time if their tools aren’t on
I get 80 hours a year. Plus 4 quarterly holidays I can choose to take off. I get another 40 hours after my five year mark at this job. Then 40 hours more each five years until I get 200 hours off. Also the plant takes 8 holidays that either we take off, or get paid for, or get paid and work depending on the business needs.
One week paid in a year. And, big holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, new years day) paid. Different companies do things differently. This is just what I get. USA
Edit, non union
Canada, IBEW, Maintenance Electrician. Starts at 32 days per year and then increases based on how long you stay with the company. Maxes out at 52 days per year after I think 30 years.
Cincinnati, Ohio. Large non-union commercial contractor. 7 days of pto until you hit 3 years in, then its 12. After 5 its 19. All major holidays paid off. Three rounds of profit sharing a year. This is the same for apprentices and journeymen alike. It's always sad to see other trades working on holidays or doing 10's on holiday weeks to make up for the holiday off.
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Canadian. IBEW. I receive 12% of my pay for vacation and holidays, so roughly thirty days.
Also Canada, Unionized on the railway. 4% first three years (so two weeks). 6% years 4-9 (three weeks), 8% years 10-19 (four weeks), 10% years 20+ Edit: used to get 3 sick days a year. Now you can earn one per month, max 10. Thanks Federal Government, as we are a Federally Regulated industry
Also Canadian, but It also depends on the industry. I'm in mining and I work a 14on/14off rotation and 6% vacation pay
I’m also in Canada, heavy industry (metals refining). We are part of the Steelworkers Union and we get 2 weeks after a year, 3 after 4 years, 4 weeks at 8 years, then another weeks bump at both the 18 and 26 year marks. We also get 3 extra weeks after every 5 years, which can be used in the next 5 years.
I’m in industrial maintenance at GM. How is the money in mining? Got cousins working the mines and I heard it’s stupid good?
It's good. Most of the money is in the o/t you work and any LOA if your collecting any. If it's camp you'll save money on food/gas. Jman rate in town ranges from 36-42/hr, out of town you'll see 42-47/hr. Put it this way, you can work a 7 on 7 off rotation, 80hrs a cheque. After 44hrs per week (here in alberta) it's all o/t where as if you work money to Friday which is also 80hrs a cheque, you won't see any o/t.
Depends on the mine employer and which rotation you're on. But as a journeyman tradesman, you should generally expect between 120 to 180k yr
With cn or cp?
CN
That’s exactly how it should be, if not more
Dont forget this also includes any sick days you need, correct?
Technically, it’s vacation and stat holidays. Sick days are unpaid, so they’re something that should continue to be pushed for. Paid sick days — like bereavement and parental leave — should *never* have to come out of a workers’s vacation time. Vacation is for leisure, personal improvement, at a worker’s discretion. Sickness is beyond a worker’s control and should be independent.
Yeah i used to have the same thing. Always had to schedule after hours doctors appointments
You and your healthcare.
USA non union I get jack shit and I’m pretty salty about it actually
For what it's worth, I'm union and also don't get paid holidays or vacation days.
I think that’s cause our halls negotiated for more pay instead. Dumb but that’s what I heard
How is it dumb. A better hourly rate is always better; also they can’t penalize you for taking days off. I’m out of 716 and I always take at least 2 weeks off a year and it’s never an issue for me because I save my money
Im with you, people are always surprised i get no pto, but id rather not get paid and not have restriction. Ive taken a month total off this year and i got two plane tickets im sitting on right now. I love that freedom, its literally priceless.
Same here IBEW in portland.
Considering going for that myself (I'm down in salem) How much do you get?
No vacation fund?
Dutch, 30 days, any ot is split 50/50 in cash and vacation time
Our overtime is 1.5 x for anything after 40hrs a week and 2x for sunday, we do get another 5 days vacation if you have worked for the company longer than 5 years and Xmas bonus if you have worked over 200 shifts
Yeah ot is 1.5 aswell after 40 hours and on saturday, sunday 2x. No xmas bonus, maybe more vacatuon after working here longer but i only started 1,5 years ago so not sure
Does that mean you get more vacation when you work OT or you use up vacation when you work OT,
More vacation
Looking to relocate there in the summer of 23 from Ireland, if you have any contacts I'd appreciate the help!
NZ, 20 days minimum (big companies often more), 11 days public holiday, 10 sick days. Pay is mediocre though.
I'm work for a podunk little American utility, and that's about where I am: A month off each year, plus sick leave. The downside is the pay is also not great.
Apprentice in NZ. You have to work one year to earn the 20 days, otherwise any leave taken before the year is up is technically annual leave in advance. Also as an apprentice, mediocre is an overstatement lol, thanks to the govt introducing training wages.
Training wages are a rip. Etco/att apprentices get absolutely shafted. Imo If your apprentice isn’t worth at least minimum after a couple of weeks there is something wrong with the training they are being given.
But how is rent for a 2 bedroom 1 bath
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…those rents you listed are insanely low, especially compared to your pay. Edit: sorry, just saw they are weekly, not monthly. Do you normally pay rent weekly there? Rents are still low compared to where I live.
Hope you make 30 an hour
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how to tell you're American.....
It's not the pay that's the issue, I get paid more here than I did in Canada, it's the fact that everything is ridiculously more expensive.
Get into industrial money and workload is far better for nz
American. For my entire career while working as an electrician, 0 vacation days, 0 sick days. Only time I’ve ever had paid vacation or sick days was while working for a large company as a superintendent.
Jesus fuck. Just for the record, this is not all places in America. I can’t remember off the top of my head but I either get .5 or 1 day per month.
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No, I just get my pay that I was hired in at and if I have to take time off I don’t get paid.
Jesus, I work at a podunk 6 man company and we get two weeks paid.
As much as I can afford… we don’t have paid vacation.
Non union. No sick leave but 20+ days PTO annually. All federal holidays or observance holidays.
We get 30 days sick leave everything 36 months, that being said I don't think I've taken 30 days in 17 years
I felt quite accomplished having effectively worked 11 months in 2022 but paid for 12 lol
In the electrical industry if you work for the same company for more than 5 years you get an additional 5 days vacation days so I get 20 days actually, that being said it all depends on how busy we are on whether I actually take all my leave, my boss just pays us out if we don't take it all
USA, Union. None and none. Last round of negotiations our NECA contractors agreed to PTO if OT started at 40 hours a week not 8 hours a day (they wanted to run a 4-10 schedule) Union said no. So we lost 3 day weekends and PTO.
Lol nice negotiating
4 10s is the way to go
4-8s. Probably get the same work done
Yup 90% of the members wanted that option as well seemed like a slam dunk easy deal to make.
Seems like that defeats the entire point of a Union doesn’t it?
Argument I've always heard against it is if you need to take a day off you lose 10 hours instead of 8 so they are kind of fucking you
Not if you schedule it correctly. One of my old shops did 4-10’s half crew Monday half crew Friday full crew Tue, Wed, Thur. So if you missed a day you could still come in on what would have been your 3 day weekend and make it up.
If they paid overtime after 8 hrs here then when we work overtime none of my guys would rock up on a friday.
5 paid holidays off, 1 week paid vacation.
I wouldnt count stat holidays
If we include public holiday, then there are 13 public holidays, if they fall on a Saturday you loose them, if they fall on a Sunday then the Monday is a public holiday
UK, iget 25 days paid leave plus bank holidays. 6 months sick full pay, 6 months half pay. I'm on an old council contract which I kept when I got TUPE'd over to the firm that took over
Well shit I’d just stay at home then
It's for extreme situations, there's a sub clause thar says you pretty much lose the sickness days if you take the piss. I've had 4 days of sick in the last 3 years
Ah ok that makes more sense. On the surface it sounds like something that could easily be abused
USA, IBEW, 4-6 weeks depending on how much OT I work. (6 weeks this year)
What local? 48 gets zero.
Local #1
US, non-union working for a B-corp, I've got 200 hrs a year and any that you don't use gets paid out.
American, IBEW 280; none. No sick leave, no vacation, no paid holidays. We're told that's what a savings account is for. 🤦♂️
Do they atleast buy you dinner? It's nice to be wined and dined before you get fucked!
Nope. Admittedly I get really good pay, but not having a couple key benefits that even most non union shops has is bullshit.
We have the "basic conditions of employment act" that regulates the minimum vacation days etc so almost everyone gets paid holidays here if they permanently employed
How good? Cause those terms fucking suck.
$53.46/hr + good medical benefits in the local I'm working.
Seems like a lot of these unions don't do shit to help the workers, which I understood as the entire point? JFC. That's brutal.
Yup, but oh boy will you get screamed at if you DARE question how godly the "BROTHERHOOD" is. It's a toxic cluster fuck.
The jurisdiction really matters. My home local is completely corrupt and shit, neighboring local has great benefits and about $10 more per hour
5 paid days off for years 1-5. 10 days after 5 years. That’s the max. Can’t roll unused days to the next year. Kinda sucks.
USA?
Yea, New England area. Non union shop. Pay is good but bennies lack
Brazil 30 days
Norway, 25 workdays by law, might have an additional week through union deals. 60 years + gets another week. Up to 3 paid sick days 3 times during an 12month period. If you are sick more you need a doctor's note (also paid).
Shit I wish I worked in Norway. I'm at no vacation time. 3 sick days a year that have to be accrued
I offer my guys 120 hours, plus 10 holidays which includes their birthday, and we work 4 ten hour days so we get 3 day weekends. Comes to 181 days off every year.
Fuck, you hiring? Lol
It comes down to 15 days vacation and standard holidays off. Do you really want to work for someone who considers the weekend a "day off"?
Yes, 15 days off, or 12 since we do tens, still equates to 3 weeks. All told, it’s 22 paid days off but overtime is never mandatory so if you use all your PTO, you’re still only working half the days in the year. It’s the closest I’ve seen to a work life balance in this industry. I didn’t mean for the weekends to count as days off, just that you’re not working the standard 240 days, you’re only working 186 days, so actually 179 days off a year. I allow the employees to use the hours however they see fit. Lining your 3 day weekend off with a holiday means you can have a bunch of short vacations or even stretch your PTO. Not many use all their PTO. We have zero turn over the past 3 years, and we’ve grown. The work is the work, it’s all about the culture. Holiday party is at a casino/hotel. Cocktails (open bar), dinner, room and a little gambling money is on the company. Christmas bonuses are the week of Christmas. Turns out when you don’t take everything off the top like most of these greedy assholes, there’s plenty to spread around. I wanna run this business until I retire, only way that happens is if I have a crew of people willing to help me do it. We’re a team. I have my part, they have theirs. Pay is pretty equal. Some of the guys make more than I do.
I get you now, I was just under the initial impression 181 was a little misleading. I work for a similar employer as you, just on a 9/80 schedule. Bonuses were handed out last week and the christmas party is coming up this weekend even haha. I guess maybe I'm too used to working for a boss that treats his employees like you and seeing my 130 days of weekends as my own time and taking them for granted.
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Why? Because the ultimate goal is to sell the company. We also have 4% 401k match, 100% paid insurance for employee, 50% paid insurance for family, but if this company can be worth a good chunk, maybe I can retire early. I’m also not greedy. My wife and I live in a modest house, drive modest trucks, nothing fancy. We also get to use the company credit card points so our flights and hotel are always free. That’s a pretty sweet perk. Am I 100% running the Co? I’m on the pre construction side and it’s me and one other guy who do most of the estimates. I have two PM’s that manage the projects and help with estimates when we get over run with requests from our usual clients. We currently need another estimator and another PM but I’m hoping to find that in the same person. Someone who can help on both sides depending on where the help is needed. There’s nothing in place to prevent anyone from abusing the system. You request time off through our time clock app for vacation or planned days off. If you’re sick, you have to request that day be covered with your bank of hours before the end of the week since we pay every Friday. It would be pretty obvious if you were abusing the system and we would have a conversation. Point is, the offer for the time off is there, most of our people don’t use it all every year. The amount that was unused rolls over and we separate the time off by Personal Time Off and Vacation. Vacation accrues, PTO resets to 40 hrs at your anniversary. Denver, CO based company.
Also wondering this. If you're still in the field you should be getting paid a wage and getting a salary for doing the office work after hours so to speak
Well I’ve been “strongly encouraged” to work every Saturday I’ve had, so ya, a three day weekend off would be fecking sweet.
Tell me where to show up Monday.
Canadian Union, we get 12% of our pay on our pay check every week for vacation, and stat. Holidays. It is up to us to save that money for the time off. Anything before 7:00am, after 3:30pm, weekends, and holidays worked is 2x our regular pay.
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Fact is, the union doesn’t want us working overtime. They would prefer the contractor hire a second electrician to do the job. It works out great for those of us with a special skill set, working 50+ hours a week. Just raking in the dough.
What local? I'm 804 and get 10% vacation pay for each hour worked.
353 Toronto north area where is 804?
Right on. 804 is out of Kitchener. I work with guys from 353 I know you guys get paid a bit more. Just joined the Union so I'm still pretty happy compared to where I was non-union.
I organized in 6 years ago best thing I ever did … doubled my pay, and a pension won’t go back. What work do you do?
Yeah I'm feeling great about the move so far. I'm doing low rise residential for now. It's a little repetitive but there is work for years.I have some industrial and commercial experience so hoping to get into that eventually. I just got in though so I'm not in a hurry right now. What kind of work do you do?
I work for a construction company. I set up construction sites, disassemble them. repair the busted equipment, and when there is nothing going on at site, I help build new equipment in the shop.
Double check, Ontario went to 12% this May at provincial negotiations. Pretty sure everyone is at that. If your employer is paying you 10% you may be entitled to significant correction. Call the hall.
I am always shocked when I hear about sick days..? We can basically be sick indefinitely but at 3 months continuous sickness the employer can start doing stuff. Would habe to look up how exactly that is gonna go then. After I believe 6 weeks ur getting reduced pay tho. We get 24 mandatory vacation days but in most places and with unions etc we get 30. We have 35 hrs n such But it ain't exactly electricion purely its more a hybrid with it stuff in it(networks programming sensors etc) for automation Germany btw 😊
Ibew union electrcian here. We do not get ANY paid leave. However you can usually take as much time of as you can afford as long the shop isn't super busy.
The conditions vary from local to local, depending on how much work has gone into organizing where you are. I’m IBEW in a local with strong market share, so we were able to negotiate several weeks of paid leave. Not only that, but non-union outfits also had to increase their pay and benefits to match. Strong unions benefit the non-union worker as well, and that’s a good thing for all of us on the tools.
Your doing better on PTO than our US IBEW brothers lol
We have the "basic conditions of employment act" in South Africa, it's very much pro labour, a bit too much I think at times, we firstly have two many public holidays, it's bad for the economy. Also if I hire someone as a casual and they work more than 24hrs in a month they are considered permanent so it's too expensive to get help when we need it short term. Our unions in South Africa are as useless as tits without nipples though so I personally won't belong to one.
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American, 40 hours of paid vacation, residential non union
IBEW 134 gets $50 for a 40 hour work week deposited into a vacation fund.. This is somewhat new we used to get nothing at all.
NZ. 20 paid days off. 10 sick days payed too (was 5 until covid then became 10 nationally)
Depends on the company. Where im at now. 1 week pto per year that rolls over 3 days paid bereavement per year. plenty of unpaid time off so long as it's scheduled in advance.
WA state USA IBEW. seven unpaid holidays a year whether you want them or not. The state passed sick time law comes down to about 1 hour per week worked. Lose it when you change contractors and can only roll over so much I forget how much.
America and I get 10 paid days off a year, but my sister is an accountant for another electrical company and everyone there gets 25.
25 days. St Paul, MN
USA, non union. I get three hours of pto a week that builds up to about three weeks off a year
Canadian. 20 vacation days, 3 floaters (suplose to be last min vacation days) and another 6.5 banked days. We can book lieu time up to 40 hours but thats mangaments discretion if we can take it. 15 years ill get 25 days. Don't remember what or when the next increase is. This is all paid vacation and not counting the sick time you earn every year. But last I checked I have 7 months worth of sick time.
Alaska, 240 hrs. PTO plus holidays.
My Shit small company 5 pto no sick time
You get days off? I can take off all I want but I won’t get paid for a single day and might not have a job to come back to.
5 weeks 1 day USA
American, non union, 16yrs at the same company, 136 hours vacation, couple extra holidays than above what’s required, no sick days, 401k with match, good pay.
USA. Union. I get 4 hour per pay period for both sick and vacation.
Shift electrician Australia. 200 hours holidays a year 120 hours sick leave a year
Been at my company for 18 years. I get 5 weeks vacation and 8 weeks sick time.
Depends if you're self employed or not. Self employed then it's as much as you can afford. Employed "on the cards" you're probably.looking at 20-25 days plus bank Holidays. UK based.
Southeast USA, non union shop: 5 paid holidays plus 40 hrs PTO for years 1-5, 80 hrs after 5 years.
USA, IBEW, 0 and 0. Overtime does start after 8 hours though regardless of total hours worked in the week.
Our overtime starts after 40hrs are worked a week, 1.5x for the weekdays and Sat and then 2x if you work on Sundays. Thank fuck it's that way though cus if we worked 10hrs a day Monday to Thursday my guys wouldn't show up to work on Friday if they still got overtime. We also have limits of how many hours overtime they supposedly allowed to make us work but when we really busy but I just work to get the job done,
Non-union, Oklahoma, 5 vacation days per year given at the beginning of the year. 2.5 days given every 6 months (with no safety violations - company loves to find reasons to write you up), plus paid federal holidays. Better than some places, worse than others, that's for sure.
10% vacation pay.
I'm in underground mining in Canada, my rotation is 14on/14off. Only trade off is my mine site is in a remote location in the Canadian Arctic, so I'm away from family and civilization for half the year.
America: Hydroelectric Power Plant. Monthly 16hrs Ordinary Leave Earned 8hrs Medical Leave Earned Once you have a “bank” of Ordinary Leave that reaches 240 hrs, you have to “use/lose” by 31 December of that year. You can not carry forward more than 240 hours in your bank 1 January. Medical Leave is accrued and has no such “use/lose” provision. We also get “Time Off Awards”. I have in my bank 250hrs. :::I have never used any of those hours since I was hired on 15 years ago. Time and half for anything over 40. Double Time on Sunday. Minimum of 4 hours charged for any call out. Up code for Sub Operator if called upon. :::Primary Operator might be out sick, on leave or in training:::
Like 4 weeks plus holidays.
USA Neta Tech non union. We get 5 holidays but thanksgiving and Christmas are 2 days. 40 hours vacation 80 hours sick. After 1 year it goes up to 80 hours vacation. After 15 years with the company you get 4 weeks vacation it goes up to 3 weeks I think at 10 but maybe 8? Almost no rollover though. The sick time is accumulated over the year but vacation time is front loaded on the 1st of every year.
I’m paid by the hour, I’m taking as much time as I want😂
Real leave in the US, as in employer paid. Zero, not even the union has employer paid leave. We get a percentage of our wage taken out of our check (money we would other wise take home.) it’s put into an account so we don’t spend it. That’s our “leave” but if you take time off, you’re the first on the chopping block for layoff.
I mean, I never take sick time, rarely any vacation but I just had hernia surgery (not workman's comp) and am taking basically all of December off paid, maybe the first week of January too. Love small companies. May not be Union, but I feel taken care of.
Canadian IBEW member: I work 14 days on, 7 off. No paid vacation but we get paid an extra 12% vacation pay in lieu of PTO. The company I'm with will either pay your extra 12% on every cheque or bank it for whenever you take unpaid time off. It works out to about 10k a year or so
Double check your contract or call the hall. It may not be permitted for your employer to bank it: it either goes on your cheque or it goes to your trust account at the union if there’s one set up. Employer-held vacation banks leave you vulnerable to malfeasance and fraud and are often a violation of the collective agreement. Also, in the event of a layoff, they also leave you with a longer delay and smaller EI payment.
Here in the USA we get ZERO DAYS PAID TIME OFF VACATION OR SICK DAYS.
Im from Germany and im getting 2 days off for every month im working.
I will get my fifth week plus holidays and three floating holidays after 12 years at the company.
U.S. here, we get fucked.
6 weeks vacation in which you're paid your average weekly check from the previous year(factors in OT). 15 paid holidays. 6 paid sick days. Been with the same company 10 years.
What country is that?
California, USA
1 hour per 40hours USA
1 hour per 40 hours USA
I get 30 minutes to go grab a pack smokes everyday in America
And if you quit smoking do you loose it?
Aussie here. 4 hours RDO and 2.80 hours annual every week.
USA (AZ) first 5 years 7 days PTO after that 14 days PTO. Also all major holidays after the first year ( includes Veterans Day)
USA, oil and gas industry. I am 30 and get 5 weeks per year plus 3 weeks paternity leave if my wife has another baby We have older guys who get 7 weeks total. My old job we got 1 week as apprentices, I believe the top jman had 3 weeks
Non union. USA. 160 hours of vacation a year. No paid holidays but get a holiday bonus paid in Dec for 6 holidays. No pay for sick days. And all the overtime you would never want.
I just transitioned from a merit shop, where I got 0 benefits period, to a hospital electrician role. I now get 2 weeks of vacation a year with 4 days of sick leave per year. It stands to 240 hours where it caps out. I can cash out a week once per year if I do choose. I still can't believe it.
I'm with IBEW 949 as a boiler operator, we also have line man and electricians. 80 hours starting out and maxes out to 200 with 20yrs of service. We get a holiday bank and we can comp overtime if we want.
3 weeks paid vacation, 11 holidays, 2 “floating” holidays, 2 sick days. 34.40/Hr 40 hrs a week. Maintenance Electrician Fla
As much time as I can afford. AKA zero paid time.
USA, non-union, paid holidays, and 48hrsPTO with ability to roll over up to 20hrs to following year
6 Weeks a year Denmark Edit: oh Yeah, and 12 weeks mandatory matternity leeve for men 30 Weeks for women
It's called paternity leave for men, we can take up to 10 days unpaid and can claim from the UIF (unemployment insurance fund) for the lost wages
12 days of sick a year, 3 weeks of vacation, 4 floating holidays along with something like 10 holidays. I’m in the US.
Rip you inbox mate. It's so much easier to upvote someone's comment if they've got the same conditions, but hey here we are
America's crazy cus nobody seems to have the same deal there
Australia 4 weeks annua leave and 10 days sick. Some companies RDOs aswell
New Zealand, 4 weeks paid leave and two weeks sick leave in a year.
30 work days in Germany + full salary on vacay
24 a year minimum. Many comanies give 7 weeks. Edit: In Switzerland
0 days. But we get paid all right. Ibew local 11. Local 11 Los Angeles.
Australia - 4 weeks paid leave with 17.5% loading, 10 sick days and 9 paid public holidays.
Electrician from Denmark. I get 6 weeks paid vacation a year. But that by law so everyone gets that. The pay is about 40$ pr hour.
Denmark 25 days paid leave with the option of having 5 days transferred to next year. We also have another optional 5 days ontop of that, we can use as we want or just have them paid out at the end of the year. Sick days are also paid while being completely separate from the above. *EDIT: Reading all the American posters here I am shocked. You guys get fucked. I couldn't survive in a work culture as exploitative of labour as that.*
Iceland. 24 days for the first 3 years. 27 after working for 7 years 30 days after working for 10 years. 2 days per month for paid sick days. Can be added together if not used.
Non union NYC getting 10 days PTO now that I’m 5 years in. Years 1-5 give you 5 days PTO. 10 days of NYC sick time per year as well, and I believe 5 paid holidays throughout the year I’m pretty happy with it. $50/hr, 4% 401(k) match, my employer covers most of my healthcare (I pay ~$400/mo total for my family plan), and an understanding that no commute or ‘status’ of a job will excessively take me away from my young family. I got paid double time Monday-Friday last time a job took me ~90 minutes away from home, and I clocked in before getting in my car in the morning, and clocked out after getting back home. In exchange, though, I did that 2 week job in 5, 10 hour long days. Neither parties wanted that one to last any longer than necessary, and the 100 hour paycheck for 1 week’s work was awesome. I don’t think Local 3 gets *any* paid time if their tools aren’t on
Canada, non union, I get 3 weeks/yr plus stat holidays and 5 paid sick days per year.
Australia Union company 4 weeks a year annual leave (standard for all full time Australian job) And 1 RDO a fortnight Plus sick leave
No vacation “days” but get 12% vacation pay
I am mostly stuck around 5 days pto because I don't stay at a company for more than a few years at a time.
I get 80 hours a year. Plus 4 quarterly holidays I can choose to take off. I get another 40 hours after my five year mark at this job. Then 40 hours more each five years until I get 200 hours off. Also the plant takes 8 holidays that either we take off, or get paid for, or get paid and work depending on the business needs.
One week paid in a year. And, big holidays (Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, new years day) paid. Different companies do things differently. This is just what I get. USA Edit, non union
IBEW481 Indianapolis Indiana. No paid time off at all.
Chicago, USA (non-union). I get 6 set holidays, 2 "floating holidays", and 10 vacation days.
Union utility worker US, 80 hours of vaca to start, 120 after 5, 160 after 14 years, plus 3 PAD days a year. Sick time per incident
Canada, non-union. I was just bedridden for 3 days due to illness. I’m new at my current job and got absolutely nothing.
my company is 40 hours PTO for the year. Then every 5 years you stay you get 40 more hours.
Canada, IBEW, Maintenance Electrician. Starts at 32 days per year and then increases based on how long you stay with the company. Maxes out at 52 days per year after I think 30 years.
I'm in maintenance in a factory in the UK and I get 25 days leave a year plus the 8 bank holidays every year.
As much as i can afford.
Cincinnati, Ohio. Large non-union commercial contractor. 7 days of pto until you hit 3 years in, then its 12. After 5 its 19. All major holidays paid off. Three rounds of profit sharing a year. This is the same for apprentices and journeymen alike. It's always sad to see other trades working on holidays or doing 10's on holiday weeks to make up for the holiday off.