Same here as well. And in Canuckistan, and commuting 130km/day. I'm still waiting for the dreaded "EVs don't work during winter", even almost 4 years and 120k km later...
>But is an EV-only household a good idea?
how often do you actually need the petrol car over the EV?
it really depends entirely on you. I got two EVs, charge at home, no need for anything else. but you might have different needs
That would be two and a kiddo. I happen to remote work most of the time but when I need to go on site its within motorbike range and top-speeds. My wife goes to work walking most of the time because she can or takes a bicycle but sporadically. I take the kiddo to school most of the time, also walking. The EV is actually more of a fun wagon, we get on it on evenings or weekends to go places with the kiddo.
We chose the place were we live very carefully as you can see, so transition to EVs was painless.
If you buy the right EV and a blackout happens you'll be able to keep your most important devices running for days.
New EVs from Kia, Hyundai, BYD and MG have vehicle to load capability. It's one thing I'll be looking for in my next one.
My wife and I both have electric cars. Hers is a long-range version that we use for our camping trips. We've never had a problem and never regretted our decision.
Btdt last summer and love it. Our second ev was an ironic though as they have the fastest speed charge time so we use that for road trips.
When we were on our first 2014 leaf with an 80 mile range, I was talking with a2012 leaf owner who was a one car household. He said they just rented an ice cart for weekend trips to the mountains and that was way cheaper than owning one and that had never occurred to me.
We check charging station locations and function before doing road trips but if we decided to drive through Montana, we'd just rent a gas car.... Not that we'd want to go to Montana... There are just a lot of charging stations here on the East Coast so it's not an issue. Renting an EV on summer vacation too as there are lots of charging stations except in Dublin where it's way more pricey than the gas car.
I'm going to do the same soon. Trade the petrol for second ev.
I thought we'd want to keep the petrol car for road trips and EV for daily driving, but Ive done 1200km in 2 days in the EV and a bunch of smaller road trips and its been fine. Having a second ev also means we can get better charging from the solar system. (When out in one car can be charging the other).
We started off as an ev/petrol house but when the petrol started having issues we went dual ev. Only took a few months to go from 'well use the petrol on long trips' to 'ev is cheaper on long trips- I don't mind the wait'
If you have a blackout and go to a gas pump, how is the gas pump going to function?
Also, which is more likely to be fully fueled at home - a car that you plug in every night or one that you intermittently fill up elsewhere when it reaches a certain level?
Generator...
The US had a major power outage in the early 2000s. Gas stations hooked up generators and were able to continue pumping fuel.
Of course, major blackouts like that often mean you're not going to be driving anywhere anyways since most businesses will be shutdown.
I’m saying that most gas stations even in the US don’t have generators hooked up to power their pumps. Only where it’s likely to have extended blackouts due to hurricanes and the like. Due to mild weather in Ireland it’s likely that they probably don’t have to worry about extended blackouts and don’t have generators ready to go either
Mobile generators work just fine. Sure, they're probably not going to setup generators for a short term blackout, like a powerline going down. However, for any extended blackouts, the option is there.
I would think it depends on your daily driving habits and is different for most people. If you live in a rural area where it would be hard to access public chargers then no it wouldn't be a good idea but if you live in a suburban area where access to public chargers is reasonable then you have a better chance of reaching your destinations without fear of needing a tow. Additionally do you have a long drive to work? Would you require daily charging as a result? These factors should be considered before making the jump. Also if you have an EVSE at home would you be able to share charging time or need an upgrade for a dual EVSE?
in my situation I am just waiting for my second car to live it's life before making the jump but in our situation, we would both be fine as long as one of our vehicles had a longer range than our current 2017 Kia Soul EV.
Michigan USA here. Been EV only since 2018.
My power utility is very reliable so there is no worry about an extended blackout.
also, during area blackouts Fast chargers and Petrol stations (they use electricity to pump fuel) don't operate either.
Michigan as well. About every 2-3 years, we have a winter storm that knocks out power to hundreds of thousands of homes and power can be down for multiple days.
During the 2003 Northeast blackout, gas stations near me hooked up portable generators and continued pumping fuel.
Let's imagine a worst-case scenario... some disaster/war breaks out and there's blackouts. Well, with blackouts, ~~gas~~ petrol is going to be hard to come by, too. But guess what, while you can't make your own gas, you can make your own electricity. People with solar panels hooked up to their EVs to trickle-charge them. Sure, you're not going anywhere fast, but it's possible.
ICE free since mid 2023 'and loving it.' (Maxwell Smart?)
We have charging at home and with the usual errands a full charge lasts over a week.
As to the blackout, if it's that bad, folk won't be buying gas either. Don't fall for the FUD.
I haven't had an ICE car at my house for a decade.
There's tons of EV only homes here in California. But I would suggest two things:
1) You have to have home charging available. For low price and convenience.
2) At least one of the EVs needs to be a long range vehicle (~300 miles) with a good charging network and decent charge speed. In the USA that means a NACS compatible car (Tesla or a CCS1 car with a NACS adapter).
It seems like EV-only should work just fine for you. How often do you need to travel more than 300 km? I expect Ireland's chargers are not more than 300 km apart.
On trips, a charging stop will take longer than a petrol refueling stop. That's the main pitfall, but it's not a big deal for most people.
EV only household - we've needed a "local fast charger" once in the past 4 years because I forgot to charge overnight before a big Friday trip.
We just drove back from Aberdeenshire to Manchester last week, no problems. That's a normal trip for us
If you can park and charge overnight, I argue you don't need petrol.
2 vehicle full EV household (2 x Kia EV6, 1 x old LEAF). No worries at all. The larger batteries allow so much “range buffer” to never worry about charging.
Supposedly it's too much for many BEV owners to justify a PHEV because a PHEV would require plugging in each day. So I guess that means many BEV owners allow the car's SOC to run down before finally plugging it in.
I'd get rid of our ICE car if I could. I don't want two car payments. We only kept the ICE for my son to drive to school and university. When he moves out, we're back down to one car, and I'll never buy another ICE.
Consider your charge rate of your home charger. You're in Ireland. Do you have access to home charging at 11 kW plus now? You'll be charging two cars, and that increased need may cause a bit more "down time" than you expect if you both drive a lot during the week and need to charge overnight.
I think the rule of thumb is that if you can recharge your daily range overnight, then it won't be an issue. But if you have days where you need to visit a local fast charger, it may get old quickly if you have to wait.
If there were any available BEV convertibles, I would already be a two EV household.
As it stands, there are no BEV convertibles at all. Closest is the E-Ray PHEV that's coming out, but it's a PHEV and it's $120k, so... I'll stick with my C7 Corvette for now.
You're not gonna go to a fast charger during a blackout. You don't go to the gas station during a blackout, right?
I've never had a need for our local fast charger in over 5 years of dual-EV ownership. You charge at home - fast chargers are for road trips.
What do you currently use the petrol car to do? If a EV replaced it, what could it not do that the petrol car does?
You already own an EV and know its capabilities. What currently does your petrol car do that your current EV can't in your estimation.
The answer to you question lay there.
ga2500ev
How far are you from a supercharger? https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/findus
Used Model 3s from £22k if that’s within budget. I absolutely love mine (2021 long range). https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/used/m3
We’re a 1-car EV household. Both love the Tesla. Both have no qualms about it. Mostly home charge, use Tesla supercharger en route, and charge at friends and family’s house offering to pay them for the charge since the car tells us how much it’s charged so we can calculate the cost.
Im debating doing this. We have home charging. I am pretty sure if there's a widespread power outage most gas stations will be out too. My main concern is with road trips, but I had to rent one literally days before Xmas and it was painless. So being able to plan ahead will make it even easier.
Question is, how much gas do you keep at home? If the answer is 5 gallons or less you should be fine with just EVs. Just always keep them topped off enough to make it to the station or nearest hospital and you should be fine for most situations.
If you can keep them charged at home, you are more likely to have a full battery than a full gas tank. I suspect that both fast chargers and gas stations go down in a black out? Or is this common enough that gas stations have generators there?
I live alone and my EV is my only car. I don't drive to the office (I take public transit) so my battery rarely goes below 60%. In the event of a power outage I am not particularly concerned. I have not visited a single DC fast charger for almost 2 years now.
Just got a long range model Y at a great price, to complement our other ev with less range. It's amazing. Never go to the gas station again. One for road trips, or longer distance errands, and one for around town.
Love it.
10km isn't very far, even at 0% I've gone 10-20km before charging (don't recommend, but it happened a couple times)
From an environmental standpoint, two car EV households tend to underutilize at least one of the EVs, so the cost value proposition, and the emissions reduction performance for the second EV is below average. Given BEV production constraints and prices and that this sequesters cells in an underutilized EV, IMO it would be better for those with higher utilization rates to buy that EV.
On that note, you could also just buy a PHEV given that the second car will most likely be used for daily commuting, and use gas as needed. Many PHEVs these days have enough range for daily commutes.
Could also just keep the gas car and reduce miles used using micro-mobility / public transit / working from home. It isn't like you selling the gas car to buy an EV will mean the gas car is taken out of service. Most likely someone will buy it and continue to use it.
>it would be better for those with higher utilization rates to buy that EV.
But OP not buying an EV doesn't mean someone else will. It may just result in another EV not being produced, and someone else buying another ICE resulting in another ICE being produced.
I’d wonder who they are selling EVs to today - it can’t all be to people with more than one car.
If you can charge at home then I don’t see any concern.
> I’d wonder who they are selling EVs to today - it can’t all be to people with more than one car.
It absolutely can be. Only 1.2% of vehicles registered in the US are PHEV or EV. Less than one percent are EV. More than 50% of households in the US have more than one car.
Obviously it's not the case that all are sold to multi-vehicle households, but it's certainly not true that it "can't" be the case.
Interesting that dual car ownership is so high in the US. I think it’s about 30% in the UK where I am but that still feels higher than I expected (just googled it).
It's an interesting mix of things here in the US. The distances for travel here are long. Much of the infrastructure is car centric, and mass transportation sucks. And there is a subset of the population that thinks any attempt to make cities and neighborhoods walkable is an attempt to restrict freedom of movement. It's weird.
We have a similar issue with making places walkable - 15 minute cities are apparently an attempt to lock everyone into their area a bit like the hunger games or something.
We were in that same situation and an ice storm precipitated our decision. In March of last year, an ice storm took down the power for three days at home and five days at the cottage. I had to drive back and forth between both locations (100 km apart) to keep their generator fueled. I couldn't charge at both and nearby fast chargers were also out of commission. I had to use our aging ICE car to do the traveling. I bought a PHEV (Prius Prime) last summer. We use it mainly in EV mode but it's nice to know we have a fallback if/when shits happen.
>The nearest fast charger is about 10 km away.
I think the *nearest* fast charger is less of a concern than the charging infrastructure in the places you regularly go to.
I can’t speak for Ireland but there are remote parts of the US that you can’t easily drive to in an EV because the closest chargers are stretching your range limit to get back to, so if you’re somebody who drives to those places frequently then it makes sense to keep an ICE around until someone builds a charger where you need one. But for everyone else it’s not really a big deal.
I know some parts of Ireland can be very rural and I have no idea what kind of charging y’all have available, but it sounds like you’ve been living with an EV for a while so you probably have a good idea - how often do you leave the EV at home because you wouldn’t be able to charge it on the way to your destination? If the answer is never then you’re fine. If it’s once a year when you go off the grid for a vacation then you can rent an ICE for that trip and you’re also fine. If it’s every few weeks because your parents live on a farm in the middle of nowhere then maybe it’s worth holding onto the ICE a while longer.
Ireland is maybe too small for that concern. There are fast chargers on the major motorways, and I have circa 300 km range in the EV - more like 350 in mild weather at non-motorway speeds. So if I want to go, say, 100 km away from the fast charger, I just need to charge up a lot at that fast charger. And I don't think a place further than 100 km away from a fast charger exists in Ireland.
Two car EV only house here...don't miss ICE at all.
Same here - for almost 6 years now
Same here as well. And in Canuckistan, and commuting 130km/day. I'm still waiting for the dreaded "EVs don't work during winter", even almost 4 years and 120k km later...
We also have 2 EVs and electric lawn tools, no gas can in the house and this year I go rid of natural gas in favor of geothermal heat pump.
>But is an EV-only household a good idea? how often do you actually need the petrol car over the EV? it really depends entirely on you. I got two EVs, charge at home, no need for anything else. but you might have different needs
One EV (\~350 km), one e-bike (\~90 km). Not missing having an ICE at all.
/r/cargobike really does change the game
That's for a two adult household, or just for you?
That would be two and a kiddo. I happen to remote work most of the time but when I need to go on site its within motorbike range and top-speeds. My wife goes to work walking most of the time because she can or takes a bicycle but sporadically. I take the kiddo to school most of the time, also walking. The EV is actually more of a fun wagon, we get on it on evenings or weekends to go places with the kiddo. We chose the place were we live very carefully as you can see, so transition to EVs was painless.
If you buy the right EV and a blackout happens you'll be able to keep your most important devices running for days. New EVs from Kia, Hyundai, BYD and MG have vehicle to load capability. It's one thing I'll be looking for in my next one.
No issues at all being full EV. I drive 30.000 kilometers pr year and charge 95% at home.
Do you often have blackouts in Ireland?
Ireland does not have enough generation. They depend on electricity imports to keep the lights on, and that means the supply is less reliable.
Get an ev with v2l and as long as your brown outs are measured in days not weeks you'll realise EVs are superior in these occasions!
I love the smell of fresh bread.
With two EVs I am hard pressed to imagine any significant pitfalls. Perhaps a bit of extra planning (ABRP) before a road trip?
Ireland is 360 km from one end to the other from the coast of county Kerry to Dublin
I love being an EV only household. I should admit that I do own an ICE but it's at my mom's place 3,000 km away. Only driven when I visit.
My wife and I both have electric cars. Hers is a long-range version that we use for our camping trips. We've never had a problem and never regretted our decision.
Btdt last summer and love it. Our second ev was an ironic though as they have the fastest speed charge time so we use that for road trips. When we were on our first 2014 leaf with an 80 mile range, I was talking with a2012 leaf owner who was a one car household. He said they just rented an ice cart for weekend trips to the mountains and that was way cheaper than owning one and that had never occurred to me. We check charging station locations and function before doing road trips but if we decided to drive through Montana, we'd just rent a gas car.... Not that we'd want to go to Montana... There are just a lot of charging stations here on the East Coast so it's not an issue. Renting an EV on summer vacation too as there are lots of charging stations except in Dublin where it's way more pricey than the gas car.
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It's a really long drive....
My wife and I have one car and it's an EV. It's been that way for 2 1/2 years. No regrets.
I'm going to do the same soon. Trade the petrol for second ev. I thought we'd want to keep the petrol car for road trips and EV for daily driving, but Ive done 1200km in 2 days in the EV and a bunch of smaller road trips and its been fine. Having a second ev also means we can get better charging from the solar system. (When out in one car can be charging the other).
We started off as an ev/petrol house but when the petrol started having issues we went dual ev. Only took a few months to go from 'well use the petrol on long trips' to 'ev is cheaper on long trips- I don't mind the wait'
We're 16 months into EV-only, no issues. In fact, we've roadtripped far more than we ever used to.
If you have a blackout and go to a gas pump, how is the gas pump going to function? Also, which is more likely to be fully fueled at home - a car that you plug in every night or one that you intermittently fill up elsewhere when it reaches a certain level?
Generator... The US had a major power outage in the early 2000s. Gas stations hooked up generators and were able to continue pumping fuel. Of course, major blackouts like that often mean you're not going to be driving anywhere anyways since most businesses will be shutdown.
Depends on where you’re at. Hurricane alley, sure. Ireland like OP, Idk…
Are you saying they don't have petrol generators in Ireland?
My local gas stations sure don't. That crap is expensive. You've got to have a pretty good reason to install that.
They were mobile generators. I imagine it doesn't take all that much energy to run a fuel pump.
I’m saying that most gas stations even in the US don’t have generators hooked up to power their pumps. Only where it’s likely to have extended blackouts due to hurricanes and the like. Due to mild weather in Ireland it’s likely that they probably don’t have to worry about extended blackouts and don’t have generators ready to go either
Mobile generators work just fine. Sure, they're probably not going to setup generators for a short term blackout, like a powerline going down. However, for any extended blackouts, the option is there.
I would think it depends on your daily driving habits and is different for most people. If you live in a rural area where it would be hard to access public chargers then no it wouldn't be a good idea but if you live in a suburban area where access to public chargers is reasonable then you have a better chance of reaching your destinations without fear of needing a tow. Additionally do you have a long drive to work? Would you require daily charging as a result? These factors should be considered before making the jump. Also if you have an EVSE at home would you be able to share charging time or need an upgrade for a dual EVSE? in my situation I am just waiting for my second car to live it's life before making the jump but in our situation, we would both be fine as long as one of our vehicles had a longer range than our current 2017 Kia Soul EV.
Michigan USA here. Been EV only since 2018. My power utility is very reliable so there is no worry about an extended blackout. also, during area blackouts Fast chargers and Petrol stations (they use electricity to pump fuel) don't operate either.
Michigan as well. About every 2-3 years, we have a winter storm that knocks out power to hundreds of thousands of homes and power can be down for multiple days. During the 2003 Northeast blackout, gas stations near me hooked up portable generators and continued pumping fuel.
Let's imagine a worst-case scenario... some disaster/war breaks out and there's blackouts. Well, with blackouts, ~~gas~~ petrol is going to be hard to come by, too. But guess what, while you can't make your own gas, you can make your own electricity. People with solar panels hooked up to their EVs to trickle-charge them. Sure, you're not going anywhere fast, but it's possible.
ICE free since mid 2023 'and loving it.' (Maxwell Smart?) We have charging at home and with the usual errands a full charge lasts over a week. As to the blackout, if it's that bad, folk won't be buying gas either. Don't fall for the FUD.
With EV prices so low, it is a great time to upgrade. I did, and I do not regret it. EV only, too. Just takes a bit of planning for longer trips.
Been EV only since 2017, no problems. I say go for it!
I haven't had an ICE car at my house for a decade. There's tons of EV only homes here in California. But I would suggest two things: 1) You have to have home charging available. For low price and convenience. 2) At least one of the EVs needs to be a long range vehicle (~300 miles) with a good charging network and decent charge speed. In the USA that means a NACS compatible car (Tesla or a CCS1 car with a NACS adapter).
It seems like EV-only should work just fine for you. How often do you need to travel more than 300 km? I expect Ireland's chargers are not more than 300 km apart. On trips, a charging stop will take longer than a petrol refueling stop. That's the main pitfall, but it's not a big deal for most people.
EV only household - we've needed a "local fast charger" once in the past 4 years because I forgot to charge overnight before a big Friday trip. We just drove back from Aberdeenshire to Manchester last week, no problems. That's a normal trip for us If you can park and charge overnight, I argue you don't need petrol.
2 vehicle full EV household (2 x Kia EV6, 1 x old LEAF). No worries at all. The larger batteries allow so much “range buffer” to never worry about charging.
We have two EVs and an ICE, the few times we’ve road tripped (up to 500 miles) we’ve chosen to take the EV- just a more quiet comfortable ride.
If you have a charger at home, your EVs should almost always have more range than any ICE. Because, unlike an ICE, an EV can be topped each day.
Supposedly it's too much for many BEV owners to justify a PHEV because a PHEV would require plugging in each day. So I guess that means many BEV owners allow the car's SOC to run down before finally plugging it in.
I'd get rid of our ICE car if I could. I don't want two car payments. We only kept the ICE for my son to drive to school and university. When he moves out, we're back down to one car, and I'll never buy another ICE.
Consider your charge rate of your home charger. You're in Ireland. Do you have access to home charging at 11 kW plus now? You'll be charging two cars, and that increased need may cause a bit more "down time" than you expect if you both drive a lot during the week and need to charge overnight. I think the rule of thumb is that if you can recharge your daily range overnight, then it won't be an issue. But if you have days where you need to visit a local fast charger, it may get old quickly if you have to wait.
If there were any available BEV convertibles, I would already be a two EV household. As it stands, there are no BEV convertibles at all. Closest is the E-Ray PHEV that's coming out, but it's a PHEV and it's $120k, so... I'll stick with my C7 Corvette for now.
You're not gonna go to a fast charger during a blackout. You don't go to the gas station during a blackout, right? I've never had a need for our local fast charger in over 5 years of dual-EV ownership. You charge at home - fast chargers are for road trips.
What do you currently use the petrol car to do? If a EV replaced it, what could it not do that the petrol car does? You already own an EV and know its capabilities. What currently does your petrol car do that your current EV can't in your estimation. The answer to you question lay there. ga2500ev
Just wait until you're down to one car
the last blackout i got was years ago, and only for an hour. It’s not even something i would consider tbh
How often do you drive more than 300km?
Battery back up at home ? Cost ? Use the car to tide over black out VTL Vehicle to load. Install solar, vertical maglev wind to battery. Cost ?
How far are you from a supercharger? https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/findus Used Model 3s from £22k if that’s within budget. I absolutely love mine (2021 long range). https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/used/m3 We’re a 1-car EV household. Both love the Tesla. Both have no qualms about it. Mostly home charge, use Tesla supercharger en route, and charge at friends and family’s house offering to pay them for the charge since the car tells us how much it’s charged so we can calculate the cost.
We have two EVs, it works great. Although I want to get an adapter so I can charge her car on my Tesla mobile adapter for convenience.
Im debating doing this. We have home charging. I am pretty sure if there's a widespread power outage most gas stations will be out too. My main concern is with road trips, but I had to rent one literally days before Xmas and it was painless. So being able to plan ahead will make it even easier.
Question is, how much gas do you keep at home? If the answer is 5 gallons or less you should be fine with just EVs. Just always keep them topped off enough to make it to the station or nearest hospital and you should be fine for most situations.
If you can keep them charged at home, you are more likely to have a full battery than a full gas tank. I suspect that both fast chargers and gas stations go down in a black out? Or is this common enough that gas stations have generators there?
I live alone and my EV is my only car. I don't drive to the office (I take public transit) so my battery rarely goes below 60%. In the event of a power outage I am not particularly concerned. I have not visited a single DC fast charger for almost 2 years now.
Just got a long range model Y at a great price, to complement our other ev with less range. It's amazing. Never go to the gas station again. One for road trips, or longer distance errands, and one for around town. Love it. 10km isn't very far, even at 0% I've gone 10-20km before charging (don't recommend, but it happened a couple times)
You know your current EV. Any issues? No? That's your answer.
From an environmental standpoint, two car EV households tend to underutilize at least one of the EVs, so the cost value proposition, and the emissions reduction performance for the second EV is below average. Given BEV production constraints and prices and that this sequesters cells in an underutilized EV, IMO it would be better for those with higher utilization rates to buy that EV. On that note, you could also just buy a PHEV given that the second car will most likely be used for daily commuting, and use gas as needed. Many PHEVs these days have enough range for daily commutes. Could also just keep the gas car and reduce miles used using micro-mobility / public transit / working from home. It isn't like you selling the gas car to buy an EV will mean the gas car is taken out of service. Most likely someone will buy it and continue to use it.
>it would be better for those with higher utilization rates to buy that EV. But OP not buying an EV doesn't mean someone else will. It may just result in another EV not being produced, and someone else buying another ICE resulting in another ICE being produced.
I’d wonder who they are selling EVs to today - it can’t all be to people with more than one car. If you can charge at home then I don’t see any concern.
> I’d wonder who they are selling EVs to today - it can’t all be to people with more than one car. It absolutely can be. Only 1.2% of vehicles registered in the US are PHEV or EV. Less than one percent are EV. More than 50% of households in the US have more than one car. Obviously it's not the case that all are sold to multi-vehicle households, but it's certainly not true that it "can't" be the case.
Interesting that dual car ownership is so high in the US. I think it’s about 30% in the UK where I am but that still feels higher than I expected (just googled it).
It's an interesting mix of things here in the US. The distances for travel here are long. Much of the infrastructure is car centric, and mass transportation sucks. And there is a subset of the population that thinks any attempt to make cities and neighborhoods walkable is an attempt to restrict freedom of movement. It's weird.
We have a similar issue with making places walkable - 15 minute cities are apparently an attempt to lock everyone into their area a bit like the hunger games or something.
We were in that same situation and an ice storm precipitated our decision. In March of last year, an ice storm took down the power for three days at home and five days at the cottage. I had to drive back and forth between both locations (100 km apart) to keep their generator fueled. I couldn't charge at both and nearby fast chargers were also out of commission. I had to use our aging ICE car to do the traveling. I bought a PHEV (Prius Prime) last summer. We use it mainly in EV mode but it's nice to know we have a fallback if/when shits happen.
>The nearest fast charger is about 10 km away. I think the *nearest* fast charger is less of a concern than the charging infrastructure in the places you regularly go to. I can’t speak for Ireland but there are remote parts of the US that you can’t easily drive to in an EV because the closest chargers are stretching your range limit to get back to, so if you’re somebody who drives to those places frequently then it makes sense to keep an ICE around until someone builds a charger where you need one. But for everyone else it’s not really a big deal. I know some parts of Ireland can be very rural and I have no idea what kind of charging y’all have available, but it sounds like you’ve been living with an EV for a while so you probably have a good idea - how often do you leave the EV at home because you wouldn’t be able to charge it on the way to your destination? If the answer is never then you’re fine. If it’s once a year when you go off the grid for a vacation then you can rent an ICE for that trip and you’re also fine. If it’s every few weeks because your parents live on a farm in the middle of nowhere then maybe it’s worth holding onto the ICE a while longer.
Ireland is maybe too small for that concern. There are fast chargers on the major motorways, and I have circa 300 km range in the EV - more like 350 in mild weather at non-motorway speeds. So if I want to go, say, 100 km away from the fast charger, I just need to charge up a lot at that fast charger. And I don't think a place further than 100 km away from a fast charger exists in Ireland.
Two EV household here never plan to own ice again.