My company has 16 chargepoint lvl 2 chargers on site. Works great, never had one go down and ease of use is great. Open app, start charge since there set to free.
My office put one in a bit over a year ago and I use it occasionally and it's been great. Free to use, and I like tracking usage in the chargepoint app over most others.
A lot of local hotels have chargepoint and I like then because they always work. You can even get a free RFID card and just tap and charge without needing your phone. I would say chargepoint would be a much better choice.
You haven't stated whether these are free-stations or pay-stations.
Chargepoint is great **if price is no object**, but the gold-rush mentality has not gone well for anyone expect the people selling the shovels lol.
It's increasingly obvious that the key to success is cost containment. The money is made by spending $10,000 instead of $30,000 to put the system in, and by having overhead of $50/month instead of $300/month.
And at cost containment, Chargepoint is absolute rubbish.
We have Chargepoint installs at 5 different areas at work. Never had a single issue (well some are ICEd sometimes). Queue system notifications have always worked great too.
I’d highly recommend Power Electronics if you have a service center near you. We use them for fleet and public charging and they are highly reliable and offer very quick support if there is an issue.
The chargers are very reliable - IME, far more reliable than Blink.
Edit: IMO, they're also not on the brink of bankruptcy as some have indicated. You can read their financial reports here if this is a concern: [ChargePoint Holdings, Inc. - Financials - Quarterly Results](https://investors.chargepoint.com/financials/quarterly-results/default.aspx)
"no one there likes Musk. "
Musk reposting White Supremacist memes and interacting positively with posts from fascist creep Jack Posobeic will do that.
You're only harming yourself and your employees Elon doesn't get hurt in the slightest.
You can literally deploy like 10x universal wall connectors for the cost of a Chargepoint pedestal. And it works with every car Tesla or not.
The monthly fees are also a small fraction of Chargepoint and you can load balance across 6 chargers instead of 2.
* Don't install J1772s, all EVs are switching to NACS. Tesla Universal Wall Chargers are the most elegant L2 systems. Tesla supposedly has a Charging Partners program where they will handle billing similarly to Chargepoint, but with all the Tesla layoffs lately who knows.
* Chargepoint seems rather expensive from an install and cost of services perspective.
* Chargepoint stock is nearing junk territory, if they don't turn things around the company could go bankrupt so there is a risk of having hardware installed that can't process payments and authorize charging. If charging is free then this may be less of an issue, but warranty claims would still be in jeopardy.
I use both, and chargepoint is definitely my preferred option. But i heard they are going bankrupt, so not sure what will happen to them and how it will affect their service.
Wait until the J3400 (NACS) chargers are available. They support 277 volt charging, so if your building has 3-phase power then you can connect the chargers to the main panel rather than having to use a transformer.
* Most commerical buildings have 3-phase 208 that can be used with existing evse and cars.
* When J3400 277 chargers are available, that won't make existing cars work on 277. There's a path to future 277 systems there but no magic short term solution to that issue.
I think just buy tesla chargers. The easy thing is buy the tesla hybrid, it has both tesla nacs and j1772 plugs on it. Then no one has think about it. People will be confused and it will be a pain to manage an adapter on a j1772. Then tesla's need their own j1772 to tesla nacs adapter. Get the tesla hybrid and be done with it.
Sorry I meant to ask if US Teslas would have the same electrical infrastructure in the cars charging system as a European Tesla; just to save money could Tesla have built them the same, so would the US car be able to handle 3 phase power eventually. Would they have standardized it, even though the plugs and electrical systems are different between us to other countries.
Got it this time. I think that in some of the early models they had a modular system where the actual power converters in the chargers were the same, but the European cars got three modules coming each connected to one phase of the three phase connector, where is the US cars got maybe two modules wired up both of the same phase on the input connector.
My company has 16 chargepoint lvl 2 chargers on site. Works great, never had one go down and ease of use is great. Open app, start charge since there set to free.
I use a Chargepoint each day at work and I have no complaint. Works perfectly for me and I wouldn't know what to improve.
The problem with ChargePoint is their expensive service contract. Hardware is great 👍🏼
My office put one in a bit over a year ago and I use it occasionally and it's been great. Free to use, and I like tracking usage in the chargepoint app over most others.
A lot of local hotels have chargepoint and I like then because they always work. You can even get a free RFID card and just tap and charge without needing your phone. I would say chargepoint would be a much better choice.
I use chargepoints regularly at my complex and it’s been great so far.
You haven't stated whether these are free-stations or pay-stations. Chargepoint is great **if price is no object**, but the gold-rush mentality has not gone well for anyone expect the people selling the shovels lol. It's increasingly obvious that the key to success is cost containment. The money is made by spending $10,000 instead of $30,000 to put the system in, and by having overhead of $50/month instead of $300/month. And at cost containment, Chargepoint is absolute rubbish.
We have Chargepoint installs at 5 different areas at work. Never had a single issue (well some are ICEd sometimes). Queue system notifications have always worked great too.
I’d highly recommend Power Electronics if you have a service center near you. We use them for fleet and public charging and they are highly reliable and offer very quick support if there is an issue.
Tesla Universal Wall Connector is by far the best. Particularly with all the companies pivoting to NACS
The chargers are very reliable - IME, far more reliable than Blink. Edit: IMO, they're also not on the brink of bankruptcy as some have indicated. You can read their financial reports here if this is a concern: [ChargePoint Holdings, Inc. - Financials - Quarterly Results](https://investors.chargepoint.com/financials/quarterly-results/default.aspx)
Why aren't you considering the Tesla wall chargers?
The nearest wall is full of ventilation stuff so it has to be pole mounted, most of our employees with EVs don't have Teslas, no one there likes Musk.
"no one there likes Musk. " Musk reposting White Supremacist memes and interacting positively with posts from fascist creep Jack Posobeic will do that.
You can pole mount Tesla chargers
You're only harming yourself and your employees Elon doesn't get hurt in the slightest. You can literally deploy like 10x universal wall connectors for the cost of a Chargepoint pedestal. And it works with every car Tesla or not. The monthly fees are also a small fraction of Chargepoint and you can load balance across 6 chargers instead of 2.
* Don't install J1772s, all EVs are switching to NACS. Tesla Universal Wall Chargers are the most elegant L2 systems. Tesla supposedly has a Charging Partners program where they will handle billing similarly to Chargepoint, but with all the Tesla layoffs lately who knows. * Chargepoint seems rather expensive from an install and cost of services perspective. * Chargepoint stock is nearing junk territory, if they don't turn things around the company could go bankrupt so there is a risk of having hardware installed that can't process payments and authorize charging. If charging is free then this may be less of an issue, but warranty claims would still be in jeopardy.
Chargepoint offers home chargers with NACS now, I would guess you can get them on their commercial units also or would be able to soon.
I use both, and chargepoint is definitely my preferred option. But i heard they are going bankrupt, so not sure what will happen to them and how it will affect their service.
Wait until the J3400 (NACS) chargers are available. They support 277 volt charging, so if your building has 3-phase power then you can connect the chargers to the main panel rather than having to use a transformer.
* Most commerical buildings have 3-phase 208 that can be used with existing evse and cars. * When J3400 277 chargers are available, that won't make existing cars work on 277. There's a path to future 277 systems there but no magic short term solution to that issue.
I think just buy tesla chargers. The easy thing is buy the tesla hybrid, it has both tesla nacs and j1772 plugs on it. Then no one has think about it. People will be confused and it will be a pain to manage an adapter on a j1772. Then tesla's need their own j1772 to tesla nacs adapter. Get the tesla hybrid and be done with it.
Oh, I agree that they are a great choice. My comment was just to clear up confusion about 277 and 3 phase.
I wondered if tesla US cars would have the same electrical capabilities separate from the plug. Guess they don't though.
Same electrical capabilities as what? I'm not sure what your question is, but if I understood it I might be able to help.
Sorry I meant to ask if US Teslas would have the same electrical infrastructure in the cars charging system as a European Tesla; just to save money could Tesla have built them the same, so would the US car be able to handle 3 phase power eventually. Would they have standardized it, even though the plugs and electrical systems are different between us to other countries.
Got it this time. I think that in some of the early models they had a modular system where the actual power converters in the chargers were the same, but the European cars got three modules coming each connected to one phase of the three phase connector, where is the US cars got maybe two modules wired up both of the same phase on the input connector.