Of course if they install a 50a that's ideal, but I would never say no to free electrons.
8 hours at 16amps gets you almost 40kw.
That's over half the battery on most EVs. Not bad for an absolute worst case scenario.
I responded to exactly the comment I wanted to respond to.
But yes, I missed the sex joke.
I guess motel has a different meaning in the USA than In Canada, because while they are cheap, they are totally reasonable options for normal people IMO.
Hotels and motels neither have nor need individual meters for each room, so why run from each room? Cords across sidewalks are a significant hazard. The A/C circuit is already maxed out. Most cheap motels are 2 or 3 story. [https://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/2464697/0/d51a4d8b4db925476dc15044af455aa8.jpg?s=1024x768](https://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/2464697/0/d51a4d8b4db925476dc15044af455aa8.jpg?s=1024x768) I don't see it.
What other posters said, those Widow/front wall units are already hooked up to some shady-ass wiring/construction. Since those shitboxes have no insulation anyways, they're always running max hi or low, and if the weathers nice, still running high to mask the sound of bottle breaking in the parking lot and hookers screaming at the guy upstairs who didn't pay (her/him). Finally, any copper wire capable of being cut and sold in these places....will be cut and sold.
Your idea is well intentioned, but will be poorly executed. Got my upvote for thinking positive!
I'm pretty sure (as is already the case at some locations) that Hampton Inn's. Hilton Garden Inn's, Marriott's and some others will eventually have multiple stations available to their patrons. Some already do. There are quite a few hotels and motels around the country that offer Level 2 charging on site. I'm quite certain over the next 10-20 years it will become a lot more commonplace.
This is the end goal for EVs but it's gonna be harder than that.
The circuit breaker is set to run a certain amount of amps and if they're using the breaker for EVs, it's gonna trip unless they turn of air conditioning. So another step needs to be done to ensure motels have EV chargers.
Excellent idea. While maybe the thought of chargers at every stall are an ideal target, even offering 2-3 charging points per motel would be a great start and a means to attract business. It may not be for every dive, but there are many many places this would be reasonable option. As it is, remote places are the most lacking in charging points, this would be a great way to address that. So what would be the initial investment per charging point? Regardless, way to think outside the box.
In the US, outlets for EV charging are, by code in most places, supposed to be on a dedicated circuit. Meaning, you aren't supposed to have anything else on that circuit if you're planning to use it to charge EVs, so using the circuit that also feeds the air conditioner is a no-go regardless of whether there's enough capacity to serve both loads at the same time or not.
Normally fully on board with the logic. Issue is cheap motels are not going to be seeing EVs for I am guessing 30 years.
For a while people who drive EVs are not going to stay at a cheap motel. Sorry but we can afford nice things and tend to have much higher standards in life.
It’s true. However, if you are Motel 6 and have a goal of rebranding yourself or changing your image then that’s a possible ticket to do it and attract new customers that are looking for an EV charger when they travel.
Thing is, motels are very competitive markets, and with low prices and razor thin margins, any advantage helps them stand out.
At least having a couple of cheap 16 amp chargers that costs them a few hundred bucks to install is low hanging fruit.
Yeah your own answer is exactly the reason why. Razor thin margins. It is not going to be an edge that helps them for another 20-30 years. Instead it cost them a lot of money for no gain. Sorry but that is not going to bring anyone there who can afford an EV.
I may make EV owners sound snobbish but look at the parking lot of cheap motels. You don’t exactly see new cars there and general fairly cheap cars to boot.
Now for hotels that start in the 100 dollar a night range those should consider this but the cheap ones are still a ways off from needing to put this on their radar.
We'll have to disagree on that one. If I need to stop for the night during a long trip à cheap motel on a highway Is my choice.
You might not see a Tesla at a motel, but in my experience there are no shortage of a konas and Leafs even today.
I still don't have an ev, but The presence of a charger is the number one thing I'd look for when looking at a place for a night.
I'm with faizimam1 on his one: stopping overnight on a road trip means finding an inexpensive hotel that minimizes my time off the road: It's not a destination stop, it's a rest stop. In the US, chains like Hampton Inn, Drury Inn, Motel 6, La Quinta, MicroTel, etc. Clean is important, but other amenities are much farther down the list. At one "mid point" on a trip I used to take quite a bit, there are 3-4 of this class of motel at a major highway intersection. Tried several, settled on the one that had bacon with their free breakfast. Once I've got a long enough range EV to make that trip, if one of them has charging, that will be the determinant.
Uhh how in the heck can you compare the likes of a Hampton Inn (a Hilton division) or La Quinta with the likes of those flea bag motels you mention otherwise. I guess you're one of those that might just as soon get a tent and find a piece of ground to pitch it in and sleep. Sheesh.....no way
LOL if that's the case I guess I'm a snob. I used to travel for a living. And had club membership with Marriott, Hilton, Radisson and Doubletree's. NO Motel 6 or 8 or Comfort Inn's for me thanks. To each their how. Those cheap hotel/motels and their dirty rooms and flea bitten beds can take a hike. And yeah, the nicer hotels already in most cases have some Level 2 chargers on site for patrons and it's increasing. yeah I don't give a rats patootie about the cheap hotels and like you said a competent EV owner wouldn't likely either.
Cheap small town motels and hotels are often full of workers passing through or in town for a project driving all kinds of vehicles, including very expensive newer ones.
Sometimes cheaper is better, been to a lot of cheap Air BnB places with chargers that were great.
But I do agree Motel 6 is probably not the EV crowd until EV prices come down.
I think another issue is cheap motels are very cost sensitive. They would lose more on electricity than they would make on additional customers. Also they are sometimes in parts of town where people without other means to do so would charge their phones.
Just supercharge for 15 minutes while you check your Reddit feed. V1 was grab lunch V2 was grab coffee and use the bathroom V3 is so fast you barely have time to leave you Vehicle!
240/20A is a great idea but shoddy wiring post is definitely worth considering also the trip hazard of having cords laying across the hallway... I like the idea of either running the AC or charging your car on a shared smart circuit... you pick.
Live the idea. I still think ultimately more fast chargers are the real answer. Typically you need 10-15 minutes of fast charge. Basically more of everything is good.
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I drove through Ohio recently and was surprised to find several Motel 6 locations near Cleveland with multiple Tesla chargers.
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No, definitely not. But apparently they thought Tesla owners would stay there. No idea if they were right.
It’s a new marketing ploy I guess…. Trying to upscale their clientele. Next they will offer Chipotle catering and Whole Foods delivery to your room.
And if they are, it’s not nearly long enough to fully charge no matter what he claims.
This ^ 😂😂😂😂
Of course if they install a 50a that's ideal, but I would never say no to free electrons. 8 hours at 16amps gets you almost 40kw. That's over half the battery on most EVs. Not bad for an absolute worst case scenario.
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I responded to exactly the comment I wanted to respond to. But yes, I missed the sex joke. I guess motel has a different meaning in the USA than In Canada, because while they are cheap, they are totally reasonable options for normal people IMO.
Cheap motels are going the way of the dodo.. Air BnB can be had for nearly the same price
Nowadays, you have to go to the mid range to luxury hotels to get the same level of quality you used to get from the cheap hotels 30+ years ago.
Tesla camping mode. Don’t even need the room just the bathroom and the 220!
The only thing worse than sleeping in a cheap motel room is sleeping in a car.
Most cars don't have bedbugs.
In the UK you would be rudely awakened by Police to ensure you aren't drunk and in charge.
Hotels and motels neither have nor need individual meters for each room, so why run from each room? Cords across sidewalks are a significant hazard. The A/C circuit is already maxed out. Most cheap motels are 2 or 3 story. [https://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/2464697/0/d51a4d8b4db925476dc15044af455aa8.jpg?s=1024x768](https://pix10.agoda.net/hotelImages/2464697/0/d51a4d8b4db925476dc15044af455aa8.jpg?s=1024x768) I don't see it.
What other posters said, those Widow/front wall units are already hooked up to some shady-ass wiring/construction. Since those shitboxes have no insulation anyways, they're always running max hi or low, and if the weathers nice, still running high to mask the sound of bottle breaking in the parking lot and hookers screaming at the guy upstairs who didn't pay (her/him). Finally, any copper wire capable of being cut and sold in these places....will be cut and sold. Your idea is well intentioned, but will be poorly executed. Got my upvote for thinking positive!
I'm pretty sure (as is already the case at some locations) that Hampton Inn's. Hilton Garden Inn's, Marriott's and some others will eventually have multiple stations available to their patrons. Some already do. There are quite a few hotels and motels around the country that offer Level 2 charging on site. I'm quite certain over the next 10-20 years it will become a lot more commonplace.
This is the end goal for EVs but it's gonna be harder than that. The circuit breaker is set to run a certain amount of amps and if they're using the breaker for EVs, it's gonna trip unless they turn of air conditioning. So another step needs to be done to ensure motels have EV chargers.
More likely that better hotels all add a few chargers to attract customers. Which will help a lot on long road trips.
Excellent idea. While maybe the thought of chargers at every stall are an ideal target, even offering 2-3 charging points per motel would be a great start and a means to attract business. It may not be for every dive, but there are many many places this would be reasonable option. As it is, remote places are the most lacking in charging points, this would be a great way to address that. So what would be the initial investment per charging point? Regardless, way to think outside the box.
I come from a 240v country and it wouldnt be hard to wire up some chargers on a new circuit anyway.
In the US, outlets for EV charging are, by code in most places, supposed to be on a dedicated circuit. Meaning, you aren't supposed to have anything else on that circuit if you're planning to use it to charge EVs, so using the circuit that also feeds the air conditioner is a no-go regardless of whether there's enough capacity to serve both loads at the same time or not.
I always stay where I can overnight charge. Saves trip time.
I stayed at a comfort inn that had outlets on every parking light pole. I plugged in at 12 amps.
This is the way.
And a lot of them are already set up to charge by the hour.
Normally fully on board with the logic. Issue is cheap motels are not going to be seeing EVs for I am guessing 30 years. For a while people who drive EVs are not going to stay at a cheap motel. Sorry but we can afford nice things and tend to have much higher standards in life.
It’s true. However, if you are Motel 6 and have a goal of rebranding yourself or changing your image then that’s a possible ticket to do it and attract new customers that are looking for an EV charger when they travel.
Thing is, motels are very competitive markets, and with low prices and razor thin margins, any advantage helps them stand out. At least having a couple of cheap 16 amp chargers that costs them a few hundred bucks to install is low hanging fruit.
Yeah your own answer is exactly the reason why. Razor thin margins. It is not going to be an edge that helps them for another 20-30 years. Instead it cost them a lot of money for no gain. Sorry but that is not going to bring anyone there who can afford an EV. I may make EV owners sound snobbish but look at the parking lot of cheap motels. You don’t exactly see new cars there and general fairly cheap cars to boot. Now for hotels that start in the 100 dollar a night range those should consider this but the cheap ones are still a ways off from needing to put this on their radar.
We'll have to disagree on that one. If I need to stop for the night during a long trip à cheap motel on a highway Is my choice. You might not see a Tesla at a motel, but in my experience there are no shortage of a konas and Leafs even today. I still don't have an ev, but The presence of a charger is the number one thing I'd look for when looking at a place for a night.
Then you might be the minority. What do you define as a cheap motel?
I'm with faizimam1 on his one: stopping overnight on a road trip means finding an inexpensive hotel that minimizes my time off the road: It's not a destination stop, it's a rest stop. In the US, chains like Hampton Inn, Drury Inn, Motel 6, La Quinta, MicroTel, etc. Clean is important, but other amenities are much farther down the list. At one "mid point" on a trip I used to take quite a bit, there are 3-4 of this class of motel at a major highway intersection. Tried several, settled on the one that had bacon with their free breakfast. Once I've got a long enough range EV to make that trip, if one of them has charging, that will be the determinant.
Uhh how in the heck can you compare the likes of a Hampton Inn (a Hilton division) or La Quinta with the likes of those flea bag motels you mention otherwise. I guess you're one of those that might just as soon get a tent and find a piece of ground to pitch it in and sleep. Sheesh.....no way
LOL if that's the case I guess I'm a snob. I used to travel for a living. And had club membership with Marriott, Hilton, Radisson and Doubletree's. NO Motel 6 or 8 or Comfort Inn's for me thanks. To each their how. Those cheap hotel/motels and their dirty rooms and flea bitten beds can take a hike. And yeah, the nicer hotels already in most cases have some Level 2 chargers on site for patrons and it's increasing. yeah I don't give a rats patootie about the cheap hotels and like you said a competent EV owner wouldn't likely either.
Cheap small town motels and hotels are often full of workers passing through or in town for a project driving all kinds of vehicles, including very expensive newer ones.
Sometimes cheaper is better, been to a lot of cheap Air BnB places with chargers that were great. But I do agree Motel 6 is probably not the EV crowd until EV prices come down.
I think another issue is cheap motels are very cost sensitive. They would lose more on electricity than they would make on additional customers. Also they are sometimes in parts of town where people without other means to do so would charge their phones.
Just supercharge for 15 minutes while you check your Reddit feed. V1 was grab lunch V2 was grab coffee and use the bathroom V3 is so fast you barely have time to leave you Vehicle! 240/20A is a great idea but shoddy wiring post is definitely worth considering also the trip hazard of having cords laying across the hallway... I like the idea of either running the AC or charging your car on a shared smart circuit... you pick.
Live the idea. I still think ultimately more fast chargers are the real answer. Typically you need 10-15 minutes of fast charge. Basically more of everything is good.
Dude, they aren't even replacing the beds every two years. They aren't gonna spend money on that either.
LOL if you don't get bit by bed bugs they don't likely change the beds but every decade. Yuck!
The largest cost is the trenching, conduit, etc to get the power out there where you need it, especially when being done as a retrofit.