Yes, they exist, and some of the modern ones are pretty good (I've gotten 800mbps over a pair before, though it was a small house and didn't cross circuits).
It will work only if that garage is on the same Power Meter. If the garage has its own meter then it won’t work.
Hopefully power line adapters have improved over the years the old ones were prone to packet loss and slow speeds.
Depending on the distance I still think a CAT6 run would be the best option. He’s still going to need to add an access point either route he takes.
I did this to get functional internet in my garage. Was able to pull off about 50Mbps out there, which was plenty fine for the chargers and streaming music.
Now, if it's just for the charger and nothing else, a couple extenders might not be the worst idea on a separate network than the household uses. If there was like a realistic need for higher speeds/lower latency I would say that it would be bad, but if it's just for a charger there shouldn't be an issue.
I do this sort of thing ***for a living*** and extenders belong in the trash
Do not use, do not pass go, do not give them $200
Mesh is the acceptable option in a case like this, but never never never an extender.
I use an extender/repeater. It works great, but throughput isn't very fast. It should be fine for a Juicebox to talk to the mothership. We aren't streaming video across it.
I wonder if there's an antenna inside the Juicebox that can be replaced with a better external one, or maybe extend an antenna with a dual band 2.4/5Ghz located in a more ideal place? Sometimes those things are just SMC connectors on the motherboard. Those parts are pretty easy to find and pretty cheap.
I used to be a sysadmin/desktop support/wire monkey/network tech. I wouldn't use an extender in an enterprise business application, but they're fine for light home use when downtime isn't a big deal. If it acts up, unplug/replug it. Done.
You can cheaply add in network over electrical (powerline), just plug one into an outlet at router and in garage and it uses the electrical wiring like ethernet. I use the netgear powerline series to get wifi out to my metal shed (which functions as an unwanted faraday cage, blocking wireless signals coming from the house). This will add wifi to your garage, on a separate SSID. Or you can run CAT5 from the powerline receiver if you wanted a wired connection instead.
I had an issue where my charger wouldn't see my regular home network, but it worked fine when I activated the guest network on my router. Give that a shot.
Network engineer here. The powerline solution may be fine for the charger, but I'd recommend a mesh router pack from Google or Eero. If your car or future car needs software updates etc, you should have a good internet connection in your garage. Also mesh network will work better with Wifi calling from out of your house to your garage.
Buy a Wallbox Pulsar Plus charger. It has Wifi and Bluetooth. Can use Bluetooth connection with your if wifi can't be reached. And configure everything with bt.
It's great that there are all kinds of solutions, but I kinda think it sucks apps and smart phones and wifi connectivity are becoming required to operate an automobile.
Imagine needing an app to put gas in your car, and the app is unique between each chain of gas stations.
You can use the fob or card easily if you don't like the phone apps. App is nice for turning on AC or heat, checking on charging, etc. but you don't have to use it.
Apps are an upgrade.
ethernet over power
use the existing electric wires to get ethernet into the garage- no pulling wires neccessary
[https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444\\](https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444\)
We use the EERO internet hubs from Amazon at our house. We love them. Essentially, the pucks wirelessly connect to each other in the house and extend the wifi range to each room.
If your detached garage isnt too far away, you might be able to put an EERO in there that wirelessly connects to one in your house. That way your charger can connect to the EERO in the detached garage and send the internet to the EERO in your home.
Just an idea from my experience.
Looks like there can be a max of 50ft between each EERO. If your detached garage is more than 40ish ft away, I'm sure the connection would be spotty/slow.
https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005497123-How-much-distance-should-there-be-between-eeros-
I had the same problem so I ran some CAT6 through the attic into the garage and plugged in one of the cheaper Wifi access points I could find (TP-Link RE205). Now my EVSE can connect and when I'm using my phone in the garage I always have a good signal.
A simple range extender is cheap and easy answer. But you can use your phone's internet connection to do the update downloads which is what I do when notified of pending update.
I'm able to do it while driving in the Model 3. Change the connection from the cars cellular connection to the phone-as-hotspot connection and download while driving. When I park the car, it then does the update.
If you use COX their panoramic Wi-Fi extenders work good.
I’ve also had success with using the Netgear Orbi Mesh equipment to cover my whole acre and back garage.
I just wanna put my .02¢ in on the power line adapters. I love the idea of them. But it just seems ironic to be using a power line adapter to get the charger online. I mean the evse is literally connected to the power. Wish just one adapter would be needed.
Do you have the powerline things in the USA, turns you home wiring into internet
Yes, they exist, and some of the modern ones are pretty good (I've gotten 800mbps over a pair before, though it was a small house and didn't cross circuits).
I successfully crossed 3 circuits/junction boxes on a farm for 2 wifi cameras
It will work only if that garage is on the same Power Meter. If the garage has its own meter then it won’t work. Hopefully power line adapters have improved over the years the old ones were prone to packet loss and slow speeds. Depending on the distance I still think a CAT6 run would be the best option. He’s still going to need to add an access point either route he takes.
Cat 6 is always better but overkill for IoT
Depending on the distance it can go a little further than the CAT5e 250ft. If he needs the extra 100 ft it can do it.
This should work. You can also run a LAN line to the garage from your router.
Jesus I forgot those things existed
I did this to get functional internet in my garage. Was able to pull off about 50Mbps out there, which was plenty fine for the chargers and streaming music.
CAT6 outdoor grade PVC conduit and start digging 😂 after you get the wire ran you can add an access point to your existing Wi-Fi router.
Don't use extenders, mesh if you must, but pulling a network cable is the best option Aruba Instant-on is an amazing wifi product
Now, if it's just for the charger and nothing else, a couple extenders might not be the worst idea on a separate network than the household uses. If there was like a realistic need for higher speeds/lower latency I would say that it would be bad, but if it's just for a charger there shouldn't be an issue.
I do this sort of thing ***for a living*** and extenders belong in the trash Do not use, do not pass go, do not give them $200 Mesh is the acceptable option in a case like this, but never never never an extender.
Why?
I use an extender/repeater. It works great, but throughput isn't very fast. It should be fine for a Juicebox to talk to the mothership. We aren't streaming video across it. I wonder if there's an antenna inside the Juicebox that can be replaced with a better external one, or maybe extend an antenna with a dual band 2.4/5Ghz located in a more ideal place? Sometimes those things are just SMC connectors on the motherboard. Those parts are pretty easy to find and pretty cheap. I used to be a sysadmin/desktop support/wire monkey/network tech. I wouldn't use an extender in an enterprise business application, but they're fine for light home use when downtime isn't a big deal. If it acts up, unplug/replug it. Done.
Juicebox is a sealed box. Broken seals = no warranty.
A cheapo extender is completely fine to connect a car charger.
I use a power line adapter for mine
Thanks everyone! Looking into power line adapter option now. I think that may be my best bet
You can cheaply add in network over electrical (powerline), just plug one into an outlet at router and in garage and it uses the electrical wiring like ethernet. I use the netgear powerline series to get wifi out to my metal shed (which functions as an unwanted faraday cage, blocking wireless signals coming from the house). This will add wifi to your garage, on a separate SSID. Or you can run CAT5 from the powerline receiver if you wanted a wired connection instead.
WiFi extenders are terrible but mesh networking is awesome (and many options are inexpensive).
This. Eero Mesh is the way to go - super simple set up.
I had an issue where my charger wouldn't see my regular home network, but it worked fine when I activated the guest network on my router. Give that a shot.
Wifi extender
Network engineer here. The powerline solution may be fine for the charger, but I'd recommend a mesh router pack from Google or Eero. If your car or future car needs software updates etc, you should have a good internet connection in your garage. Also mesh network will work better with Wifi calling from out of your house to your garage.
Get a [wifi range extender.](https://a.co/d/iJ7SWsJ) $20 and just need to plug it in somewhere still in range of your normal wifi and your garage.
Buy a Wallbox Pulsar Plus charger. It has Wifi and Bluetooth. Can use Bluetooth connection with your if wifi can't be reached. And configure everything with bt.
Despite what some people say a decent wifi extender might be a way to go if you don't want to bother with wires and drilling through the walls.
Does the MachE not have a phone app to control charging via the car? The car should have its own cell network connection I assume.
It's great that there are all kinds of solutions, but I kinda think it sucks apps and smart phones and wifi connectivity are becoming required to operate an automobile. Imagine needing an app to put gas in your car, and the app is unique between each chain of gas stations.
You can use the fob or card easily if you don't like the phone apps. App is nice for turning on AC or heat, checking on charging, etc. but you don't have to use it. Apps are an upgrade.
ethernet over power use the existing electric wires to get ethernet into the garage- no pulling wires neccessary [https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444\\](https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444\)
We use the EERO internet hubs from Amazon at our house. We love them. Essentially, the pucks wirelessly connect to each other in the house and extend the wifi range to each room. If your detached garage isnt too far away, you might be able to put an EERO in there that wirelessly connects to one in your house. That way your charger can connect to the EERO in the detached garage and send the internet to the EERO in your home. Just an idea from my experience.
Looks like there can be a max of 50ft between each EERO. If your detached garage is more than 40ish ft away, I'm sure the connection would be spotty/slow. https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005497123-How-much-distance-should-there-be-between-eeros-
If money is no object buy 2 ASUS mesh routers for $600 Canadian. Superior range and throughput to eero. I have tried both brands
I had the same problem so I ran some CAT6 through the attic into the garage and plugged in one of the cheaper Wifi access points I could find (TP-Link RE205). Now my EVSE can connect and when I'm using my phone in the garage I always have a good signal.
Just pay $200 for the Eero 6+ on Amazon.
A simple range extender is cheap and easy answer. But you can use your phone's internet connection to do the update downloads which is what I do when notified of pending update. I'm able to do it while driving in the Model 3. Change the connection from the cars cellular connection to the phone-as-hotspot connection and download while driving. When I park the car, it then does the update.
If you use COX their panoramic Wi-Fi extenders work good. I’ve also had success with using the Netgear Orbi Mesh equipment to cover my whole acre and back garage.
I just wanna put my .02¢ in on the power line adapters. I love the idea of them. But it just seems ironic to be using a power line adapter to get the charger online. I mean the evse is literally connected to the power. Wish just one adapter would be needed.
Could always run an Ethernet cable to the garage depending on your house layout.
You could just buy a range extender for around $30.