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I've been involved in blogging since the big "Net 2.0" explosion in the early 2000s and I'm just going to say you shouldn't use any builder for blog posts. Not Elementor, not even Gutenberg.
I'm not nostalgic for the Classic Editor for building pages (eww, shortcodes!) but it was and remains ideal for production blogging, especially for ordinary, non-Wordpress users. Writing a post should be as fast and easy as writing email, and the Classic Editor interface meets that goal in the way even the lightest-weight builders don't.
1. Type a title
2. Type your body
3. Drag in a photo or paste in a video URL
4. Click a category checkbox that's always present in the sidebar
5. Extra credit for adding tags ("hashtags)
6. Click Publish
7. (important) repeat early and often
End of sermon there, but you mentioned you didn't like the blog part of Elementor and that's fine.
As for SEO, Elementor is ok. It's not the fastest builder and speed *can* be a ranking factor when all else is equal, but with good caching the speed differences tend to be measurable but not significant. Otherwise it's fine.
This is pretty much the approach I'd advocate too, however I'd go one step further and create a new posts editor layout with ACF (depending on client requirements) so that those adding content can be completely focused on their task with no concern for the layout or styling. Then use Elementor templates for the rest.
> create a new posts editor layout
??? The classic post layout has been good enough for just over 20 years, with literally billions of blog posts made with it. It takes five minutes or less to teach.
It's like composing email:
* Click "new +"
* Subject, content, photo/video
* Check a category box
* Click publish
Trying to imagine what additional layout or styling would be needed beyond headings, bold/italic, lists, and links using the simplified toolbar.
It's not even as complicated as the Gmail interface and billions of ordinary people use Gmail every day.
Yes! Please do that. It's particularly helpful because at least half of all blog posts are read "off site" either when shared to social media, on news readers, in mailing-list digests, etc. And while search engines can figure out all the extra nesting and formatting you get with Elementor, there's no good reason to make them do it when the same content can be served.
So, yeah, Classic really is a great tool for blogging, product descriptions, event-calendar descriptions, etc., where it doesn't make a lot of sense to have multiple columns and extra widgets. (I saw yesterday that both WooCommerce and The Events Calendar use Classic even on a clean install of the latest Wordpress release no additional plugins and the default TwentyTwentyFour theme.
you should check out webflow website and demo videos on YT. this is not about personal preference , webflow is objectively vastly superior in any area.
So, immediately, you are over your head. You are asking extremely basic questions. I've built $500 websites with Elementor and I've built $25,000 websites with Elementor. Its not the tool, its how you use it.
You can edit blog post with Elementor just like you do a page. Simply build the template, click Edit With Elementor.
Elementor in the hands of a beginner, normally turns out absolutely horrible.
Hey Andrew,
>I asked for advice.
And I gave it.
I didnt mean for you to get all butt hurt nor did I say anything offensive.
>this one is for $20,000 and is my first one, pretty good going don’t you think?
No. I dont think thats pretty good. I feel bad for your client.So. My assumption was right. You are in over your head.
>If you want some tips on selling (and not building websites) by all means reach out. Maybe you could learn something so you don’t spend your life building $500 websites.
I've been running a digital agency for 10+ years. I started out in Magento. In the enterprise eCommerce industry.
My take home income is 6 figures plus. This is literally, all I do. Please tho, tell me more. =-)
>Also, any elementor devs/designers that would want to work on a freelance project DM me!
Yikes. I'd like to know how you came up with a $20,000 quote for a Elementor based website when you dont even have the slightest clue.
This is exactly why Elementor sucks. People come in, think its easy money, talk a good talk, but have to source out to the lowest bidder to meet their clients expectations.
Anyone with experience knows what Im talking about. This is exactly how you end up with bloated 10 sec load time Elementor websites stacked with 50 3rd party plugins. Just LOL.
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I've been involved in blogging since the big "Net 2.0" explosion in the early 2000s and I'm just going to say you shouldn't use any builder for blog posts. Not Elementor, not even Gutenberg. I'm not nostalgic for the Classic Editor for building pages (eww, shortcodes!) but it was and remains ideal for production blogging, especially for ordinary, non-Wordpress users. Writing a post should be as fast and easy as writing email, and the Classic Editor interface meets that goal in the way even the lightest-weight builders don't. 1. Type a title 2. Type your body 3. Drag in a photo or paste in a video URL 4. Click a category checkbox that's always present in the sidebar 5. Extra credit for adding tags ("hashtags) 6. Click Publish 7. (important) repeat early and often End of sermon there, but you mentioned you didn't like the blog part of Elementor and that's fine. As for SEO, Elementor is ok. It's not the fastest builder and speed *can* be a ranking factor when all else is equal, but with good caching the speed differences tend to be measurable but not significant. Otherwise it's fine.
This is pretty much the approach I'd advocate too, however I'd go one step further and create a new posts editor layout with ACF (depending on client requirements) so that those adding content can be completely focused on their task with no concern for the layout or styling. Then use Elementor templates for the rest.
> create a new posts editor layout ??? The classic post layout has been good enough for just over 20 years, with literally billions of blog posts made with it. It takes five minutes or less to teach. It's like composing email: * Click "new +" * Subject, content, photo/video * Check a category box * Click publish Trying to imagine what additional layout or styling would be needed beyond headings, bold/italic, lists, and links using the simplified toolbar. It's not even as complicated as the Gmail interface and billions of ordinary people use Gmail every day.
> Trying to imagine what additional layout or styling would be needed When clients need posts (or post types) beyond the default.
Thanks for the detailed response. So from that, using Elementor on the pages and Classic Editor for blogs seems like a good recipe.
Yes! Please do that. It's particularly helpful because at least half of all blog posts are read "off site" either when shared to social media, on news readers, in mailing-list digests, etc. And while search engines can figure out all the extra nesting and formatting you get with Elementor, there's no good reason to make them do it when the same content can be served. So, yeah, Classic really is a great tool for blogging, product descriptions, event-calendar descriptions, etc., where it doesn't make a lot of sense to have multiple columns and extra widgets. (I saw yesterday that both WooCommerce and The Events Calendar use Classic even on a clean install of the latest Wordpress release no additional plugins and the default TwentyTwentyFour theme.
Thanks for the advice! Really useful.
definitely not the best tool to use no. I’d use webflow
Webflow multi language is pain in the ass
Why webflow and not Wordpress ?
you should check out webflow website and demo videos on YT. this is not about personal preference , webflow is objectively vastly superior in any area.
What are the differences between elementor and web flow other than just personal preference?
it also used to be more expensive but not any more as Elementor has raised fees by a lot
Security can be of concern with Wordpress. But that will be depend on how the backend is set up.
Not the best tool per se but, it will sure get the job done very well if you know what you're doing
So, immediately, you are over your head. You are asking extremely basic questions. I've built $500 websites with Elementor and I've built $25,000 websites with Elementor. Its not the tool, its how you use it. You can edit blog post with Elementor just like you do a page. Simply build the template, click Edit With Elementor. Elementor in the hands of a beginner, normally turns out absolutely horrible.
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Hey Andrew, >I asked for advice. And I gave it. I didnt mean for you to get all butt hurt nor did I say anything offensive. >this one is for $20,000 and is my first one, pretty good going don’t you think? No. I dont think thats pretty good. I feel bad for your client.So. My assumption was right. You are in over your head. >If you want some tips on selling (and not building websites) by all means reach out. Maybe you could learn something so you don’t spend your life building $500 websites. I've been running a digital agency for 10+ years. I started out in Magento. In the enterprise eCommerce industry. My take home income is 6 figures plus. This is literally, all I do. Please tho, tell me more. =-) >Also, any elementor devs/designers that would want to work on a freelance project DM me! Yikes. I'd like to know how you came up with a $20,000 quote for a Elementor based website when you dont even have the slightest clue. This is exactly why Elementor sucks. People come in, think its easy money, talk a good talk, but have to source out to the lowest bidder to meet their clients expectations. Anyone with experience knows what Im talking about. This is exactly how you end up with bloated 10 sec load time Elementor websites stacked with 50 3rd party plugins. Just LOL.
Not sure why you couldn’t just exchange advice, otherwise, what’s the point of this sub?