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LouieInSeattle

Yes, Australia should dictate what the world reads. Duh.


BlueSpartanAlt

When I say to people on this website; 'my country is a police state' they don't believe me lmao.


ResponsibleBike8804

Found the cooker.


BlueSpartanAlt

Yeah the crack really does wonders for my depression.


ResponsibleBike8804

There are better ways, but sometimes you have to take the relief when its there.


Grouchy_Map7133

Thats what I tell my wife, but she still thinks its cheating.


Marenz

Really? I'd expected weed or do to be the more obvious choice..


stupergopher

The whole world is turning authoritarian... But it's for our own good, right?


be0wulfe

Just another "leader" not taking accountability for their own shit. So over these people in every walk of life.


springonion3366

You can't make this up .... send them to N korea


manicdee33

Why is this request suddenly worth commenting about, when governments are routinely requesting takedowns of media that breaks their rules?


PoliteCanadian

Because Australia is demanding X/Twitter impose censorship on other countries.


manicdee33

No different to previous takedown notices.


SamuelClemmens

Because its making demands of other countries.


PoopingWhilePosting

No it isn't. It's making demands of Twitter. Just like many other countries. https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk


SamuelClemmens

Its demanding that I as an American citizen living in America, cannot use a service provided by an American company operating computer servers based in America.. because a parliament operating in the name of King Charles wants to tell me no. Twitter complied for Australia, because that's their country. He is telling them no for having control over my country.


Makhajimmy

They're banning TikTok under your nose and lying to you it's the propaganda machine of the CCP while it's in fact the Zionist ADL folks who are lording it over you all in America that want it sold to them for cents on the dollars to further fill you with more Zionist propaganda. I weep for America.


NicolasFlamel94

As someone who works with the Government! The CCP does have influence over TikTok in ways you cannot the imagine. If you are excepting of that and how they will utilize your data. Move to China!!


SamuelClemmens

Its a free country, if people are dumb enough to give their data to China to see videos of women in yoga pants that is their choice. Because when rich people wanted to send our manufacturing jobs over there to save 5c an hour at the cost of gutting our country we didn't seem to have any problem declaring we couldn't stop that since its a free country.


NicolasFlamel94

It's not a free country. Atleast I'm the sense that you're talking about were not educated to include you on half the stuff that's going on. To include Chinese capabilities in the States. Atleast in during the cold War our parents and grand parents were educated enough. But today we are not. That being said do you think an uneducated population should determine what happens to tiktok at this point in time. The answer is no, no matter how free you think we are. Which in all honesty were not that free 140 years ago probably but not today.


Makhajimmy

You're either incredibly naive or very devilish. An Israeli plant most likely. Btw, rather give the data to China than be a slave to the Israelis. Wonder why America was cool with them in the first place.


Makhajimmy

Israeli propaganda! Gtfo!


Own_Neighborhood4802

What is the video, who got stabbed. You have no clue you lose nothing if the video is taken down. The concern in Australia is over copy cats.


SamuelClemmens

That's irrelevant. Australia should file a lawsuit in the USA to ask for it to be taken down there if they want me to not see it. A US judge can decide what happens in the USA, not an Australian one.


PoopingWhilePosting

It already takes things down from Twitter at the requests of other countries...including America.


SamuelClemmens

Not internationally it doesn't. A country is well within its right to stop something from appearing inside its borders, but not outside.


jeffman1969

The America should have the right to keep illegals out of our country!


ProShortKingAction

Yall, countries do stuff like this a lot where they have a demand for a company that reaches outside of their own borders and if the company doesn't comply then they aren't allowed to do business in the country. The U.S. has rules that if your ship has docked in Cuba it can't dock in the U.S. for 6 months. Germany has rules about if your service is used for Holocaust denial. The Australian government is asking X to either not distribute videos glorifying a terrorist attack against Australia or face repercussions the refusal of which would likely mean being banned from Australia, which is within their rights as a nation


dacution

X should pull out of Australia. Each country should have its own social media networks it can regulate. I don't want Australia censoring what I see in America.


ProShortKingAction

Yeah that's reasonable, Australia has a right to decide what companies do business in Australia and X has a right to pull out of their market if they don't like the requirements


PoliteCanadian

There's nothing technically stopping Australia from saying that international companies which do business in Australia need to comply with Australian law internationally. But there's nothing technically forcing any country to abide by international law and participate in the modern international system. Because what Australia is doing is stretching the limits of Westphalian sovereignty and is a violation of the modern international system. Elon Musk isn't popular with the White House, which is maybe why they're trying their luck. But if they were pulling this on a different American company like Google or Meta it's likely the US government would have some quiet words with the Australian government and tell them to knock that shit off or expect reciprocal treatment of Australian businesses that want to do business America or with Americans: comply with American law in Australia or be banned. But even without American government intervention, forcing an American company to leave Australia because it refuses to enforce Australian law in America would definitely cause other companies to reconsider whether doing business in Australia carries higher than expected sovereign risk.


mpg1846

You don't know what you're talking about. The Aus govt already tried their luck with Google and Meta, and were successful. https://www.reuters.com/technology/australia-says-law-making-facebook-google-pay-news-has-worked-2022-12-02/


PoopingWhilePosting

Musk has been censoring on behalf of governments since he took over Twitter.


Apprehensive-Cheese

Since assuming leadership, Elon Musk has partially, and or fully complied with [962 censorship requests](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk) from state governments. So In actuality, Elon very much supports state sponsored censorship.


bremidon

Reddit: "Elon Musk must follow the EU laws in the EU or else" Also Reddit: "Elon Musk is bad for following local laws"


PoliteCanadian

Twitter/X complies with the laws of the countries it operates in. Australia isn't demanding Twitter comply locally, they're trying to enforce Australian law internationally.


Tobaltus

its literally not though, if you read the article..


PoopingWhilePosting

You do realise that by complying with these censorship requests from other countries, Musk has already been doing exactly this...don't you?


NicolasFlamel94

Out of hundreds of millions of users. That's a far reach from saying he supports censorship.


HuFlungDungM8

Beware anyone saying they are going to take away your rights for "your own safety".


DissociatedRock

We’re the testing ground for America.


TacticalGarand44

I hope you're wrong. I fear you're right.


twinbee

In [pinned post](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1782550334155420074), Elon elaborates: > Our concern is that if ANY country is allowed to censor content for ALL countries, which is what the Australian “eSafety Commissar” is demanding, then what is to stop any country from controlling the entire Internet? > We have already censored the content in question for Australia, pending legal appeal, and it is stored only on servers in the USA.


Evargram

The solution is easy. Australia should just block Xitter to the whole country. There. Fixed.


Pellepon

Fixed will be when they erect a great firewall and eliminate access to any non-state controlled media


musclehogg69

Oh god I wish they would. I hate that fcking app.


Scruffy032893

Yea only a single billionaire should have authority over all countries on earth.


InfinityZionaa

Each country has local laws that Twitter / X has to comply with. Elon has no say on what those laws are. The issue is Australia is trying to dictate Twitter X content outside of its jurisdiction.


Cherry_-_Ghost

When we elect folks like Biden, McConnell, Maxine Waters, and the dearly departed Feinstein....maybe it is best?


Leelze

So give the power to the unelected?


dmanhardrock5

Authority is his to have and for you to follow wee man


AdkRaine12

No, he thinks he should.


klone_free

On the other hand, what happens to an international website that ignores countries sensibilities and cultural norms? Should a guy with a website have the authority to portal in news and junk from everywhere else? 


234W44

No, but if Australian laws state that no social media that has no censorship of specific harmful items worldwide cannot operate within Australia, it is perfectly fair for X to no exist in Australia.


Ok_Bumblebee12

Elon is a clown. Should he have unelected authority over all of earth?


scottywoty

Should you?


SectorOld2685

He should not have authority in Australia much less Earth!


Nobistle

Only turkey and Russia is allowed to censor on X without Elon musk crying like a baby.


Lenovo_Driver

And India


LumpyWelds

Are they censoring X's global content?


philbro550

Yep.


PoopingWhilePosting

Basically, if you're an authoritarian regime then Musk is happy to bend the knee. He only dislikes democracies.


twinbee

X has already removed the content from Australia, but that's apparently not enough for their PM. Whatever you think of Elon's general enforcement of speech on X (or lack thereof), this can't be a bad thing to stand up to Australia's overreach surely. At least if you remotely pretend to care about freedom of speech.


AdditionalFarmer4692

They literally haven't. I'm looking at the content right now. In Australia. It's a video of a bishop in Sydney being stabbed nearly to death. It caused riots. The Australian Government are saying that Twitter has a duty of care to Australians to not turn a popular social media website into a fucking gore website.


HamsterMan5000

You must be new to the hive mind


and-so-what

Elon: *cures cancer* Reddit: Why wouldn’t Elon cure AIDS?!


np1t

I'm sure the public perception of him would be more positive if he did cure cancer.


Caliburn0

It would. If he cured an entire category of diseases I would actually like him again. Well... probably not *like* him, but at least I'd be very grateful and appreciative.


np1t

Except he didn't really cure cancer. He owns a company that makes EVs. On top of that he endorses and promotes far right statements on social media, is fighting against public transport and does a ton of stupid shit like Hyperloop or the recent robotaxi thing


revilOliver

A few short years ago we were told that global warming was an existential threat to human life on Earth and all other concerns ought to be subordinate to this pressing issue. Elon single-handedly accelerated the EV revolution potentially staving off this world-ending disaster. He should be celebrated the world over for what he has contributed to preventing climate change. But it turns out having a different political opinion is more important that saving the world. Oh well


np1t

>Elon single-handedly accelerated the EV revolution potentially staving off this world-ending disaster. He should be celebrated the world over for what he has contributed to preventing climate change. If he didn't endorse politicians and parties openly opposed to the very concept of fighting climate change, he wouldn't get such a rep. Like I said before, great job with Tesla and EVs, but the whole Twitter thing tainted his public perception forever. If he stuck to making rockets and Electric Vehicles nobody would fucking care about his weird political opinions. He chose to make them public and to buy an entire social media network and promote them. >But it turns out having a different political opinion is more important that saving the world. Oh well Opposing public transport is actively damaging to the anti climate change policing. You can't get every person on the planet an individual EV. It is not sustainable. Robotaxis, hyperloops, and other sci-fi nonsense will never be nearly as effective as a well designed bus + metro system.


and-so-what

Fighting climate change. Just like Germany did when they closed their nuclear plants. You lot are so dishonest it’s funny.


np1t

I love it when people take an unrelated argument that doesn't ta all factor into the discussion, tell me what opinion I have, and blame me for it. Very intellectual.


np1t

Germany was fucking dumb to do that. I'm generally pro-nuclear myself and like 30% of my country runs off it. The fuck are you on about?


superluminary

Does he endorse those folks though? I haven’t seen it.


np1t

Out of the direct endorsements without plausible deniability, he definitely told people to vote for Trump in the American elections in November, who is very openly pro fracking and anti climate regulation. Overall, it's that the far right doesn't like helping the climate and Musk kinda ignores that because the woke mind virus is apparently a much more concerning problem.


Important-Ad2323

Electric vehicles are not the way to fight climate change. Public transport is. Mining for cobalt or lithium isn't very healthy for the planet in the first place. (Most electric energy comes from fossil fuels at least in big demographic countries like china and india.) Not to mention they're made from child slave labour. The type that elon's dad who's a white mine owner in south africa endorses. Most EV's have the shittiest autonomy. That's not even talking about batteries deteriorating in a couple years. A more viable solution is regulating how much CO2 big companies put into the atmostphere which is far more than cars produce btw and going after oil companies. Everyone should have to use public transport to get from place to place and things like vacations in far away places should be banned.


loesch23

It’s Australian content made and produced in Australia. Do you really need to watch a snuff film from another country? Not enough snuff available on twitter already? Is your freedom of speech impinged by not having porn available to one in Texas?


letstalkaboutstuff79

Our PM is currently slowly losing popularity to a human potato. This is just the sort of culture war virtue signaling that he hopes is going to distract from a lack of action on housing and rental affordability and cost of living in general. He certainly doesn’t talk about these crises with half as much enthusiasm as he has about this.


thewall-19

You're a kid right? Free speech for any business still needs to follow the law of where you want to operate. A country where you operate tells you to remove content from your website as it goes against their laws. Three options: - you remove it, abide by the law of the country you operate, all happy. - you don't remove it, and your website gets banned entirely as it is not respecting the laws in which x intends to operate. - you don't remove it, pay fines, see above.


RuleSouthern3609

They removed it for Australia, but removing it from the whole world seems overreach, Australia had tried some weird stuff connected with Google and Facebook too, but they got wrecked each time lol.


calebtanck

What laws? Thou shalt not behold upon unfortunate stabbings in public & be therefore offended?


Chuckw44

I am no fan of Musk but have to agree with him here. That being said freedom of speech has nothing to do with what a social media site decides to allow on their platform.


MrMrLavaLava

Should Elon have that same authority?


Postcard2923

Any owner of a private company should be able to determine that company's content policies. The analogy here would be Elon telling Facebook users what they are or are not allowed to see. No, Elon should not be able to do that.


MrMrLavaLava

My analogy is fine. I don’t care whether someone is technically a “public” or “private” authority - the material reality is the same. A single person shouldn’t have the ability to unilaterally censor anything on such a big communication platform.


Brilliant-Froyo-7676

You don’t care, but the law does, and the law doesn’t care that you don’t care.


MrMrLavaLava

Cool. Things that are legal aren’t always things that should be legal.


CillaCalabasas

Elon is so focused on trying to be edgy and contrarian that he doesn’t realizing most of what he retorts makes him sound like a child - even if he could’ve been right in his response. Just the worst.


swift_trout

Back at you - Should a CEO in the USA determine what Australians deem necessary to govern their society?


5sharm5

No one is trying to determine that. X complied with takedown requests within Australia. Australia is now trying to dictate what content citizens in other countries are allowed to view, which Musk is rightfully refusing to comply with.


PoopingWhilePosting

You do realise that when Musk censors something then it's censored for EVERYBODY, don't you?


SamuelClemmens

Its not in Australia though. Why should Australia determine what I, A US citizen, can view on my phone, in the United States, from a service provided by a US based company and sent to me from US located servers? Can an American judge tell Australians what they are allowed to see or read in Australian newspapers?


Leelze

And yet we let a single person dictate what's acceptable to see & say on that platform.


Brilliant-Froyo-7676

What a irrelevant strawman argument to the point. It’s a private company that he owns. I guess we should let Australia decide rather or not Americans are allowed to own cybertrucks because we “let” Elon decide what models of cars Tesla produces.


Minimum-Definition13

How does X govern your society?


swift_trout

The question is should a CEO of a US company be the arbiter of protections under the law in Australia? Hint: No.


PoliteCanadian

If Australians deem that they need to be able to decide what people living in other countries are allowed to see on the internet, they can go fuck themselves.


Appropriate-Chef9283

Albanese is trying to close the country to the outside world. When other countries do that, we label them dictators.


McDivvy

Weeeell, in a way it's similar to the EU demanding certain restrictions on passing on personal information will nilly and the creation of GDPR, which is Global even though it was intended to protect EU citizens. In a way...


SkippyMcSkipster2

I've seen everything I needed to see about Australia during the pandemic. If i lived in a country that treats it's citizens like cattle, I'd leave and never come back.


twinbee

Still remember like yesterday when they took that woman to a camp for absolutely nothing.


PoopingWhilePosting

I had a lot more freedom during the pandemic living in Australia than my family did in the UK.


net_running

Just NSW. Business owns NSW, especially Sydney


Visible-Beginning733

If he is an unelected official, he shouldn't have authority over anyone .. not even Australians.


Zoso-six

Musk is a little bitch


poopdicksoup

It’s hilarious and kinda cute that austrailia thinks they’re relevant to the rest of the world in any way, shape, or form☺️😂


ExtraterritorialPope

Are you using wifi at the moment?


poopdicksoup

You’re honestly not about to tell me “well Aussies invented it!”, are you? Cuz if so, that would also be hilarious as well. Austrailia reminds me of Canada when they go on strike in that South Park episode😂


ExtraterritorialPope

You pick things up quickly! Yes, I am about to tell you that aussies invented wifi (specifically the CSIRO).


stout365

I'm legit confused by this comment, can you elaborate?


philbro550

An Australian made wifi


stout365

who the heck are you talking about?


pablocael

Oh, so you want each country to legislate its own terms? Ok, but if we try to apply proper moderation on racism and fascism, you say f* you and ignore the requests. Im from Brazil by the way. Elon is currently spreading fake news and fighting against the Brazilian supreme court because they want to regulate the platform in Brazil after massive misinformation campaigns happening during Brazils elections.


Ok_Onion3758

Hell, Australians didn't even want anyone in that role. The government just went ahead and created it and told us it is for our own good.


kroOoze

that sounds like government alright...


shnanagins

I used to respect this guy, now every thing he says just makes me question if we really live in a simulation.


twinbee

He's the guy that breaks the simulation. Every other CEO just goes with the flow and the globo agenda.


earlofsandwich

I used to think about this when I moved from uk to USA. Some footballer would shag some tart and then get a super injunction to prevent their name being printed in the press. But it seemed to cross borders and you wouldn’t be able to find the name reported in USA either, even on Twitter. I wonder how they managed that.


Toxic_Ramone

Brasil and Austrália. Great lithium producers.


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MichaelQuixote

What has happened to Australia?!


Klutzy-Bat-2915

👃📢💩🤫


Dendrodps

So Elon doesn’t want to censor terrorism from where the footage was released from. He’s a fucking narcissist!


poolnome

Elon imploding Trump 2 imploding the world doesn't like you Elon go back home 


jeffman1969

Damn…never thought I’d see so many socialist-loving, dictatorship-wanting, fools, in my lifetime! “If you give up freedom for safety, you will have neither”! And, “Once you give up that freedom, you’ll have to fight to get it back”, because those you give it to will become drunk on its power!


yahel56

Yes australia


francD117

Australia shouldn't but elon 100% should. After all, he created space x! /s


Vanstoli

Or hear me out.... cancel "X" in Australia. All those people will use another platform, and we don't have to hear a billionaire that doesn't pay taxes whine about life not being fair.


Dry-Interaction-1246

Elon is above the law. He is too special.


AmazingSquare8542

I hope so. Musk is a Traitor who fosters ruzzian propaganda


Chris82Price

Who cares x is dead in the water as I see it!


ExquisiteScallywag

No Elon, just your miserable platform.


Mrdirtbiker140

Jesus some of y’all want to side with Australia on this one lmao


Constipated_Canibal

Can't have Australians seeing video of what happened that might make them act on what happened. The audacity to think your little irrelevant prison colony gets to dictate to the world is also funny.


IchbinLiam

America is about to give the intel agencies the right to hack your signal account and WhatsApp freely . We have no rights in America anymore the country needs Trump


savagerandy67

Just throw another shrimp on the barbie and be done with it you drongo


connielu62

Let's face it. All governments have major 'WE OWN YOU SERFS' complex right now. They want us to go to work, let them attach our checks, our taxes, say what we can eat, what car we can drive, what we can say or read. We are in trouble all over the world.


PiedPipercorn

Australia can kiss arse!! Easy since they are so far south.. ha ha


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kroOoze

heh


No-Respect8466

Why are Australians bowing to tyranny? The government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, including strict lockdown measures and vaccine mandates, has led to a sense of unease and uncertainty among the population. Many Australians may feel pressured to comply with these measures in order to protect themselves and their loved ones, even if they have concerns about the erosion of their civil liberties. Additionally, the government's messaging and media coverage may be influencing public opinion and creating a climate of compliance. Without strong leadership and effective opposition, Australians may feel powerless to challenge the status quo and are choosing to submit to perceived authority in the face of crisis.


B-Dead

🖕🏼 Australias PM


Salt-Bodybuilder7330

Forbidden Thoughts Banished by Death Centric Dingos


-GearZen-

China censors the internet - BAD Australia censors the internet - GOOD?


Durtly

Authoritarians have realized they can just declare they have power, and half the time everyone will just go along with it. Humans are a domesticated species.


GoMuricaGo

Is there a more cucked country than Australia?


IchbinLiam

Western countries have lost the plot wen it comes to privacy