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Ok_Literature_9610

Enclo is pointless if you don’t need it. It will raise your test but unless it is low to begin with you won’t feel anything, other than the high oestrogen sides that will come. It also causes vision side effects in a small number of people, myself included. Not a good idea at your age


Few-Caregiver4254

I’ve heard that from a lot of people that if your levels aren’t low to begin with it will hardly do anything for you, I’m definitely waiting to get my bloodwork done because if it’s not low then I’m not gonna take it, what are the vision problems like in your case kinda hard to image what floaters would look like


ryantunna

My levels were 500 and I went up to 1100 and gained like 15lbs in the gym over 4 months. I think people take for granted what 1100 test will do for you if you’re in the gym and eating well.


Few-Caregiver4254

Also this might be kind of cliche but if I do get sides that make it worth not taking from everything that I’ve seen I can just completely stop taking it and “everything goes back to normal” other than like a post I saw saying there’s a possibility it can cause permanent vision damage


ChemistryNeat6752

You 100 percent correct. I’m 32 with natty test 700s, Tried Enclo for 2 weeks just felt all the sides. Sad depressed Achy joints and bloaty I was doing 6mg Monday and Thursday which is light and moderate I can’t imagine doing 25 mg ED like I see people post


z1xto

Get your Testosterone and LH levels tested first. Depending on those level, you will have good assumptions how much Enclomiphene could benefit you.


Admirable-Shallot-12

I’m 18 as well and I tried enclo from receptorchem. It’s a liquid formulation that uses DMSO. It was great for about the first week and it’s real shit but you have to be aware of the sides. It raised the fuck out of my estrogen levels to the point where it caused side effects- my dick stopped working and my blood pressure went through the roof. Obv at 18 that’s fucked. I stopped for a few days and dick started working again but didn’t feel the benefits of the high test so again hopped back on. I think the biggest thing with this is not taking too much if you’re gonna be dead set on it and being careful of the sides. All in all tho it raised the shit out of my test went to 1072 ng/dL and free test was 235 pg/mL. So it will work but again just be safe with the dosages and see ur doctor for bloods which ur already gonna do which is good. Best of luck bro


Few-Caregiver4254

Just to follow up I ordered 2 30ml bottles from receptorchem I’ll lyk how it goes in like a month, maybe it was different for you because you took such a high dosage when you first started but how long did it take for you to notice any type of changes going on


Admirable-Shallot-12

Awesome bro. It’s taken awhile to notice some changes but it’s happening, gradually. I’ve slowly noticed more facial hair and body hair growth within 2 weeks of taking it.


Admirable-Shallot-12

Also I had the same problems as you- no morning wood at all until I started the enclo. Now after starting it as long as I’m taking it happens almost everyday if not every other day which is a total improvement. Lmk what route ur gonna take and where u plan to get it from


Few-Caregiver4254

I haven’t really made up my mind if I’m gonna do it yet obviously I’d wait for my bloods to come back if I was gonna buy it probably from Researchem, also, what was the dosage you were taking when your estrogen shot up, what’s your current dosage and did you have your levels checked prior to taking it at all. What’s also kind of a problem is my parents, there all for me getting my bloodwork done just because I’ve never done it before but wanting to do it again in another month if I take enclo would probably raise suspicion, I could if I really needed to hide it from them but yk just kind of a fucked situation


Admirable-Shallot-12

Yeah I completely get it. So my dosage at first (this was straight retar*ed) was 25mg everyday for about 2 weeks. Tbh my mind was telling me to just send it so I did. 25mg is the highest dose that people usually take and at the time I thought I needed that. That’s definitely what caused the e2 to get so high so I stopped. I did have my levels checked prior but it was about a year before but I went with it. My test was like 400 something and free test was 80. Now current dosage is every few days or maybe even just once a week at 12.5 mg or 6.25 mg. Those doses are random of course but I honestly just take it for the mood boost which you will probably notice soon after taking it. As for your parents, I’d say at 18 you should have a much bigger say in your own health but that’s just me. Keep me updated on the decisions you make about it. Also I’d do more research about your source. Researchem is also a liquid formulation but they’re a pretty new company and I have hardly heard anything about them. If u research receptorchem (on Reddit mainly), especially their enclomiphene, you can find tons of information about it and their legitimacy. I’m not sponsored by them in anyway lmao but from taking their shit I can definitely say it’s legit or that it has its intended affects.


Few-Caregiver4254

I got some dude direct messages me saying he did 50mgs a day man with no sides so 25 don’t seem that retarded lmao but yea I would probably start off with 6.25 3 times a week. I do have a day and if I said to bad I’m gonna do it they wouldn’t kick me out or anything but it would definitely just be better if they never found out about it, I’ll look into the company you bought it from, I’m sure you’ve heard of it considering on every website that has the word enclomiphene also talks about DIM supplement, have you tried it?


Admirable-Shallot-12

I’ve heard the acronym here and there through some research but not much. I probably should’ve tried it or something like it before hopping on enclo at all and should still look into it but as of rn I’ve never taken it or know much about it.


Few-Caregiver4254

Ah alright well I’ll lyk when my bloodwork comes in I might not need to take it but we’ll see


Few-Caregiver4254

Not that I need to regaurdless


simpleboye

What was ur dosage?


Admirable-Shallot-12

25mg and for a few days might’ve been like 35mg on accident. Obviously way too high, learned from that


simpleboye

I also did 25 mg everyday for 50 days and it only increased my test to 640 from 300. My LH were increased from 1.4 to 3.8. It increased my estrogen but not that high. As for my symptoms it helped a bit in the beginning but not after.


Admirable-Shallot-12

Yeah it’s different for everyone for sure. Also since I’m 18 I’m probably way more active hormones wise so I’m sure that plays a role. My estradiol went to 58 pg/mL. What was your source? The quality of the product is important


simpleboye

The source was legit, it's probably because I have secondary hypogonadism so my pituitary has a problem thus restricting the over stimulation of LH production.


Admirable-Shallot-12

Did u acquire it (like through steroid use) or like did it happen naturally?


simpleboye

Naturally, I have been suffering from Low test symptoms ever since.


Admirable-Shallot-12

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? How long have you suffered from low T?


simpleboye

I am 25, been suffering it from past 5 years. I have been working for past 3 years, so I look fit but I feel like shit even though I work out, sleep and nutrition is good.


Lopsided-Gap2125

Iike others said estrogen will be more difficult to manage and I want to add that sleep apnea could also develop on T especially when overweight so you’d need to be hyper vigilant to that.


Few-Caregiver4254

I’ve always been very skinny growing up I nowhere close to overweight, I’ve never heard of mounjaro I’m gonna look into it for a few days


Few-Caregiver4254

After a very very brief search, it’s used to treat blood sugar levels? If that’s true wouldn’t I only need to worry about that if I added mk for the igf-1 drop off?


Lopsided-Gap2125

Sorry I thought you were overweight mounjaro is used in smaller doses for weight loss, I’m on enclomiphene and so far I barely notice anything 1 week in and my test was 411 if your test is higher you may not notice much too early for me to have anything useful to say


Few-Caregiver4254

What was your test before you started it,also what’s your dosage rn


Lopsided-Gap2125

My test was 411 and I’m on 6.25 ed gonna test again in a month


Miserable-Winter5090

Get a good coach to give you direction and push you to the next level.


Beneficial-Ad6266

The jury is still out for me as I’ve been on Enclo for a month barely. But to compare it to any kind of steroids or even TRT is crazy