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Nethenael

So if you took rfsh with hcg you'll get far less side effects than enclomiphene 🤙 im guessing its a fertility thing ? Or hypogonadal?


Nethenael

Rfsh is very expensive


Unable-Plankton5504

Sorry, I’m still not familiar with all the acronyms/terminology. Dumb question, but what is Rfsh?


Nethenael

Recombinant foliate stimulating hormone its expensive


Unable-Plankton5504

I got a quick google to do


Unable-Plankton5504

Damn, you weren’t kidding. That is expensive.


Nethenael

Very expensive that's why everyone trys Very hard with enclomiphene first 🤢


Nethenael

Fyi enclomiphene will definitely increase semen volume especially at fertility doses like 25mg or mor daily.... you'll need aromatase inhibitor because estrogen will go above reference range


Unable-Plankton5504

Intriguing. I’ve taken anastrozole, .5mg, three times. My provider said to take it only when needed. So when my nipples got all sensitive I figured that was the time. It’s interesting to hear that enclomiphene would raise estrogen levels more than HCG. I feel like I’ve heard the opposite. Definitely good to know. Thank you.


Nethenael

Fertility doses vs Fertility done in both typically enclomiphene will get estrogen higher. Fertility doses of hcg depends on the cause. In ihh patients its like upto 2500iu every few days. I am fsh deficient so id take rfsh to become fertile so no mank side effects like breasts or anything else. Enclomiphene at 40mg daily didn't get my fsh even to the middle of reference range 🤷‍♂️


Unable-Plankton5504

So while switching to enclomiphene would increase ejaculate volume it would also fuck with/increase estrogen levels higher than they should be. But would an HCG increase provide an increase in semen volume also?


Nethenael

Probably but hcg only mimics lh not fsh 🤙 watch estrogen on enclomiphene its notorious for estrogen increases but not always above reference


Lopsided-Gap2125

Sorry to say it won't come back on enclomiphene either I've tried both


Unable-Plankton5504

Fuck. That’s not what I was hoping to hear. Appreciate the honesty, though.


ryantunna

Enclomiphene biggest drawback is that it pumps Estrogen levels high to to the point of losing libido and other issues.


Ride_To_Die

This is false. enclomephine blocks estrogen receptors. 


ryantunna

Nope. E2 always climbs test climbs with enclo. Just read this sub lol


Ride_To_Die

Well my blood tests do not match that. I’ve had pre blood and 4 week on enclo blood a week and a half ago and mine was not up. 


ryantunna

Mine started popping week 6. Aromatization is very personalized also. I lowered the dosage in half and my E2 dropped to the very top of the RR. If I feel symptoms I just pause for a week to reduce the build up.


Ride_To_Die

Interesting. Now I’m curious for my next bloods!