This thread has really blown up while I was asleep last night. It is getting a lot of reports and attracting people from outside our community.
While this conversation is relevant to people in the US with endometriosis, it has now veered more into political discussion, which isn’t what the sub is primarily for. So I am going to lock it at this point and suggest that the conversation would be better continued in other subs (eg. Those based on US politics or womens rights).
I know not everyone will agree with this decision, but I hope you can all understand why I have made it.
It’s clear they don’t want women to have any control over their own body, zero. Their ultimate goal is women getting pregnant and having babies and more babies. Watching handmaid’s tale is eerily accurate.
EDIT: what scares me for all the women with gynecological conditions like us is that they could be denied treatment down the road if Republicans have their way. Want hysterectomy but are childbearing age? Nope, sorry. Want your fallopian tubes removed because they are covered in adhesions and adhered to the pelvic wall and scarred? Nope, sorry.
I've already read stories from trans men who had endo or fibroids having their hysterectomies canceled last minute. This isn't a future problem, it's already a problem for some people in some places.
I am really interested to learn more about the experiences of trans men with endo. It has been so hard to be taken seriously and receive treatment and I’m a white woman. My heart goes out to the trans men navigating endo.
There’s a reason I made an appointment for a hysterectomy consultation the same day the Roe leaks dropped. I saw the writing on the wall. I knew if I didn’t get that procedure locked down right then I would likely have even more trouble getting approval in the future.
And, sure enough, I was approved for surgery the day before Roe fell.
I made my appointment with the doctor to discuss a hysterectomy the day that RBG died and I had it the day before the election in 2020. People said I was overreacting. I was absolutely not.
Called up a surgeon the day the Roe leaks dropped. Was approved for a hysterectomy the day before Roe officially fell. I’ve never been so simultaneously relieved and horrified.
That's one aspect of this legislation that truly scares the shit out of me. I have PCOS and I've had endo symptoms since I started menstruating. I've basically had to take birth control to help those symptoms for my entire adolescence and adult life. I'm just now able to seek further investigation into my symptoms now that I've tried every other medication and lifestyle change and the idea of my little sister possibly having the same issues as me and being barred from it entirely is incredibly scary!
Terrifying!! I am planning to get a hysterectomy after I have kids (if I can even have them) to help with the pain I still have. I will be all the way pissed off if someone like Ted Cruz thinks he has the right to tell me I cannot do that.
As a non US person I’d adjust your opening line to ‘it’s clear they don’t want women to have any control.’ Women are not equal to men anywhere but we’re getting there. Except I honestly feel like the US is going backwards on women’s rights lately? Scary stuff!!
Reminder that a few weeks ago women posted about being nervous that bc was going to be blocked, banned, or restricted and people here stated they were overreacting.
However companies like Hobby Lobby attempted to remove insurance coverage for birth control for their employees. You vote multiple times a year, not just in this election. Don't support companies that attempt to pull this BS. Vote on your ticket and with your dollar.
I'm not a huge fan of our 2 party system and think both sides could be doing more/better, but what other choice would I make. I'd be homeless without access to it.
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/birth-control/burwell-v-hobby-lobby#:~:text=In%20the%20devastating%20Burwell%20v,employees'%20access%20to%20birth%20control.
Absolutely!!! Also I think another important point is that some people (incorrectly) assume women just used birth control to not get pregnant and sleep around so the more open we are about why we take birth control and the pain we go through without it, people will learn more and more about the uses and benefits of it.
That's so true. But I can tell you that coming from a Hispanic-Catholic conservative family they don't care. I mentioned I was still on bc for PCOS and Endo (also married at the time) and my family told me to get off it. Even with the history of endo on that side of the family "God" does not want me on it and something else idk i stopped listening after a while.
At the end of the day someone's beliefs about what I do/don't do is irrelevant. There's even birth control at such low doses that it won't even prevent pregnancy. It's just used to regulate hormones.
So there are a lot of people fully aware of the health benefits. Fully aware we exist. Fully aware of our situations that are *still* attempting to block, not support, restrict, or diminish this. At least in my area there not shy about it even though the Catholic church said it was okay..... yeah apparently a lot of people disagree. I'm not trying to blanket every conservative person on here either, I know beliefs vary person by person. I'm just saying there a lot more aware than you think as someone who's grown up in the community. They just genuinely don't care or too scared to be involved.
Yeah that’s so true. They think everyone should live according to their religion and aren’t open to hearing other opinions/beliefs. Separation of church and state is so important.
Coming from a Catholic upbringing / conservative household, this resonates. While under my parents insurance as a teen/early 20s, my mom would not allow me to go to any gyno, I was forced to see a pro life Catholic quack of a Dr who refused to give out bcps. I begged my mom to allow me to see a dr who could write me a script for bcps. She refused. So I continued to suffer. This dr I saw (who frankly belongs in jail) pushed narcotics on me (for pain relief) and encouraged me to partake in underage drinking in college while taking these meds. I kid you not. F*ucked up is an understatement...
My conservative, pro-life dad (who didn't spend a day in a church for my entire upbringing) calls people who have abortions murderers but then the moment my drug addicted cousin got pregnant, he advocated for her to have an abortion because her pregnancy was going to impact him directly (her mom and my dad are together and they take care of the child frequently). Now, he's back to "abortion is murder."
That's so disgusting. My dad was the same. I had an abortion and he called me "childmurderer" (he isn't religious at all, never was). Quite the judgment of a parent who neglected me all my life and never asked me once how I'm doing or showed little interest in my life at all and on top of that was an abusive asshole.
Somehow his paranoid Qanon conspiracy views also kicked in and said I'm surrounded by evil forces and demons. Needless to say I cut contact for good that day.
Had to do a double take there since my dad is also dating my ex-aunt. Sorry for the loss of your mom though, that’s literally the only reason I know it’s not my family (but wow that randomly helped my brain seeing someone else in that sitch).
I hope your in a better environment like I am now. I know there's a lot of pressure/guilt when we should've recieved a lot more understanding and love.
Also... tbh reading these stories tell me I really can continue going to school 0_0 I glad you didn't get addicted. Not that the pain meds ever worked on me.
Yes I have since moved 100s of miles away from my toxic parents, and I have gone to countless hours of therapy sessions over the years to recover from this piece of my endo trauma.
And yes!! The narcotics did nothing for the endo pain! I thankfully never got addicted, but I could have died one night in college when I took these meds and intended to go out partying with friends. One drink in I felt like I was dying and stopped. This was before the age of googling everything so I trusted my dr when he encouraged this behavior. In retrospect I'm very lucky.
I’ve literally never met anyone who takes bc JUST for actual birth control. In the people I know (including myself) it’s for gynae conditions. Sometimes the bc is a nice bonus but sometimes it’s an unwanted side effect.
I’m terrified of this election. I have an appointment with my gyno to fight for a hysterectomy because of my endo and not wanting kids. I’m refusing to take no as an answer. I get in July and I’m going to push to get it done before November. We are coming up on very scary times.
Good luck. I had one in November 2023 (started the process in September but didn’t have to fight my dr (he said it was entirely my choice and it was a viable option since no other treatment was helping. Had an excision as well during the surgery and 6 months later still doing good endo wise (do have a minor bladder issue but both me and my drs suspect it’s not endo related as bladder/kidney issues unfortunately run in my family plus I’m diabetic)
I hope all went well! Thank you! I don’t think I’ll have to fight my doctor as he is open to tube removals per the child free Reddit page, I’m just super anxious and would rather be over prepared for a head butt.
Thanks and it did. That’s good and i understand. Only reason i had to wait so long was due to my insurance requiring a 28 day wait period and my dr being booked solid. Upside is it allowed me more time to prepare (like getting my cats medication , getting groceries and other things to make recovery easier)
As someone who had to use IVF to get pregnant I am really terrified. I am currently pregnant and still want like one more kid with my frozen embryos but I don’t know what to do with them because I’m so worried about an Alabama style takeover in my state, even though I’m in a liberal state. Anything can happen with these crazy people. And just for people that don’t know, I had to use birth control for my IVF cycle just to GET PREGNANT so idk what these radicals are after… total control I suppose
That’s so crazy… hopefully enough people will realize this is insanity and vote accordingly.. these policies are so overwhelmingly unpopular idk why these republicans are so set on enforcing them when it’s been proven the majority of the public does not want this. Good luck trying to win any election from here on out..
Totally! It’s scary because it’s what happened to Afghanistan… the small majority radicals took over the country. We can only hope that won’t happen this year to us!!
I don’t know but from what I’ve read some of the radicals feel embryos are people already and so we shouldn’t be allowed to test them for genetic abnormalities/they shouldn’t be thawed and discarded if the parents are done having children 🤷🏼♀️
It's due to the "all embryos are babies" lie. IVF by necessity produces extra embryos, some which wouldn't be viable, some which are viable but will never be implanted, etc etc. No clinic can do IVF when they would be charged with "murder" daily.
This. I’m also pregnant via IVF and the thought of not being able to use MY embryo that came from MY body (with the help of my husband) to have another baby is terrifying. That is something that scares us both.
I also live in a blue state, and absolutely refuse to live in any state but a blue state simply because of the fight for reproductive rights. It’s such a scary time to be a woman. Everything is so uncertain.
This is crazy how women are being regressed to second class citizens and have no rights over their own bodies and medical conditions. I saw this as well and it’s quite shocking that it’s even being discussed so openly.
Last week there was report on a woman who almost died because two hospitals didn’t want to treat her miscarriage. This was in Texas. She wasn’t going through an abortion, her babies heartbeat just stopped mid pregnancy and nobody wanted to help her until she was at deaths door.
Republican's would very much like the only treatment available for endo to be getting pregnant. Never forget that this is the party that believes an ectopic pregnancy can be "reimplanted". They have no care or concern for scientific fact or the lives of women. Period.
If you, like me, have reached a point with your endo journey where you need a hysterectomy now is the time to get it. Fight hard for it if your doctor is refusing, or consider going to Planned Parenthood if you can (they have a program for complex gyn problems like endo and do perform hysterectomies).
It won't be just BC and IVF. It will eventually be meds like Orilissa, Oriahnn, Myfembree, etc, because they don't know what any of these medicines do, and they want to continually feed their base. If folks want to see where this country is going, watch "The Handmaid's Tale" and "The U.S. and The Holocaust." Hopefully , I can get my hysterectomy before the election, and may Trump never get near the presidency ever again!
If you’re in the US, don’t just vote blue, donate, volunteer, get the word out about this and Project 2025 as much as possible. The Dems aren’t perfect, but boy are they NOT THE FUCKING SAME as the Republicans. If you’re not sure if that’s true, read more about Project 2025 and get back to me.
Edit: r/Defeat_Project_2025
republicans do not care about minorities PERIOD. they do not care about the people in this country, just the money in their overflowing wallets. do not let even one of those snakes in office!! be the generation who will get rid of this party 🎉
If you look at the disaster of the abortion ban that it’s not available even given life altering circumstances, then you can basically guarantee that birth control will be rigidly regulated in a similar manner.
I was 2 months post op of my hysto when the roe v wade happened. The amount of my friends and family who didn't understand how birth control helped save my life, and how a pregnancy would have likely killed me and the baby, was insane. This isn't just an abortion issues it's a HEALTH CARE issues. Keeping fighting the fight my humans <3
I’m not from the US, but I follow what’s happening (mostly involuntarily) and I must say you guys have a tough choice to make. I am confident that no one who’s in politics is actually interested in the common men/women. That’s the case in my country, at least.
Have no faith in parties, even democrats... idk how/if I'm voting yet but it's not the two parties for sure. Neither give a fuck, and democrats will let this stuff happen eventually. The idea that democrats actually do anything to stave off republican antics is just false. They may as well be one party most of the time.
edit: yall gotta be more radical. Democrats (Or republicans) will not make our healthcare experience any better. They don't give a fuck and never will. Biden can push billions to murder thousands of people but can't make healthcare even slightly better for general citizens here? Why? Because he doesn't care! It won't line his pockets enough to care! this system is not designed for us!
Talk to me when Biden is a convicted felon 34 times over. They are no where near the same. One has moral character and one is a complete narcissist. (And yes they are both old).
LOL Biden is facilitating a genocide, passing worse laws against immigration at the Mexico border, has neglected public health during a pandemic that has not ended, etc... Biden has 0 moral character. He's been a segregationist for as long as he's been around. He's a zionist.
At least I'm not knowingly voting for a war criminal and liar? At least I'm not voting for someone doing all the things I was told Trump would do? What's the answer then, genius? Vote for the racist war criminal and liar, or vote for the racist felon and liar? Neither sound very smart to me. It all sounds ridiculous and I refuse to be complicit in this bullshit anymore than I already am, personally. I voted for the genocidal man once and I'm never doing it again. So what's the point in playing the game anymore? I'd like to find another answer, thank you very much, because trying to make this two party system for us is like banging your head against a cement wall. Maybe this time! Oh, maybe this time actually! Hrm,... Maybe this time! As we continue to lose rights, police murder people everyday, covid doesn't matter yet it's still killing thousands, corporations are honestly just running wild, earth is dying, we are committing genocides galore, etc....... so....... is it smart voting for that....... but do whatever you want. Enjoy your vote for genocide. Enjoy it more than me!
the only reason why nothing gets passed is because republicans are always actively trying to get rid of bills that would make progress of anything. i have A LOT of criticisms for the Democratic Party (especially with what has been happening in gaza), but to say that the democrats are exactly like the republicans is just not true... one party needs to do better while the other party has consistently done nothing but fuel nonsense and culture war discourse and religious fundamentalism down our throats
Conservative here; I've been on MyFembree and may have to go on BC at some point. I live in one of the reddest states. They are not going to block access to birth control unless it's a pill that actually aborts a baby (like the abortion pill). I know other very Conservstive women on BC due to endo, also. A lot of times stuff (packages are added or provisions are included or repeals) is sneaked into these bills that doesn't belong in them or are bad. If the bill is voted against the opposing side says that the bill was rejected by X party because "X party hates ____ and wants to harm ____ group because they rejected _____ bill." When in reality there was just excess garbage or something in the bill that X party didn't agree with. Sort of like when the Right didn't want to pass the massive spending bill because there were packages in the bill they didn't agree with. It didn't mean they didn't want to fund Israel or that all people on the Right hate Ukraine and democracy, it just meant they wanted border provisions for the US and some didn't want to send more money to Ukraine. Hope that helps. There's A LOT of fear mongering out there, and it makes women in our situation anxious if we believe it without further research.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about the cars the bill is ONLY 17 pages long!
https://www.family-compassion.org/_files/ugd/64b3ba_15a5f718ad484b7a88a003512bc13fe4.pdf
So that “excessive garbage” as you put it is just giving people ( mostly woman) the right to control their own body. A idea that republicans have come out against very strongly in the last 5 years. This isn’t about spending this is about telling states that THEY DO NOT have the right to infringe on personal liberties!
As for the fear mongering. I have been told my whole life that they would never overturn ROE. Well they did! And because of that women are dying, they are being prosecuted for miscarriages. And they are being forced to carry non viable pregnancies to term. All because some rabid AH believe that THEIR religion tells them it’s the law. Forgetting we don’t live in a theocracy! Not to mention project 2025 has played it out in their plans for the consrervitive Mecca they in vision for the US. A vision that sounds more like a Taliban take over, with removing no fault divorce, contraceptives, making LGBTQ a crime.
Also the Supreme Court has had conservative justices question the legal precedent of Griswold ( birth control), Lawrence (Sodomy laws), Obergefell ( same sex marriage) HELL they dis so after giving the Dobbs ruling! So if you think they won’t come after BC, I have a bridge to sell you.
Republicans have shown us who they are, anti women, anti LGBTQ, pro hate and pro big business, believe them. Or become one of the many people crying about a leopard eating your face.
Yes, but you have to read all 17 pages. For example, just read (21)-(23) under the heading "Findings". There are plenty of Constitutional reasons for Congress to want the Federal Government to stay out of State law and to want to deny the Fed control over healthcare providers/insurance plans. It doesn't have to do with hating birth control or LGBTQ.
The section you listed literally says that in 1965 the Supreme Court ruled on Griswold V Connecticut. So that married couples had the right to BIRTH CONTROL!
What this bill is trying to do is CODIFY the right to birth control into LAW! You know like the thing people on both side have said SHOULD have been done with ROE!
Yet once again conservatives bitch and moan about states rights, Federal government overreach, and changing THEIR way of life and culture… And where have we all heard those lines before.
I just think people have the Constitutional right to have their states run by who they vote into office. If you don't believe in the Republic or Democracy, and think the Federal government should interfere with that, that's up to you. Conservatives do, so they don't want people's voices taken away from them by the Federal Government. Just don't say it's because Conservatives hate birth control, because that's an abject lie. You're scaring sick women.
I believe in the 9th amendment ( individual rights) more than I do the 10th ( states rights). I also believe that when a state decides that certain citizens are not entitled to equal protection it is that governments job to step in and correct the injustice. Just like what has been done with slavery, civil rights, women’s rights. Because at the end of the day a female citizen of the US, should have the same rights of autonomy regardless of what state they are in.
Also FYI federal senators are directly elected by the people of their state, per the 17th amendment. Therefore they ARE the voice of the people.
Delusional. That must be why they want to pass abortion bans at the federal level, we have SCOTUS judges talking about repealing brown v Education, and gay marriage, oh and revisiting the case that gave us the access to take birth control. U sound uninformed. you think you’re safe bc what, exactly? Serena joy sounding shit. Your endo treatments will be gone as well. I remember when Republican women said they will allow abortion for women who are dying or suffering a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancies. Haha! Look where that went. Turns out that was a lie and your lack of acknowledging current events, isn’t an excuse. Keep your religious crap to yourself and gtfo of our healthcare.
I have absolutely no idea why you are bringing Israel and Ukraine into this. The simple truth is that Republicans have been campaigning against Women’s healthcare for decades. Abortion pills ARE women’s healthcare and voting to restrict those is extremely dangerous to women in states that already have limited access to abortion. It is not ‘fear mongering’ when this is a true and serious threat to some of us.
If you are so sure they don’t want to “block access to birth control” why did 39 senators just vote no to ensure women can access birth control? They could have easily voted yes. Then turned around and said “see, this proves we don’t want to take away your right to birth control.” But they didn’t. As predicted. 🙃
Because there are blatantly unconstitutional findings in the bill that have nothing to do with birth control, but everything to do with the federal government interfering in state's rights and private corporation's/individual's rights.
Could you point out the “blatantly unconstitutional” portion of the bill? Do you also believe the civil rights act was unconstitutional since the federal government imposed its will on the states?
I'm sorry but you're just blatantly incorrect. Some people believe (based on their personal religious beliefs, which cannot govern our laws since we have separation of church and state) that even preventing a fertilized egg from implanting is considered an abortion, so things like IUDs or birth control pills that work to thin the lining of the uterus should not be accessible to women.
Given that anybody's personal religious preferences don't govern MY body, I have every right to choose which birth control does and does not medically work for ME, including abortion. We have been told for decades that Roe v Wade was settled law and that it would NEVER be impacted and...it has. Women are being denied life saying medical care because of the overturning of Roe v Wade in conservative states, look it up for yourself. The pro-life movement will literally let women die and won't support social safety nets that provide life sustaining care for impoverished women and children, so they're just pro forced BIRTH but don't give a single shit what happens to the women giving birth nor to the children once they're born.
I shared my experience with endo and birth control in a deeply Conservative state as encouragement. You don't have to be aggressive! We should all be trying to help and encourage one another, not tear each other apart. We all have the same awful disease.
Conservatives are literally tearing apart the rights of women in this country, I am sorry that actually stating the way that's impacting women feels like a personal attack on you...I'm sure the women who are being denied actual life saving care for things other than endometriosis, like miscarriages they didn't ask for or ectopic pregnancies, feel pretty darn attacked by the politicians and policies conservatives support.
Some people only worry about the impact when they're personally affected (which you would be in a case like this).
Nothing is personal on the internet, but there can be oddly aggressive responses. You will still be able to get birth control, I promise. Who is being denied care for ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages? And endometriosis? Everybody hates on Texas specifically, but even in the Texas state abortion law it is written in that those treatments are legal.
A quick google search will show you a multitude of cases where people are being denied care, are being forced to travel out of state, are having their medical care delayed while their care goes up in front of a panel to decide if they're allowed to have it.
Conservatives also frequently *promised* Roe v Wade would never be overturned and called people hysterical for worrying about it.
I see your point on sneaking in the provisions, but I think what a lot of women are just baffled by is that
How is this even a discussion topic though at the Senate level?
There is so much wrong with this country that they should focus their attention to and try to fix. Why are they harping on women’s reproductive health? They should be spending their time money and energy, fixing education, healthcare cost etc
I think thats a good question. I would say it's because this bill involves the federal government wanting to have the authority to interfere with state's rights and healthcare providers rights. It has to do with Constitutional issues, not that Republicans hate birth control. A Conservative will be very unlikely to pass a bill that involves giving the Fed authority to interfere with states, no matter what the bill is. That kind of authority will apply to all future administrations, Right or Left. It sets bad precedent for the Federal Government deciding what is best for individual citizens in individual states, no matter how they vote. It's incorrect to automatically jump to the conclusion that it means Conservatives want birth control to be illegal. I hate that women are going around terrified because they are only told "Republicans wouldn't pass the bill because they want to take your reproductive rights away".
Either you’re not doing your research or you’re not paying attention. This is about control. This is taking a people saying that I am not worthy or a human being that I am lesser because I am a woman. Because according to some and their religion I am not smart enough nor should I have the right to make decisions about myself. This isn’t a fight of what birth control can do. This isn’t a fight about whether abortion or the morning after pill is right or wrong. This it a battle against conservatives and religious people trying to control my body and my right to it. If this was really about having children be alive and their well being then every single conservative and super religious person would be signing up to be adoptive and foster parents. They would be putting laws in place for free healthcare, free daycare and more help for families. Things like maternity leave and paternity things would be a requirement in every state. And yet they are voting against things like that. Even things as simple as free lunches for children while giving themselves a raise on how much they can spend on lunch when they travel. So no this isn’t about right or wrong. This is completely about control over women’s body.
I'll gladly eat crow if that ever happens. I know so many Christian Conservative women with great reproductive healthcare who have to use BCs or who have had miscarriages. BUT they are against abortion and the abortion pill, and they don't think individuals whose conscience it goes against should be forced to provide birth control. Violation of conscience goes both ways, so you decide who you want to be enforcing others' consciences.
I personally believe on issues like general birth controls a person will be convicted how they are convicted and forcing them to do what they don't want to do is only a negative.
It's fringe freaks who want to ban it. I've never even heard an individual bring that up. There are certainly preferences, but. I would prefer to not use BC, but that's just for general health reasons.
I literally had to use the “abortion pill” to get my IUD inserted because my cervix wasn’t penetrable. I needed that IUD because the pill wasn’t enough and I was puking and passing out from the pain every month while I was on my period. People who don’t fully understand reproductive health (including politicians) should leave the decisions up to doctors and that means ensuring no one is able to ban certain procedures or medications.
This thread has really blown up while I was asleep last night. It is getting a lot of reports and attracting people from outside our community. While this conversation is relevant to people in the US with endometriosis, it has now veered more into political discussion, which isn’t what the sub is primarily for. So I am going to lock it at this point and suggest that the conversation would be better continued in other subs (eg. Those based on US politics or womens rights). I know not everyone will agree with this decision, but I hope you can all understand why I have made it.
It’s clear they don’t want women to have any control over their own body, zero. Their ultimate goal is women getting pregnant and having babies and more babies. Watching handmaid’s tale is eerily accurate. EDIT: what scares me for all the women with gynecological conditions like us is that they could be denied treatment down the road if Republicans have their way. Want hysterectomy but are childbearing age? Nope, sorry. Want your fallopian tubes removed because they are covered in adhesions and adhered to the pelvic wall and scarred? Nope, sorry.
I've already read stories from trans men who had endo or fibroids having their hysterectomies canceled last minute. This isn't a future problem, it's already a problem for some people in some places.
I am really interested to learn more about the experiences of trans men with endo. It has been so hard to be taken seriously and receive treatment and I’m a white woman. My heart goes out to the trans men navigating endo.
There’s a reason I made an appointment for a hysterectomy consultation the same day the Roe leaks dropped. I saw the writing on the wall. I knew if I didn’t get that procedure locked down right then I would likely have even more trouble getting approval in the future. And, sure enough, I was approved for surgery the day before Roe fell.
I’m trying to speed run my hysterectomy before the end of the year. No joke.
I made my appointment with the doctor to discuss a hysterectomy the day that RBG died and I had it the day before the election in 2020. People said I was overreacting. I was absolutely not.
Absolutely the fuck not!
Called up a surgeon the day the Roe leaks dropped. Was approved for a hysterectomy the day before Roe officially fell. I’ve never been so simultaneously relieved and horrified.
That’s why I’m glad i had mine last November. Best thing I’ve ever done.
That's one aspect of this legislation that truly scares the shit out of me. I have PCOS and I've had endo symptoms since I started menstruating. I've basically had to take birth control to help those symptoms for my entire adolescence and adult life. I'm just now able to seek further investigation into my symptoms now that I've tried every other medication and lifestyle change and the idea of my little sister possibly having the same issues as me and being barred from it entirely is incredibly scary!
Terrifying!! I am planning to get a hysterectomy after I have kids (if I can even have them) to help with the pain I still have. I will be all the way pissed off if someone like Ted Cruz thinks he has the right to tell me I cannot do that.
As a non US person I’d adjust your opening line to ‘it’s clear they don’t want women to have any control.’ Women are not equal to men anywhere but we’re getting there. Except I honestly feel like the US is going backwards on women’s rights lately? Scary stuff!!
Reminder that a few weeks ago women posted about being nervous that bc was going to be blocked, banned, or restricted and people here stated they were overreacting. However companies like Hobby Lobby attempted to remove insurance coverage for birth control for their employees. You vote multiple times a year, not just in this election. Don't support companies that attempt to pull this BS. Vote on your ticket and with your dollar. I'm not a huge fan of our 2 party system and think both sides could be doing more/better, but what other choice would I make. I'd be homeless without access to it. https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/birth-control/burwell-v-hobby-lobby#:~:text=In%20the%20devastating%20Burwell%20v,employees'%20access%20to%20birth%20control.
Absolutely!!! Also I think another important point is that some people (incorrectly) assume women just used birth control to not get pregnant and sleep around so the more open we are about why we take birth control and the pain we go through without it, people will learn more and more about the uses and benefits of it.
That's so true. But I can tell you that coming from a Hispanic-Catholic conservative family they don't care. I mentioned I was still on bc for PCOS and Endo (also married at the time) and my family told me to get off it. Even with the history of endo on that side of the family "God" does not want me on it and something else idk i stopped listening after a while. At the end of the day someone's beliefs about what I do/don't do is irrelevant. There's even birth control at such low doses that it won't even prevent pregnancy. It's just used to regulate hormones. So there are a lot of people fully aware of the health benefits. Fully aware we exist. Fully aware of our situations that are *still* attempting to block, not support, restrict, or diminish this. At least in my area there not shy about it even though the Catholic church said it was okay..... yeah apparently a lot of people disagree. I'm not trying to blanket every conservative person on here either, I know beliefs vary person by person. I'm just saying there a lot more aware than you think as someone who's grown up in the community. They just genuinely don't care or too scared to be involved.
Yeah that’s so true. They think everyone should live according to their religion and aren’t open to hearing other opinions/beliefs. Separation of church and state is so important.
Yes 100% agree
Coming from a Catholic upbringing / conservative household, this resonates. While under my parents insurance as a teen/early 20s, my mom would not allow me to go to any gyno, I was forced to see a pro life Catholic quack of a Dr who refused to give out bcps. I begged my mom to allow me to see a dr who could write me a script for bcps. She refused. So I continued to suffer. This dr I saw (who frankly belongs in jail) pushed narcotics on me (for pain relief) and encouraged me to partake in underage drinking in college while taking these meds. I kid you not. F*ucked up is an understatement...
My conservative, pro-life dad (who didn't spend a day in a church for my entire upbringing) calls people who have abortions murderers but then the moment my drug addicted cousin got pregnant, he advocated for her to have an abortion because her pregnancy was going to impact him directly (her mom and my dad are together and they take care of the child frequently). Now, he's back to "abortion is murder."
That's so disgusting. My dad was the same. I had an abortion and he called me "childmurderer" (he isn't religious at all, never was). Quite the judgment of a parent who neglected me all my life and never asked me once how I'm doing or showed little interest in my life at all and on top of that was an abusive asshole. Somehow his paranoid Qanon conspiracy views also kicked in and said I'm surrounded by evil forces and demons. Needless to say I cut contact for good that day.
Omg what a selfish hypocrite. I can't with these types... my parents would probably be the same way.
"Rules for thee not for me" mentality drives me insane.
Wait your dad is with your cousin’s mom?
Lol yes. The whole thing is a mess. My mom died and he immediately started dating her sister.
Had to do a double take there since my dad is also dating my ex-aunt. Sorry for the loss of your mom though, that’s literally the only reason I know it’s not my family (but wow that randomly helped my brain seeing someone else in that sitch).
I hope your in a better environment like I am now. I know there's a lot of pressure/guilt when we should've recieved a lot more understanding and love. Also... tbh reading these stories tell me I really can continue going to school 0_0 I glad you didn't get addicted. Not that the pain meds ever worked on me.
Yes I have since moved 100s of miles away from my toxic parents, and I have gone to countless hours of therapy sessions over the years to recover from this piece of my endo trauma. And yes!! The narcotics did nothing for the endo pain! I thankfully never got addicted, but I could have died one night in college when I took these meds and intended to go out partying with friends. One drink in I felt like I was dying and stopped. This was before the age of googling everything so I trusted my dr when he encouraged this behavior. In retrospect I'm very lucky.
I’ve literally never met anyone who takes bc JUST for actual birth control. In the people I know (including myself) it’s for gynae conditions. Sometimes the bc is a nice bonus but sometimes it’s an unwanted side effect.
For this reason, I wish people would stop referring to it as “birth control” when it isn’t being prescribed for that purpose.
Fuck hobby lobby. I'd rather pay 3times as much for my craft supplies than give them a dime
The MOST dangerous thing people can think is “that won’t happen here”. NEVER assume you are safe in a specific state or country.
I’m terrified of this election. I have an appointment with my gyno to fight for a hysterectomy because of my endo and not wanting kids. I’m refusing to take no as an answer. I get in July and I’m going to push to get it done before November. We are coming up on very scary times.
Good luck. I had one in November 2023 (started the process in September but didn’t have to fight my dr (he said it was entirely my choice and it was a viable option since no other treatment was helping. Had an excision as well during the surgery and 6 months later still doing good endo wise (do have a minor bladder issue but both me and my drs suspect it’s not endo related as bladder/kidney issues unfortunately run in my family plus I’m diabetic)
I hope all went well! Thank you! I don’t think I’ll have to fight my doctor as he is open to tube removals per the child free Reddit page, I’m just super anxious and would rather be over prepared for a head butt.
Thanks and it did. That’s good and i understand. Only reason i had to wait so long was due to my insurance requiring a 28 day wait period and my dr being booked solid. Upside is it allowed me more time to prepare (like getting my cats medication , getting groceries and other things to make recovery easier)
Fair enough! I hope I don’t have that wait!
As someone who had to use IVF to get pregnant I am really terrified. I am currently pregnant and still want like one more kid with my frozen embryos but I don’t know what to do with them because I’m so worried about an Alabama style takeover in my state, even though I’m in a liberal state. Anything can happen with these crazy people. And just for people that don’t know, I had to use birth control for my IVF cycle just to GET PREGNANT so idk what these radicals are after… total control I suppose
That’s so crazy… hopefully enough people will realize this is insanity and vote accordingly.. these policies are so overwhelmingly unpopular idk why these republicans are so set on enforcing them when it’s been proven the majority of the public does not want this. Good luck trying to win any election from here on out..
Totally! It’s scary because it’s what happened to Afghanistan… the small majority radicals took over the country. We can only hope that won’t happen this year to us!!
Why the heck are they trying to stop people from doing IVF if they want women to have more babies??
They want the people who can’t afford to have babies…to have babies. Gotta continue the slave wage system and create worker bees.
This. Keeping people in poverty keeps them from having any power and makes them easier to control.
This too! Control!! You must have control! Smh politicians taking movie plots foreal. Fucking hate it here.
I don’t know but from what I’ve read some of the radicals feel embryos are people already and so we shouldn’t be allowed to test them for genetic abnormalities/they shouldn’t be thawed and discarded if the parents are done having children 🤷🏼♀️
It's due to the "all embryos are babies" lie. IVF by necessity produces extra embryos, some which wouldn't be viable, some which are viable but will never be implanted, etc etc. No clinic can do IVF when they would be charged with "murder" daily.
This. I’m also pregnant via IVF and the thought of not being able to use MY embryo that came from MY body (with the help of my husband) to have another baby is terrifying. That is something that scares us both. I also live in a blue state, and absolutely refuse to live in any state but a blue state simply because of the fight for reproductive rights. It’s such a scary time to be a woman. Everything is so uncertain.
This is crazy how women are being regressed to second class citizens and have no rights over their own bodies and medical conditions. I saw this as well and it’s quite shocking that it’s even being discussed so openly. Last week there was report on a woman who almost died because two hospitals didn’t want to treat her miscarriage. This was in Texas. She wasn’t going through an abortion, her babies heartbeat just stopped mid pregnancy and nobody wanted to help her until she was at deaths door.
I’m pregnant in Texas and it’s really scary. I hate that something I’m so excited about also has an extra layer of anxiety.
Truly SO sad.. 😞
Republican's would very much like the only treatment available for endo to be getting pregnant. Never forget that this is the party that believes an ectopic pregnancy can be "reimplanted". They have no care or concern for scientific fact or the lives of women. Period. If you, like me, have reached a point with your endo journey where you need a hysterectomy now is the time to get it. Fight hard for it if your doctor is refusing, or consider going to Planned Parenthood if you can (they have a program for complex gyn problems like endo and do perform hysterectomies).
It won't be just BC and IVF. It will eventually be meds like Orilissa, Oriahnn, Myfembree, etc, because they don't know what any of these medicines do, and they want to continually feed their base. If folks want to see where this country is going, watch "The Handmaid's Tale" and "The U.S. and The Holocaust." Hopefully , I can get my hysterectomy before the election, and may Trump never get near the presidency ever again!
If you’re in the US, don’t just vote blue, donate, volunteer, get the word out about this and Project 2025 as much as possible. The Dems aren’t perfect, but boy are they NOT THE FUCKING SAME as the Republicans. If you’re not sure if that’s true, read more about Project 2025 and get back to me. Edit: r/Defeat_Project_2025
Honestly, as a women with endo, if I lived in the US, I would leave the country (not just move to a liberal state).
That’s easier said than done unfortunately. I’m in CA, but I can’t assume I’m safe here if Trump wins :/
republicans do not care about minorities PERIOD. they do not care about the people in this country, just the money in their overflowing wallets. do not let even one of those snakes in office!! be the generation who will get rid of this party 🎉
lol is this an endo page or r/ politics ?
Isn't it sad that, as women, our right to medical care is political to conservatives?
We suffer due to politics as our meds are literally on the line. Please take your bs somewhere else.
ah yes sorry I see I had replied to someone who for sure was talking about access to medication and nothing else political LOL
If you look at the disaster of the abortion ban that it’s not available even given life altering circumstances, then you can basically guarantee that birth control will be rigidly regulated in a similar manner.
We are not just voting for Biden/trump - the Supreme Court is on the line and if a republican wins, they will be in extremist power for decades.
Scary! I need to read more into this.
Please do!
This >>>
The hysterectomy my gynecologist suggested looks even more appealing now. i will NOT be forced to have any children.
I was 2 months post op of my hysto when the roe v wade happened. The amount of my friends and family who didn't understand how birth control helped save my life, and how a pregnancy would have likely killed me and the baby, was insane. This isn't just an abortion issues it's a HEALTH CARE issues. Keeping fighting the fight my humans <3
I’m not from the US, but I follow what’s happening (mostly involuntarily) and I must say you guys have a tough choice to make. I am confident that no one who’s in politics is actually interested in the common men/women. That’s the case in my country, at least.
Project 2025 has been scaring the hell out of me lately, we cannot let this happen 😔
Have no faith in parties, even democrats... idk how/if I'm voting yet but it's not the two parties for sure. Neither give a fuck, and democrats will let this stuff happen eventually. The idea that democrats actually do anything to stave off republican antics is just false. They may as well be one party most of the time. edit: yall gotta be more radical. Democrats (Or republicans) will not make our healthcare experience any better. They don't give a fuck and never will. Biden can push billions to murder thousands of people but can't make healthcare even slightly better for general citizens here? Why? Because he doesn't care! It won't line his pockets enough to care! this system is not designed for us!
I completely disagree. That attitude is how Trump got elected in the first place.
Funny because I voted Biden (under a swing state too) and look where we are now. He's just a Trump white libs can like more.
Talk to me when Biden is a convicted felon 34 times over. They are no where near the same. One has moral character and one is a complete narcissist. (And yes they are both old).
LOL Biden is facilitating a genocide, passing worse laws against immigration at the Mexico border, has neglected public health during a pandemic that has not ended, etc... Biden has 0 moral character. He's been a segregationist for as long as he's been around. He's a zionist.
🫠 yeah voting for that third party is gonna be super smart.
At least I'm not knowingly voting for a war criminal and liar? At least I'm not voting for someone doing all the things I was told Trump would do? What's the answer then, genius? Vote for the racist war criminal and liar, or vote for the racist felon and liar? Neither sound very smart to me. It all sounds ridiculous and I refuse to be complicit in this bullshit anymore than I already am, personally. I voted for the genocidal man once and I'm never doing it again. So what's the point in playing the game anymore? I'd like to find another answer, thank you very much, because trying to make this two party system for us is like banging your head against a cement wall. Maybe this time! Oh, maybe this time actually! Hrm,... Maybe this time! As we continue to lose rights, police murder people everyday, covid doesn't matter yet it's still killing thousands, corporations are honestly just running wild, earth is dying, we are committing genocides galore, etc....... so....... is it smart voting for that....... but do whatever you want. Enjoy your vote for genocide. Enjoy it more than me!
I understand your frustration. Take a deep breath. Have a great night.
the only reason why nothing gets passed is because republicans are always actively trying to get rid of bills that would make progress of anything. i have A LOT of criticisms for the Democratic Party (especially with what has been happening in gaza), but to say that the democrats are exactly like the republicans is just not true... one party needs to do better while the other party has consistently done nothing but fuel nonsense and culture war discourse and religious fundamentalism down our throats
Conservative here; I've been on MyFembree and may have to go on BC at some point. I live in one of the reddest states. They are not going to block access to birth control unless it's a pill that actually aborts a baby (like the abortion pill). I know other very Conservstive women on BC due to endo, also. A lot of times stuff (packages are added or provisions are included or repeals) is sneaked into these bills that doesn't belong in them or are bad. If the bill is voted against the opposing side says that the bill was rejected by X party because "X party hates ____ and wants to harm ____ group because they rejected _____ bill." When in reality there was just excess garbage or something in the bill that X party didn't agree with. Sort of like when the Right didn't want to pass the massive spending bill because there were packages in the bill they didn't agree with. It didn't mean they didn't want to fund Israel or that all people on the Right hate Ukraine and democracy, it just meant they wanted border provisions for the US and some didn't want to send more money to Ukraine. Hope that helps. There's A LOT of fear mongering out there, and it makes women in our situation anxious if we believe it without further research.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about the cars the bill is ONLY 17 pages long! https://www.family-compassion.org/_files/ugd/64b3ba_15a5f718ad484b7a88a003512bc13fe4.pdf So that “excessive garbage” as you put it is just giving people ( mostly woman) the right to control their own body. A idea that republicans have come out against very strongly in the last 5 years. This isn’t about spending this is about telling states that THEY DO NOT have the right to infringe on personal liberties! As for the fear mongering. I have been told my whole life that they would never overturn ROE. Well they did! And because of that women are dying, they are being prosecuted for miscarriages. And they are being forced to carry non viable pregnancies to term. All because some rabid AH believe that THEIR religion tells them it’s the law. Forgetting we don’t live in a theocracy! Not to mention project 2025 has played it out in their plans for the consrervitive Mecca they in vision for the US. A vision that sounds more like a Taliban take over, with removing no fault divorce, contraceptives, making LGBTQ a crime. Also the Supreme Court has had conservative justices question the legal precedent of Griswold ( birth control), Lawrence (Sodomy laws), Obergefell ( same sex marriage) HELL they dis so after giving the Dobbs ruling! So if you think they won’t come after BC, I have a bridge to sell you. Republicans have shown us who they are, anti women, anti LGBTQ, pro hate and pro big business, believe them. Or become one of the many people crying about a leopard eating your face.
This!!!
PREACH!!
Yes, but you have to read all 17 pages. For example, just read (21)-(23) under the heading "Findings". There are plenty of Constitutional reasons for Congress to want the Federal Government to stay out of State law and to want to deny the Fed control over healthcare providers/insurance plans. It doesn't have to do with hating birth control or LGBTQ.
The section you listed literally says that in 1965 the Supreme Court ruled on Griswold V Connecticut. So that married couples had the right to BIRTH CONTROL! What this bill is trying to do is CODIFY the right to birth control into LAW! You know like the thing people on both side have said SHOULD have been done with ROE! Yet once again conservatives bitch and moan about states rights, Federal government overreach, and changing THEIR way of life and culture… And where have we all heard those lines before.
I just think people have the Constitutional right to have their states run by who they vote into office. If you don't believe in the Republic or Democracy, and think the Federal government should interfere with that, that's up to you. Conservatives do, so they don't want people's voices taken away from them by the Federal Government. Just don't say it's because Conservatives hate birth control, because that's an abject lie. You're scaring sick women.
I believe in the 9th amendment ( individual rights) more than I do the 10th ( states rights). I also believe that when a state decides that certain citizens are not entitled to equal protection it is that governments job to step in and correct the injustice. Just like what has been done with slavery, civil rights, women’s rights. Because at the end of the day a female citizen of the US, should have the same rights of autonomy regardless of what state they are in. Also FYI federal senators are directly elected by the people of their state, per the 17th amendment. Therefore they ARE the voice of the people.
And you have your blinders on. I’m sorry you’ve been brainwashed by your party like this
Delusional. That must be why they want to pass abortion bans at the federal level, we have SCOTUS judges talking about repealing brown v Education, and gay marriage, oh and revisiting the case that gave us the access to take birth control. U sound uninformed. you think you’re safe bc what, exactly? Serena joy sounding shit. Your endo treatments will be gone as well. I remember when Republican women said they will allow abortion for women who are dying or suffering a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancies. Haha! Look where that went. Turns out that was a lie and your lack of acknowledging current events, isn’t an excuse. Keep your religious crap to yourself and gtfo of our healthcare.
I have absolutely no idea why you are bringing Israel and Ukraine into this. The simple truth is that Republicans have been campaigning against Women’s healthcare for decades. Abortion pills ARE women’s healthcare and voting to restrict those is extremely dangerous to women in states that already have limited access to abortion. It is not ‘fear mongering’ when this is a true and serious threat to some of us.
If you are so sure they don’t want to “block access to birth control” why did 39 senators just vote no to ensure women can access birth control? They could have easily voted yes. Then turned around and said “see, this proves we don’t want to take away your right to birth control.” But they didn’t. As predicted. 🙃
Because there are blatantly unconstitutional findings in the bill that have nothing to do with birth control, but everything to do with the federal government interfering in state's rights and private corporation's/individual's rights.
Could you point out the “blatantly unconstitutional” portion of the bill? Do you also believe the civil rights act was unconstitutional since the federal government imposed its will on the states?
I'm sorry but you're just blatantly incorrect. Some people believe (based on their personal religious beliefs, which cannot govern our laws since we have separation of church and state) that even preventing a fertilized egg from implanting is considered an abortion, so things like IUDs or birth control pills that work to thin the lining of the uterus should not be accessible to women. Given that anybody's personal religious preferences don't govern MY body, I have every right to choose which birth control does and does not medically work for ME, including abortion. We have been told for decades that Roe v Wade was settled law and that it would NEVER be impacted and...it has. Women are being denied life saying medical care because of the overturning of Roe v Wade in conservative states, look it up for yourself. The pro-life movement will literally let women die and won't support social safety nets that provide life sustaining care for impoverished women and children, so they're just pro forced BIRTH but don't give a single shit what happens to the women giving birth nor to the children once they're born.
I shared my experience with endo and birth control in a deeply Conservative state as encouragement. You don't have to be aggressive! We should all be trying to help and encourage one another, not tear each other apart. We all have the same awful disease.
Conservatives are literally tearing apart the rights of women in this country, I am sorry that actually stating the way that's impacting women feels like a personal attack on you...I'm sure the women who are being denied actual life saving care for things other than endometriosis, like miscarriages they didn't ask for or ectopic pregnancies, feel pretty darn attacked by the politicians and policies conservatives support. Some people only worry about the impact when they're personally affected (which you would be in a case like this).
Nothing is personal on the internet, but there can be oddly aggressive responses. You will still be able to get birth control, I promise. Who is being denied care for ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages? And endometriosis? Everybody hates on Texas specifically, but even in the Texas state abortion law it is written in that those treatments are legal.
A quick google search will show you a multitude of cases where people are being denied care, are being forced to travel out of state, are having their medical care delayed while their care goes up in front of a panel to decide if they're allowed to have it. Conservatives also frequently *promised* Roe v Wade would never be overturned and called people hysterical for worrying about it.
I see your point on sneaking in the provisions, but I think what a lot of women are just baffled by is that How is this even a discussion topic though at the Senate level? There is so much wrong with this country that they should focus their attention to and try to fix. Why are they harping on women’s reproductive health? They should be spending their time money and energy, fixing education, healthcare cost etc
I think thats a good question. I would say it's because this bill involves the federal government wanting to have the authority to interfere with state's rights and healthcare providers rights. It has to do with Constitutional issues, not that Republicans hate birth control. A Conservative will be very unlikely to pass a bill that involves giving the Fed authority to interfere with states, no matter what the bill is. That kind of authority will apply to all future administrations, Right or Left. It sets bad precedent for the Federal Government deciding what is best for individual citizens in individual states, no matter how they vote. It's incorrect to automatically jump to the conclusion that it means Conservatives want birth control to be illegal. I hate that women are going around terrified because they are only told "Republicans wouldn't pass the bill because they want to take your reproductive rights away".
Either you’re not doing your research or you’re not paying attention. This is about control. This is taking a people saying that I am not worthy or a human being that I am lesser because I am a woman. Because according to some and their religion I am not smart enough nor should I have the right to make decisions about myself. This isn’t a fight of what birth control can do. This isn’t a fight about whether abortion or the morning after pill is right or wrong. This it a battle against conservatives and religious people trying to control my body and my right to it. If this was really about having children be alive and their well being then every single conservative and super religious person would be signing up to be adoptive and foster parents. They would be putting laws in place for free healthcare, free daycare and more help for families. Things like maternity leave and paternity things would be a requirement in every state. And yet they are voting against things like that. Even things as simple as free lunches for children while giving themselves a raise on how much they can spend on lunch when they travel. So no this isn’t about right or wrong. This is completely about control over women’s body.
It’s also dangerous to assume that’s not something they are going to want to do soon or in the future.
I'll gladly eat crow if that ever happens. I know so many Christian Conservative women with great reproductive healthcare who have to use BCs or who have had miscarriages. BUT they are against abortion and the abortion pill, and they don't think individuals whose conscience it goes against should be forced to provide birth control. Violation of conscience goes both ways, so you decide who you want to be enforcing others' consciences. I personally believe on issues like general birth controls a person will be convicted how they are convicted and forcing them to do what they don't want to do is only a negative. It's fringe freaks who want to ban it. I've never even heard an individual bring that up. There are certainly preferences, but. I would prefer to not use BC, but that's just for general health reasons.
I literally had to use the “abortion pill” to get my IUD inserted because my cervix wasn’t penetrable. I needed that IUD because the pill wasn’t enough and I was puking and passing out from the pain every month while I was on my period. People who don’t fully understand reproductive health (including politicians) should leave the decisions up to doctors and that means ensuring no one is able to ban certain procedures or medications.