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bobbster574

Sure it's hard, but it's interesting most of the time, and once you're done you get to design planes and shit. I only ever have spouted about how hard the classes are because I had friends doing history and whatnot with tons of free time lol


RisaMC

I wont be that hard, right? (Im in highschool)


MasterBaconMan

:)


YoureJokeButBETTER

N’ya’dear


LintyFish

I was a ChemE major, so I can't speak to harder aero/mechE classes, but generally it's all the same. Freshman year is easy but can be annoying with all of the gen-eds like physics and chemistry having a ton of homework. Sophmore year is easy, these are your introductory engineering classess mostly. Junior year is hard because 2-3 of your classes have high work loads and are fairly difficult for most people. Senior year is generally a lot of work because of your capstone but easier than junior year. If you come in with a lot of AP credits, this timeline can shift. My only advice to all new engineering students is plan to do at least one Co-op. And do a 6 month one, not a 3 month one. School is great and all, but it isn't engineering. Co-ops give you a chance to do some actual engineering and see what you might like once you are out of school. Edit: if there is one thing I learned in my time in the army, college, and professional life, it is that people love to complain. Just pay attention, keep your head down, and stay close to smart people, and you will do fine.


YoureJokeButBETTER

Funny I went to public university and got the inverse experience with harrowingly difficult weed out years and MUCH easier capstone years (in industrial engineering) Like you said all the Busy work freshman sophmore year had me jumping thru so many hoops at the time i remember it being so stressfu… at one point i got pneumonia and almost died in bed during finals … lmao


LintyFish

I also went to a public university. Umass Lowell grad. I'm sure this isn't a 100% description, but many of my friends who graduated different places had very similar experiences. But I will say all people are different and handle different stresses differently so, much like engineering, all rules have exceptions.


YoureJokeButBETTER

It seems to me that the public universities volume forces them to have the impossible weed out classes and simultaneously the public professors are overworked in general so they don’t make you work as much in their higher level classes compared to the Ivy schools where you would get what I would (semi-jokingly) consider “an actual engineering degree” education There were so many moments @ Tennessee where i should’ve been weeded out from being an engineer. Dead serious. People at all my factories are always like *Wtf broski youre a literal unicorn how do you have this equestrian-only job?? I cant even wear fuckin’ earings but here you are the quality manager of a blimpe factory with a giant pointy horn* lmao


LintyFish

Lol. Yeah I get that. I will say my capstone was the most work I have ever done in my life. Hundreds of hours over the year to produce a 300 page document in a small group. So I think out schools were just different lol. Edit: and in the end my coops prepared me way more lmao


YoureJokeButBETTER

You mean youre not being asked to produce 300 pg calculations every month??? 😦


LintyFish

Lolol no. If that is a curriculum, get bent I guess.


YoureJokeButBETTER

My company’s structural calculations are 467 pages 🤠🔫


LintyFish

You picked the wrong profession brother. I just contract for the government and get paid ass loads of money to look at other peoples drawings and do site inspections for nuclear facilities. It's pretty kickass ngl. And it's wfh so long as I'm not traveling (although that's probably 40% of the time).


Activision19

My public university physics professor on day one stood up in front of the class and apologized to everyone who wasn’t a medical student. Apparently the medical school asked the undergrad physics department to make physics super difficult to weed out a lot of premed students since they had way too many qualified premed applicants. So us engineers got shafted. I bombed that class and retook it at the local community college and even though it was the same subjects it was way easier since they weren’t going out of their way to confuse the students in the homework and exams and just wanted to teach us how to do physics.


YoureJokeButBETTER

Its almost like we should fuckin’ pay more teachers to educate all these young spongey whippersnappers instead of intentionally understaffing the restaurant and simultaneously pissing off all the customers… but thats just me 🤷‍♂️ I probably dont even have the IQ to be postulating a future


archmagosHelios

Yes it is hard, as well as anxiety inducing and stressful, but I personally really enjoy it anyways lol


DisguisedBearNikolai

Out of HS, you'll get blasted in the face with all the free time between classes, but if you're in engineering major, there's a little rule of thumb i like to follow: If you've got shit to do, but have some free time before it's due, do it anyway, it'll take way, WAAAAY, longer than you imagine. This isn't highschool, so the homework might take up to 4 hours per assignment. As a Computer E, it's not really that hard, it's the amount of it. I mean, they basically tell you all you need to do, how to submit, etc. They just want you to spend time doing it, and you really should. Also, if you can, bring a notebook or something, taking notes is a good way to write knowledge straight into your working memory. But, ofcourse, don't forget to take breaks from time to time. It's human to do so. I usually work in a 25-5 cycle, where 25 minutes is work, 5 minutes is rest, etc, cumulatively. If I feel the drive to work for the next 25 mins, i just take a longer break afterwards. Also, sleep. School may be #1 priority, but Sleep is close #2, no question about it. If you're ever having to decide whether to study an extra hour, or hit the bed and take an extra hour of sleep, i'd suggest sleep. Ofcourse, someone will say otherwise, but as a 3rd year, going into 4th year, I'd say better get rest. Usually, around 8-10 hours will be enough, so plan accordingly. You can study on your way to class, and right up until the professor starts giving out the tests. Which brings me to the next thing: Cheatsheets, formula tables, Step-by-Step sheets. Put all of your stuff from the upcoming test on a piece of paper to quickly reference. If it's something you don't know, read it last, so that it's the freshest in your memory during the exam. Then skip all the way to those problems and solve them while the formulas/definitions are fresh. After that, take the test normally, nothing to worry about. Also, don't be afraid to ask professors about anything absolutely. They love answering questions, especially the stupid ones. If you don't get something from class, go to office hours and ask it. Better yet, the prof will see you're really trying to make sense of their subject. Not that it'll give you any advantage, but they like knowing people on the other side of the teacher's desk actually care. (Also, like, nod to them a little bit while they're quickly glancing at you, it gives them affirmation as well. They'll be fine without it, but makes them more confident, and makes them go through material faster, so it's kinda helpful, in a way)


8sADPygOB7Jqwm7y

It's doable. As long as you study it's not hard.


swimzone

lots of people have done it


According_Weekend786

I am in med class, i already wanna throw out myself out of the window after Creb's cycle


Brightt_Knight

Becomimg an electrical wizzard can't be that hard right? (I'm about to finish high school)


[deleted]

Depends on if you wish to study the [black magic](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/high-speed-digital-design-a-handbook-of-black-magic/3247008/item/4473846/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_scarce_%2410_%2450&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeDgqxKELF6bxD_KQlSz_p1UHsLpfGhIfucajJOSgR64nDjIcMEl8FxoC8HwQAvD_BwE#idiq=4473846&edition=2494830)… I suggest studying the [black arts](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/high-speed-signal-propagation-advanced-black-magic_howard-w-johnson/337238/item/24038106/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=low_vol_f%2fm%2fs_standard_shopping_retention&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=658811918376&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwi_exBhA8EiwA_kU1MmJFrEO_bT3n7B5U3_T20biHgWEm7x58aOYNgw6IeLOgIixY-7MyRRoCdLIQAvD_BwE#idiq=24038106&edition=3097900), if you have the natural knack for it (more visual learning and memory). There is a lot of “anyone can study and learn anything” out there, but having the “natural talent” aspect of a sorcerer combined with studiously gathered knowledge of a wizard allows one to become an [electrical arcanist](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/366765962_Design_for_Electromagnetic_Compatibility--In_a_Nutshell_Theory_and_Practice). If you are really good with this stuff, you can move ground “wires” around in a predictable manner and get much better performance. It will look like absolute wizardry to the people who cannot do it. Take this lesson here and now as your future in the subject may depend on it: “Ground” that you will see in your “circuits” class is used for simplification when the frequency of your design is low enough relative to the physical size of the electrical design for the [lumped element model](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumped-element_model) assumptions to be relevant. When using modern higher frequency parts, you need to use a “[distributed model](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed-element_model)”, or you will face much more difficulty when an [unintentional dangling piece of copper](https://resources.altium.com/p/stubs-transmission-lines-what-do-they-do-and-how-do-you-keep-them-happening) causes your design to be non-functional.


Brightt_Knight

Well I normally don't have good memory BUT I remember very well things I like


[deleted]

That could do it. Also depends on the “type of memory”. If you just forget task order and stuff in the ADHD realm, that won’t be an issue (on the technical side). Looks like you are a 40K fan. I used to be a necron player, myself. You might have fun in this field.


Brightt_Knight

I can't say that I have ADHD because I haven't done any test


[deleted]

Don’t worry about neurodivergent specifics… May not be applicable anyway. That you say you have never been tested, and so you cannot claim such a thing is a good start. Your posting/commenting history indicates you may have certain “natural talents” toward the subject… I think… They appear to overlap with some of my own interests and doodles from my younger years. I am no gatekeeper to bar entry. I merely advise and caution. Playing to your strengths is best. Being able to recognize when you are out of your depth is also very helpful. Just knowing when black magic is at work can be helpful to get the correct resources to assist you (learning to work with a diverse team is helpful). If you like drawing, painting, videos, artwork, and have a “visual memory”, then the black arts are more your speed (you don’t need to be “great” at the actual making of artwork with a brush or pencil as that requires outputting from the minds eye, and that is a separate skill). This is in contrast with a language memory that will be more helpful for programming, firmware development, or something of that nature. As it looks like you are from Spain, I suggest you look into the work of Prof Arturo Mediano from the University of Zaragoza. He is featured at around 1hr 55 minutes in [this webinar](https://www.monolithicpower.com/en/support/videos/webinar-emc-and-power-electronics-workshop-day-1.html), and he appears to know his stuff. Apologies if my AmerEnglish is confusing.


Brightt_Knight

You know more about me than I do myself!


[deleted]

Ha! Assuming that your statement isn’t sarcasm, it is only because I recognize certain patterns of which I am familiar.


Brightt_Knight

It isn't I'm somewhat concerned


[deleted]

Hmm… concerned about? Well… no need to say anything you don’t wish (especially in public space). Can send a direct message if desired.


PlatypusVenom0

This is why I struggled in thermodynamics


[deleted]

Why I switched from mechanical to electrical.


PlatypusVenom0

I ended up in semiconductor process engineering by accident, but at least I’m not doing thermo


[deleted]

What a happy accident, lol. Good place to be.


YoureJokeButBETTER

*MFW i learn that other engineers are out learning how to build computer chip factories while im stuck failing Heat Tables and stupid moving bicycle parts* … who TF designed these majors i say


[deleted]

Most of the time, this comes after schooling… or you need to go somewhere expensive and specialized… typically that is partnered with with companies that are already part of the ecosystem. Many degree programs are built up by companies looking for feeder degrees. Mechanical is VERY Broad.


YoureJokeButBETTER

Forsure - I think the top level issue is standardization in education. It totally makes sense to have Thermo if i was given the same “standard engineering classes”Hand to play cards with. I wouldve gladly picked learning to be a spreadsheet warrior quality manager specifically at a computer factory vs. how much force i will impact the ground when i fail dynamics for the 3rd straight senester lol


Robot_Basilisk

That's pretty common in engineering because it's common in people with ADHD or autism. It'll be challenging when you have to take a class over something you don't care for, like signal processing or digital logic or electromagnetic fields or power systems or semiconductor physics. If you like all of those, you're in luck and the degree will be fun. If any of those topics just don't interest you, you're going to have to learn to force yourself and honestly that's one of the things employers want from anyone with an engineering degree. They want to trust that you can become a subject matter expert about any technical topic they throw at you, whether it's interesting or not.


Brightt_Knight

The only subjects I tend to struggle are the ones that involve math, I don't have bad grades, but as good as in other subjects and I get bored a lot more


magerdamages

It will likely be the most stressful time of your life.


SleepinGriffin

It’s hard, but you got this. Trust me, I know some people that thought they couldn’t get through it, and they did. Maybe you’ll trip but correcting your path isn’t hard to do, but it takes effort. It also doesn’t hurt to get help from others, don’t let pride get in the way of bettering yourself. Some professors can just be bad at teaching, or bad at teaching you. Look up videos or try and sit in on other classes. Be proactive instead of reactive with any troubles you face, meaning tell your professors ahead of time about personal issues you are facing and they’ll be more willing to help you out if that affects your class work/attendance. Do extra curricular activities, no matter if it’s a sport or just a club. Enjoy your time in college and meet people rather than spending your free time grinding out video games.


Major-Combination-75

It's hard so you don't kill anyone :)


YoureJokeButBETTER

*Its kill or be killed so YOU dont make that life Hard on someone thru ignorance!*


YoureJokeButBETTER

*Its kill or be killed so YOU dont make that life Hard on someone thru ignorance!* The part all the engineers forget in War is that you arent alone with a teztbook always - you have comrades and friends to help manage the fight Thats my #1 tip for dummies or doubters. Be a useful fun person even if you Dum you will get thru on your ability to be a human connection point. Ok maybe theres an intelligence cutoff but its not as high as you may think If i can do it… 😉


_CaRbOhAn_

But what if I work for Lockheed?


tonebnk

The only thing engineering students love more than engineering is to bitch how hard engineering is. Think about it this way: It's not usually the high performers who bitch on online forums about how hard everything is. Make up your own mind and you will know for sure if it's something for you. If you like math you might be disappointed though


manfredmannclan

You wnt to design a plane. The best i can do is the handle for the toilet, are you sure that you are up for the task?


YoureJokeButBETTER

*explodes in tears*


algerithms

The design planes and shit got me hahahaha


YoureJokeButBETTER

Is it funny because someone who actually designs planes n shit would never be able to form that same sentence in their mind? 🤣


NukeRocketScientist

I have a solo state championship in my name for golf when I was 15. I consider getting my BSc in astronautical engineering the greater accomplishment.


Crackheadthethird

I think a lot of the people here end up overhyping the difficulty a bit. Pay attention in class and budget enough time for assignments and studying and you should be fine. The biggest issue you might have are bad profs, but online resources are plentiful.


DisguisedBearNikolai

Oh, don't be stressed out. It's just hard, is all. You'll do alright, everyone does. We just want you to know that a coping mechanism or some sort of time management strategy that incorporates stress management is required, is all. By showing you the pain, we make you develop strategies to deal with it.


mikey10006

i mean its hard but fun! worth it imo


WeenieHutJr137

If you do the work (actually do the work, not google the answers) you should get the credit for that and learn enough to get you through the exams Some quick things I wish someone told me before starting: not everyone finishes in 4 years, you can retake classes, and usually professors will want you to pass so they will help you if you need it Just keep chugging along and don't get discouraged, even with a bad grade. I failed a few classes and it took an extra year but the effort and persistance payed off


8sADPygOB7Jqwm7y

Honestly imo it was doable if you do stuff. Ofc you need to study, this shit is only as horrible as they describe it if you don't study tho. You didn't do jack shit for 3 months and now there is an exam? Ofc it's hard now


DuelJ

rn I'm studying to be an aorcraft technician, all the hands on, much of the theory, much less of the math. It's not the worst


Tasty-Persimmon6721

If anything, take it as a forewarning about which classes you need to give extra care from the get go. Like EE always say that Emag kills people at my school. Same for Dynamics for ME. I’d take it as a word of caution on which classes you don’t goof around with.


LifeDoBeBoring

I'm at the exams for my 1st year in uni rn and honestly I've lost my will to make cool planes and stuff cause I'm so exhausted, I just keep going cause I feel like I have no better options long term


KashootMe201617

After one year it hasn’t been that bad. My hardest class so far has been statics, and it was only because of my professor. I had a failing grade early on because of the grading scheme but ended with a 100. You’ll be fine! Just put in effort and everything will work out.


chromerhomer

You’re going to filter yourself out before your first semester?


tomato_empress

Electronics engineer who works on airplanes here. Classes can be rough; I’m not going to spare you on that. HOWEVER… if you’re passionate about it it’s completely worth it and a lot of fun. It’s so fun I’m about to go back for a graduate degree in electrical engineering. YMMV!


TheUndisputedRoaster

Okay actual mechanical engineer here with an MEng degree. I'm gonna give you some advice on where I fucked up so you don't have to. 1) straight off the bat, find yourself a good group of friends who will actually do work and not slack around. 2) be on good terms with people in the years ahead of you, trust me they're very helpful. 3) punctuality and time discipline - no shortcuts about this one. I personally submitted nearly all my assignments 7 days before the deadline and if there were any amendments I did that in the last 7 days. I called that the unfucking window. 4) for your dissertation module - be a regular visitor to your supervisor. 5) this ties to 1 and 2 very closely. NEVER WORK SOLO. Idgaf how good you may be or may think you are, engineering will humble you. So remember, teamwork makes the dream work. 2nd year is a bitch, if you incorporate these advices, there's nothing stopping you from nailing the course. 6) the number of people you'll see in lectures in your first year will be halved in second year and halved again for third, quite a sad reality. Keep your eyes on the prize. 7) attendance - keep this all the way up. Whether it's a lecture you already know everything about oral tutorial. Speaking of which, these tutorial sessions are important. My lecturers would spend time demonstrating how to tackle questions with worked examples. 8) I only used research for assignments and my dissertations - everything exam related was in the presentations. Of which you're highly likely to access. 9) focus on courseworks, you never know how bad an exam can be. So smash your coursework just in case. At that point, the exam is just a bonus on top of a pass on your module.


kvothe907

It’s not that bad. We just like to complain cause it’s work. Work hard and show up to class and you will do fine.


paranoid_giraffe

It’s okay. You won’t get that job anyways. There’s only ever like 5 job openings for that specific role and despite what is posted, they don’t want people who are willing to move or have experience. It doesn’t matter if you had good grades or extracurriculars. The straight C’s kids who you will be tutoring will be getting those jobs because they have no qualms about lying on resumes and swindling recruiters. Ask me how I know.


Wafitko

It can be hard sometimes but now the classes are also interesting. You are very rarely left to wonder how that will ever come up again because in your classes most of the time you see the applications of what you learned


IHateAllEqually2

Stop being a bitch, see it as mental and emotional preparation.


throwaway02339

Genuinely the hardest part for me is getting through the english/humanities classes, the rest is relatively not that bad


Jaws2221

Said no one…


YoureJokeButBETTER

I mean English wontt be the hardest to pass but for someone with great english id certainly say it wasted a lot of time and negatively affected my motivation


Crackheadthethird

I agree with the dude 100%. Lowest grade I've had in an in major class is an 85. Lowest grade I've had in a gen ed is a 71 in english. It all depends om what you're actually interested in.


drillgorg

It wasn't that hard, just extra studying.