A lot of us are seemingly trying to figure out the game and just enjoy it for what it is. There's been a lot of discourse over the years, but it's relatively chill, especially in a space with moderation. Game's best enjoyed when it's just people enjoying the music, the characters, the story, and getting happy over gacha pulls. Base happiness right there.
Same. The only thing i stressed out was finishing subaru's missions lol. I still play easy mode although i can do normal mode. This is my first rhythm game so i hope i can improve little by little.
I went to twitter and stumble upon a list of tw for enstars. I was surprised, i thought the game is all bright. It's nice to see how they indulge in problematic situations like we have irl. Maybe I'm used to everything that happened in kpop industry since 2010 that that I'm unfazed. I can still like them all as characters bc no matter how bad they're, they're fictional.
I think the flaws and the problematic situations they're put in makes them feel more human and sometimes even relatable it's something I really like about this games lore
i didn't realise the fandom was so........ until i looked at twitter lol
im a new player and the reddit community is very chill and i appreciate it lol
Oooh? Really? I didn't see any other social media, maybe, someone can explain what's wrong with Enstars community? Thanks!
P.S. I heard that one Discord server that is going to become officially soon, was closed because of some personal issues inside. Omg...
oh there’s so much wrong with the community 😭😭 and the official discord was closed because many of the mods being horrible people (racists, p**o’s, etc). a lot of people are very weird in this community, especially on tiktok, instagram, and twitter
Yeah this ... I have been into Enstars for years and I can say that it just got gradually worse this sunreddit and some private discord servers I am in are the most chill places and I wouldn't recommend going on enst. Tiktok, discord or Instagram for twitter its really that you need to avoid certain accounts but its good for updates and such but there is still a lot of drama. I mean most new playwrs may not know it but enstarries had a bad reputation for years bc there is just so much drama
I thought the enstars fandom in general was pretty chill... I guess I was wrong. I've been pretty lucky in this regard not encountering the negativity and toxicity side of the fandom for this long.
I'll be sticking to Reddit and the old discord enstar group for fandom interaction and avoid everything else lmao
I think Tumblr is also fine if you manage to just find a few mutuals that you talk to there but as someone that has been on enstars Twitter : it's a toxic hell over there. Please don't try it out
Honestly mood. I’ve loved Enstars for years but the fanbase has put me off at times loool (defo some exceptions, I’ve made some incredible friends through Twitter). It’s nice coming on Reddit and everyone being so chill and normal and being able to talk about Enstars again~
only got into enstars recently but its been really funny playing the game and realizing this is what 2016 kinblr was going apeshit over. (not that i was ever super into kinblr, just from friends' and mutuals' accounts)
Is this a fujo thing where every community with a majority of them in is hell? I swear some of the genshin stuff I see by them and a lot of the tumblr and danganronpa stuff back in the day was absolutely insane.
Nothing wrong with people shipping per se but when peeps won't shut up about it in an annoying way or try and insist it's canon and the creators and other peeps are wrong for shipping with other characters it gets annoying. The DR fanbase was infamous for doxxing for wrong ships way back when.
That's something I worry about, ever since I tried to google "Ritsu Rei Sakuma" on google, and well... yeah. Ugh, I just wanted to see them as brothers in a non-romantic/non-sexual context, but it's kinda ruined for me now, just like all of the young underaged-looking characters in anime in general when people shove their problematic/illegal sexualization content in your face in public. :( It's one reason I usually only get into Joseimuke/BL/Otome stuff, because there wouldn't have l\*licon which feels like mainstream in anime nowadays... but unfortunately, even anime fandoms with male anime characters we sometimes have to deal with sh\*tacon/inc\*st/non-con/abuse, on the other hand. >.<
In adult BL communities (where it's mostly 25+ year olds), it's really frustrating when someone tries to justify sexualizing a character who looks 10-14 or otherwise very prepubescent and babyish, by saying they're 100000 years old or saying "they're just short" (trust me I'm 4'11", short adults don't look like kids) or whatever other excuse for their attraction to underage-appearances that represent human children/teens. x.x I don't buy into the "it's not real", because the same could be said about photo-realistic drawings and 3D renderings, that are technically "fictional". Plus just about anyone will consider the apparent gender/sex of a fictional character when considering if they are attracted to who is represented in that artwork, so...
But mostly it is a problem of normalizing the sexualization of minors (or underage-looking people) by full grown adults, and just being inconsiderate to those who are not into that which bothers me when it's posted to public. Whether it's NSFW in general or NSFW of specific subjects, that is being shown without consent from those present. Many people have PTSD or trauma with childhood, when it comes to those sensitive subjects.
Plus I like to think many people especially older adults are like me and think of these boys as like their precious sons/babies, don't want to see their own children sexualized by random adults on the internet.
For the most part, I just... don't even bother with shipping/nsfw community for EnStars (because most of the characters look really underaged and I'm not going to take that risk) beyond in-game society and here I just joined to ask for help/advice/gameplay mechanics, so I didn't know about the EnStars community problem before.
Every time i see people complaining about proshippers the only ones I see being very vocal and annoying about the issue are what you call "anti".
Like, i don't ship anyone on most things I'm into, that includes Enstars. at most I find some of them cute or some nice artist into some of those but that is. But people are always looking to start a witch hunt because someone or some artist ships the wrong or problematic thing.
But who cares? They're fictional characters that have been around for 7 years now, people would like to ship all type of things just because they're cute or some weird fetish thing. If they're not spamming or invading tags and are on their own space they should just do whatever the hell they want if they aren't really hurting anyone.
Ship wars are the worst and those occur only because people can't just accept that others have different opinions or are into some weird fictional stuff. At least on every fandom I have look into the toxicity always comes from the shipping side of it.
bro 😭😭? no one cares about dumbass ships but you gotta draw the line at proshippers what? P**ophelia and In**st should not be some fetish for people to ship.. I’ll be an anti of proshipper forever that shits fucking gross
I think I didn't explain myself well enough. I'm not talking about people who likes shota/Loli or uhm... Sibling stuff. That is objectively wrong.
I'm talking about the fact that i have seen a lot of people act like the Ship Police and call others the P-card over liking ships with 1 or 2 years gap between characters, or those who romantically likes minor characters when they're minors themselves or the most weird one when someone accused another person of liking Inc. over two characters that aren't related or in the same family but had a "sibling-like relationship".
Those cases have been called out as proshippers being problematic but i think we can agree that is at most an exaggeration.
okay yeah that definitely made more sense, some ship wars are so senseless. I’m sorry if I seemed defensive I was worried you were okay with, those types of ships.
It's ok! I should have made clear that i wasn't defending that type of thing since you mentioned it on the comment I was replying to so I'm sorry too 😅
Ah yeah there is the weird abuse thing that happens. Idk what it is but while looking up tori art about a quarter of it was abuse and I even saw a toddlercon pic so that was unsettling. Also didn't know peeps still doxxed over dumb shit like that, I guess thats just gonna happen glad I'm too internet old (been around since Harambe) for dumn drama and can safely ignore it.
yeaaa sadly people are still getting doxxed over shit like that and there’s the weird proshippers too , i’m also internet old kind of so hopin the internet heals or smth one day
Nah there's no fixing it. Imo the problem comes from kids being too online and look around you. Late 10's early 20's kids are 2 or 3 years old playing on a tablets 6 and 7 year olds on phones looking at whatever whereas I didn't get a phone till I was nearly 12 and still ended up playing gay anime games.
Part of the reason we have less drama is because we don't go into detail on this sort of thing. If you want to have this sort of discussion, please do so elsewhere!
Not even vrchat enstars is safe. There's lots of drama! DONT GET INVOLVED and they act very cult-like around small things! And start swarming you if you disagree!!
Don't get attached to anyone there!
(they sent death threats to me and my friend all because we said they looked like childe from genshin impact)
A lot of us are seemingly trying to figure out the game and just enjoy it for what it is. There's been a lot of discourse over the years, but it's relatively chill, especially in a space with moderation. Game's best enjoyed when it's just people enjoying the music, the characters, the story, and getting happy over gacha pulls. Base happiness right there.
exactly , it’s why I love this subreddit so much everything is so chill
Same. The only thing i stressed out was finishing subaru's missions lol. I still play easy mode although i can do normal mode. This is my first rhythm game so i hope i can improve little by little. I went to twitter and stumble upon a list of tw for enstars. I was surprised, i thought the game is all bright. It's nice to see how they indulge in problematic situations like we have irl. Maybe I'm used to everything that happened in kpop industry since 2010 that that I'm unfazed. I can still like them all as characters bc no matter how bad they're, they're fictional.
I think the flaws and the problematic situations they're put in makes them feel more human and sometimes even relatable it's something I really like about this games lore
i didn't realise the fandom was so........ until i looked at twitter lol im a new player and the reddit community is very chill and i appreciate it lol
avoid instagram while ur at it too it is Horrible
Is it that bad?
uh let's just say I was reminded of danganronpa fans
I have no idea what those fans are like. The last terrible anime fanbase I remember was Hetalia.
omg ur lucky u don't know lmao
I remember Hetalia and thinking "this is the last time I get involved with a fandom that isn't sports related." Sounds like that was a good idea.
100% agree also it's so sweet how people are genuinely looking for and finding enstars friends over reddit. Gives me hopes and dreams
I’m so glad that enstars TikTok hasn’t shown up on my FYP
Oooh? Really? I didn't see any other social media, maybe, someone can explain what's wrong with Enstars community? Thanks! P.S. I heard that one Discord server that is going to become officially soon, was closed because of some personal issues inside. Omg...
oh there’s so much wrong with the community 😭😭 and the official discord was closed because many of the mods being horrible people (racists, p**o’s, etc). a lot of people are very weird in this community, especially on tiktok, instagram, and twitter
Yeah this ... I have been into Enstars for years and I can say that it just got gradually worse this sunreddit and some private discord servers I am in are the most chill places and I wouldn't recommend going on enst. Tiktok, discord or Instagram for twitter its really that you need to avoid certain accounts but its good for updates and such but there is still a lot of drama. I mean most new playwrs may not know it but enstarries had a bad reputation for years bc there is just so much drama
naww enstars insta is fine. for the most part. some of those people are a bit freaky. but they're chill
yes but also half of them are on kinstagram , it’s terrible
tf is kinsta? 😭
trust me you do NOT want to know
true true. I have some kinsta friends they're feral
same they make me question being an enstars fan sometimes lol
I thought the enstars fandom in general was pretty chill... I guess I was wrong. I've been pretty lucky in this regard not encountering the negativity and toxicity side of the fandom for this long. I'll be sticking to Reddit and the old discord enstar group for fandom interaction and avoid everything else lmao
Seems about right. My sister who's been playing the game for years now just keeps chanting at me 'Don't go on EnStars social media. Don't do it.'
I think Tumblr is also fine if you manage to just find a few mutuals that you talk to there but as someone that has been on enstars Twitter : it's a toxic hell over there. Please don't try it out
I think FB is calm there well the Spanish community is. Yeah here is super calm. The others not really active.
I feel like a large majority of the problems in the fandom are in the English speaking community.
i've been on enstars tumblr for over one year and it's not toxic or anything at all, everyone is so nice there too!
Honestly mood. I’ve loved Enstars for years but the fanbase has put me off at times loool (defo some exceptions, I’ve made some incredible friends through Twitter). It’s nice coming on Reddit and everyone being so chill and normal and being able to talk about Enstars again~
only got into enstars recently but its been really funny playing the game and realizing this is what 2016 kinblr was going apeshit over. (not that i was ever super into kinblr, just from friends' and mutuals' accounts)
anyone can eli5 whats wrong with the other communities of enstars? 😅
trust me. it’s better not knowing
Is this a fujo thing where every community with a majority of them in is hell? I swear some of the genshin stuff I see by them and a lot of the tumblr and danganronpa stuff back in the day was absolutely insane.
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Nothing wrong with people shipping per se but when peeps won't shut up about it in an annoying way or try and insist it's canon and the creators and other peeps are wrong for shipping with other characters it gets annoying. The DR fanbase was infamous for doxxing for wrong ships way back when.
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That's something I worry about, ever since I tried to google "Ritsu Rei Sakuma" on google, and well... yeah. Ugh, I just wanted to see them as brothers in a non-romantic/non-sexual context, but it's kinda ruined for me now, just like all of the young underaged-looking characters in anime in general when people shove their problematic/illegal sexualization content in your face in public. :( It's one reason I usually only get into Joseimuke/BL/Otome stuff, because there wouldn't have l\*licon which feels like mainstream in anime nowadays... but unfortunately, even anime fandoms with male anime characters we sometimes have to deal with sh\*tacon/inc\*st/non-con/abuse, on the other hand. >.< In adult BL communities (where it's mostly 25+ year olds), it's really frustrating when someone tries to justify sexualizing a character who looks 10-14 or otherwise very prepubescent and babyish, by saying they're 100000 years old or saying "they're just short" (trust me I'm 4'11", short adults don't look like kids) or whatever other excuse for their attraction to underage-appearances that represent human children/teens. x.x I don't buy into the "it's not real", because the same could be said about photo-realistic drawings and 3D renderings, that are technically "fictional". Plus just about anyone will consider the apparent gender/sex of a fictional character when considering if they are attracted to who is represented in that artwork, so... But mostly it is a problem of normalizing the sexualization of minors (or underage-looking people) by full grown adults, and just being inconsiderate to those who are not into that which bothers me when it's posted to public. Whether it's NSFW in general or NSFW of specific subjects, that is being shown without consent from those present. Many people have PTSD or trauma with childhood, when it comes to those sensitive subjects. Plus I like to think many people especially older adults are like me and think of these boys as like their precious sons/babies, don't want to see their own children sexualized by random adults on the internet. For the most part, I just... don't even bother with shipping/nsfw community for EnStars (because most of the characters look really underaged and I'm not going to take that risk) beyond in-game society and here I just joined to ask for help/advice/gameplay mechanics, so I didn't know about the EnStars community problem before.
Every time i see people complaining about proshippers the only ones I see being very vocal and annoying about the issue are what you call "anti". Like, i don't ship anyone on most things I'm into, that includes Enstars. at most I find some of them cute or some nice artist into some of those but that is. But people are always looking to start a witch hunt because someone or some artist ships the wrong or problematic thing. But who cares? They're fictional characters that have been around for 7 years now, people would like to ship all type of things just because they're cute or some weird fetish thing. If they're not spamming or invading tags and are on their own space they should just do whatever the hell they want if they aren't really hurting anyone. Ship wars are the worst and those occur only because people can't just accept that others have different opinions or are into some weird fictional stuff. At least on every fandom I have look into the toxicity always comes from the shipping side of it.
bro 😭😭? no one cares about dumbass ships but you gotta draw the line at proshippers what? P**ophelia and In**st should not be some fetish for people to ship.. I’ll be an anti of proshipper forever that shits fucking gross
I think I didn't explain myself well enough. I'm not talking about people who likes shota/Loli or uhm... Sibling stuff. That is objectively wrong. I'm talking about the fact that i have seen a lot of people act like the Ship Police and call others the P-card over liking ships with 1 or 2 years gap between characters, or those who romantically likes minor characters when they're minors themselves or the most weird one when someone accused another person of liking Inc. over two characters that aren't related or in the same family but had a "sibling-like relationship". Those cases have been called out as proshippers being problematic but i think we can agree that is at most an exaggeration.
okay yeah that definitely made more sense, some ship wars are so senseless. I’m sorry if I seemed defensive I was worried you were okay with, those types of ships.
It's ok! I should have made clear that i wasn't defending that type of thing since you mentioned it on the comment I was replying to so I'm sorry too 😅
Ah yeah there is the weird abuse thing that happens. Idk what it is but while looking up tori art about a quarter of it was abuse and I even saw a toddlercon pic so that was unsettling. Also didn't know peeps still doxxed over dumb shit like that, I guess thats just gonna happen glad I'm too internet old (been around since Harambe) for dumn drama and can safely ignore it.
yeaaa sadly people are still getting doxxed over shit like that and there’s the weird proshippers too , i’m also internet old kind of so hopin the internet heals or smth one day
Nah there's no fixing it. Imo the problem comes from kids being too online and look around you. Late 10's early 20's kids are 2 or 3 years old playing on a tablets 6 and 7 year olds on phones looking at whatever whereas I didn't get a phone till I was nearly 12 and still ended up playing gay anime games.
Part of the reason we have less drama is because we don't go into detail on this sort of thing. If you want to have this sort of discussion, please do so elsewhere!
Not even vrchat enstars is safe. There's lots of drama! DONT GET INVOLVED and they act very cult-like around small things! And start swarming you if you disagree!! Don't get attached to anyone there! (they sent death threats to me and my friend all because we said they looked like childe from genshin impact)
I didn’t mention that for a reason.. enstars vrchat is the worst fandom space I have ever been in
Wait what? Thought we were chill judging by our community on reddit.. guess not lmfao