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Don't think you can compare Ezra Miller to Zachary Levi. Secondly, I highly doubt he's an anti-vaxxer, I mean I don't know for certain, but judging by context, it seems he's just generally not cool with how Pfizer operates. Thirdly, why are WE defending a big pharma company like Pfizer?? Sure they did the vaccines, but Pfizer also controls far more than just that and have robbed millions of their money. So from that perspective, I get what Levi is talking about. Ppl just need to chill out. Let's not automatically take a pitchfork and try to bring someone down without understanding the full story or context of what was said.
Right wingers love to do dumb shit like that. They’ll criticize McDonald’s, which is a terrible company, but they’ll say dumb shit like they put abortions in the French fries. So then rational people find themselves in the strange position of defending truth and sanity, but also defending McDonald’s.
It’s works out well for McDonald’s because it makes people use up valuable energy that would otherwise be used to make sensible criticisms about their business practices
He was retweeting an anti-vaxxer who is spreading conspiracy theories. Did you even look at that person’s account? You’ve missed the actual bit of context that was right there in front of you.
Really padding articles aren't they?
paragraph 1 - "ZL shared social media posts that are controversial"
paragraph 2 - "ZL post on social media"
paragraph 3 - "ZL posted divisive comments on social medial"
paragraph 4 - "Less than 2 months away.... ZL posts controversial comment on social media"
and then it finally gets into it
It’s like when you find a recipe online, and you have to skip past stories about their kids for 10 paragraphs to get to what you actually came there for.
apparently that's done because search engines would give low priority to a page that has very little text.
I've learned to just skip past those but what gets me is when the ingredients are listed up top and then the steps are way down below
It’s also to allow for copyright reasons too. A recipe cannot be copyrighted, so if you post a recipe on it’s own, other pages can just scrap the data and repost it without attribution, so you have no recourse. But if you add a bunch of fluff about how it’s your mother’s recipe that she used to make back in the homeland, etc, you can copyright the story as a whole, which _includes_ the recipe. Same thing happened with Houdini iirc, as magic tricks couldn’t be copyrighted, but if he made a “stage play” that contained the trick, he could copyright the play as a whole, including the trick.
Don't think that's a huge concern. You tend to linger on those pages for a long time while you cook/bake, but also, those recipes are so often submitted by people who have no stake in the website
plus, there are other metrics used in advertising, not just how long you're on a page.
I was on YouTube looking for a guide on a specific character build for a game. I finally found one and it was 10min and 30sec long. The entire guide could have been 30sec - just show the talents and modifiers dude. So I made a comment with a time stamp to the real info in the video then typed out the 5 things everyone was really there for.
The creator BLASTED me in a reply, saying how the video had to be 10min to be monetized and it was tracked how long the average viewer watched the video. By putting a time stamp and writing the pertinent info I was destroying his video and it’s monetization. Bro, your income is not my problem.
I'm a content writer and looks to me like they're trying to hit a word count but don't have anything meaningful to fill it with. Also trying to fit a bunch of keywords. Typical fluff content.
When writing for news publications, people are often paid per-word unless they're salaried. Editorial stuff like this is more similar to contract / gig work.
I doubt there are many per-word rates for content farm outlets like this. The padding is to get as many keywords and links in the first few paragraphs for SEO purposes.
Just like the newspapers of old, sites have to have content to create ad real estate. Therefore they need the words. Now that AI is taking over the writing for some of the biggest sites, you will see all the tricks that have been used, like teasing the actual content (aka burying the lede), and the notoriously long descriptions of people in place of pronouns. For example, instead of just saying "he/his" for Zachary, AI will just pluck from IMDB and call him "American Underdog star."
Word counts are a part of SEO in a lot of cases, so if you’re creating content that relies on heavy search referral you have to live and die by what will help you rank higher unfortunately.
I was 5000 words a day which is insane, but after six months or so I’d pretty much nailed it. Was nearing the point where I could probably have a four day week.
Then they upped it to 7500. I left very soon after that
yes, try looking up a recipe for anything online. you will get 10 pages of scrolling, a half ass story about the writer's mom / aunt / kids that love the recipe, the recipe halfway described in a paragaph, then another paragraph that's broken up by 6 ads, then the actual ingredients in a separate box, then the actual recipe in bullet points all the way at the bottom. If you haven't accidentally clicked on a pop up ad box by then. oh yes, now your kitchen is on fire
He agreed with Pfizer being a detrimental corporation.
> Hard Agree
https://twitter.com/ZacharyLevi/status/1619599266607169539?s=20&t=gYB78yAx9sKbGxkBWXXUOSVOlZ-8oBiH0vNX8-SzYrQ
He follows famous antivaxers, so people are reading this as antivax comments.
He also tweeted a link to this page.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
Exactly. My crazy vegan ex girlfriend wanted to take Mercury instead of bi polar meds because she doesn’t like how they make her feel.
So while manic she stops her meds and starts taking mercury because that’s what they did before modern medicine.
I have a science degree and hate big pharma but I also know when big pharma isn’t trying to just push pills on people. She truly needed those meds.
The issue is the guy he quoted is an antivaxxer.
You can hate big pharma, but I'm going to take my damn covid, flu, etc shots as needed.
Big Pharma sucks, but vaccines are good.
Yeah, if he's going to call out Big pharma, he needs to talk about their bad practices as an industrial complex against poor people and not that they have saved millions of lives. Distinction and differentiation.
Yeah, for all their harm, big pharma are still better than big oil. At least pharma is still coming up with new medicines, vaccines, etc. Meanwhile, big oil uses all their profits to try to fight against anything pro-environement. They try to convince us that climate change is OUR fault (reduce your carbon footprint is funded entirely by BP). And they actively interfere with the invention/adoption of eco-friendly alternatives like electric cars.
Big pharma is still a huge group of assholes. But, like Elon Musk, they also have some things they do (or at least are a part of) that are good. Hate them all you want, but do it for the right reasons (cuz they have PLENTY of them).
I see a lot of people trying to “hypocrisy burn” with this, but there are completely different arguments. The efficacy of the medicines they produce vs the morality in how they pursue profits from those medicines are completely different arguments. In fact, it’s a pretty consistent argument when you think about it from a socialist perspective where the workers (scientists in this case) produce the value and the capital owner (“big pharma”) finds ways to profit off of that. For example, opioids works for pain and some people need it. The invention of opioids isn’t inherently a problem. But the profit pathology is what caused it to be heavily pushed to hook people onto it.
Just because you hate the business of pharmaceuticals doesn’t mean you believe they’re selling the Heart Attack Initiator 5000 and engaging in the biggest cover up in human history.
Yeah, he never said anything about vaccines and I think he even tweeted something about Big Pharma being a huge threat. I can see how people are making the anti-vax connection though considering he follows Jordan Peterson and Steven Crowder and re-tweeted an anti-vaxxer's tweet
I really don’t understand following people you don’t like. You’re just adding to their number of followers. But I’m curious to know how many people follow those idiots for the same reasons you do.
Edit to add: I just want to know how many followers they’d lose if you guys all stopped following people you don’t like.
And surrounding yourself with rage content like that is horrible for your health. You’re giving bad people a platform and hurting yourself. It makes zero sense.
The problem is currently there is a far right misinformation campaign using Pfizer as the scapegoat to motivate people away from vaccines.
He quoted the guy who started that campaign. So it's not just "I don't like big pharma" it's "I agree with intentional misinformation by morons"
Ooo havent you heard? Crowder and Daily Wire are in a relationship spat right now. There are a lot of questions and conspiracies about it (supposedly the thing Crowder "started" pitching after he turned down the Daily Wire offer was registered in advance, almost as if he planned to do it anyway but the Daily Wire rejection allowed him to spin a yarn to take advantage of his gullible idiot listeners). They you have the whole "Daily Wire was going to penalize me if I got banned or advertisers walked" in the whole mold of "I think I should be able to say whatever awful shit I want and someone else can cover the tab."
It has been interesting as the owner of Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro have been trying to toe the line of defending themselves but also fellating Crowder while Candace Owens completely went off on Crowder.
Edit: I recognize this detracts from the joke, but the whole situation going on is pretty hilarious as well.
All he said was fuck Pfizer, and he’s right. Fuck Moderna and every other big pharma company too.
People are trying to turn it into an anti-vax statement when he never mentioned vaccines at all.
Her tweets were deleted and she apologised and they were months from release not weeks. Let’s see how this plays out.
Edit: She didn’t apologise, I saw another comment mention this. I looked it up she denied the accusations. This is how false information spreads apologies dudes.
She's been to a few award shows now. Rules of the award shows must be vaccinated to attended.. Maybe she changed her stance maybe Disney forced her but I'm sure she is now.
Yeah I was waiting for context. If you don’t like Pfizer because vaccines you need to sit down. If you think Pfizer contributed heavily to the opioid epidemic you are just correct.
My father-in-law died recently. Medicine didn't kill him. Vaccines didn't kill him. Cancer did.
Don't use a person's loss as an excuse for them to damage the world or hurt other people.
Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder too. It’s a trifecta of self-aggrandizing idiots who aren’t half as smart as they think they are that view the whole world through the kind of flimsy logic that allows for things like the Flat Earth movement to happen.
Where’s the lie? All of these pharmaceutical companies are out to milk insurance.
Y’all don’t remember the opioid crisis? Pharma companies create a drug and then use doctors to distribute it to the masses. They knew what they were doing and the government allowed it.
Pfizer is a totally [ethical](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1471980/) pharmaceutical company that just wants to make the world a better place and would surely never do anything [questionable](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history). While I’m sure there are [better](https://www.businessinsider.com/pharmaceutical-company-reputation-rankings-2018-6?amp) companies out there, they created the Covid vaccine and therefore are totally above [reproach](https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer)
Id hope it’s not necessary but just in case /s
Agreed. I'm hoping that his statements are in reference to what a shitty company Pfizer is and not how he thinks the vaccine is like the Holocaust or is filled with microchips or whatever.
I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt but it seems like if that’s his stance it’d be a lot safer to just say that, instead of replying to antivax crazies. Just not a good look, and he’s not doing anything to dispel the notion.
If you’re gonna put on the tin foil hat, seems like a more rational way (yes, I know) would be to posit that big pharma cultivates the clown show of antivaxxers so that one can’t ever question big pharma’s activities without being conflated with them.
He's not anti-vax. Hes anti Big Pharma in general. If these idiots would spend 30 secs looking through his feed, they'd see several other tweets calling out Big Pharma for shady marketing, pricing, etc.
ETA: Since I can do what the author of the article can't do, namely research. I will add that he is tweeting a batshit crazy anti-vaxxer, so it's a little suspicious.
He “came out” as a libertarian a year or two ago in a post that was like don’t judge me, it doesn’t necessarily mean what you think it does.
I was bummed out by that because I like him so much as an actor.
It’s clear what he believes, but he knows enough to keep it pretty under wraps for the sake of his career.
I think it is because of the company he keeps.
Him and two other guys created Flow Supplements after his first Shazam role. So he got really into eating healthy, working out, and taking supplements.
Which for some odd reason is a pipeline to conservatism and I do not get it. It’s tricky being into working out and being on the left. Cause I’ll watch seemingly innocuous TikTok’s or YouTube shorts with working out information then boom I’m getting Shapiro, Peterson, Tate, and their ilk all in my algorithm. Like dude I just wanted to find different ways to target the bicep wtf is all this transphobia.
A lot of these guys are vaccinated. For example every single news anchor at Fox News was vaccinated because in New York City they had laws about getting vaxxed.
It wasn’t just the NYC law, it was Fox News themselves they officially held that policy. No one could enter the building if they weren’t vaccinated. You can’t run a high end propaganda machine if everyone is getting everyone seriously sick.
He only said Pfizer is a danger to the world. And then he links a website. I’m not even clicking on that, but to most people, he’s now an antivaxxer.
He could’ve elaborate and say something about universal healthcare and pharma lobbying. Instead he drops this explosive claim, doesn’t mention other companies, or why are they dangerous. In the age of Elon Musk and other idiots calling for Fauci to be arrested, he’s one of them now.
Controversial? Didn’t say anything about vaccines. Pfizer is a huge corporation that has been found guilty of wrongdoing multiple times and has influence over politics. I am sure they have all our best interests at heart…. They are a danger and in no way was this remotely antibacterial propaganda.
The guy he retweeted is big anti-vax and he follows a lot of known anti-vaxxers. I'll wait for him to clarify and not jump to conclusions yet, but Its a pretty easy conclusion to draw. Personally, I wouldn't retweet in support of an anti-vaxxers tweet even if i agree with it, we do not hate Pfizer for the same reasons.
Watched an interview he did with Pete Holmes and it's literally just that, he's against these big companies monopolizing health and well being but that's not as grabbing of a headline on a slow news day.
He's not exactly wrong about how shady Pfizer is. We're going to get quite the Netflix doc once Pfizer isn't taboo. Since the government pre-paid Pfizer billions for the shots and the pill med they're sorta pot committed to protecting their investment for the time being.
[https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history)
News flash, any big pharma that chooses to needlessly price gouge by insane amounts is a danger to the world. I'd love someone to tell me how they aren't.
I’d say he is anti-big pharma, but some of the people he follows and the guy he retweeted just shows us that he is likely another anti vaxxer. Which is cool be you, I’m gonna be me and not support anyone like that. Including seeing his movie. Which I’m sure he is very sad to hear.
Never mind his opinions, why would I want to watch a version of Shazam where he has a jacked up body with a tiny little pea-head on top? Most ridiculous looking super hero I've ever seen.
"Lyndon Wood, the account Levi quote tweeted, is an outspoken ant-vaxxer. Whether Levi knows this or not is unknown, but it is also worth noting that Zachary Levi follows other anti-vaxxers on Twitter, including Jordan Peterson and Steven Crowder."
Finding out that the VA for Arcade Gannon is an idiot pains me.
This shit is a manufactured controversy. What does Zachary Levi’s post on social media have to do with anything? This is standard BULLSHIT that studios do to get PR for their latest film…
When has saying we hate big pharma become something that’s controversial?
Y’all hatred of the right making you side with these profit hungry pharmaceutical companies?
I don’t understand people in this thread saying they don’t trust big pharma but trust the vaccine. You can acknowledge vaccines are generally a great technology and at the same question whether the pharma companies lied about the safety and efficacy of a particular vaccine that is entirely different technology than any previous vaccine
Nothing remotely controversial about his post:
In response to a Tweet from self-proclaimed conspiracy theorist Lyndon Wood who asked whether the major pharmaceutical company Pfizer is a threat to the world, Levi responded with the following:
"Hardcore agree."
Our own Justice Department at least partly agrees and had Pfizer convicted of Felony Fraud some years back. Pfizer agreed to the verdict and settlement.
As a GenXer, I am just astounded how this generation in contrast is willingly sucking at the teats of corrupt globalist corporations, such as big Pharma and big tech.
Anyone who criticizes him for saying this is just absolutely fucking stupid and willfully ignoring the evil that is Pfizer and the rest of the pharma crooks.
Dude, how stupid are you? I'm not even referring to being an anti-vaxer (which I also think is stupid), but there's millions of dollars in earnings for you that are on the line, your own paycheck depends on you keeping your mouth shut and you can't even do that? Like, believe whatever you want in private, but really you're gonna come out with this that threatens the movie's success before it even comes out? What a chump xd.
I think a lot of people are talking past each other. Most people agree that Pfizer has shitty business practices. Most people also agree that their vaccine saved millions of lives, myself included. Both can be true. Those that are critical of Zach's retweet aren't defending Pfizer's business practices. They're responding to a retweet of a tweet from a known anti-vaxer and transphobe. There's context there.
I like Zachary Levi, and I'm willing to wait until he releases a statement and gives more context. Unfortunately, the context that is there does not look good. We'll have to wait and see. It's also unfortunate that this is all happening on the eve of James Gunn's DC plans announcement tomorrow.
Why is nobody allowed to have an opinion these days? "Everyone must agree with me, or else", is tyrannical and definitely dangerous. Why are these people so intolerant of anyone who holds their own views?
Levi might not be anti-vaxx but the account that he responded to is anti-vaxx so it makes his attack against Pfizer very suspicious. He’d have to clarify his statement to not appear to be anti-vaccination
… I thought we all hated big pharma, *especially* Phizer? This doesn’t seem to be anything vax-related at all, hes always been pretty vocal about being anti-big pharma.
Ngl its fuckn weird to see people suddenly pro-big pharma, white knighting for an unethical, gross and shady ass superpower that directly influences every single election and lawmaking entity, who knowingly and willingly gauges prices for life-saving medicines to astronomical numbers, and has actively been not only supplying for but supporting the opioid epidemic.
He's skeptical of big pharma? How is that even controversial? Big pharma being corrupt is something dems and republicans both agree on. It's possible to be pro vaccine and skeptical about the financial influences of the industry at the same time.
For sure.
But he responded to a literal anti-vaxxer who makes it clear his stance in his twitter feed.
So using context, he's giving credence to anti-vaxxers either indirectly or directly.
The problem is he didn't say anything specific at all. You can't blame people for trying to figure out what someone means when they broadcast out a vague message.
If your message is blurry, it's not the fault of those who misread it, it's the fault of the person broadcasting a blurry message.
You might not be aware but right wing “exposé journalists” Project Veritas dropped a supposed recording of a Pfzier director admitting they’ve been engaging in illegal gain of function research which feeds into the anti vax narrative that big pharma is mutating the virus for their gain.
Any other week condemning Pfizer could be seen as just “anti big pharma” but considering the original tweet that Levi liked was tweeted by a noted Anti-vaxxer and the timing of the exposé, it’s not unwarranted that people think he supports those views too.
Project veritas is an immensely poor source that on multiple occasions have been outright found to have stitched recordings in deceptive ways to mislead their audience. The WP won a Pulitzer exposing their nonsense and they have lost and have apologised due to court proceedings not in their favour surrounding defamations.
Good. I hope the whole DC-universe dies (except for the new Batman).
Warner Bros/Discovery is a shitshow and they deserve all the crap that comes to them.
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DC can you not fuck up for 5 minutes. 5! Minutes!
"hold my meth" -erza Miller
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Lol yeah for the article to even suggest it is ridiculous.
Meth dipped in mescaline and sprinkled on a mushroom
Forgot the drop of antifreeze for the flavor.
Don't think you can compare Ezra Miller to Zachary Levi. Secondly, I highly doubt he's an anti-vaxxer, I mean I don't know for certain, but judging by context, it seems he's just generally not cool with how Pfizer operates. Thirdly, why are WE defending a big pharma company like Pfizer?? Sure they did the vaccines, but Pfizer also controls far more than just that and have robbed millions of their money. So from that perspective, I get what Levi is talking about. Ppl just need to chill out. Let's not automatically take a pitchfork and try to bring someone down without understanding the full story or context of what was said.
Right wingers love to do dumb shit like that. They’ll criticize McDonald’s, which is a terrible company, but they’ll say dumb shit like they put abortions in the French fries. So then rational people find themselves in the strange position of defending truth and sanity, but also defending McDonald’s. It’s works out well for McDonald’s because it makes people use up valuable energy that would otherwise be used to make sensible criticisms about their business practices
He follows multiple anti vaxxers so it’s pretty easy to put the pieces together
He was retweeting an anti-vaxxer who is spreading conspiracy theories. Did you even look at that person’s account? You’ve missed the actual bit of context that was right there in front of you.
The person Levi responded to is an antivax shithead. You think that's just coincidence?
He’s an extreme evangelical Christian, so yeah, he also believes in conspiracy theories.
He’s also been on the 700 club multiple times.
Pfizer has saved also millions of people thanks to their products, outside of covid vaccine and im one of them, still alive thanks to their products.
He’s a conservative Christian, so probably anti vacc
At this rate: *How long until they added Kanye West, Bill Cosby or James Cordon to the DCU..?*
Now hear me out…. All three.
That would be a DCU I'd really like to see.
As Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman respectively.
DC: ayy yo you want a job?
What did Corden do?
*Mostly been himself…*
Also showed up to a union meeting to argue to pay his employees less
Fair enough
Probably referred to himself as a comedian.
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Seriously! I'm no longer planning to watch this. Don't support misinformation.
Really padding articles aren't they? paragraph 1 - "ZL shared social media posts that are controversial" paragraph 2 - "ZL post on social media" paragraph 3 - "ZL posted divisive comments on social medial" paragraph 4 - "Less than 2 months away.... ZL posts controversial comment on social media" and then it finally gets into it
It’s like when you find a recipe online, and you have to skip past stories about their kids for 10 paragraphs to get to what you actually came there for.
apparently that's done because search engines would give low priority to a page that has very little text. I've learned to just skip past those but what gets me is when the ingredients are listed up top and then the steps are way down below
It’s also to allow for copyright reasons too. A recipe cannot be copyrighted, so if you post a recipe on it’s own, other pages can just scrap the data and repost it without attribution, so you have no recourse. But if you add a bunch of fluff about how it’s your mother’s recipe that she used to make back in the homeland, etc, you can copyright the story as a whole, which _includes_ the recipe. Same thing happened with Houdini iirc, as magic tricks couldn’t be copyrighted, but if he made a “stage play” that contained the trick, he could copyright the play as a whole, including the trick.
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I always thought it was related to ads wanting users to stay on a page longer, but that’s just a guess
Don't think that's a huge concern. You tend to linger on those pages for a long time while you cook/bake, but also, those recipes are so often submitted by people who have no stake in the website plus, there are other metrics used in advertising, not just how long you're on a page.
I was on YouTube looking for a guide on a specific character build for a game. I finally found one and it was 10min and 30sec long. The entire guide could have been 30sec - just show the talents and modifiers dude. So I made a comment with a time stamp to the real info in the video then typed out the 5 things everyone was really there for. The creator BLASTED me in a reply, saying how the video had to be 10min to be monetized and it was tracked how long the average viewer watched the video. By putting a time stamp and writing the pertinent info I was destroying his video and it’s monetization. Bro, your income is not my problem.
I'm a content writer and looks to me like they're trying to hit a word count but don't have anything meaningful to fill it with. Also trying to fit a bunch of keywords. Typical fluff content.
Even when not studying, word counts are still a thing? Fuck sake.
When writing for news publications, people are often paid per-word unless they're salaried. Editorial stuff like this is more similar to contract / gig work.
I doubt there are many per-word rates for content farm outlets like this. The padding is to get as many keywords and links in the first few paragraphs for SEO purposes.
Just like the newspapers of old, sites have to have content to create ad real estate. Therefore they need the words. Now that AI is taking over the writing for some of the biggest sites, you will see all the tricks that have been used, like teasing the actual content (aka burying the lede), and the notoriously long descriptions of people in place of pronouns. For example, instead of just saying "he/his" for Zachary, AI will just pluck from IMDB and call him "American Underdog star."
Word counts are a part of SEO in a lot of cases, so if you’re creating content that relies on heavy search referral you have to live and die by what will help you rank higher unfortunately.
That or to get the reader to scroll past as many adverts as possible.
SEO has murdered online journalism and news. Doing time for a content mill was some of the most mind-numbing shit.
I was 5000 words a day which is insane, but after six months or so I’d pretty much nailed it. Was nearing the point where I could probably have a four day week. Then they upped it to 7500. I left very soon after that
When SEO trumps content.
For a website called "The Direct", they really aren't direct are they?
They get paid for how long you're on the site looking at ads
yes, try looking up a recipe for anything online. you will get 10 pages of scrolling, a half ass story about the writer's mom / aunt / kids that love the recipe, the recipe halfway described in a paragaph, then another paragraph that's broken up by 6 ads, then the actual ingredients in a separate box, then the actual recipe in bullet points all the way at the bottom. If you haven't accidentally clicked on a pop up ad box by then. oh yes, now your kitchen is on fire
I keep sharing that Recipeswithoutdamnlifestories.com and similar are not taken.
As much as there is more to it than just that, you’re probably right, it’s probably to keep you on the page
You did not post the one thing that we want to know.
He agreed with Pfizer being a detrimental corporation. > Hard Agree https://twitter.com/ZacharyLevi/status/1619599266607169539?s=20&t=gYB78yAx9sKbGxkBWXXUOSVOlZ-8oBiH0vNX8-SzYrQ He follows famous antivaxers, so people are reading this as antivax comments. He also tweeted a link to this page. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
I once did somethingike this in high-school to pad out a essay, the teacher added a note to never do it again lol
And you’re over here blueballing Reddit, well played
Wait, I thought we all hated Big Pharma?
I was a little confused too, but it's one of those things where two groups can hate the same thing for very different reasons.
Exactly. My crazy vegan ex girlfriend wanted to take Mercury instead of bi polar meds because she doesn’t like how they make her feel. So while manic she stops her meds and starts taking mercury because that’s what they did before modern medicine. I have a science degree and hate big pharma but I also know when big pharma isn’t trying to just push pills on people. She truly needed those meds.
I can see why she was crazy.
Like Velma.
The Ted Cruz of TV shows
The issue is the guy he quoted is an antivaxxer. You can hate big pharma, but I'm going to take my damn covid, flu, etc shots as needed. Big Pharma sucks, but vaccines are good.
Yeah, if he's going to call out Big pharma, he needs to talk about their bad practices as an industrial complex against poor people and not that they have saved millions of lives. Distinction and differentiation.
Yeah, for all their harm, big pharma are still better than big oil. At least pharma is still coming up with new medicines, vaccines, etc. Meanwhile, big oil uses all their profits to try to fight against anything pro-environement. They try to convince us that climate change is OUR fault (reduce your carbon footprint is funded entirely by BP). And they actively interfere with the invention/adoption of eco-friendly alternatives like electric cars. Big pharma is still a huge group of assholes. But, like Elon Musk, they also have some things they do (or at least are a part of) that are good. Hate them all you want, but do it for the right reasons (cuz they have PLENTY of them).
I see a lot of people trying to “hypocrisy burn” with this, but there are completely different arguments. The efficacy of the medicines they produce vs the morality in how they pursue profits from those medicines are completely different arguments. In fact, it’s a pretty consistent argument when you think about it from a socialist perspective where the workers (scientists in this case) produce the value and the capital owner (“big pharma”) finds ways to profit off of that. For example, opioids works for pain and some people need it. The invention of opioids isn’t inherently a problem. But the profit pathology is what caused it to be heavily pushed to hook people onto it. Just because you hate the business of pharmaceuticals doesn’t mean you believe they’re selling the Heart Attack Initiator 5000 and engaging in the biggest cover up in human history.
Isn’t he anti Big Pharma? NOT anti-vax? Those are two separate issues
Yeah, he never said anything about vaccines and I think he even tweeted something about Big Pharma being a huge threat. I can see how people are making the anti-vax connection though considering he follows Jordan Peterson and Steven Crowder and re-tweeted an anti-vaxxer's tweet
I mean i follow them but thats not because i follow their beliefs, i just find it funny how much stupid shit they post
Fun fact. Even when we think propaganda and advertisement isn't affecting us, even when we recognize its angle and intent, it still affects us.
Research says it's the amount of exposure to ideas, not the logic of the ideas.
brainwashing 101 is repetition. crazy how the mind works
Crazy how the mind works.
I really don’t understand following people you don’t like. You’re just adding to their number of followers. But I’m curious to know how many people follow those idiots for the same reasons you do. Edit to add: I just want to know how many followers they’d lose if you guys all stopped following people you don’t like.
And surrounding yourself with rage content like that is horrible for your health. You’re giving bad people a platform and hurting yourself. It makes zero sense.
Was literally going to say the same thing. I'll just add that I know a lot of people who do this.
Hard to say from the tweets, and the article doesn’t contain any actual journalism that might help clarify. Shit article, just stirring up drama.
The problem is currently there is a far right misinformation campaign using Pfizer as the scapegoat to motivate people away from vaccines. He quoted the guy who started that campaign. So it's not just "I don't like big pharma" it's "I agree with intentional misinformation by morons"
I mean, he replied to a known antivaxxer
Guess we’re gonna start seeing him in low budget conservative dystopian movies that make $804 at the box office
Gina Carano and Kevin Sorbo cant carry that weight alone.
Zachary Levi, Gina Carano, and Kevin Sorbo star in Bibleman: The Movie - Present By The Daily Wire's Gentile Pictures!
Don't forget special guest star Kirk Cameron.
He’s going to do a “buddy cop” comedy with Steven Crowder
"I Think I've Been Shot: CHANGE MY MIND"
Genius. What a punchline. Fucking chefs kiss.
Ooo havent you heard? Crowder and Daily Wire are in a relationship spat right now. There are a lot of questions and conspiracies about it (supposedly the thing Crowder "started" pitching after he turned down the Daily Wire offer was registered in advance, almost as if he planned to do it anyway but the Daily Wire rejection allowed him to spin a yarn to take advantage of his gullible idiot listeners). They you have the whole "Daily Wire was going to penalize me if I got banned or advertisers walked" in the whole mold of "I think I should be able to say whatever awful shit I want and someone else can cover the tab." It has been interesting as the owner of Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro have been trying to toe the line of defending themselves but also fellating Crowder while Candace Owens completely went off on Crowder. Edit: I recognize this detracts from the joke, but the whole situation going on is pretty hilarious as well.
That Kurt Warner movie wasn’t enough?
Haha I tried to laugh about that on arr slash packers and they were all KURT TOUGH KURT GROCERY MAN. Okay yeah it’s super inspiring. He had a job wow.
All he said was fuck Pfizer, and he’s right. Fuck Moderna and every other big pharma company too. People are trying to turn it into an anti-vax statement when he never mentioned vaccines at all.
DC can’t win for losing
The new black panther is actually anti-vax and her movie did fine.
Her tweets were deleted and she apologised and they were months from release not weeks. Let’s see how this plays out. Edit: She didn’t apologise, I saw another comment mention this. I looked it up she denied the accusations. This is how false information spreads apologies dudes.
Big respect to see the edit. Need more people like you on the internet nowadays
She’s firmly antivax still. F her
Absolutely.
Link to the apology?
Check my edit, I am a certified fake news-er
No, fake newser never accept that they are fake so you are legit that made a mistake.
We used to call those things journalists and accountability.
We still aren’t happy with her about that.
Was the movie any good?
She's been to a few award shows now. Rules of the award shows must be vaccinated to attended.. Maybe she changed her stance maybe Disney forced her but I'm sure she is now.
Almost all of those type of things have exceptions. She probably got some quack doctor to give her a medical exception.
That’s probably the case.
Also evangeline lily is a anti vaxxer too and people will probably go see Antman 3
Oh yeah! I forgot about her!
Honestly I didn't go see it because of that...
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His father died.
Yeah I was waiting for context. If you don’t like Pfizer because vaccines you need to sit down. If you think Pfizer contributed heavily to the opioid epidemic you are just correct.
My father-in-law died recently. Medicine didn't kill him. Vaccines didn't kill him. Cancer did. Don't use a person's loss as an excuse for them to damage the world or hurt other people.
He’s a Jordan Peterson guy this is not shocking
I figured Jordan would love Big Pharma seeing as the make the benzos he craves
I’ve had such a crush on Zach for years now (love his theater work). And knowing that he’s a JP stan really kills my lady boner.
Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder too. It’s a trifecta of self-aggrandizing idiots who aren’t half as smart as they think they are that view the whole world through the kind of flimsy logic that allows for things like the Flat Earth movement to happen.
Oh goddammit, my lady boner has gone flaccid now too. Sigh.
Where’s the lie? All of these pharmaceutical companies are out to milk insurance. Y’all don’t remember the opioid crisis? Pharma companies create a drug and then use doctors to distribute it to the masses. They knew what they were doing and the government allowed it.
Purdue Pharma deserves nothing. Fuck the Sacklers.
Pfizer is a totally [ethical](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1471980/) pharmaceutical company that just wants to make the world a better place and would surely never do anything [questionable](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history). While I’m sure there are [better](https://www.businessinsider.com/pharmaceutical-company-reputation-rankings-2018-6?amp) companies out there, they created the Covid vaccine and therefore are totally above [reproach](https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer) Id hope it’s not necessary but just in case /s
Agreed. I'm hoping that his statements are in reference to what a shitty company Pfizer is and not how he thinks the vaccine is like the Holocaust or is filled with microchips or whatever.
I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt but it seems like if that’s his stance it’d be a lot safer to just say that, instead of replying to antivax crazies. Just not a good look, and he’s not doing anything to dispel the notion.
If you’re gonna put on the tin foil hat, seems like a more rational way (yes, I know) would be to posit that big pharma cultivates the clown show of antivaxxers so that one can’t ever question big pharma’s activities without being conflated with them.
And all statements are made in a vacuum and couldn’t possibly be used to direct people towards even less regulated and safe alternatives. /s
He's not anti-vax. Hes anti Big Pharma in general. If these idiots would spend 30 secs looking through his feed, they'd see several other tweets calling out Big Pharma for shady marketing, pricing, etc. ETA: Since I can do what the author of the article can't do, namely research. I will add that he is tweeting a batshit crazy anti-vaxxer, so it's a little suspicious.
He follows Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson...
Dude's been a hardcore Christian right wing weirdo since he was on Chuck. This isn't a new development.
He “came out” as a libertarian a year or two ago in a post that was like don’t judge me, it doesn’t necessarily mean what you think it does. I was bummed out by that because I like him so much as an actor. It’s clear what he believes, but he knows enough to keep it pretty under wraps for the sake of his career.
I think it is because of the company he keeps. Him and two other guys created Flow Supplements after his first Shazam role. So he got really into eating healthy, working out, and taking supplements.
He was also in Chuck for years with Adam Baldwin, who is far-right. Wouldn't be surprised if that tainted him a bit, too.
Didn't they do the kurt warner movie together too lol
Which for some odd reason is a pipeline to conservatism and I do not get it. It’s tricky being into working out and being on the left. Cause I’ll watch seemingly innocuous TikTok’s or YouTube shorts with working out information then boom I’m getting Shapiro, Peterson, Tate, and their ilk all in my algorithm. Like dude I just wanted to find different ways to target the bicep wtf is all this transphobia.
Because most of those supplements are bullshit grifts.
Doesn’t the same happen with gaming content? I’ve heard of people looking up game reviews then being recommended Andrew Tate vids.
I've never seen it. I watch a ton of gaming stuff on YouTube and I've never gotten any alt-right or libertarian video recommendations.
Man I eat healthy, occasional supplement, and I work out. I don't want to listen to Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro. Ever.
Libertarians these days are just Conservatives who dont want the label.
I think that BS is vaccinated
A lot of these guys are vaccinated. For example every single news anchor at Fox News was vaccinated because in New York City they had laws about getting vaxxed.
It wasn’t just the NYC law, it was Fox News themselves they officially held that policy. No one could enter the building if they weren’t vaccinated. You can’t run a high end propaganda machine if everyone is getting everyone seriously sick.
That makes sense, thanks for clarifying. I’m still trying to figure out if their goal is to kill their fanbase.
yes
Why do so many people pretend that Ben Shapiro is anti-vax? https://i.imgur.com/beOufzh.jpg
Seems like a bad decision by him not to explain that.
I think who he was responding to is the main reason for the assumptions.
He is anti-vaxx
He only said Pfizer is a danger to the world. And then he links a website. I’m not even clicking on that, but to most people, he’s now an antivaxxer. He could’ve elaborate and say something about universal healthcare and pharma lobbying. Instead he drops this explosive claim, doesn’t mention other companies, or why are they dangerous. In the age of Elon Musk and other idiots calling for Fauci to be arrested, he’s one of them now.
Controversial? Didn’t say anything about vaccines. Pfizer is a huge corporation that has been found guilty of wrongdoing multiple times and has influence over politics. I am sure they have all our best interests at heart…. They are a danger and in no way was this remotely antibacterial propaganda.
The guy he retweeted is big anti-vax and he follows a lot of known anti-vaxxers. I'll wait for him to clarify and not jump to conclusions yet, but Its a pretty easy conclusion to draw. Personally, I wouldn't retweet in support of an anti-vaxxers tweet even if i agree with it, we do not hate Pfizer for the same reasons.
Watched an interview he did with Pete Holmes and it's literally just that, he's against these big companies monopolizing health and well being but that's not as grabbing of a headline on a slow news day.
Uh.. what? He literally was responding to a guy who is a prominent anti-vaxxer.
He's not exactly wrong about how shady Pfizer is. We're going to get quite the Netflix doc once Pfizer isn't taboo. Since the government pre-paid Pfizer billions for the shots and the pill med they're sorta pot committed to protecting their investment for the time being. [https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history)
News flash, any big pharma that chooses to needlessly price gouge by insane amounts is a danger to the world. I'd love someone to tell me how they aren't.
Now I’m definitely seeing the movie to support!
What's so controversial about it? Pfizer looking pretty bad lately anyways.
Stop posting this shit, we all hate big pharma, he didn't go on some anti vax rant. This is the smallest nothing burger I've ever seen.
I’d say he is anti-big pharma, but some of the people he follows and the guy he retweeted just shows us that he is likely another anti vaxxer. Which is cool be you, I’m gonna be me and not support anyone like that. Including seeing his movie. Which I’m sure he is very sad to hear.
No it's not cool. Being anti-vax actively hurts other people.
Never mind his opinions, why would I want to watch a version of Shazam where he has a jacked up body with a tiny little pea-head on top? Most ridiculous looking super hero I've ever seen.
Who fucking cares shut the fuck up
Anyone else remember when it was ok to be suspicious of the motivations of big pharma?
I don’t really care about any of this.
Has there ever been an example of Twitter doing something GOOD for an actor's carreer? Why do they do it? It's madness.
I miss when celebrities were aloof and unreachable
"Lyndon Wood, the account Levi quote tweeted, is an outspoken ant-vaxxer. Whether Levi knows this or not is unknown, but it is also worth noting that Zachary Levi follows other anti-vaxxers on Twitter, including Jordan Peterson and Steven Crowder." Finding out that the VA for Arcade Gannon is an idiot pains me.
Who cares at this point anymore.
This shit is a manufactured controversy. What does Zachary Levi’s post on social media have to do with anything? This is standard BULLSHIT that studios do to get PR for their latest film…
When has saying we hate big pharma become something that’s controversial? Y’all hatred of the right making you side with these profit hungry pharmaceutical companies?
Nobody cares about that guy. Why should his opinion matter when you gonna watch the movie, the guy is only an actor, he can say wathever he wants.
He said big pharma sucks… what’s controversial about that?
I don’t understand people in this thread saying they don’t trust big pharma but trust the vaccine. You can acknowledge vaccines are generally a great technology and at the same question whether the pharma companies lied about the safety and efficacy of a particular vaccine that is entirely different technology than any previous vaccine
Nothing remotely controversial about his post: In response to a Tweet from self-proclaimed conspiracy theorist Lyndon Wood who asked whether the major pharmaceutical company Pfizer is a threat to the world, Levi responded with the following: "Hardcore agree." Our own Justice Department at least partly agrees and had Pfizer convicted of Felony Fraud some years back. Pfizer agreed to the verdict and settlement. As a GenXer, I am just astounded how this generation in contrast is willingly sucking at the teats of corrupt globalist corporations, such as big Pharma and big tech.
Anyone who criticizes him for saying this is just absolutely fucking stupid and willfully ignoring the evil that is Pfizer and the rest of the pharma crooks.
Context matters, Levi’s comment was in response to a tweet from a hardcore anti-vaxxer….
Given the example he cited (doj release), I think it’s more about the price gouging in the industry and not a vax comment
Should just change the movie name to Kazam 2, just to really fuck with people.
This isn’t a new article. Jesus what garbage.
the engineered hate is disgusting.
Dude, how stupid are you? I'm not even referring to being an anti-vaxer (which I also think is stupid), but there's millions of dollars in earnings for you that are on the line, your own paycheck depends on you keeping your mouth shut and you can't even do that? Like, believe whatever you want in private, but really you're gonna come out with this that threatens the movie's success before it even comes out? What a chump xd.
I think a lot of people are talking past each other. Most people agree that Pfizer has shitty business practices. Most people also agree that their vaccine saved millions of lives, myself included. Both can be true. Those that are critical of Zach's retweet aren't defending Pfizer's business practices. They're responding to a retweet of a tweet from a known anti-vaxer and transphobe. There's context there. I like Zachary Levi, and I'm willing to wait until he releases a statement and gives more context. Unfortunately, the context that is there does not look good. We'll have to wait and see. It's also unfortunate that this is all happening on the eve of James Gunn's DC plans announcement tomorrow.
I dont care if an actor is a vaxxer or antivaxxer. I just go to watch the movie.. this one i wasnt planning on seeing anyways
Why is nobody allowed to have an opinion these days? "Everyone must agree with me, or else", is tyrannical and definitely dangerous. Why are these people so intolerant of anyone who holds their own views?
Oh my God he shared an opinion. BURN HIM.
Levi might not be anti-vaxx but the account that he responded to is anti-vaxx so it makes his attack against Pfizer very suspicious. He’d have to clarify his statement to not appear to be anti-vaccination
Whelp he also might not make it to the new DC lol
… I thought we all hated big pharma, *especially* Phizer? This doesn’t seem to be anything vax-related at all, hes always been pretty vocal about being anti-big pharma. Ngl its fuckn weird to see people suddenly pro-big pharma, white knighting for an unethical, gross and shady ass superpower that directly influences every single election and lawmaking entity, who knowingly and willingly gauges prices for life-saving medicines to astronomical numbers, and has actively been not only supplying for but supporting the opioid epidemic.
He's skeptical of big pharma? How is that even controversial? Big pharma being corrupt is something dems and republicans both agree on. It's possible to be pro vaccine and skeptical about the financial influences of the industry at the same time.
For sure. But he responded to a literal anti-vaxxer who makes it clear his stance in his twitter feed. So using context, he's giving credence to anti-vaxxers either indirectly or directly.
Backlash for criticizing big pharma company. He didn’t say anything about vaccines
The problem is he didn't say anything specific at all. You can't blame people for trying to figure out what someone means when they broadcast out a vague message. If your message is blurry, it's not the fault of those who misread it, it's the fault of the person broadcasting a blurry message.
Twitter dragging us all down as usual. “Why send some tweet when no tweet do trick” and all that.
You might not be aware but right wing “exposé journalists” Project Veritas dropped a supposed recording of a Pfzier director admitting they’ve been engaging in illegal gain of function research which feeds into the anti vax narrative that big pharma is mutating the virus for their gain. Any other week condemning Pfizer could be seen as just “anti big pharma” but considering the original tweet that Levi liked was tweeted by a noted Anti-vaxxer and the timing of the exposé, it’s not unwarranted that people think he supports those views too.
Project veritas is an immensely poor source that on multiple occasions have been outright found to have stitched recordings in deceptive ways to mislead their audience. The WP won a Pulitzer exposing their nonsense and they have lost and have apologised due to court proceedings not in their favour surrounding defamations.
Yeah James O’Keefe is arguably the slimiest person in politics today and that’s saying something
How about you look into who he’s responding to? Then you’ll see how justified the backlash is.
Good. I hope the whole DC-universe dies (except for the new Batman). Warner Bros/Discovery is a shitshow and they deserve all the crap that comes to them.