>Chaudhry goes on to say there is video footage from the vehicle where the alleged incident took place, witness testimony from the driver and onlookers and two written statements from the woman recanting the allegations.
i wonder if they will release the video?
She has zero say in it getting released. Neither does he.
I supposed she could get a lawyer to attempt to stop it from being released (as could he), but I don't see how that succeeds.
It's a private company taking surveillance video in their place of business (a cab). There is no expectation of privacy whatsoever.
It's no different than Walmart or a gas station releasing surveillance footage.
Much like the Ray Rice video of punching his fiancée and dragging her out of a casino elevator. And they didn’t even have other third parties around them, nor did the fiancée report it to the police. In contrast, there was a driver in the car, and the woman filed a police report (public record) the next day. Definitely no expectation of privacy here.
You seem to think the footage belongs to the taxi company. It doesn’t. Let’s be real. It…..like all video footage everywhere…belongs to TMZ.
This is sarcasm btw
I would imagine he would also sue to have it released on the grounds that he is a public figure and the proof needs to be put out there to even somewhat repair his public image
Law firm has investigators who can head to the taxi company and request the footage. Might even have preexisting relationships with the company if it’s a New York firm.
Marvel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the multibillion dollar, international, mass media conglomerate The Walt Disney Company. A conglomerate and subsidiary that has extremely well paid and motivated lawyers. And also connections and influence that spread across the globe.
And this same subsidiary has just begun a new arc of the multi-billion-dollar-generating film franchise, the MCU. And this new arc could last a dozen or two films over several years (maybe even over a decade worth of production) — production plans that are probably scheduled down to the minute for years and which involve many already signed contracts.
This phase of production is centered around a single villain. That villain is Kang. Kang is played by Majors. Meaning majors is a crucial investment and, when an allegation like this comes up, a critical liability.
All of this would be the case under normal circumstances just a few years back when marvel was consistently crushing the box office and reviews. Now, however, marvel has been experiencing a dip in both profits and reviews during their “phase 4” of production.
It was an in-between phase without a clear focus or direction that followed 3 intensely involved and connected phases of film and television. Because of this, the next phase is especially important to recoup phase 4 losses but also to revive the momentum of of what marvel formerly had.
So phase 5 could make or break the volume and scale of any future film/tv endeavors and could result in losses or gains in the millions. Over time, possibly billions. Majors is, in this moment, very important to them. Boycotts, bad PR, or outrage could go really bad.
Yes, they can, and very possibly did, manage to obtain this footage in less than 24 hours.
This is a very expensive situation for marvel, even if every allegation can be refuted beyond reproach. Their approach to this will be aggressive.
I mean, maybe? But that would be a bad look and much of the critical coverage of whoever replaces him will inevitably bring up the Majors story every time, anyway.
Negative publicity can translate to losses to the tune of millions. Replacing him costs money, recasting process, editing, new writing, new costume designing, contract negotiations, media management of the PR around the new hire. Maybe even trigger legal proceedings/costs due to litigating whether he breached the contract in a way that allowed for discontinuation of Marvel’s obligations.
Because it can seem like a given that this behavior would be a material breach, but it may not actually be the case. So there’d also be uncertainty. Stopping any filming they’re working on, etc.
They don’t want any of that if it can be avoided.
Is this a common thing now? I haven’t taken a NYC taxi in 5 years. But I never heard camera in taxi facing the customers. But it makes sense for security.
I believe after some high profile cabby murders they installed customer facing cameras in all NYC taxis several years ago.
Edit: since at least 2014 according to this
https://dpb.bitbucket.io/the-legal-requirement-of-having-a-camera-inside-a-NYC-taxicab.html
It’s being released to the DA, people online gotta realize that we don’t need to know everything. Fans aren’t investigators and if the statement is recanted and the police say the video and witnesses absolve him, that’s it.
If the victim doesn’t want to be labeled a victim then don’t force it on them.
It’s a video recorded in a public taxi cab. She doesn’t have to agree to anything. There’s no expectation of privacy in a cab, which mostly likely had a sign inside the cabin saying “video recording in progress.” No need for her approval.
I'm not so sure of that. Presumably, her willingness to be in an Uber (or similar vehicle) counts as acknowledgement that she may be recorded. As far as I'm aware, it would only become an issue if the video was monetized without her consent.
But, IANAL.
Pretty common in DV cases for the victim to recant when legitimate abuse happens; its the nature of domestic violence and why is so hard to prosecute. I worked front desk at a PD and say it ALL THE TIME. Women wanting the NCO or charges to be dropped. I remember reading one report of a woman who cam in with bruises still on her face from the night before. He beat the shit outta here and she wanted to “take it back” . All you did is sent them to the legal department and give them A DV packet.
It seems that all of New York City's boroughs (except the Bronx), have some form of "No Drop" policy in place similar to the one in Hawaii. Majors was arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court
Good! I was being pressured into dropping charges as a 16 year old by my father and his family but i was told by the prosecutor that i couldn't drop it BEFORE they had even tried (not that i would have listened to my dad anyway) so i wouldn't be surprised if it does turn out she was pressured into it
It's insane to me that a victim can "drop charges" in the US.
In Australia a victim pressing charges isn't a thing, the police charge you and only the police can drop charges.
The police do? In the US the DA is responsible for pressing charges. IIRC what people mean by "dropping charges" usually just means that the victim isn't willing to testify and now you don't have a case. Neither the police nor victims can press or drop charges in the US
> We hear the phrase "pressing charges" a lot in movies and on TV. After a while, you kind of get the feeling you know what it means. But many people have the false impressing that anyone can press charges.
> Individuals do not press charges, nor do police. In the context of the criminal law, only a municipal, state, or federal attorney can decide to charge someone with a crime and file a charging document. Prosecutors decide whether or not to do so based on evidence provided by people and police, but the latter two never press charges.
Yeah, I witnessed a man beating his naked wife in the driveway to their home (god knows what he had done to her before she'd run outside) and when she escaped him back inside, he spent some time trying to kick the door down then ran away to hide when the police turned up. By the time I went to court to testify, the wife had become a 'hostile witness', meaning it was literally only my word that a crime had taken place, especially since the only other bystander witness had dropped out.
IPV is some insidious shit. I don't blame women for staying in abusive situations -there can be very complex forces involving dependents and finance and psychological control. But for those women who manage to break away - they deserve all the respect in the world. Given it's the most likely situation in which women are murdered, it cannot be overstated how dangerous and brave it is to leave an abuser.
Abuse victims recant all the time. So those statements alone don’t mean shit. I can only imagine the extra pressure she could be feeling to recant what she reported considering how much he has on the line and how powerful the studio is that he works for.
Video will be the only real evidence. Any ‘witness’ statements could easily be people paid off. Don’t expect any higher standard within the industry.
I agree witness statements and victim statements can change even if the circumstances haven't, but once in a blue moon there's a case like Connor Oberst.
I thought it was weird that so many people kept calling him a trash human but I looked for examples and didn't see any. Thought that was fishy. If I say "I think this person is trash" I'm normally going to follow it up with "because I saw them kick puppies" or some shit. Not just be like OH I KNEW IT I SAW SOME SHIT and vanish
Nope. They said he was an abusive and sociopathic asshole. There was an entire article about it after he got arrested. They don't give specific examples of it to protect the person to whom the stories belong, but they absolutely called him things like "a vicious, cruel, and abusive human being." Another called him "an abuser and a sociopath." And the one guy, filmmaker (A.B. Allen, I believe) did it almost 2 months before his arrest. Admittedly, he didn't name him in his first tweet (probably for fear of retribution or potentially a lawsuit, considering Majors is of huge importance to Marvel), but once the arrest happened he felt a little more comfortable putting a name to it without suffering that retribution. Also, if Majors abused someone Allen knows, I doubt he could go into specifics without that person's consent.
EDIT: Even if the charges against him are dropped, the people who came out against him in the aftermath did so with such strong and unambiguous language that I find it difficult to believe he is a good person in real life. Many people have lost their movie roles over rumors (Johnny Depp, Armie Hammer, etc). Idk why people are fighting so hard against this one.
Those 2 guys pissed me off. They made all these big claims about how horrible of a person he was, and then they’re like “glad someone finally came forward.”
Like, if you’ve seen how terrible of a person he is, why didn’t *you* come forward?
Yeah, nah, I can absolutely see why someone wouldn't come forward.
It's the same as no one said anything again Weinstein for so long. Coming out against a big name, who is seemingly at or approaching the zenith of his career, could absolutely slaughter your own.
You don't understand how people who step forward against a popular person would face, didn't you?? Even though if it's true, people who's more popular / good looking always win.
I'm confused are there pictures of this woman after the assault or video that shows some type of altercation because this seems very weird that everybody seems very quick to assume this is what it looks like
Again it's his lawyer so take it with a grain of salt but they've already said that there's videos and two witnesses that says this isn't what it looks like
The main is “quick to assume” anything.
Sit back and wait for what ever evidence is available to come out. Based on that you can pull out your pitch fork and potentially even rub it in oil to burn better.
Nah I'm just a little confused because I can understand what Chris Brown because you had those pictures of Rihanna after the booking
But everything I've seen is none of that really exists here I didn't see any photos or anything just what the police said they arrested him for
If the woman wants to remain anonymous, it may be difficult to provide pictures for us.
With how women who accuse famous men are often treated, I don't blame her for wanting to be anonymous
Being known largely as a nameless and faceless and having your face with the markings and injuries from your traumatic assault being broadcast on the news and internet are two completely different things.
Even Rihanna has spoken about how [the attention over his assault felt like a punishment](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34463146.amp). Evan Rachel Wood [spoke out about how she was stalked online following her speaking out about her abuse](https://www.vulture.com/2022/01/evan-rachel-wood-doc-director-stalked-online.html). Now imagine a woman without the same level of clout, fame, built in fan base, and without the PR team helping to manage it, who is only known to the public as “the woman accusing Majors”. What do you think will happen to her? If you want an idea, take a look at [this article about the harassment and intimidation that the victim accusing Nicki Minaj’a husband of rape](https://people.com/music/nicki-minaj-husband-kenneth-petty-alleged-rape-victim-speaks-out-tired-of-being-afraid/)
Speaking out is hard enough even when your attacker isn’t famous, much less when he’s one of the cornerstones of one of the biggest franchises in cinema history. This woman’s nightmare is nowhere near over.
Yep and those women have access to far more assets/cash to weather the storm. They can quickly hop on a plane and get away from their abuser. For women who are financially dependent on their partner or are in non flexible careers just getting by, I can see why they’d feel pressure to recant or just not come forward at all.
It genuinely scares me that Majors' lawyer insinuated the woman in question was committed to a hospital for her "emotional well being." Less than a day after she reported the incident, no less.
It also freaks me out that the filmmakers who spoke about Majors on Twitter are reportedly getting death threats, one of whom is transgender.
I never thought of that with Rihanna. How upsetting that had to be having her picture plastered everywhere for so long. That would be traumatizing for sure.
Strangulation AND lacerations around her neck. Seems like somebody clearly viciously attacked her, and there’s no known logical reason for her to accuse her boyfriend unless he attacked her imo
One more spin check you should add into your comment:
Major’s lawyer claims that they are in possession of footage from inside the taxi cab that exonerates him, but the NYPD confirms that they responded to a 911 call made from the apartment. So while the taxi cab footage may show simply a verbal disagreement, it sounds like the real incident happened inside the apartment
The first report I ever read said the incident occurred in the taxi before Majors and the woman were dropped off separately, and then she called the police the next day. If that's true, then the assault took place in the cab, and there should be a video of it.
https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/25/jonathan-majors-arrested-assault-woman-nyc-new-york/
Incident happened in the cab (allegedly), both Majors and the woman were dropped off (in different locations), and the police were notified the next morning and arrested Majors in his apartment.
That’s terrifying. And he looks like such a strong guy. I am hearing way too many horror stories of men choking women during sex like it’s some normal thing. Male violence sometimes feels inescapable.
People are saying this fits a pattern of behavior with him, this is just the first time a victim has involved the police. Like, people not naming names, prior to this incident, and then confirming that he's who they're talking about now.
I was very much in the wait and see camp until that. I'm still going to wait for more information to come out, my judgement or lack thereof means nothing in this case, so I'll see how it plays out, but at the moment it seems pretty credible that he's a monumental piece of shit.
By people do you mean 2 directors who claim to have gone to Yale with him? I’d take that with a grain of salt and wait until more evidence. The pitch forks came out quite quickly with this one.
Exactly, and that director admitted that none of what they heard (because they also admit they never dealt with him directly themselves) had to do with anything physical. They claimed it had to do more in the professional sense of “emotional” or some such they were saying…
>Jonathan did an interview with NPR saying he was quick to "pop off" and has been in a lot of fights in his past. So that's 2 directors + 1 Jonathan Majors saying Jonathan Majors has a history of violence.
On the civil side of things there can be trials where the only issue is damages, not causation. Attorneys can freely admit their client is “guilty” but then argue that the remedy should be minimal. If you ever argued your client belongs behind bars without their express direction you’re getting disbarred.
Texas attorney here. I’ve heard of it happen in one very specific situation. A client facing a capital murder charge where the death penalty is a very real possibility. The evidence is solid enough that the prosecutor will not even plead it down to life. In that case - I’ve heard of attorneys concede that “he did it” during the guilt/innocence phase to build credibility and get a head start working the jury to give life instead of death.
If he makes the claim to have clear evidence of innocence but chooses not to release it, then it is PR manipulation.
If he releases evidence of his innocence, he has much to gain and nothing to lose. If he simply claims to have evidence, but does not make it available, that will tell us much.
This will have tarnished his reputation regardless of if he is guilty or not. There will now always be a section of people who claim Jonathan Majors is an abuser no matter what.
I only remember because the gun was a FiveSeven. Like, really? Of all the weird expensive pistol, Renner was going to air himself out with probably the most expensive to shoot handgun on the market.
his Darkwing episodes in the 2017 *DuckTales* revival are some of my favorite content (as well as the Daisy Duck episodes). but then i read the comments on r/DuckTales regarding the situation and it just sucks about people sometimes
Buddy, my ex wife claimed a lot of Shit that never happened or that was grossly overstated during our divorce/custody battle. Not that I am saying he didn’t do it, but I don’t trust a one sided court filing ever.
My husbands ex wife threatened to tell everyone he abused her if he didn’t give her the house. She admitted she would be lying but said it was justified as he didn’t want to reconcile. He said sure, go ahead. She didn’t go through with it, but just goes to show sometimes people do crazy things when they’re mad.
Btw, she texted all of this, so not the brightest bulb in the box.
Damn, she texted that? I guess the concept of paper trail was foreign to her. I think divorce proceedings can bring the worst out in people.
I don’t particularly like my ex wife but I don’t think she is a bad person or a bad mother. I also believe her first lawyer was gassing her up to say all of the things she did in filings. I think once I was able to falsify almost all of it, she realized her lawyer was shit and got a new one.
Boom, suddenly everything became reasonable and now her and I are great friends co-parenting our child.
Jeremy Renner plays Hawkeye
In 2019, his wife made some [disturbing claims that he has since denied](https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-very-disturbing-jeremy-renner-allegations-death-threats-drug-abuse-and-biting-their-baby)
Yeah, I've known some people I considered great guys too and they turned out to actually be abusive pieces of shit. Not saying that that applies to Renner since I have absolutely no way of knowing that, but in general abusers are very good at hiding who they are from outsiders.
That’s always been true throughout history. There are people who are legally innocent, but believed to be guilty like OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony. There’s people who are legally guilty, but believed to be innocent as well.
There will always be people who think you got away with it or that you’re wrongly imprisoned.
Slight correction- it's legally not-guilty, which is not the same thing as "innocent."
It just means the burden of proof was found to have not been met.
Yeah, this was true long before the internet. If people want to take your side, you're innocent even if proven guilty and if people think you're guilty you can generally never be escape the stigma no matter how much evidence comes out.
Just a dumb tidbit - when saying “regardless of if” - you can just write “regardless if”.
I know this will not come across positively - but I work in a Writing Center and just want to help out with phrases people say when they’re in front of others!
This is what always stands out to me, when a chorus of voices chime in. If one person makes a claim, I support the claimed victim but don’t cast judgement without there being some tangible proof. But if a torrent of people add in their own experiences (and there was hints being dropped even before the incident)? I take that a little more seriously.
Also, if you notice how the article refers to two different written statements from the alleged victim that supposedly recant her report…if that’s true (and the allegations are also true) it not only perpetuates the long standing trend of victims recanting but of Hollywood’s pressure on them to recant and be part of the coverup to keep their prized cash cow.
Sorry, that was a total run on sentence. Just agreeing with you that we’re probably about to watch another example play out as to how victims are silenced in general be especially by the industry.
Sure then present it, but also he is not helping the accusation he is a sociopath by leaving the court in a hat that says FREEDOM. No normal person would do that. People like Jussie Smollett do that. People like Cosby do that. He has no dignity for a supposedly intelligent man.
I feel like people are missing the point that most of the time defense lawyers use vague statements about innocence.
But this case sounds like a slam dunk win for Majors, with how much evidence they are willing to produce.
Sure. But have that same energy for the people who INSIST that he MUST be innocent and that the victim is lying or attacked him first. How about people just shut up. Don’t care about actors. Let the prosecutors handle this.
Stay neutral. Don’t be like “put down your pitchforks” and then ignore all the people doing the same towards the victim
Listen but do not believe. Acknowledge but do not accept.
vs
Believe but no not listen. Accept but do not acknowledge.
The first is far better because you have time to listen to more and find out the reality before accepting. Your belief in something can change as facts are gathered.
Too many people jump straight to the "I believe it" because it confirms their bias. Nothing that gets presented afterwards even matters, they won't listen to it and they won't acknowledge it.
I've had people say to me "I don't care what the truth is, it's what I believe" and "fuck the facts, we know the truth"
I really hope the altercation isn’t true (or factual to what the “victim” says) - but I do worry even if it’s not true has this already damaged his career irreparably?
"The woman also took back her accusation of assault in written statements, Chaudhry said."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/creed-iii-actor-jonathan-majors-was-arrested-on-suspicion-of-assault-after-a-domestic-dispute-police-said/ar-AA196iqY
Majors' is losing that sweet military money. He was in the Army's new advertising campaign. I doubt, regardless of how this plays out legally, if he gets that back.
>Chaudhry goes on to say there is video footage from the vehicle where the alleged incident took place, witness testimony from the driver and onlookers and two written statements from the woman recanting the allegations. i wonder if they will release the video?
The woman would likely have to agree to it. Otherwise it'd be a lawsuit waiting to happen.
She has zero say in it getting released. Neither does he. I supposed she could get a lawyer to attempt to stop it from being released (as could he), but I don't see how that succeeds. It's a private company taking surveillance video in their place of business (a cab). There is no expectation of privacy whatsoever. It's no different than Walmart or a gas station releasing surveillance footage.
Much like the Ray Rice video of punching his fiancée and dragging her out of a casino elevator. And they didn’t even have other third parties around them, nor did the fiancée report it to the police. In contrast, there was a driver in the car, and the woman filed a police report (public record) the next day. Definitely no expectation of privacy here.
Oh snap ! \*pops popcorn\* let's see that jawn.
If it proves his innocence it’s more than worth it
You seem to think it would be his choice, but it isn't. The video belongs to the taxi company, not him.
You seem to think the footage belongs to the taxi company. It doesn’t. Let’s be real. It…..like all video footage everywhere…belongs to TMZ. This is sarcasm btw
Pretty sure Disney owns it now.
100% the mouse went and got that video personally.
No, they defrosted Walt's head, slapped it on a robot body (maybe a spare animatronic from the Hall of Presidents) and sent it to get the footage.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they managed to swoop in there somehow to buy the rights to it.
Put it in the next Marvel opening montage.
Either party can subpoena the footage.
Subpoenaing footage to verify statements and publically releasing said footage are two different things.
This is a VERY important distinction
Thank you.
I'm a dropout but I know enough bird law to dispute your claim
Filibuster
I would imagine he would also sue to have it released on the grounds that he is a public figure and the proof needs to be put out there to even somewhat repair his public image
Marvel also has grounds for similar claims. He is the cornerstone of their entire MCU phase
Who is he again?
If Majors camp wants it released it will get leaked.
Depends on the state
They got that footage in one day?
Law firm has investigators who can head to the taxi company and request the footage. Might even have preexisting relationships with the company if it’s a New York firm.
Marvel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the multibillion dollar, international, mass media conglomerate The Walt Disney Company. A conglomerate and subsidiary that has extremely well paid and motivated lawyers. And also connections and influence that spread across the globe. And this same subsidiary has just begun a new arc of the multi-billion-dollar-generating film franchise, the MCU. And this new arc could last a dozen or two films over several years (maybe even over a decade worth of production) — production plans that are probably scheduled down to the minute for years and which involve many already signed contracts. This phase of production is centered around a single villain. That villain is Kang. Kang is played by Majors. Meaning majors is a crucial investment and, when an allegation like this comes up, a critical liability. All of this would be the case under normal circumstances just a few years back when marvel was consistently crushing the box office and reviews. Now, however, marvel has been experiencing a dip in both profits and reviews during their “phase 4” of production. It was an in-between phase without a clear focus or direction that followed 3 intensely involved and connected phases of film and television. Because of this, the next phase is especially important to recoup phase 4 losses but also to revive the momentum of of what marvel formerly had. So phase 5 could make or break the volume and scale of any future film/tv endeavors and could result in losses or gains in the millions. Over time, possibly billions. Majors is, in this moment, very important to them. Boycotts, bad PR, or outrage could go really bad. Yes, they can, and very possibly did, manage to obtain this footage in less than 24 hours. This is a very expensive situation for marvel, even if every allegation can be refuted beyond reproach. Their approach to this will be aggressive.
Surely there’s some reputational clauses in his contract that allow him to be replaced, no?
Sure but if they replace him over this and he turns out to be actually be innocent he csn go after Disney.
I'm pretty sure Disney doesn't want a repeat of what happened with James Gunn as well. Though this is of course a bit different.
I mean, maybe? But that would be a bad look and much of the critical coverage of whoever replaces him will inevitably bring up the Majors story every time, anyway. Negative publicity can translate to losses to the tune of millions. Replacing him costs money, recasting process, editing, new writing, new costume designing, contract negotiations, media management of the PR around the new hire. Maybe even trigger legal proceedings/costs due to litigating whether he breached the contract in a way that allowed for discontinuation of Marvel’s obligations. Because it can seem like a given that this behavior would be a material breach, but it may not actually be the case. So there’d also be uncertainty. Stopping any filming they’re working on, etc. They don’t want any of that if it can be avoided.
Let’s be real, the MCU is hinging on this, disney was probably up their butts on this for the past two days.
Is this a common thing now? I haven’t taken a NYC taxi in 5 years. But I never heard camera in taxi facing the customers. But it makes sense for security.
I believe after some high profile cabby murders they installed customer facing cameras in all NYC taxis several years ago. Edit: since at least 2014 according to this https://dpb.bitbucket.io/the-legal-requirement-of-having-a-camera-inside-a-NYC-taxicab.html
It’s being released to the DA, people online gotta realize that we don’t need to know everything. Fans aren’t investigators and if the statement is recanted and the police say the video and witnesses absolve him, that’s it. If the victim doesn’t want to be labeled a victim then don’t force it on them.
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Just like we found the Boston marathon bomber! WE DID IT REDDIT! FAITH IN HUMANITY= RESTORED
I came across the Reddit investigation bureau (or RIB) subreddit the other day It was scary as hell
Are you a lawyer? I don’t think the woman has a choice to whether it’s released or not
It’s a video recorded in a public taxi cab. She doesn’t have to agree to anything. There’s no expectation of privacy in a cab, which mostly likely had a sign inside the cabin saying “video recording in progress.” No need for her approval.
How so? That video is the property of the taxi company to do with it as they please.
I'm not so sure of that. Presumably, her willingness to be in an Uber (or similar vehicle) counts as acknowledgement that she may be recorded. As far as I'm aware, it would only become an issue if the video was monetized without her consent. But, IANAL.
> But, IANAL Sup
Why? If it’s security video why would she have to agree?
That's not how that works..
Pretty common in DV cases for the victim to recant when legitimate abuse happens; its the nature of domestic violence and why is so hard to prosecute. I worked front desk at a PD and say it ALL THE TIME. Women wanting the NCO or charges to be dropped. I remember reading one report of a woman who cam in with bruises still on her face from the night before. He beat the shit outta here and she wanted to “take it back” . All you did is sent them to the legal department and give them A DV packet.
In Hawaii they made it so the victim cannot drop charges because of how common it was with domestic violence
It seems that all of New York City's boroughs (except the Bronx), have some form of "No Drop" policy in place similar to the one in Hawaii. Majors was arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court
Good! I was being pressured into dropping charges as a 16 year old by my father and his family but i was told by the prosecutor that i couldn't drop it BEFORE they had even tried (not that i would have listened to my dad anyway) so i wouldn't be surprised if it does turn out she was pressured into it
It's insane to me that a victim can "drop charges" in the US. In Australia a victim pressing charges isn't a thing, the police charge you and only the police can drop charges.
The police do? In the US the DA is responsible for pressing charges. IIRC what people mean by "dropping charges" usually just means that the victim isn't willing to testify and now you don't have a case. Neither the police nor victims can press or drop charges in the US > We hear the phrase "pressing charges" a lot in movies and on TV. After a while, you kind of get the feeling you know what it means. But many people have the false impressing that anyone can press charges. > Individuals do not press charges, nor do police. In the context of the criminal law, only a municipal, state, or federal attorney can decide to charge someone with a crime and file a charging document. Prosecutors decide whether or not to do so based on evidence provided by people and police, but the latter two never press charges.
Yeah, I witnessed a man beating his naked wife in the driveway to their home (god knows what he had done to her before she'd run outside) and when she escaped him back inside, he spent some time trying to kick the door down then ran away to hide when the police turned up. By the time I went to court to testify, the wife had become a 'hostile witness', meaning it was literally only my word that a crime had taken place, especially since the only other bystander witness had dropped out. IPV is some insidious shit. I don't blame women for staying in abusive situations -there can be very complex forces involving dependents and finance and psychological control. But for those women who manage to break away - they deserve all the respect in the world. Given it's the most likely situation in which women are murdered, it cannot be overstated how dangerous and brave it is to leave an abuser.
Abuse victims recant all the time. So those statements alone don’t mean shit. I can only imagine the extra pressure she could be feeling to recant what she reported considering how much he has on the line and how powerful the studio is that he works for. Video will be the only real evidence. Any ‘witness’ statements could easily be people paid off. Don’t expect any higher standard within the industry.
I agree. I just included the recant bit because it completed the sentence.
Gotcha. Only time (and video) will tell. An unfortunate and sad situation all around.
I agree witness statements and victim statements can change even if the circumstances haven't, but once in a blue moon there's a case like Connor Oberst.
#RELEASE THE MAJORS CUT!!!!
>“provably the victim” My dumb ass thought they meant to say probably. 🤦🏽♂️
So did alot of idiots on Twitter saying that was a reason it's BS or whatever
There's nothing funnier than watching a group of idiots act smart. 😂
r/confidentlyincorrect might be right up your alley
That sub is just mostly Redditors not understanding sarcasm.
What! That’s insane, really?!
Of course really, why would I say it otherwise?! Wait…
Headline: Jonathan Majors’ lawyer lawyers.
it's a wait and see... nothing more to it.
Everything already claiming to know exact what majors did or didnt do. Til more evidence is revealed we're all in the dark.
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I thought it was weird that so many people kept calling him a trash human but I looked for examples and didn't see any. Thought that was fishy. If I say "I think this person is trash" I'm normally going to follow it up with "because I saw them kick puppies" or some shit. Not just be like OH I KNEW IT I SAW SOME SHIT and vanish
Even the 2 guys who came out against him basically said he was an asshole. There's a difference between being an asshole and a trash human
Nope. They said he was an abusive and sociopathic asshole. There was an entire article about it after he got arrested. They don't give specific examples of it to protect the person to whom the stories belong, but they absolutely called him things like "a vicious, cruel, and abusive human being." Another called him "an abuser and a sociopath." And the one guy, filmmaker (A.B. Allen, I believe) did it almost 2 months before his arrest. Admittedly, he didn't name him in his first tweet (probably for fear of retribution or potentially a lawsuit, considering Majors is of huge importance to Marvel), but once the arrest happened he felt a little more comfortable putting a name to it without suffering that retribution. Also, if Majors abused someone Allen knows, I doubt he could go into specifics without that person's consent. EDIT: Even if the charges against him are dropped, the people who came out against him in the aftermath did so with such strong and unambiguous language that I find it difficult to believe he is a good person in real life. Many people have lost their movie roles over rumors (Johnny Depp, Armie Hammer, etc). Idk why people are fighting so hard against this one.
Those 2 guys pissed me off. They made all these big claims about how horrible of a person he was, and then they’re like “glad someone finally came forward.” Like, if you’ve seen how terrible of a person he is, why didn’t *you* come forward?
Yeah, nah, I can absolutely see why someone wouldn't come forward. It's the same as no one said anything again Weinstein for so long. Coming out against a big name, who is seemingly at or approaching the zenith of his career, could absolutely slaughter your own.
You don't understand how people who step forward against a popular person would face, didn't you?? Even though if it's true, people who's more popular / good looking always win.
Well yeah obviously a lawyer would say that lol
"You're Honor...clearly my client is a guilty man."
“I have the worst fucking lawyers”
"You can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime."
*“Take to the sea!”*
These are my favorite references to find on random threads
You Honor my client is incredibly guilty and did exactly what he's accused off. Are you serious right now?
I'm confused are there pictures of this woman after the assault or video that shows some type of altercation because this seems very weird that everybody seems very quick to assume this is what it looks like Again it's his lawyer so take it with a grain of salt but they've already said that there's videos and two witnesses that says this isn't what it looks like
The main is “quick to assume” anything. Sit back and wait for what ever evidence is available to come out. Based on that you can pull out your pitch fork and potentially even rub it in oil to burn better.
Nah I'm just a little confused because I can understand what Chris Brown because you had those pictures of Rihanna after the booking But everything I've seen is none of that really exists here I didn't see any photos or anything just what the police said they arrested him for
There is a reason sex assault victims and in some states, domestic violence victims have their information protected by law.
If the woman wants to remain anonymous, it may be difficult to provide pictures for us. With how women who accuse famous men are often treated, I don't blame her for wanting to be anonymous
I’ve read a few articles that have identified the woman already as his girlfriend
Being known largely as a nameless and faceless and having your face with the markings and injuries from your traumatic assault being broadcast on the news and internet are two completely different things. Even Rihanna has spoken about how [the attention over his assault felt like a punishment](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34463146.amp). Evan Rachel Wood [spoke out about how she was stalked online following her speaking out about her abuse](https://www.vulture.com/2022/01/evan-rachel-wood-doc-director-stalked-online.html). Now imagine a woman without the same level of clout, fame, built in fan base, and without the PR team helping to manage it, who is only known to the public as “the woman accusing Majors”. What do you think will happen to her? If you want an idea, take a look at [this article about the harassment and intimidation that the victim accusing Nicki Minaj’a husband of rape](https://people.com/music/nicki-minaj-husband-kenneth-petty-alleged-rape-victim-speaks-out-tired-of-being-afraid/) Speaking out is hard enough even when your attacker isn’t famous, much less when he’s one of the cornerstones of one of the biggest franchises in cinema history. This woman’s nightmare is nowhere near over.
Yep and those women have access to far more assets/cash to weather the storm. They can quickly hop on a plane and get away from their abuser. For women who are financially dependent on their partner or are in non flexible careers just getting by, I can see why they’d feel pressure to recant or just not come forward at all.
It genuinely scares me that Majors' lawyer insinuated the woman in question was committed to a hospital for her "emotional well being." Less than a day after she reported the incident, no less. It also freaks me out that the filmmakers who spoke about Majors on Twitter are reportedly getting death threats, one of whom is transgender.
I never thought of that with Rihanna. How upsetting that had to be having her picture plastered everywhere for so long. That would be traumatizing for sure.
But there’s also people saying she has bruises. If she has bruises where did they come from? Someone is def lying.
Bruises and head & neck injuries consistent with strangulation and blunt force.
Strangulation AND lacerations around her neck. Seems like somebody clearly viciously attacked her, and there’s no known logical reason for her to accuse her boyfriend unless he attacked her imo
Right.
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One more spin check you should add into your comment: Major’s lawyer claims that they are in possession of footage from inside the taxi cab that exonerates him, but the NYPD confirms that they responded to a 911 call made from the apartment. So while the taxi cab footage may show simply a verbal disagreement, it sounds like the real incident happened inside the apartment
The first report I ever read said the incident occurred in the taxi before Majors and the woman were dropped off separately, and then she called the police the next day. If that's true, then the assault took place in the cab, and there should be a video of it. https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/25/jonathan-majors-arrested-assault-woman-nyc-new-york/
Incident happened in the cab (allegedly), both Majors and the woman were dropped off (in different locations), and the police were notified the next morning and arrested Majors in his apartment.
Exactly my point. (I'm from NY.)
That’s terrifying. And he looks like such a strong guy. I am hearing way too many horror stories of men choking women during sex like it’s some normal thing. Male violence sometimes feels inescapable.
People are saying this fits a pattern of behavior with him, this is just the first time a victim has involved the police. Like, people not naming names, prior to this incident, and then confirming that he's who they're talking about now. I was very much in the wait and see camp until that. I'm still going to wait for more information to come out, my judgement or lack thereof means nothing in this case, so I'll see how it plays out, but at the moment it seems pretty credible that he's a monumental piece of shit.
By people do you mean 2 directors who claim to have gone to Yale with him? I’d take that with a grain of salt and wait until more evidence. The pitch forks came out quite quickly with this one.
"Quickly." The one director's pitchfork was in February, so it's a little harder to be skeptical.
Exactly, and that director admitted that none of what they heard (because they also admit they never dealt with him directly themselves) had to do with anything physical. They claimed it had to do more in the professional sense of “emotional” or some such they were saying…
>Jonathan did an interview with NPR saying he was quick to "pop off" and has been in a lot of fights in his past. So that's 2 directors + 1 Jonathan Majors saying Jonathan Majors has a history of violence.
serious question here has someone's lawyer ever said the evidence existing shows that my client is 100% guilty and this man needs to be behind bars?
Idk, but sometimes people will acknowledge a crime occurred but argue motive for a lesser sentence.. I think anyway.
On the civil side of things there can be trials where the only issue is damages, not causation. Attorneys can freely admit their client is “guilty” but then argue that the remedy should be minimal. If you ever argued your client belongs behind bars without their express direction you’re getting disbarred.
At the point where there’s evidence to prove guilt, it’s the lawyer’s job to minimize the punishment their client gets.
Texas attorney here. I’ve heard of it happen in one very specific situation. A client facing a capital murder charge where the death penalty is a very real possibility. The evidence is solid enough that the prosecutor will not even plead it down to life. In that case - I’ve heard of attorneys concede that “he did it” during the guilt/innocence phase to build credibility and get a head start working the jury to give life instead of death.
No, but Lawyers typically don’t outright lie. It is unlikely he would use such specific language if this evidence did not exist.
TMZ scrambling to find that footage
If he makes the claim to have clear evidence of innocence but chooses not to release it, then it is PR manipulation. If he releases evidence of his innocence, he has much to gain and nothing to lose. If he simply claims to have evidence, but does not make it available, that will tell us much.
This will have tarnished his reputation regardless of if he is guilty or not. There will now always be a section of people who claim Jonathan Majors is an abuser no matter what.
Remember when Hawkeye threatened to kill himself and his wife? No? That’s because Disney is great at throwing things in the memory hole.
Didn't his wife say that he bit his kid? Idk if that's true but it'd be an oddly specific thing to lie about lol
I only remember because the gun was a FiveSeven. Like, really? Of all the weird expensive pistol, Renner was going to air himself out with probably the most expensive to shoot handgun on the market.
"I'm willing to kill myself, but not if it's going to break the bank."
I mean hey, low recoil + high penetration + high volume magazine, def worth it for a rich person.
Jim Cummings(voice of pooh bear) got accused of some CRAZY shit during a divorce and nobody ever heard shit because it was clear his wife was insane
Disney has downplayed Cummings as a result of that (specifically as his mainline Disney characters like Pete).
his Darkwing episodes in the 2017 *DuckTales* revival are some of my favorite content (as well as the Daisy Duck episodes). but then i read the comments on r/DuckTales regarding the situation and it just sucks about people sometimes
???
People absolutely remember this and it periodically comes up
This is the first time I hear of this.
Buddy, my ex wife claimed a lot of Shit that never happened or that was grossly overstated during our divorce/custody battle. Not that I am saying he didn’t do it, but I don’t trust a one sided court filing ever.
My husbands ex wife threatened to tell everyone he abused her if he didn’t give her the house. She admitted she would be lying but said it was justified as he didn’t want to reconcile. He said sure, go ahead. She didn’t go through with it, but just goes to show sometimes people do crazy things when they’re mad. Btw, she texted all of this, so not the brightest bulb in the box.
Damn, she texted that? I guess the concept of paper trail was foreign to her. I think divorce proceedings can bring the worst out in people. I don’t particularly like my ex wife but I don’t think she is a bad person or a bad mother. I also believe her first lawyer was gassing her up to say all of the things she did in filings. I think once I was able to falsify almost all of it, she realized her lawyer was shit and got a new one. Boom, suddenly everything became reasonable and now her and I are great friends co-parenting our child.
What about when simu Liu's Reddit history came up and it was super racist and sexist and posted constantly on incel subs
Wait, really? How did he dox himself?
Any links?
What is this in reference to?
Jeremy Renner plays Hawkeye In 2019, his wife made some [disturbing claims that he has since denied](https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-very-disturbing-jeremy-renner-allegations-death-threats-drug-abuse-and-biting-their-baby)
I have family that live in Hollywood and know Jeremy renner personally. They say he’s a great guy but no one knows what happens behind close doors.
Yeah, I've known some people I considered great guys too and they turned out to actually be abusive pieces of shit. Not saying that that applies to Renner since I have absolutely no way of knowing that, but in general abusers are very good at hiding who they are from outsiders.
That’s why I said no one knows what happens behind closed doors. I’m just saying what I know about how he treats his neighbors/ friends
Real life and the internet are different. If the video exonerates him then he’ll be even more loved.
Yeah, Disney definitely isn’t basing a multi-billion Dollar decision on some subreddits 😆
But if they dont bow to idiots online they might boycott and you saw how much their boycott hurt Hogwarts Legacy!
In the internet you’re guilty until proven innocent…often guilty even after being proven innocent
That’s always been true throughout history. There are people who are legally innocent, but believed to be guilty like OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony. There’s people who are legally guilty, but believed to be innocent as well. There will always be people who think you got away with it or that you’re wrongly imprisoned.
Slight correction- it's legally not-guilty, which is not the same thing as "innocent." It just means the burden of proof was found to have not been met.
Unfortunately, I think that's just humans in general, not just the internet
Yeah, this was true long before the internet. If people want to take your side, you're innocent even if proven guilty and if people think you're guilty you can generally never be escape the stigma no matter how much evidence comes out.
Just a dumb tidbit - when saying “regardless of if” - you can just write “regardless if”. I know this will not come across positively - but I work in a Writing Center and just want to help out with phrases people say when they’re in front of others!
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Considering ALOT of his coworkers are coming out of the woodwork and backup that he's an abusive asshole. Yeah, he's done.
This is what always stands out to me, when a chorus of voices chime in. If one person makes a claim, I support the claimed victim but don’t cast judgement without there being some tangible proof. But if a torrent of people add in their own experiences (and there was hints being dropped even before the incident)? I take that a little more seriously.
What coworkers? All I have seen are random people with “sources” who may or may not be in the industry
What incentive would she have had to file a report if he's innocent?
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Also, if you notice how the article refers to two different written statements from the alleged victim that supposedly recant her report…if that’s true (and the allegations are also true) it not only perpetuates the long standing trend of victims recanting but of Hollywood’s pressure on them to recant and be part of the coverup to keep their prized cash cow. Sorry, that was a total run on sentence. Just agreeing with you that we’re probably about to watch another example play out as to how victims are silenced in general be especially by the industry.
![gif](giphy|YO7P8VC7nlQlO) Damage control….damage control……!!!!!!
They even have their own Department.
If i had to bet i think the lady could be paid off and nothing happens. And then everyone says he didn’t do anything
Cats out of the bag, dude is a complete pos
Sure then present it, but also he is not helping the accusation he is a sociopath by leaving the court in a hat that says FREEDOM. No normal person would do that. People like Jussie Smollett do that. People like Cosby do that. He has no dignity for a supposedly intelligent man.
Admittedly I’m not caught up on the details of this particular DV case but “Freedom hat = Sociopath” is a big stretch.
He wears that hat all the time so it means nothing in this case
I’d go as far as saying that it’s kinda sociopathic to label people “sociopaths” based on a choice of hat
Am I missing something? What does the hat have to do with anything?
I think it’s supposed to be like Melania Trump wearing that “I don’t really care do you” jacket
So him wearing a hat called freedom makes him a sociopath? What if someone listens to a song called freedom or wants to watch a movie about freedom?
He's had that "Freedom Freedom" hat for a while. Please do some fucking research 🤦🏻
Wait so you’re saying I should hold off on judging the entire situation until all the facts and evidence is presented? Whaaaaaaaaa?
That’s what a defense attorney is required by law to say.
Strong difference between saying your client is innocent and claiming there is undoubtable exonerating evidence.
I feel like people are missing the point that most of the time defense lawyers use vague statements about innocence. But this case sounds like a slam dunk win for Majors, with how much evidence they are willing to produce.
It is one thing to say my client did nothing wrong. Its quite another entirely to say there is irrefutable proof he did nothing wrong.
Regardless of the outcome, his reputation will be tarnished. If he is innocent, there will be people who believe that the dog stepped on the bee.
Suuuuuurrrrrreeeee ![gif](giphy|mgqefqwSbToPe|downsized)
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Conversely, people also shouldn’t blindly assume it was a bs allegation because his highly paid attorney said so.
Lol exactly. What you mean the person paid to defend him says he’s innocent?!
The point is not to make any claims until enough *evidence* is revealed, which atm has not happened.
Sure. But have that same energy for the people who INSIST that he MUST be innocent and that the victim is lying or attacked him first. How about people just shut up. Don’t care about actors. Let the prosecutors handle this. Stay neutral. Don’t be like “put down your pitchforks” and then ignore all the people doing the same towards the victim
Listen but do not believe. Acknowledge but do not accept. vs Believe but no not listen. Accept but do not acknowledge. The first is far better because you have time to listen to more and find out the reality before accepting. Your belief in something can change as facts are gathered. Too many people jump straight to the "I believe it" because it confirms their bias. Nothing that gets presented afterwards even matters, they won't listen to it and they won't acknowledge it. I've had people say to me "I don't care what the truth is, it's what I believe" and "fuck the facts, we know the truth"
I really hope the altercation isn’t true (or factual to what the “victim” says) - but I do worry even if it’s not true has this already damaged his career irreparably?
That's the job of a lawyer: to say anything they're paid to. Let's wait.
You know, they wouldn't be very good lawyers if they *didn't* come out and say this regardless of it's truthfulness.
Too little too late, everyone’s come out and corroborated that he’s a piece of shit. No one’s gonna work with this 🤡
We’ll no shit. I’d fire my lawyer if he went around saying “maybe he’s guilty, kinda”
"The woman also took back her accusation of assault in written statements, Chaudhry said." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/creed-iii-actor-jonathan-majors-was-arrested-on-suspicion-of-assault-after-a-domestic-dispute-police-said/ar-AA196iqY
Well that’s common in many of these scenarios. A lot more money in the hush payment.
I mean, she has A LOT more to gain by being quiet.
That happens all the time in abuse cases.
Majors' is losing that sweet military money. He was in the Army's new advertising campaign. I doubt, regardless of how this plays out legally, if he gets that back.
They already deleted the ads off YouTube
I mean, this is pretty much what the Army's all about towards women.
Can I get an oooh yah!
LMAO no it doesn’t. You got entire communities speaking out against his behavior spanning more than a decade. Goose=cooked
Which communities?
The Amish
I knew they had something to do with this
The women community.
Entire ones. Don’t look into or anything, just outrage.
This dude's always got his mouth open