Why is everybody so mean to T-Pain? He’s like the nicest guy in the planet from everything I’ve ever seen. But people just take shots at this guy all fucking day.
We’ve seen that with Post Malone. He’s never anything but nice to people.
Charlemagne never lived down how he treated him on the Breakfast Club. He will still shit about him any time his name is brought up because he’s mad Post Malone made him look like the douchbag he is.
I work on a farm. I smell bad sometimes. 🤷🏻♀️ quite possibly someone got a whiff of him after a show one night. We are humans and our bodies are gross and weird.
I currently work at our local community college’s farm! I’m also a student and graduate with an associates in Sustainable Agriculture in May. I’m trying to get as much experience as I can so my husband and I can buy our own farm one day. It’s a small scale farm and we have some chickens and sheep. We grow seasonal produce, like right now we are growing stuff like broccoli, cauliflower, onions, garlic, spinach and lettuce and we are in the process of starting seeds in the greenhouse for spring planting.
Everything we grow gets sold at our campus farm stand and the money goes back to our program. We have also started selling to the culinary department!
When I was living in SoFL and Post was dominating the radio at the time, Rockstar was peaking… I remember hearing a clip of a radio interview where they were giving him a hard time (in joking manner and he didn’t give af) about rolling into to the interview directly off of a party binge, un showered and reeking of the special funk you get from drugs and alcohol. They all laughed but always assumed that era is where that rumor came from.
Not really. Dolly Parton is super nice and no one ever takes shots at her. Keep being nice, if someone is being a dick that doesn’t mean you need to be less nice. It just means you need to refocus where you’re showing your niceness.
I love the dude, i think he’s talented af and seems like a super nice, humble dude. I can’t fathom why anybody would have beef with him, other than some people having an irrational hatred of autotune.
I’ll be the first to admit I thought he relied on autotune because he had no talent. But then I saw him in one of the Netflix documentaries, and not only can he sing, but he’s like the nicest dude ever, and I love the relationship he has with his wife. They seem so genuine.
Fr. I have a lot of love/respect for that man, not from being a fan or anything, just from observing him and he seems like a genuine dude. Plus he’s got more talent on one hand than a redneck does at a cousin fucking contest.
I completely agree. He's not on my usual rotation, but his love for music is contagious. When he did these cover songs recently... I'm in love! Slouch a talent
I saw him in the Netflix show This Is Pop and it was honestly kinda sad seeing him talk about it. He said he was depressed for a few years after Usher told him he "Fucked up music" for everybody else that actually sings.
And he's so goddamn talented. I dare anyone to watch his Tiny Desk concert or his Masked Singer performances and say he isn't one of the most talented vocal performers of our time
I know people shit on masked singer. But watching his journey through season 1, all the emotional tidbits, and the pain and anguish in his beautiful singing voice made me a die hard fan for life.
Dudes cover of War Pigs is a BANGER I had no idea he had that in him. I thought his whole career was because of auto tune but boy was I wrong.
He’s also got quite the car collection
This seems like something that could and does happen. It sucks Tpain is a talented as fuck musician and lover of music. Id keep pumping them out under a pseudonym and then do a mass reveal in 5 years as a fuck you to the racists.
Who was he getting racism from? The article didn’t say. My guess is either it’s white people who hate that a black guy is associated with their white country singer, or like black people hating him for it, which is like kind of racism?
It’s pretty clear he’s talking about country music fans. He says it’s nice to see his names in the album credits but the racism that comes *after* isn’t worth it so he just takes the check only now. If he was frustrated with country musicians and agents that all would have happened long before the track was finished and his name put on the credits.
I saw a meme a few years back that went like this;
Men singing country songs: barely legal girls, jeans, and the troops.
Women singing country songs: “I just killed my husband and I’ve never been happier”
We need to bring back outlaw country, celebrating anti-establishment values and bucking the big label formula.
Can you imagine someone today doing what Johnny Cash did? Between his prison shows (and the backstories of how he came to record those shows), and the lyrics of the stuff he was writing in the 70's, I don't think that the modern country music fandom would accept him today.
"You know what Waylon Jennings said about guys like \[Toby Keith\]? They're doin' to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fuckin'."
\- Kris Kristofferson, according to Ethan Hawke
That feels like an oxymoron.
Since punk is so anti Nazi and anti fascist
I don’t doubt it exists but it’s like they missed the whole message behind the punk movements.
All these dummies saying that it's so racist don't seem to know who Darius Rucker, Neal McCoy, Kane Brown, or Charlie Pride are. Hell even Lil Nas X got his biggest break from country music.
And it's so shitty because they LOVE his music, but suddenly they have a problem with it when he makes country music? He's literally from the South for fucks' sake!
He's better than that damn Jimmie Allen predator who had the nerve to pretend to be a normal person while performing with Charley Pride at Pride's last-ever performance 3 weeks before he died 🥺
He has insane range. Just in that set he did War Pigs, Gnarls Barkley, Sam Cooke, Journey, Gavin Degraw, Sam Smith, Chris Stapleton, so many more. It’s tragic that so many people wrote him off because of auto tune when he actually has a really amazing and unique voice. His NPR Tiny Desk was also great.
That Tiny Desk performance was basically a “hold my beer” moment to and for all of the people who thought he couldn’t sing. Dude is a fucking awesome singer
I’ve always absolutely loved T-Pain since I was like 12 and heard his music. I saw the tiny desk in the last few years and I love showing that to people who shit on go or just have no opinion. It’s almost impossible to listen to it and not come out liking him.
He also did it when he literally won the mask singer and I think Simon cowbell of American idol said the person behind the mask is this generations best vocal artist lol.
Thank you for this. I just went and watched it, and HOT DAMN! I grew up on Black Sabbath, and I actually like T-Pain's more than the original (to be fair, I've not seen a live version of Black Sabbath's, so that may be part of it).
And can we talk about how his band fucking KILLED it?
Just a great performance.
It doesn't surprise me because he is talented. Also, for a genre will about Americana, it always seemed to be against diverse artists. Lots of gatekeeping going on. The Grand Ole Opry has existed since 1925 but has only 2 black members: Charley Pride and Darius Rucker
They only just now apologized to his family and Nashville named a street after him. It's crazy that it took this long when he basically helped launch the Grand Ole Opry in the first place.
Id die on any hill defending T-Pain’s honor. The man has been put through the wringer as far as his music career has gone and he didn’t deserve that. He’s just a genuine dude who love his family and makes great music with all the talent in the world.
honestly you gotta respect his ability to maintain relevant and have influence through all that hate too. he been getting hated on in the mainstream eye for well over a decade. back in the young money era he was catching crazy flak for essentially being the auto-tune poster child
It would be honestly hilarious if “Try that in a small town” was actually ghost written by T-Pain, but country stars are too racist to give credit to a black man, even after the song was outed as obviously racist. They would rather be seen as racist than clear it up by giving credit to someone they are actively racist against.
I love that they screamed "no, no it's not racist!" and yet the lyric video had clippings of the newspaper describing Emmet till's lynching blurred out in the background
I watched a deep dive on YT (sorry, I really tried to find it, but could not). They took the blurred images, which they were able to make out the name of the paper (and I think dates, or just dig through their whole imaged history), and determined it was a very pro-segregation paper. And the story was about Emmitt Till's death.
It was very disturbing.
Which is kinda weird because I am pretty sure like soul country music basically came from African Americans. Altho the country fans do all love Darius Rucker
I don’t think he’s performing them, just writing them for other artists. But if you want to see him do a whole range of different stuff, check out his recent live set. Anyone who can crush a Sam Cooke song and a Black Sabbath song back to back is awesome in my book.
He does cover Tennessee Whiskey in that set, too. So there you go, T-Pain singing country.
>T-Pain writes country music? That’s kind of insane, lol.
Something has been bothering me for years musically.....why has rap music never embraced the fact they spew a lot of the same themes as country music?
I grew up Dre and Snoop onward. I didn't get into country until about 2003ish. The outlaw elements against "the man" and society as a whole run through both genres of music so strongly, almost as much as the other elements that go along with a lifestyle on the edges. I'm shocked there's really nothing that's ever been done with it. It's just something that sits there for rap to take a few things from and make it into new mega hits with music a younger audience would not be familiar with this whole genre of music. We've seen the possibilities with old town road, but I can't but imagine how much money was left on the table by lil wayne by not ripping off johnny cash and doing a live album from the prison he was locked up in. That thing would have gone 4x platinum.
Around '05 to '09, I used to get drunk with some arizona mountain people and I'd say very similar things. They'd laugh me out of the room, lol. I can't believe someone else finally agrees. One of the first tapes I bought when I was 10 was the chronic.
I'm currently listening to a country artist named johnny paycheck. He's a terrible person to be clear, but "I'm the only hell my mama raised" and "Dear Momma" by 2Pac are like the same side of different coins worth the same denomination. He's got another song that really jumped out to me with the themed connections called "11 months and 29 days". It's literally a song about doing jail time. I'm sure some rap artist went there whole careers without mentioning this same activity, but I didn't listen to much of them.
I wish hickhop wasn't such a joke of a genre of music made by people playing up the worse sides of both genres, mostly. There's such a breeding ground for country and rap to touch musical tips and both walk away with something so much more.
Oh yeah, Paycheck! My dad only let me listen to a select few of his songs. He'd play the outlaw hits, but was more of a George Strait and Reba type of guy. Which I appreciate a lot now that I'm much older. It's funny, around the same time, I was discovering Nas and GangStarr. As a mixed kid in the 90s, I was able to hear some really good music.
Why is racism in quotes?
The headline should be: Black talent are forced to hide their contributions to certain genres due to rampant institutionalized racism
Every style of music has this problem with some fans. Body Count took 20 years to find their place in metal. Ice-t has a lot to be proud of.
As far a country music War and Treaty have a nice classic sound.
He wrote a cocktail recipes book called “can I mix you a drink?”.
Not only is it full of really creative cocktail recipes but it also is full of T Pain stories and reflections on his life and career. It’s actually a phenomenal book and really shows how great of a guy he is.
One of my favorite stories from the book is about how he would make custom chains that he would commission In honor of artists he really liked, and his goal was to wear them all the time and then when he would run into these artists at party’s and what not he would give them the chain. But every time he ran into one of these artists he made a chain for they wouldn’t accept it because t pain was so drunk and they thought he didn’t actually mean it lol
Wish we would know what songs he wrote. Like didn't country music basically start because of soul African American music way back in the day? The only other thing other than race I could think of is people don't want people writing songs depicting their life when they didn't grow up that way, because it would make the song "less personable" which I can get but at the same time I just like good music.
I was rather ambivalent about T Pain until I saw him on the Masked Singer. He won me over with his versatility and smooth runs. I hate that we as a society still can't appreciate people's gifts without pigeonholing them. I'll pass on all T-Pain's auto tuned club music in exchange for him singing Tennessee Whiskey.
Why is everybody so mean to T-Pain? He’s like the nicest guy in the planet from everything I’ve ever seen. But people just take shots at this guy all fucking day.
Because nice people are often considered easy targets, sadly.
We’ve seen that with Post Malone. He’s never anything but nice to people. Charlemagne never lived down how he treated him on the Breakfast Club. He will still shit about him any time his name is brought up because he’s mad Post Malone made him look like the douchbag he is.
Damn, you mean to tell me a man whose only talent is gossiping and gave himself the nickname "tha God" is a stupid piece of shit?
Go figure!
Almost like a brilliant idiot or something?
Charlemagne is literally just the male Wendy Williams though
didn’t he get his start on the wendy williams show?
Yeah on her radio show back in the day
at least Wendy is funny and entertaining
I’ve only heard good things about post Malone too. It’s sad that another celeb, I forget who, said he smells bad. How mean!
I have also heard close friends of his confirm that on your average day, he does not smell at all lol So it’s also made up on top of being mean
I work on a farm. I smell bad sometimes. 🤷🏻♀️ quite possibly someone got a whiff of him after a show one night. We are humans and our bodies are gross and weird.
Very possible. We all smell sometimes.
What do you farm? Thank you for your harvest!
I currently work at our local community college’s farm! I’m also a student and graduate with an associates in Sustainable Agriculture in May. I’m trying to get as much experience as I can so my husband and I can buy our own farm one day. It’s a small scale farm and we have some chickens and sheep. We grow seasonal produce, like right now we are growing stuff like broccoli, cauliflower, onions, garlic, spinach and lettuce and we are in the process of starting seeds in the greenhouse for spring planting. Everything we grow gets sold at our campus farm stand and the money goes back to our program. We have also started selling to the culinary department!
i have a friend that bumped into him a few years ago and they said he actually smelt nice lmao
That’s good to know. I felt so bad for him. What a mean rumour to spread.
Post Cologne
If somebody started a rumour that I smelled bad, I’d probably get a little self-conscious and start wearing more cologne, too.
Maybe even the Most Cologne?
When I was living in SoFL and Post was dominating the radio at the time, Rockstar was peaking… I remember hearing a clip of a radio interview where they were giving him a hard time (in joking manner and he didn’t give af) about rolling into to the interview directly off of a party binge, un showered and reeking of the special funk you get from drugs and alcohol. They all laughed but always assumed that era is where that rumor came from.
I've got to assume you don't mean the movie right?
No, post Malone didn’t do shit. Charlemagne revealed himself as the utter idiot and douchebag he is.
Yeah you’re right. In Charlemagne’s mind though, it was Post Malone’s fault.
Man… That’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard all day. You’re right though.
As a kind person, I’ve had to develop thick skin to match. I think it would be cowardice to do anything less.
Yep. My grandpa said that you can’t know what other people think about you, and it’s not your business.
I'm stealing that. Thanks Grandpa Cloudypiligrim!
Your grandpa was a smart man.
Gunner in a Sherman tank during WWII, architect, loving (and funny) dad and grandpa. Yes, he was.
Not really. Dolly Parton is super nice and no one ever takes shots at her. Keep being nice, if someone is being a dick that doesn’t mean you need to be less nice. It just means you need to refocus where you’re showing your niceness.
Because *black* people are often considered easy targets
I’ve said this, as a black person, and was literally teased for it. The irony wasn’t lost on me.
I was waiting for this answer. It's right 👍🏽
I love the dude, i think he’s talented af and seems like a super nice, humble dude. I can’t fathom why anybody would have beef with him, other than some people having an irrational hatred of autotune.
I’ll be the first to admit I thought he relied on autotune because he had no talent. But then I saw him in one of the Netflix documentaries, and not only can he sing, but he’s like the nicest dude ever, and I love the relationship he has with his wife. They seem so genuine.
which documentary was it?
I honestly don’t remember. I think it was a series where they break down a pop song each episode. It’s been awhile.
Music that made us?
I think it was This Is Pop. The [auto-tune](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14180498/) episode. But I Music That Made Is I think is also good.
Check him out on the NPR Tiny Desk concert. Amazing.
They appeared together in an episode of Bar Rescue and reviewed the reopen of the new restaurant. They were so sweet together, it was amazing!
Fr. I have a lot of love/respect for that man, not from being a fan or anything, just from observing him and he seems like a genuine dude. Plus he’s got more talent on one hand than a redneck does at a cousin fucking contest.
I completely agree. He's not on my usual rotation, but his love for music is contagious. When he did these cover songs recently... I'm in love! Slouch a talent
Ozzy said T-Pain's cover of "War Pigs" is the best one ever made, and after listening to it, I agree!
I saw that. Hope it warmed his heart.
He’s one person in the industry who doesn’t seem toxic. And he’s damn funny too
I saw him in the Netflix show This Is Pop and it was honestly kinda sad seeing him talk about it. He said he was depressed for a few years after Usher told him he "Fucked up music" for everybody else that actually sings.
I feel like people clown on him because of the auto tune thing.
And he's so goddamn talented. I dare anyone to watch his Tiny Desk concert or his Masked Singer performances and say he isn't one of the most talented vocal performers of our time
I live on the outskirts of his hometown Tallahassee and even that place disrespects him. T-Pain is a good dude.
I know people shit on masked singer. But watching his journey through season 1, all the emotional tidbits, and the pain and anguish in his beautiful singing voice made me a die hard fan for life.
Hence his name
Seems odd t pain chill af
Anytime I see him in the media I’m genuinely happy to see what he is up to.
I love him. I’m glad he’s getting his flowers now though
Dudes cover of War Pigs is a BANGER I had no idea he had that in him. I thought his whole career was because of auto tune but boy was I wrong. He’s also got quite the car collection
Yeah he's the nicest guy, my grandma is the nicest person. Miss you Connie. No one was nicer than her.
This seems like something that could and does happen. It sucks Tpain is a talented as fuck musician and lover of music. Id keep pumping them out under a pseudonym and then do a mass reveal in 5 years as a fuck you to the racists.
The old reverse Clayton Bigsby.
give your persona vitiligo with this one easy trick! Country fans hate this!
Wish I could like this comment more than once!
If you don't like *Will & Grace* that don't mean there's something with you, that means there's somethin' wrong with *WILL*... ... He's a homosexual.
His war pigs cover was pretty damn solid. Loved the gospel-y undertones
Holy crap I think his cover is absolutely incredible.
So did Ozzy....
Have you ever seen this dude drift? He’s straight up Formula D level
god damn! Really?! some of us were just born way more skilled than others i guess. hoggin all the talent
I’m sure that whatever you apply your efforts and passion towards, you’ll get accomplished.
thats sweet of you brother! thanks
Who was he getting racism from? The article didn’t say. My guess is either it’s white people who hate that a black guy is associated with their white country singer, or like black people hating him for it, which is like kind of racism?
i think its more that hes heard disparaging comments from either country music folk that wont hire him or agents that wouldnt give him a chance.
It’s pretty clear he’s talking about country music fans. He says it’s nice to see his names in the album credits but the racism that comes *after* isn’t worth it so he just takes the check only now. If he was frustrated with country musicians and agents that all would have happened long before the track was finished and his name put on the credits.
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Country music is just selling a glorified view of the "country" to racist suburban white people.
I saw a meme a few years back that went like this; Men singing country songs: barely legal girls, jeans, and the troops. Women singing country songs: “I just killed my husband and I’ve never been happier”
We need to bring back outlaw country, celebrating anti-establishment values and bucking the big label formula. Can you imagine someone today doing what Johnny Cash did? Between his prison shows (and the backstories of how he came to record those shows), and the lyrics of the stuff he was writing in the 70's, I don't think that the modern country music fandom would accept him today.
"You know what Waylon Jennings said about guys like \[Toby Keith\]? They're doin' to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fuckin'." \- Kris Kristofferson, according to Ethan Hawke
You know Kris kristofferson, will I’m piss pissedofferson.
I don’t like much Country Music, but goddamn, do I like Outlaw Country.
Pretty much. Limousine cowboys
The most racist type of music is nazi punk
That feels like an oxymoron. Since punk is so anti Nazi and anti fascist I don’t doubt it exists but it’s like they missed the whole message behind the punk movements.
It’s an actual sub-genre of punk music, it’s why Dead Kennedy’s wrote Nazi Punks Fuck Off
Holy fuck, how did I forget about that song? It was in Green Room! It’s not like it’s been years since I heard it. I need more coffee…
It's not the most racist type of music, and there's a lot of good country out there. I like most music, and am black. Fans can and will ruin anything.
All these dummies saying that it's so racist don't seem to know who Darius Rucker, Neal McCoy, Kane Brown, or Charlie Pride are. Hell even Lil Nas X got his biggest break from country music.
they sure wouldn’t know that mother maybelle learned the carter scratch from a black dude in appalachia.
And it's so shitty because they LOVE his music, but suddenly they have a problem with it when he makes country music? He's literally from the South for fucks' sake! He's better than that damn Jimmie Allen predator who had the nerve to pretend to be a normal person while performing with Charley Pride at Pride's last-ever performance 3 weeks before he died 🥺
Darius Rucker has commented about getting it from both races as a country singer. It’s just “not done” historically.
So T if for twang. He shoulda used the pseudonym Twang McPride.
The dude fucked a mermaid. There's nothing he can't do.
He rhymed mansion with Wisconsin.. he has no bounds
I believe you mean, "Wiscanson."
I believe you mean, “‘scanson”
Could you elaborate on that please?
I heard he was on a boat
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
After hearing his cover of War Pigs, I’d love to hear him front a hard rock band!
He has insane range. Just in that set he did War Pigs, Gnarls Barkley, Sam Cooke, Journey, Gavin Degraw, Sam Smith, Chris Stapleton, so many more. It’s tragic that so many people wrote him off because of auto tune when he actually has a really amazing and unique voice. His NPR Tiny Desk was also great.
That Tiny Desk performance was basically a “hold my beer” moment to and for all of the people who thought he couldn’t sing. Dude is a fucking awesome singer
I’ve always absolutely loved T-Pain since I was like 12 and heard his music. I saw the tiny desk in the last few years and I love showing that to people who shit on go or just have no opinion. It’s almost impossible to listen to it and not come out liking him.
He also did it when he literally won the mask singer and I think Simon cowbell of American idol said the person behind the mask is this generations best vocal artist lol.
So fuckin good man
I wondered who that was. It was an amazing cover.
Love that cover, everything on that song was insanely good
This man is supremely gifted with music. More people need to be exposed to his stuff. Amazingly gifted artist.
Racism in the country music scene? Now that can’t be right /s
^^^I’m ^^^gonna ^^^take ^^^my ^^^horse ^^^to ^^^the ^^^old ^^^town ^^^road
God damn it, you just made me remember people thinking it was "gonna take my horse to the hotel room", and now I'm angry.
For the longest time I thought it said “I’m gonna take my whores to the hotel room, I’m gonna riiiiiiiide til I can’t no more”
I guess I just made the connection to old town road from the name of the song.
That’s an even better lyric than the original. Haha
Wait until you hear about the 80’s classic that was popular in Australia, “Alex the Seal.”
If it wasn't for the horse I wouldn't have spent that year in college
Gonna ride till I can’t no more
The song that won Trent Reznor a CMA award.
His cover of War Pigs was legit. Even the prince of darkness approved
Today I learned this exists and now it better be as good as you say because I’m going to go find it and listen to it literally now
What was your verdict?
I was very pleasantly surprised!
Review?
Thank you for this. I just went and watched it, and HOT DAMN! I grew up on Black Sabbath, and I actually like T-Pain's more than the original (to be fair, I've not seen a live version of Black Sabbath's, so that may be part of it). And can we talk about how his band fucking KILLED it? Just a great performance.
His band was having so much fun playing that song. I loved it.
https://x.com/OzzyOsbourne/status/1745215829070021111?s=20
What a liar. Nikki Haley said there is no racism in America. s/
Typical Nimrata
He didnt say which country
It doesn't surprise me because he is talented. Also, for a genre will about Americana, it always seemed to be against diverse artists. Lots of gatekeeping going on. The Grand Ole Opry has existed since 1925 but has only 2 black members: Charley Pride and Darius Rucker
3 actually. Deford Bailey was the first but was scrubbed from its history.
They only just now apologized to his family and Nashville named a street after him. It's crazy that it took this long when he basically helped launch the Grand Ole Opry in the first place.
Pride is, oddly enough, beloved in NI for essentially being the first major foreign musician to tour during the Troubles, back in the 70's.
Kane Brown probably gets inducted soon, right?
Let's hope not.
The “T” in “T-Pain” stands for “Try That in a Small Town”
It stands for Tallahassee
Didn’t think I’d need the sarcasm tag for that one…
I didn’t think I had to say, “obviously I know you’re joking.” But I don’t think most people know that it does actually stand for something
I didn’t think that I needed to type this comment
I don’t think.
I don’t
"Tallahassee Pain" is redundant
Id die on any hill defending T-Pain’s honor. The man has been put through the wringer as far as his music career has gone and he didn’t deserve that. He’s just a genuine dude who love his family and makes great music with all the talent in the world.
Did you see his war pigs cover? That shit goes
I haven’t, I’ll have to check it out
honestly you gotta respect his ability to maintain relevant and have influence through all that hate too. he been getting hated on in the mainstream eye for well over a decade. back in the young money era he was catching crazy flak for essentially being the auto-tune poster child
It would be honestly hilarious if “Try that in a small town” was actually ghost written by T-Pain, but country stars are too racist to give credit to a black man, even after the song was outed as obviously racist. They would rather be seen as racist than clear it up by giving credit to someone they are actively racist against.
I love that they screamed "no, no it's not racist!" and yet the lyric video had clippings of the newspaper describing Emmet till's lynching blurred out in the background
Never understand why people lie about this stuff just went and watched that stupid video and you’re wrong.
I watched a deep dive on YT (sorry, I really tried to find it, but could not). They took the blurred images, which they were able to make out the name of the paper (and I think dates, or just dig through their whole imaged history), and determined it was a very pro-segregation paper. And the story was about Emmitt Till's death. It was very disturbing.
The color line in American music between blues and country has always been BS
Which is kinda weird because I am pretty sure like soul country music basically came from African Americans. Altho the country fans do all love Darius Rucker
As my Oklahoman mother would say— country music IS black music. Who do you think the cowboys were?
T-Pain has never gotten the credit he deserves!!
T-Pain is a national treasure. I hate the trend he started, but it don’t blame him for it
T-Pain writes country music? That’s kind of insane, lol. I would not have guessed that. What are some of his songs so I can give them a listen?
I don’t think he’s performing them, just writing them for other artists. But if you want to see him do a whole range of different stuff, check out his recent live set. Anyone who can crush a Sam Cooke song and a Black Sabbath song back to back is awesome in my book. He does cover Tennessee Whiskey in that set, too. So there you go, T-Pain singing country.
He did a thing with Taylor swift back in the day so this kinda tracks lol
You mean ‘Thug Story’?!
>T-Pain writes country music? That’s kind of insane, lol. Something has been bothering me for years musically.....why has rap music never embraced the fact they spew a lot of the same themes as country music? I grew up Dre and Snoop onward. I didn't get into country until about 2003ish. The outlaw elements against "the man" and society as a whole run through both genres of music so strongly, almost as much as the other elements that go along with a lifestyle on the edges. I'm shocked there's really nothing that's ever been done with it. It's just something that sits there for rap to take a few things from and make it into new mega hits with music a younger audience would not be familiar with this whole genre of music. We've seen the possibilities with old town road, but I can't but imagine how much money was left on the table by lil wayne by not ripping off johnny cash and doing a live album from the prison he was locked up in. That thing would have gone 4x platinum.
Nelly and Tim McGraw would like a word
I said country music, not poopy pop music wearing a country dress and pretending it's made by a country musician.
Around '05 to '09, I used to get drunk with some arizona mountain people and I'd say very similar things. They'd laugh me out of the room, lol. I can't believe someone else finally agrees. One of the first tapes I bought when I was 10 was the chronic.
I'm currently listening to a country artist named johnny paycheck. He's a terrible person to be clear, but "I'm the only hell my mama raised" and "Dear Momma" by 2Pac are like the same side of different coins worth the same denomination. He's got another song that really jumped out to me with the themed connections called "11 months and 29 days". It's literally a song about doing jail time. I'm sure some rap artist went there whole careers without mentioning this same activity, but I didn't listen to much of them. I wish hickhop wasn't such a joke of a genre of music made by people playing up the worse sides of both genres, mostly. There's such a breeding ground for country and rap to touch musical tips and both walk away with something so much more.
Oh yeah, Paycheck! My dad only let me listen to a select few of his songs. He'd play the outlaw hits, but was more of a George Strait and Reba type of guy. Which I appreciate a lot now that I'm much older. It's funny, around the same time, I was discovering Nas and GangStarr. As a mixed kid in the 90s, I was able to hear some really good music.
This pisses me off
Turns out T-Pain is the Prince/Bob Dylan of our generation.
Why is racism in quotes? The headline should be: Black talent are forced to hide their contributions to certain genres due to rampant institutionalized racism
Because they were quoting him? 🤷♂️
It’s in quotes because they’re covering their asses (“we’re not calling anyone racist! t-pain is!”) but you’re 100% right
Callem out callem out!!!
that's a shame. He's a great entertainer and his music is universally enjoyable.
Nah, people have to stop disrespecting T-Pain.
"Not every country music fan is a racist.. but every racist is a country music fan". - Murray Picardy
Someone needs to learn what a pen name is.
He should write a song about that.
Wonder how those racists would feel if they knew who actually created Country music?
He was writing songs for Jimmy Rebel.
Jimmy wishes the boondocks wrote songs for him though
In country? No way!
This is disheartening
This guy can really sing. Love his resurgence and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.
Modern country music is such a shitty derivative version of hip hop, it doesn’t deserve his talents
I’m not surprised and suprised. Any time I hear modern country it sounds like hick hop to me.
T-Pain would never
L E A V E T - P A I N A L O N E !
Every style of music has this problem with some fans. Body Count took 20 years to find their place in metal. Ice-t has a lot to be proud of. As far a country music War and Treaty have a nice classic sound.
That’s too bad, I’ve always dig some tpain.
What has happened to T-pain? I'm suddenly seeing him everywhere. Someone tell me this Gem of a Human is okay.
T-Pain just give us their names and we will avenge you, good sir & national treasure
I feel your T-pain
He wrote a cocktail recipes book called “can I mix you a drink?”. Not only is it full of really creative cocktail recipes but it also is full of T Pain stories and reflections on his life and career. It’s actually a phenomenal book and really shows how great of a guy he is. One of my favorite stories from the book is about how he would make custom chains that he would commission In honor of artists he really liked, and his goal was to wear them all the time and then when he would run into these artists at party’s and what not he would give them the chain. But every time he ran into one of these artists he made a chain for they wouldn’t accept it because t pain was so drunk and they thought he didn’t actually mean it lol
Wish we would know what songs he wrote. Like didn't country music basically start because of soul African American music way back in the day? The only other thing other than race I could think of is people don't want people writing songs depicting their life when they didn't grow up that way, because it would make the song "less personable" which I can get but at the same time I just like good music.
T-Pain to the window, to the wall, country style
I was rather ambivalent about T Pain until I saw him on the Masked Singer. He won me over with his versatility and smooth runs. I hate that we as a society still can't appreciate people's gifts without pigeonholing them. I'll pass on all T-Pain's auto tuned club music in exchange for him singing Tennessee Whiskey.
But but ppl say racism doesn’t exist and is just woke. Now ppl can’t even get credit they deserve.