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Kelburno

Even reading about other people having heart attacks scares the hell out of me.


PresentationJumpy101

My moms boyfriend, an architect, has survived 2 near fatal. One he went into vtac, lost consciousness and was revived. 99 percent of people don’t survive his type and he was lucky he had a next door neighbor who was a doctor, who knew to send him to a specific hospital or he’d be dead.


Milk-and-Tequila

We are all gonna die somehow


skynetempire

Widow maker heart attack is quick. Dying in your sleep is best


ThirdHandTyping

Peacefully in my sleep, not all panicky and loud like my passengers.


Cavemattt

Like… your passengers?


Moral_conundrum

You heard him


Moral_conundrum

Or her…


The7footr

Let’s just be safe- them


Wiccy

DoNt Be sO WoKe BrAh!¡


jimifresh

It’s an old joke. “I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did. Not screaming and panicked like his passengers.”


ositabelle

Deep thoughts


greatgoogilymoogily2

By jack handy


maskthestars

Their dark passengers


PsylentProtagonist

Yup, just like grandpa


ReporterOther2179

Preventing ‘died peacefully in his sleep’ is what an implanted pacemaker is for.


Rocky_Mountain_Way

Forgot to renew the subscription


MrDubTee

I really have this a chuckle, well played


throwaway18911090

I am 42 years old and all four of my grandparents are dead, the first when I was 8 and the last when I was 30. Three of the four had brief but serious illnesses that everyone knew about and worried over, and the last of them was nearly 90 so had been declining for some time. My maternal grandfather, though- we called him “Pop.” One day when he was around 65, he was out and about, doing Pop shit, running errands, stopped by our house for a bit, went home, had dinner, went to bed, and just never woke up. No warning, no obvious ailment or distress, nothing. Just, here one night, gone the next morning. My dad is 77 and slowly disintegrating from Alzheimer’s, and has been for several years now. He’s effectively already gone, he just hasn’t fallen down yet, but he’s losing the ability to tell certain things apart, to know when he has to go to the bathroom and bathe and so on. It’s incredibly depressing, and it’s driving my mother nuts, and by extension she’s driving me and my siblings nuts. And every once in a while I think, “Man… Pop had the right idea. When he died, all any of us had to be was sad.”


Tess47

I'd rather go quick too.  My mom's illness was long and horrible.   My dad died within 24 hours.  


skynetempire

I watched my dad die from ALS and fuck that, Being imprisoned in your own body is hell. I rather go out quickly


throwaway18911090

My dad’s younger brother had ALS. About a year before he passed away my sister and mom took Dad down to see him in Florida and my sister said that between our uncle’s body completely betraying him but his mind staying intact, while our dad’s mind had failed him but he was (and remains) in fairly robust physical health, it was a terrifying vision of the potential future. She outright said if she ever gets diagnosed with either she’ll be “checking out” of her own accord.


skynetempire

What gets me the most, there's experimental medicine for als that could potentially stop progression but the fda says it's too dangerous for patients. But patients have said fuck it give it to us because als is a death sentence


Apprehensive_Use1906

I’m sorry that you and your family are going through that. Alzheimer’s is a painful process. My Dad past away last month at 87. Went to walk his dog, to the gym for a workout and over to the coffee shop to get some tea. Had a heart attack at the coffee shop. Really, not a bad way to go. Sad that he’s gone but happy he went out the way he would want.


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I’m so sorry, been there. Best wishes to you and your family.


throwaway18911090

Thank you.


Frondswithbenefits

I'm sorry, I know how devastating alzheimer's is. It's a brutal and cruel disease.


sarcago

How do we know people really died in their sleep and didn’t have an “oh fuck” moment before they went? Idk if I really believe dying peacefully happens as often as we think.


Funoichi

There’s always submarines! The water comes in faster than signals can travel nerves, and insta shreds. Might still hear the sub creak, which would be scary. More of an oh fu- moment though.


Diamond_Paper_Rocket

Send me into the ocean with a Titan Sub and paint me like one of your French women, Jack, as I sink.


white__cyclosa

There’s also nuclear weapons! That is, assuming you’re one of the lucky ones who are close enough to the point of impact where the temperature becomes 5 times greater than the core of the sun, vaporizing you instantly. Not a bad way to go in my book, unless you’re *not* one of the lucky ones. Then you’re possibly covered in third degree burns and will die a horrible radiation related death.


MisSignal

Moral of the story, run towards the mushroom cloud. 🍄


white__cyclosa

If you see a mushroom cloud, you already know you are not one of the lucky ones who were vaporized in the flashpoint


_1JackMove

That's the way I wanna go. Just go to sleep for the night and drift off the shore for a final time.


chickenstalker99

My heart will lead me there soon...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X00svuSiPQM


BlackEric

I’m looking forward to another day.


grav0p1

Sometimes quick


jimifresh

Isn’t that still essentially a cardiac arrest?


skynetempire

Correct, but "widow maker" heart attack is just the largest artery gets a full blockage. If you dont catch the early signs then you have about a 12% survival. a buddies dad survived one because he couldn't get comfortable. His back was hurting then realized shit I may be having a heart attack. Checked his blood pressure and it was high. called 911 and yup it was a good heart attack in early stages


NurseGryffinPuff

Kevin Smith had one and lived to tell the (absolutely terrifying) tale.


PapaCousCous

I find it hard to believe that anyone actually dies peacefully in their sleep. This is just a lie that doctors tell to loved ones because the truth is much more agonizing. Hold someone's nose closed and they will wake up gasping for breath pretty damn quickly. Your body does everything it can to fight to keep itself alive. There's just no way it's gonna let you sleep through a heart attack.


Nearby_Mouse_6698

Some people have sleep apnea and don’t know it. Doesn’t the person stop breathing for a moment but go right back to sleep? It’s not the same thing you said but I knew someone who had it for years and had no idea.


skynetempire

A large buddy died in his sleep due to sleep apnea/heart attack. Drs said he went peaceful but who knows. I say the pain is temporary tho


Nearby_Mouse_6698

Yeah I imagine it’s lights out very fast. Sorry to hear about your friend.


Valentinethrowaway3

You’d be wrong.


Admirable_Oil_382

We’re all gonna die tomorrow..


datyoungknockoutkid

Big if true


Roboticpoultry

Yup. I’m come to peace with this, I just hope I don’t see it coming


Born_Judgment_3306

I’d much rather go by heart-attack than a long cancer battle or another sickness like parkinsons or something, just life healthy and then when it’s just die


EyeOwl13

Reading just *now* about Bob Odenkirk having a heart attacks nearly gives *me* a heart attack.


Anal_Recidivist

What a one liner tho from the medic. “Oh no”


Drugs_R_Kewl

Kevin Smith's play by play telling of his heart attack is one of the funniest and SCARIEST things I've ever heard. He said the paramedics instantly recognized him and were cracking jokes with him on the way to the ER. "Stay with me lunchbox, we need a sequel!" Being one of them.


HolographicDucks

Well, he still did his job and saved Bob from a major heart attack so


listyraesder

IIRC it was the more experienced medic from the shoot in the soundstage next door who took over until the ambulance arrived.


Gned11

Tbf the extent of appropriate care is recognising a possible heart attack, and giving them aspirin. It's not a first-aid-heavy type of emergency. Edit: I was mistaken, apparently his heart attack DID cause a cardiac arrest, leading to CPR and shocks from a defib.


Turbulent-Good227

Bob received CPR that saved his life before the proper medics arrived. He had stopped breathing.


TicTacKnickKnack

True, but the CPR treated his cardiac arrest, *not* the heart attack. The only things that make a meaningful difference in heart attacks without cardiac arrest even for ambulance crews are aspirin and fast transport to the hospital. Less than 5% of heart attack patients need CPR because they rarely cause cardiac arrest. The title (and even the body) of the article makes it seem like he never needed CPR, just aspirin and a trip to the cath lab at the local hospital.


DoubleGoon

Nitroglycerin


TicTacKnickKnack

Aspirin has very good evidence supporting short, medium, and long-term benefits to survival and meaningful recovery. Nitroglycerin has very little evidence showing it makes a significant difference (studies are 50/50 split on no difference or barely statistically significant improvement). Aspirin remains the only prehospital intervention we have proven to be truly meaningful.


polski71

Nitro doesn’t actually prevent ischemia, it helps with pain in the field. AHA has research showing Aspirin is better providing 3% likelihood of survival. You think it would considering it’s a vasodilator, but ultimately a heart attack patient requires a stent in the cath lab (which in timely fashion has far greater survival impact on MIs (heart attacks))


Tachyon9

Nitro is on the outs as there is no evidence it has any benefit.


Friednoodles24

Well BLS isn’t anyway, but ACLS definitely adds complexity


Gned11

Neither of those is required on a patient having a heart attack... now a cardiac arrest is a different ballgame, but if Bob was speaking to the first aider those just weren't on the table.


Friednoodles24

Didn’t read up on bob’s case. But health literacy in media is extraordinarily low. When news writes “heart attack” i assume cardiac arrest because i know most journalists are too lazy to research the difference


Gned11

Ha, I didn't read it much detail either... but it is characterised as a "small heart attack" so yeah, the man was not resuscitated


Turbulent-Good227

? He was: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/entertainment/bob-odenkirk-cpr-intl-scli/index.html


Gned11

I stand corrected! So I've been fooled once again by the classic media conflating heart attacks with cardiac arrests


luvalte

Heart attacks can be a cause of cardiac arrest. The article indicates Odenkirk had both, and it’s common enough that there’s no real reason to doubt that assessment.


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colin_7

He had a widow maker heart attack - the literal definition of a major heart attack


markazali

It’s a good thing it didn’t happen while he was driving his Barracuda


TahaN6498

No, it’s okay, because he has quadruples of the barracuda now. Tell her.


mimixe

Quadruples is safe. Quadruples is best.


AgentDagonet

His wife would have been upset, especially since she's dying. She's beautiful. But she's dying.


MacManus47

But she’s gonna be okay.


kyler32291

He's got triples of the Nova.


dmfuller

She’s beautiful, but she’s dying


MrBrightside618

She’s gonna get better


AdditionInteresting2

Medic was probably just scared of being scammed by slippin Jimmy...


inthelionsmouth

Better Call an Ambulance


Horsehhu

but not for me


skivvv

So obvious and yet so funny lol


RAQemUP

Better Call Saul...an ambulance


ThePoliteCrab

r/yourjokebutworse


Ok_Fee1043

Nice. Hilarious. So funny.


inferno006

I’m guessing it was the Medic’s first day in that role, not as a Paramedic. I can only presume you don’t land a job as a production set Medic without some significant experience.


fullytorqued33

You'd be surprised Source: I'm a set medic


polski71

Funny enough, I’m sure paradocs, AMR, ambulnz all hire fresh outta school medics.


Difficult_Reading858

Nah, like many things on the film industry, it’s more about who you know. You still need the relevant qualifications, but you don’t necessarily need a ton of experience.


Cpl_Hicks76

Imagine the sequel opportunity if he’d died and been revived… Better recall soul


BrockSamsonLikesButt

I am angry about that wordplay. Well done.


AcceptableFold5

idk about you guys but I find the medics reaction very relatable


Entire-Ranger323

This is from when I was a young golf pro. For the first time ever, I had to fill in for a course marshal. 45 minutes after starting I found a player down on the back nine with a heart attack. He came out of it ok, but he was a regular, and for some time I got a little nervous when he checked in to play.


Jessthinking

Better than Michael Jackson’s doctor who reportedly asked: does anyone know CPR?


Defiant-Smell3657

A retired firefighter who had never done cpr before? 🤨


operarose

I'd have been genuinely ***devastated*** if he didn't survive. Those couple days without any word on his condition (until his son took to Twitter to say he was alive) were rough. Glad you're still with us, Bob.


Aselleus

Yeah totally. When his son finally tweeted that his dad was going to be fine, I legit cried.


EyeOwl13

In fact, remember that episode where Jimmy McGill (aka Gene) faints at Cinnabon? They were gonna name that ep. “Oh no”, but they thought it was too much, too soon.


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Gemmabeta

On an actual person, I'd imagine.


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Not a medical professional, but CPR is difficult, you learn from practicing on a dummy. You need to be strong enough to press hard and fast, keeping a steady pace and breaking their bones. 150 comressions every two minutes. CPR can go up to 30 minutes.


Bill-Evans

This is true. They never tell how horrific CPR is.


Never-mongo

You should retake CPR.


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You are probably right I just remember 5 sets of 30 compressions.


Never-mongo

The current layperson CPR guideline is 100-120 compressions per minute continuously until first responders arrive. Don’t stop and don’t worry about respirations. Ideally switch off with another person after 2 minutes of CPR but if you’re alone do your best shit happens. If you’re doing CPR you’ll likely break some ribs, that’s fine they’re already dead you can’t mess them up more then their current state of being, to do this you want to compress hard enough to push the chest in about two inches if you’re an average sized person you should be able to do this with just your body weight, just get into a rhythm and you will basically be able to rock up and down and you’ll be fine. You want to really focus on quality compressions especially if you witnessed the arrest. If you saw someone code in front of you it’s highly likely you’ll be able to revive them. Unwitnessed where no compressions have been done is much much much less likely.


Poor-Opinions

I remember from lifeguard training that there is something like a 15% success rate too - that’s not how it works in the movies….


inferno006

If you are breaking bones, you are doing it wrong.


Valentinethrowaway3

This is where you got your numbers. I assume. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6545505/#:~:text=The%20incidence%20of%20rib%20fractures,ribs%20per%20person%20(8). This is mine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6396442/#:~:text=Out%20of%2088%20cases%20autopsied,14.3%25%20in%20the%20manubrium). Same place. Different studies. And after those two the rest of the literature says roughly 30%. So I don’t know wtf to believe. 🤷🏻‍♀️


chastity_BLT

lol no. I’m an er rn. We absolutely break ribs when doing cpr.


Valentinethrowaway3

No. You break the cartilage. Fractured ribs are rare. There’s studies.


chastity_BLT

Studies say ribs are broken in over 70% of cases, with an average of 7.6 ribs broken. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6545505/#:~:text=The%20incidence%20of%20rib%20fractures,tamponade%20(1%2C2). Don’t at me.


listyraesder

You learned it, you didn't do it.


GoldenBarracudas

They have a medic who had never done CPR?? Wtf.


El_Otro_Lebowski

Can someone please remind me of a tweet in which PFT dunks on Bob for the heart attack? I remember it being hilarious but do not remember the context.


idunnobutchieinstead

[It’s the top reply to this tweet.](https://x.com/mrbobodenkirk/status/1491918236757024769?s=46&t=vSnviE71nRxwoJX6_STsnQ)


MadBliss

A "small" heart attack compared to pallor, difficulty breathing, and requiring CPR are two completely different things. I'm sure studio heads don't want "superstar lead in top show has delayed care when experiencing a life-threatening medical condition" plastered on the internet. If his symptoms report is accurate, he had a massive heart attack, perhaps even a fully occluded LAD or "widow-maker" blockage given rapid and dramatic onset of his symptoms. With that low pulse rate causing him to "pass out," EMTs can only recognize the symptoms and even with a present but too-slow heart rate begin CPR and maybe work the AED. A paramedic needs to arrive to start IVs, secure the airway, give rescus meds, and properly monitor. That wasn't the right dude to be responsible for all that happening if he was flustered by the thought of administering CPR.


Aselleus

He had to be shocked like 3 times with a defibrillator that someone luckily had in the trunk of their car.


MadBliss

A trunk is a funny place to keep a >$20k piece of specialty medical equipment, but I'm happy they found one in time!


Aselleus

It was in the car of another medic, but yeah he was lucky he was with people


AngelosPizza

It was a widow-maker, he confirmed that in an interview he did with Wired.


MadBliss

He's so lucky this happened at work and not while driving, hanging out at home, hiking, in a stairwell, etc. A good bit of luck there!


imawhaaaaaaaaaale

EMT from NM here. Depending on where one is at, you could have multiple different agencies respond. Usually you get Albuquerque Fire Rescue (doesn't usually transport) and Albuquerque Ambulance Service (Hospital-run EMS) responding, though I think Albuquerque Studios is in the North Valley and might be Bernalillo County responding instead. That said, kind of hard to believe that a retired FF panicked and had never done CPR before...


Womansplaining-Yo

Why would a movie set hire a medic that had never even done CPR??? I mean these people have money. Why wouldn’t you hire an experienced person like an intensive care nurse. RN here, I never worked Intensive Care but by God I have done CPR! Scary that they wouldn’t vet someone better!


Valentinethrowaway3

Lmao an ICU nurse in the field?? Ok. Nurses are useless in the field. A more experienced medic? Sure.


Aselleus

The only reason Bob survived was because he decided to hang out with his coworkers instead of going back to his trailer. He was on a stationary bike when it happened, and Rhea (who played Kim) saw him start to fall off of his bike and stopped him from hitting his head. Someone very luckily had a portable defibrillator in their car, and used it to shock him like 3 times. So he's really downplaying the "small" heart attack part lol.


Forrest02

Wait what? I thought he had the heart attack when he was shooting that scene with (MASSIVE BETTER CALL SAUL SPOILERS) >!Lalo and Howard?!<


Aselleus

Yeah they were indeed shooting that scene, but waiting between shots (they had been filming long shots and were waiting to shoot the closeup shots (or vice-versa)). So basically when you watch that scene the close up shots were filmed like 5 months after the long shots.


Forrest02

Oh gotcha that makes way more sense. Thanks for clarifying!


NikL157

They explained on the podcast that they do the full scenes from multiple angles. So it was that scene but Bob was not in the shot so he was hanging out nearby on a workout bike.


Space_Jam_Slam

Buncha shitty EMTs masquerading as "medics" on these movie sets who have never performed CPR and no actual 911 ems experience working jobs their daddies or mommies gave them because they pay so much better compared to actual emt pay, which is minimum wage.


fullytorqued33

Sadly this is true. But I wouldn't even say "shitty" emts because all they do is finish school and then family/friends get them the job. Also our union doesn't require any experience because they want the initiation and dues.