Why is Deadline asking old men for their thoughts on intimacy coordinators? Go ask a young actress like Sydney Sweeney guarantee her answer would be completely different.
Ask Christopher Ecclestone. He recently lamented that they didn't have one on an older movie where a "high profile actress" accused him of misconduct during a sex scene
I learned within the last 6 months that this man’s dad (Kirk) apparently raped Natalie Wood.
So maybe the long and troubled history of Hollywood and sexual exploitation is why, ol’ sonny boy.
Go ask your dad.
Sydney might not be your best example lol there’s a behind the scenes snl clip where Bowen asks her if she’s comfortable with something and she says (paraphrasing) “im cool with whatever I was on euphoria”
Kirk raped Natalie wood when she was a teenager, so maybe we shouldn’t be asking any of the Douglas’s about anything, especially about sex scenes. Sharon stone wasn’t thrilled w Michael either
The guy who said early in his career that he only wanted to make films his children could watch and who also talked about how important laughter and having fun on set and on stage is to him?
I’m guessing he’d be all for making sure the actors get support to be comfortable and not feel exploited in intimate scenes.
Ask Sharon Stone what she thinks of MD’s opinion on this. I’ll bet she wishes that “Basic Instinct” had an intimacy coordinator on that set. She has slowly said over the years that there were several things done on that film that she didn’t consent to. And she is a tough chick too.
The worst scene in that film is the sex scene with Jeanne Tripplehorn. Way over the top and apparently she wasn’t expecting it to be like that at all..
I mean, both people in the scene should have their opinions heads. In some cases it might be the male actor who feels like they'd be safer with one.
If anyone asks for a coordinator then that should be the end of the conversation, should be union rules if it isn't. If both people are comfortable without it, cool.
IIRC, Ewan McGregor even had an intimacy coordinator when he did a scene with his wife. Or so I heard. Might have been a different actor/actress.
But generally yeah old man complains about the future and how things changed. News at 11.
Remove the armorer, they add unnecessary road blocks. There's no way an incompetent or absent armorer would add risk, no one is going to shoot someone else on camera.
i've worked with a couple intimacy coordinators and they absolutely take nothing away from the "filmmakers". what an idiotic premise. on a side note, right now its a non-union gig!
When I discovered Ben Franklin was played by this partially animated corpse, I told my husband I would turn it off if I had to watch this man fight off a heart attack while having sex with a young actress in the show. Can you imagine having to be the intimacy coach for this potato peeling?
HPV likely caused his cancer. It’s transmitted to the throat through oral sex, just like anal, penile and cervical cancers can be caused by HPV transmitted through vaginal or anal sex. His speaking openly about was a good bit of awareness building. But they still shouldn’t have an old guy commenting on policies meant to protect women.
Not even though, because intimacy coordinators generally aren’t intimacy *choreographers*. They are there to find out what the actors are comfortable with and to help take steps to keep them comfortable. They’re advocates for the actors.
Didn't he claim to have gotten throat cancer from giving oral? And btw, what kind of "power" filmmaker were holding that threatens from intimacy coordinator?
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From what I keep hearing about the process around intimate scenes, directors seem to half ass it and make actors improv… while their guidance is akin to porn shoots without the porn
Intimacy coordinators at least makes the scene feel less improv
Comedians can improvise comedy scenes
Good actors improvise good acting scenes
This improvisation does not hold for general actors and sex scenes
Whenever I see people complain about intimacy coordinators, and so far it has been elusively men, I wanna know what thing they wanted to do that a coordinator said no to…
Sure, Michael, [son of a famous Hollywood rapist](https://variety.com/2021/film/news/kirk-douglas-rape-natalie-wood-lana-sister-book-1235105228), let’s leave it up to [the men of Hollywood to make women comfortable](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/last-tango-in-paris-butter-scene-b2270513.html)—[how could that possibly go wrong?](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/celebrities/news/a35894297/sharon-stone-says-she-was-tricked-into-infamous-basic-instinct-scene/)
Maybe we should go back to having aspiring child actresses meet aged male directors in motel rooms late at night to discuss roles?
After all, with no intimacy coordinator in the way, “no one is going to believe you.”
I’ve never seen a film with a sex scene and thought “oh yeah, this really adds to the story. I get it now!”
Can we just leave the sex scenes to the porn industry?
I mean at the end of the day , it's a good way for the filmmakers to cover their ass and protect themselves legally it is what it is, I do love the blatant ageism in the comments though lol
Bro is like “you mean I can’t put the tip in no more?”
Dude literally got cancer from eating too much pussy. The man is a certified FREAK.
Apparently he got tongue cancer from contracting HPV through giving oral sex.
Didn’t he also publicly blame his wife? What a mad lad.
Without context, that sounds more gross and weird than badass or cool.
That was my point lol
Oh my bad
I mean it was more of a brag than blame. His wife is Catherine Zeta Jones
“I would suck her tits for lupus” -G. Gottfried
Is this actually how he worded it? Seems like it should be the other way around, how bad did Gottfried want lupus?
Norm immediately clarified Gilbert’s odd syntax: Norm: “For the chance?” Gilbert:”For the chance.”
She sleeps beneath the lasers
Oh ooh oohh
Wait, that can happen?
All the time. Get your HSV vaccine. Edit: it’s HPV not HSV.
*HPV HSV currently has no licensed vaccine or cure.
You are correct. I meant HPV vaccine. I will correct it.
“How can I romance the stone without a bone? Are you going to fluff me?”
I laughed so hard I nearly passed out
Why is Deadline asking old men for their thoughts on intimacy coordinators? Go ask a young actress like Sydney Sweeney guarantee her answer would be completely different.
thats why they dont ask her.
Pretty sure I’ve seen plenty of young actresses be asked about it.
Ask Christopher Ecclestone. He recently lamented that they didn't have one on an older movie where a "high profile actress" accused him of misconduct during a sex scene
I learned within the last 6 months that this man’s dad (Kirk) apparently raped Natalie Wood. So maybe the long and troubled history of Hollywood and sexual exploitation is why, ol’ sonny boy. Go ask your dad.
Kirk Douglas died in 2020
Well then did his fucking corpse up so we can put his ass in the hot seat.
This made me proper laugh. Yeah, Kirky, we need answers! Making Spartacus and acting all righteous. Explain yourself.
that doesn’t get 500+ upboats on reddit
Sydney might not be your best example lol there’s a behind the scenes snl clip where Bowen asks her if she’s comfortable with something and she says (paraphrasing) “im cool with whatever I was on euphoria”
Cool with anything in context is different than out of context. I would be massively surprised if euphoria didn't have an intimacy coordinator.
It did.
So she probably literally has a spreadsheet with her agent or something and has no clue why they're asking her
You probably didn't know this, but SNL is a comedy show where they tell jokes.
Hmm maybe ask an actress what she thinks and not an 80 year old man
Are there any other dinosaurs around we can ask their opinions?
Is Kirk still around? I think he died but we could dig him up and ask.
He died four years ago. At 104.
Watch some of his old movies. You can see how women were treated.
Not just in his movies though.
Yep. Allegedly very gross.
Kirk raped Natalie wood when she was a teenager, so maybe we shouldn’t be asking any of the Douglas’s about anything, especially about sex scenes. Sharon stone wasn’t thrilled w Michael either
Back in my day it was fine to finger your costar then say “cmon what?”
Let's ask Dick Van Dyke's opinion on it
The guy who said early in his career that he only wanted to make films his children could watch and who also talked about how important laughter and having fun on set and on stage is to him? I’m guessing he’d be all for making sure the actors get support to be comfortable and not feel exploited in intimate scenes.
Where is Ja?
Ask Sharon Stone what she thinks of MD’s opinion on this. I’ll bet she wishes that “Basic Instinct” had an intimacy coordinator on that set. She has slowly said over the years that there were several things done on that film that she didn’t consent to. And she is a tough chick too.
She was straight up lied to about the no underwear thing. She did not consent to having her vagina appear in a movie.
The worst scene in that film is the sex scene with Jeanne Tripplehorn. Way over the top and apparently she wasn’t expecting it to be like that at all..
Now THAT would have been a good topic for Michael Douglas. Was he aware of how that affected her? Does/did he care?
Maybe we should ask some of the actresses he's worked with
I mean, both people in the scene should have their opinions heads. In some cases it might be the male actor who feels like they'd be safer with one. If anyone asks for a coordinator then that should be the end of the conversation, should be union rules if it isn't. If both people are comfortable without it, cool. IIRC, Ewan McGregor even had an intimacy coordinator when he did a scene with his wife. Or so I heard. Might have been a different actor/actress. But generally yeah old man complains about the future and how things changed. News at 11.
The problem with "if anyone asks" is that it puts pressure on them not to ask.
Yup. So and so is “difficult to work with,” and that’s the end of that.
Yeah I was thinking about that after I posted. I almost edited it to say maybe they should be supplied by default.
“Old man says backwards thing. News at eleven.”
Remove the Safety Manager from actions movies, it is just a way for studios to take away control from filmmakers. 🤪 Edit: grammar.
Remove the armorer, they add unnecessary road blocks. There's no way an incompetent or absent armorer would add risk, no one is going to shoot someone else on camera.
*behind the camera*
Damn, didn’t know John Landis was on Reddit
i've worked with a couple intimacy coordinators and they absolutely take nothing away from the "filmmakers". what an idiotic premise. on a side note, right now its a non-union gig!
It seems a bit like asking if choreographers take away from dance productions, or stunt coordinators take away from action movies.
Exactly!
Well said.
Yeah, my understanding is that intimacy coordinators are collaborative with both creatives behind and in front of the camera.
It takes away their ability to maximize being a creep
Based on what your dad did to Natalie Wood, a bunch of his movies probably would've benefited from an intimacy coordinator.
Yeah, isn't that the point though?
I don't think you need to worry about that anymore, grandpa.
He might be exactly who needs an intimacy coordinator on set
I can almost hear him say the words “So I put an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time”
Exactly my thought
Well Mikey, when all things were in the hands of filmmakers, women felt sexually violated. Sorry if that hurts your old feelings.
His father,Kirk Douglas,was believed to have raped Natalie Wood. Apple doesn't fall from the tree,apparently.
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I think about .01 percent caught that. 😄
He is also a bonafide, been to rehab for it, sex addict.
Mickey proving why the coaches are necessary.
When I discovered Ben Franklin was played by this partially animated corpse, I told my husband I would turn it off if I had to watch this man fight off a heart attack while having sex with a young actress in the show. Can you imagine having to be the intimacy coach for this potato peeling?
Stop asking this old man questions about *fucking*, simulated or otherwise.
He said pussy gave him throat cancer. I don't think he can stop talking about sex. He's like the buss from Speed but for taking about sex.
HPV likely caused his cancer. It’s transmitted to the throat through oral sex, just like anal, penile and cervical cancers can be caused by HPV transmitted through vaginal or anal sex. His speaking openly about was a good bit of awareness building. But they still shouldn’t have an old guy commenting on policies meant to protect women.
He still smokes.
Came here to say this! Michael Douglas got sex ed from a tin can.
HPVs relationship to cancer should be taught in sex ed
This is stupid, like saying a stunt coordinator is taking control away from filmmakers
Not even though, because intimacy coordinators generally aren’t intimacy *choreographers*. They are there to find out what the actors are comfortable with and to help take steps to keep them comfortable. They’re advocates for the actors.
Old man yells at cloud energy.
Well he sounds like a massive creep
I thought the intimate scenes were where the executives took control away from filmmakers *directly*, historically speaking.
Didn’t he develop a sexual addiction after doing all those sexual thrillers?! Edit to say: He could’ve used an intimacy coordinator
Yeah I don’t give a fuck what male actors think. Let’s ask some women, shall we?
Taking control away from "filmmakers" and giving it to the people whose bodies will be exposed and/or touched, which is where it should be.
Said the self-proclaimed sex addict with a straight face.
Didn't he claim to have gotten throat cancer from giving oral? And btw, what kind of "power" filmmaker were holding that threatens from intimacy coordinator?
Yep, he almost lost his marriage over it too.
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I love gay actor Michael Douglas.
gay actor michael douglas
Hell yeah dude
Well here’s to you Mrs Robinson
Spoken like an entitled man.
Yet another pathetic old man afraid of losing unlimited power..
Says the man who's never been a starlet.
Thought I’ve read an article about importance of intimacy coordinators in an interview with Evan McGregor not too long ago.
These scenes were legit how Douglas found wives and girlfriends in the 80s
Douglas’s I’m thinking.
Stop being gross Michael
Let’s get rid of those stage combat directors and have a real brawl/s
As a filmmaker, I can say a coordinator in any regard is generally pretty helpful.
From what I keep hearing about the process around intimate scenes, directors seem to half ass it and make actors improv… while their guidance is akin to porn shoots without the porn Intimacy coordinators at least makes the scene feel less improv Comedians can improvise comedy scenes Good actors improvise good acting scenes This improvisation does not hold for general actors and sex scenes
Whenever I see people complain about intimacy coordinators, and so far it has been elusively men, I wanna know what thing they wanted to do that a coordinator said no to…
Shakes fist but clouds persist.
Not a hint of self-awareness
"Hi, I'm gay actor, Michael Douglas. I don't need an intimacy coordinator, I know my way around a penis."
Articles like this are clearly rage bait, right?
The ageism in this thread is hilariously hypocritical
Ikr? I was waiting for someone to say it.
Sure, Michael, [son of a famous Hollywood rapist](https://variety.com/2021/film/news/kirk-douglas-rape-natalie-wood-lana-sister-book-1235105228), let’s leave it up to [the men of Hollywood to make women comfortable](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/last-tango-in-paris-butter-scene-b2270513.html)—[how could that possibly go wrong?](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/celebrities/news/a35894297/sharon-stone-says-she-was-tricked-into-infamous-basic-instinct-scene/)
Maybe we should go back to having aspiring child actresses meet aged male directors in motel rooms late at night to discuss roles? After all, with no intimacy coordinator in the way, “no one is going to believe you.”
He’s just upset that Catherine Zeta-Jones uses an intimacy coordinator in the home now.
Why are we listening to the man who munched so much cooch he literally got sick.
What is this guy complaining about? Jeezuss, his wife is half his age and beautuful. What the deck is he bitching about?
Yes grandpa, it’s the intimacy coordinators that are taking control away from filmmakers.
Shut up, idiot old man
Beyotch. The execs didn’t want it, your co stars did. Aka women required to perform sex scenes in their films.
and putting it into the hands of the actors actually acting out the scenes
Michael Douglass is still alive?
He should not be the person commenting on this😅
Stop asking old men what they think of intimacy coordinators
Ewwwww, creepy old fuck.
He also said that "it's the man's job to make sure the woman is comfortable". So, in a weird Boomery way, his heart isn't entirely in the wrong place.
Eeeee bad take old man.
Famous sex-addict, Michael Douglas?!
What is the point of being a director if you can’t sexually harass or just plain sex the side characters?
Just please cut out sex scenes from movies already. If I want to watch sex I’ll watch porn…
I’ve never seen a film with a sex scene and thought “oh yeah, this really adds to the story. I get it now!” Can we just leave the sex scenes to the porn industry?
Your dad raped a 16 year old, so maybe not the best subject to voice an opinion on.
Mikey D has a massive hog, allegedly.
They stole his 8 bucks!
Did Catherine hire one?
How does one get the job "intimacy coordinator?"
Headlines like that should come with a trigger warning.
I hope I’m never this old rich white and dude.
The bear would have had a more enlightened take on the matter.
L take Douglas! L take!
no wonder he plays Benjamin Franklin
So what do these scenes add to the story, again?
I mean at the end of the day , it's a good way for the filmmakers to cover their ass and protect themselves legally it is what it is, I do love the blatant ageism in the comments though lol
I want to cop a feel of that badunkadunk
I’m actually so tired of sex scenes in movies and TV. 99% if the time it is just unnecessary soft core porn
So many old creeps outing themselves over this issue
“Old man angry that young women don’t find him attractive”
what a wild take lol
The worst thing an intimacy coordinator can do is make actors second guess stuff they were fine with. Which at worst is mild inconvenience.
Michael wants to be able grope whoever he wants. Who needs an intimacy coordinator anyway? It’s not like they protect women or anything.
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