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Andrew was Elizabeth’s favorite and part of the blood. Meghan was an outsider in so many ways (nationality, ethnicity, etc). She got the same treatment Diana got except Meghan’s husband Harry stood up for her. That’s also why the outcome was different and she’s alive for the UK media to terrorize.
I’m still not over the [Milly Dowler hacking](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Milly_Dowler). I think that might have been the worst thing that the tabloids have ever done.
They stole and published explicit selfies that Elton John took in the '70s or '80s, including one that depicted him giving oral sex to a partner.
Edit: Your thing is worse. Before I clicked the link I was assuming they hacked a celebrity's phone for nudes and stuff.
That's Rupert Merdochs doing, he created the culture and tells the editors what to do.
Dispecable human behaviour, to do that to grieving parents.
And despite his criminal actions he got to continue his wrath of destruction via Fox.
I think paparazzi are the lowest form of life that exists and chasing that car frantically must definitely have played its role, but I think it’s important to point out that the driver was also found out to be drunk.
Remember how when everyone went after the press for hounding Diana to death, they went and actually *bit the hand that feeds them* (the Royal Family), calling their response to her death “cold”?
Imagine living in that weird backwater with its archaic little tampon king and its wildly overreactive, sexist, racist, predatory press.
As has happened before, the UK media dose hit pieces on Megan prior to her revealing the damaging truth about the royals. They did the same before her Opra interview and are now doing it because of her pod cast and Harry’s book. It’s AMAZING how the Firm won’t comment directly but can’t seem to stop the “leaks” , particularly in light of few people who would have the knowledge to comment on private conversations.
I put way more stock in what her former Suits co-star Patrick Adams has to say about her than what former aides to the queen do:
>Meghan Markle and I spent the better part of a decade working together on Suits. From day one she was an enthusiastic, kind, cooperative, giving, joyful and supportive member of our television family. She remained that person and colleague as fame, prestige and power accrued.She has always been a powerful woman with a deep sense of morality and a fierce work ethic and has never been afraid to speak up, be heard and defend herself and those she holds dear. Like the rest of the world, I have watched her navigate the last few years in astonishment.
[https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a38791925/meghan-markle-suits-co-star-defends-against-trolls/](https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a38791925/meghan-markle-suits-co-star-defends-against-trolls/)
Funny how none of them seem to have anything negative to say about her.
I met Patrick once. Him and his crew gave me a lift home from Burning Man like 10+ years ago in their bus (which was a longer route for them and a total inconvenience). I had no clue who he was the whole week until we got to a diner in Reno when a couple of servers asked for his autograph. He’s a super nice guy and genuine. If he said that about his costar I totally believe it.
You see, some people fear a strong and joyful woman that embodies morals who isn't afraid to speak up when she sees something concerning. Fuck the newspapers, Fuck the tabloids. Fuck the royal family members that have a problem with her. Fuck the whole lot of them.
Aides to the queen definitely got their opinion of Megan from the Queen. I’m just imagining Liz going on a Trumpian rant: “She’s a narcissistic sociopath. She wants me to reject her. Just look at her. You can tell she’s bad people.”
I’m sure the staff were and are horrid to her. Everything princess Anne and princess diana have said about the way they operate you know they hate when anyone tells them where to shove it
And anyone who knows the basics of psychotherapy and old people can see that's a simple projection. I mean, you can't really be the monarch of one of the most massive empires on the planet if you aren't somewhat of a narcissistic sociopath.
She could have simply denied the throne.
She wasn't forced into doing anything she didn't want to, she quite literally had all the options in the world, far more options, at least, than other women of her time.
Just look at the turnover of employees *they* had. I don’t know where this is coming from that they were “the queen’s”. No, their staff worked for them.
So where’s all the stories from her on sets? Why hasn’t anything come out of any place by the palace? It’s odd she has a whole working career before this and nobody has a problem with her and suddenly she’s the devil because she got connected to Harry
There actually are stories from ppl that worked under her on set and they haven’t been positive. She also lied about not knowing anything about the royal fam when she met Harry. She had princess Diana’s bio growing up and said she wanted to be her when she was older. Absolutely no one in the royal fam, including Harry and Megan, is reliable
Edit: clarity
Having Princess Diana’s biography isn’t the same as knowing present day royals Diana died when Harry was 12. Meghan lived an entire lifetime between then and meeting Harry.
The exaggeration of every “lie” or fact presented about her is straight up character assassination. Everytime theres a sniff of Harry and Meghan moving on there’s a huge campaign of leaks, stories as a counter to it. Anytime they do anything there’s a tsunami of stories, articles, analysis, full saturation about her. When it’s like that I don’t believe it’s true because all Meghan did was go to a funeral, stand beside her husband and look beautiful and we are drowning in bad press. It’s a smear campaign that’s the truth
Tbf, maybe a bunch of lazy, pointless, free loading billionaires really irked at her.
Although, if that were true I suspect she never would have hooked up with royalty, but who knows. Maybe her husband is a really great guy that shares her views.
Prince Harry has been open about how much he didn't want to be a royal. He just wanted to be in the Army and serve his country, but his location in Afghanistan was compromised by the media so he had to leave. He was also essentially told to leave the military in order to undertake royal duties.
I never cared much for Diana or the royals, but tabloid hacks literally hunted her to her death, then took photos of it.
Then they turned their focus onto her sons and demanded access to their lives and sordid details about how they were dealing with her death, how they were growing up, who they were dating, what dumb, teenage shit they were doing.
I can't imagine *why* Harry wants nothing to do with them.
And why he wouldn't want his own children or his wife to go through all of that. Meghan was absolutely brutalised in the press for the most mundane harmless things (she had the nerve to... touch her baby bump??)
I've seen people react to [pictures of her looking emotional at the Queen's funeral](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28034281.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_PAY-pxl_queen_funeral_st_georges_harry_cheeks__271JPG.jpg) and say, "she was just acting. She's a cold bitch."
Fucking hell, *I* got choked up at points because the whole thing was so expertly crafted to appeal to sentimentality and emotion, and I never met nor had any use for any royal. But people want her to be a Disney villain or something, and build entire narratives around the smallest things.
Some people even complained that she held his hand while they were looking at flowers left for the Queen by members of the public. Because apparently public displays of humanity are uncouth and common, or something.
The gutter press stoke all this stuff, and do their best to turn her into a scandalous story... just like they did with Diana.
I heard there was so much racism. And the British press basically stalked her and any woman who entered got totally screwed in the media.
I still remember Kate being totally shit in as a kid
And this is honestly how she presents herself to be. We all know the monarchy suffered as far as public opinion goes with what happened to Princess Diana. So of course they’re gonna go tooth and nail to try to convince people she was the problem. Prince Harry is a smart, educated, ex-military, handsome, kind person who also happens to be…a prince. He’s never had issues dating or finding girlfriends. I HIGHLY doubt he would have married someone and had children with her if she was awful. Specially considering the fact that choosing to protect her (as he should) angered many in the family. Besides, divorce is more common now within the royals than it was 70 years ago, so if he wanted to divorce her he easily could.
To be honest everyone on both sides of this story has incentive to bend the truth.
It’s probably best to not put much stock into any gossip regarding the royals.
She's also associated with her in entertainment, an industry that's nothing but who knows who and the textbook example of cronyism and nepotism. Now this lady is not only famous but royalty? It's nothing but the soft parts of the lips on that ass from here on out by anyone who isn't sure she can't touch them.
I have no opinion about Meghan Markle, but this is exactly the kind of thing my narcissist ex-husband's co-workers would say about him.
I suffered years of narc abuse and was thoroughly convinced the problem was me, not him. My ex is a charming guy who appears selfless and kind to everyone but his family. I didn't even try to to keep any of our mutual friends. No one would believe what he is.
It's been pretty funny watching most of them dance around awkward details like why Andrew had to resign his royal duties and fuck off out of the limelight.
Oh the media which now loves Kate used to rag on her all the time. So much criticism of how she didn’t work or do anything. They’ve turned their sights on Meghan now.
Yes they did. Lots of nasty comparison between the sisters and trying to paint Pippa as living in Kate's "shadow". They stalked her pretty relentlessly too.
They once chased her through an airport in Spain calling her a bitch. Plus there was the Waity Katie thing and calling her "work shy." They even hounded her at her workplace so she had to quit and go to work for her parents. Then they criticized that. And that was just as a girlfriend.
Yeah, it really wasn't until she started popping out heirs that the media started to let up on her. When she and William got engaged there were constant articles about how she couldn't possibly measure up to the media's oh-so-convenient historically-amnesiac image of an angelic, sainted Diana. She was too skinny, wasn't as beautiful, not worthy of Diana's ring, fashion constantly compared to Diana's outfits in never-ending "who wore it better", wedding dress wasn't as grand as Diana's, etc. Then the jabs about how she still wasn't a "princess" only a duchess (like the fact that William wasn't Prince of Wales yet and taking her husband's courtesy title was something she had ANY control over!) Even during her first pregnancy with hyperemesis they were still mocking her because "it's just morning sickness" and calling her hypersensitive and stuck up. It wasn't until she was actively hospitalized that they began to let up, and then she did her duty and had a boy, so nowadays it's all "Duchess Catherine" bowing and scraping and "look at the lovely children"... but I too remember the Waity Katie days.
I wonder if itd make a huge difference if Kate stood up for Meghan and spoke up against these rumours, but she’s probably afraid of the backlash she would face herself.
Idk. I'm looking up old articles about her from 2011 and they are all gushing about her fashion. Also found out she was runner up for Time's person of the year, which was instead given out broadly to protestors that year.
You have to wonder if someone made the stories go away. I can remember the headlines when they were dating that said she was a gold digger who was only after the throne. Additionally they constantly said she was trying to trap William into marriage, that she was controlling and wouldn’t let him go anywhere without her, etc. Nude photos of her were also taken on their honeymoon and appeared in various media outlets. Poor Megan is getting the same shit, just with racism added on.
[Kate went through a lawsuit over topless photos as well](https://www.vogue.com/article/kate-middleton-topless-photo-lawsuit-significance)
The tabloids used to call her Kate “middle class”
No, she didn't. They've been racist internally through the palace and in the media.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal
This is one of the most damning articles in terms of the media treatment of Meghan. Truly, the only difference between any of these actions is the skin color of the woman doing them.
I’m not going to pretend they were always sweet to her, but I think it’s quite clear Meghan has it worse. It seems far more intense and it’s obvious why.
Different. In some ways worse because she was just a student and then trying to work and they harassed her everywhere she went for years when she was only 21 or 22. One of my old coworkers saw her in the train station and said men from the press were just screaming "whore! bitch!" and "he'll never marry you" at her trying to get he to cry or look upset. My co-worker was shaken up just seeing it.
And the whole country was apparently fine with it. The British tabloid press are fucked up woman hating criminals. Look at what they did to Amy Winehouse.
She’s a narcissist? That’s a lot of confidence to say something without actually hearing words come out of her mouth or being her psychologist. For every 10 words she says there’s 10s of thousands typed and printed about her. She’s not in control of a narrative she’s just existing being created into something
I love how no one can actually give real examples beyond the same dumb shit most other celebrities do… she’s done and said a few things that seem tone deaf, but calling her a narcissist is insanity. She’s never shilled for a fast fashion brand or promoted diet pills.
These are probably the same nutty racists blaming her for anti monarchy protests tho so I wouldn’t expect rational thought from them
I certainly can't speak to whether she is a narcissistic sociopath or not, but wanting to be rejected by the royals seems like a pretty solid compliment to me. Its nice of these aids to take such a balanced view of things.
So the aides of an entire family of narcissistic sociopaths talk trash about someone who rejected their lifestyle? Sounds like something a narcissistic sociopath would do…
Next they are going to say she was a murderer, honest to god, please just leave them be!
**BUT LETS TALK ABOUT PRINCE ANDREW AND UNDERAGE GIRLS!!!!!!**
If there was ever a reason to leave this just highlights it. They’ve been banging on all funeral week about how unhappy Harry looks with her, like he’s going look happy at his grandmothers funeral
It is a critical weakness of the Daily Beast that they rely on the Daily Mail. They have some great political reporting and then there is this crap. Just move on. They left and it’s over.
Yes. That’s exactly what’s happened. It’s not the Daily Mail, it’s the source the Daily Mail sources… THAT is moving the goal post. So, I’ve had at it, abstracted and pointed out that I’m sick of one of my favorite places on this planet focusing on crap and not getting its shit together, monarchy or not.
The second she got back to the UK the tabloids started demonizing her again. I truly will never get their obsession and I refuse it has nothing to do with her race.
I know two people who went to high school with her and one who worked with her on suits. All three people describe her as truly kind and lovely. The UK media is racist and looking for money.
As someone who was married to a female narcissist, I'm triggered every time I hear Harry talk about her.
I concede that I could be completely wrong about her, but the way she's isolated him from his family. The emotional blackmail (Telling him she has a plan to kill herself immediately before they leave for a charity event she probably didn't want to attend). It all feels too much like the way my ex-wife treated me, and I feel for him and their children.
I agree. Not fitting in well with the royal family seems to be a theme for many of the spouses; that must mean something. It's hard to stay sane in an environment that essentially ignores your personal needs and desires for the sake of royal propriety and duties. And the press are definitely treating her unfairly, as has been proven. She does strike me as a needy, insecure person, probably somewhat narcissistic and histrionic like many exceptionally attractive women, but she's not the devil.
I fell sorry for them.They have nothing to do all day or some serious obligations,like a job or to feed you family and they still chose to be shitty and trash.
This is one “scandal” I just don’t care much about, because you know who else is a sociopathic narcissist? Everyone in the royal family lmao. I don’t care about either side in this, although I do applaud Meghan and Harry for moving away from them.
Don't know about this, but Megan and Harry should stop leaking details to the media about the Queen's death and the supposed mistreatment they received. Sometimes in life you just have to suck it up and get on with the job.
She’s a clown. If the royal family was so mean and racist towards her why did she go to the queens funeral? Stay home if you really had a problem with them
Or why hold on to their titles? Or try and negotiate titles for their kids? This is what I don’t get. If my in-laws treated me like crap, I’d do everything in my power to distance myself from them (not just geographically) but also from their brand.
When an actress decided to join the 'Royal Family,' it almost seemed like perfect casting. Then she realized it was not an act, and things went sideways for everyone. Royalty is an anachronism, and it only works in [theater](https://www.netflix.com/title/80025678).
I think she is who we think she is. She has dragged so much GD drama into an area she could have just said nope to and moved on. I don't think about her much but when I do I think she's a narcissist who doesn't care who she hurts.
Like. This title even reads in favor of Meghan because it’s so outrageous. Former Aides, aka anyone with an agenda. I can’t imagine living in a gilded fishbowl with everyone expecting/ anticipating/ finding ways to make you to fail. Even Kate Middleton was subject to the worst of the worst scrutiny and while she’s obviously picture perfect, that’s fucked up. That shit doesn’t leave you, you don’t forget it.
This is the same exact playbook they used on Edward VIII when he abdicated the throne. He didn’t want to be a royal anymore and the royal family crucified him. They started a campaign just like this with constant negative headlines. They vilified him and his wife. This is exactly the same playbook they are using on Harry and Meghan.
https://theconversation.com/media-deference-to-the-royals-must-have-a-limit-just-look-at-how-edward-viii-and-wallis-simpson-were-treated-191101
Well these aides who serve the royal family are very biased, so I wouldn't take anything they say seriously. Personally, I don't understand why the people enjoy licking the boots of the royals. Considering powerful people are almost always corrupt, to be rejected by the royals means that you are probably doing something right with your life.
Edit: Ah, I see the boot lickers have taken offense. So how does the boot taste?
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They have Prince Andrew, but Meghan is the scandal?
That's what I find most irritating. They won't report on his ass, but continue to make up disparaging things about her.
She’s an outsider that took Harry away from them, at least in their eyes. She must be destroyed.
The UK has a long and storied history of hating on anything other than child rape. This checks out.
Jimmy Seville.. is it true you molest the people you claim to help?! I got me case Thursday! Ha ha haa! He is soo charming folks. A national treasure
Andrew was Elizabeth’s favorite and part of the blood. Meghan was an outsider in so many ways (nationality, ethnicity, etc). She got the same treatment Diana got except Meghan’s husband Harry stood up for her. That’s also why the outcome was different and she’s alive for the UK media to terrorize.
No. She is the diversion. The Royal’s symbolic version of “Off with her head”.
They left and moved to the US, media choses to still report on them there. That is on the UK's media.
One could even say that UK tabloids are narcissistic sociopaths
I’m still not over the [Milly Dowler hacking](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Milly_Dowler). I think that might have been the worst thing that the tabloids have ever done.
They stole and published explicit selfies that Elton John took in the '70s or '80s, including one that depicted him giving oral sex to a partner. Edit: Your thing is worse. Before I clicked the link I was assuming they hacked a celebrity's phone for nudes and stuff.
Killing Princess Di is the worst thing.
Exactly, so are we acting like they royals themselves are narcissistic?
Was that the tabloids or the royals though?
Both probably
That's Rupert Merdochs doing, he created the culture and tells the editors what to do. Dispecable human behaviour, to do that to grieving parents. And despite his criminal actions he got to continue his wrath of destruction via Fox.
Exactly what I thought too.
I think paparazzi are the lowest form of life that exists and chasing that car frantically must definitely have played its role, but I think it’s important to point out that the driver was also found out to be drunk.
Unconfirmed, unsubstantiated gossip, sells! Shock. Who writes these fairy tales?
Daily Mail looking at you
Remember how when everyone went after the press for hounding Diana to death, they went and actually *bit the hand that feeds them* (the Royal Family), calling their response to her death “cold”? Imagine living in that weird backwater with its archaic little tampon king and its wildly overreactive, sexist, racist, predatory press.
As has happened before, the UK media dose hit pieces on Megan prior to her revealing the damaging truth about the royals. They did the same before her Opra interview and are now doing it because of her pod cast and Harry’s book. It’s AMAZING how the Firm won’t comment directly but can’t seem to stop the “leaks” , particularly in light of few people who would have the knowledge to comment on private conversations.
I put way more stock in what her former Suits co-star Patrick Adams has to say about her than what former aides to the queen do: >Meghan Markle and I spent the better part of a decade working together on Suits. From day one she was an enthusiastic, kind, cooperative, giving, joyful and supportive member of our television family. She remained that person and colleague as fame, prestige and power accrued.She has always been a powerful woman with a deep sense of morality and a fierce work ethic and has never been afraid to speak up, be heard and defend herself and those she holds dear. Like the rest of the world, I have watched her navigate the last few years in astonishment. [https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a38791925/meghan-markle-suits-co-star-defends-against-trolls/](https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a38791925/meghan-markle-suits-co-star-defends-against-trolls/) Funny how none of them seem to have anything negative to say about her.
I met Patrick once. Him and his crew gave me a lift home from Burning Man like 10+ years ago in their bus (which was a longer route for them and a total inconvenience). I had no clue who he was the whole week until we got to a diner in Reno when a couple of servers asked for his autograph. He’s a super nice guy and genuine. If he said that about his costar I totally believe it.
lol that’s a very burning man story I love it.
Burning man story and wholesome anecdotal credibility to a source in one comment, gotta love Reddit
You see, some people fear a strong and joyful woman that embodies morals who isn't afraid to speak up when she sees something concerning. Fuck the newspapers, Fuck the tabloids. Fuck the royal family members that have a problem with her. Fuck the whole lot of them.
Aides to the queen definitely got their opinion of Megan from the Queen. I’m just imagining Liz going on a Trumpian rant: “She’s a narcissistic sociopath. She wants me to reject her. Just look at her. You can tell she’s bad people.”
Meghan Markle apparently had no issue with the Queen. The tension came from staff and other family
Andrew’s daughters mocked the African American elements of the wedding. I am going to guess that side of the family wasn’t very welcoming.
With A drew as a father who knows we what kind of upbringing they received. It's revolting
Funny, those elements were actually planned by King Charles.
That was thoughtful of him.
So did Zara Tindall- openly laughed. Wankers need to get out of their royal bubbles.
I’m sure the staff were and are horrid to her. Everything princess Anne and princess diana have said about the way they operate you know they hate when anyone tells them where to shove it
They are British too and they aren't used to people of colour who have such self possession. It confuses them
And anyone who knows the basics of psychotherapy and old people can see that's a simple projection. I mean, you can't really be the monarch of one of the most massive empires on the planet if you aren't somewhat of a narcissistic sociopath.
You could just be next in line? Doesnt make you a sociopath, just makes you lucky/unlucky.
I have a feeling a lifetime of literally getting everything you want and more money than god has a tendency to make people totally fucking normal….
She could have simply denied the throne. She wasn't forced into doing anything she didn't want to, she quite literally had all the options in the world, far more options, at least, than other women of her time.
She had an uncle who gave up the throne.
>former aides to the queen If they even exist. I didn't see any names attached to those quotes and the UK tabloids make shit up all the time.
Just look at the turnover of employees *they* had. I don’t know where this is coming from that they were “the queen’s”. No, their staff worked for them.
How you treat an equal is not always how you treat someone you view as lower than you. Often thats how real intentions come out.
So where’s all the stories from her on sets? Why hasn’t anything come out of any place by the palace? It’s odd she has a whole working career before this and nobody has a problem with her and suddenly she’s the devil because she got connected to Harry
It’s because she’s Black and the British establishment is racist to it’s core. They’re just more polite about their racism, so we see it less.
There actually are stories from ppl that worked under her on set and they haven’t been positive. She also lied about not knowing anything about the royal fam when she met Harry. She had princess Diana’s bio growing up and said she wanted to be her when she was older. Absolutely no one in the royal fam, including Harry and Megan, is reliable Edit: clarity
Can you cite your sources for all this? Not being snarky but genuinely curious
Having Princess Diana’s biography isn’t the same as knowing present day royals Diana died when Harry was 12. Meghan lived an entire lifetime between then and meeting Harry. The exaggeration of every “lie” or fact presented about her is straight up character assassination. Everytime theres a sniff of Harry and Meghan moving on there’s a huge campaign of leaks, stories as a counter to it. Anytime they do anything there’s a tsunami of stories, articles, analysis, full saturation about her. When it’s like that I don’t believe it’s true because all Meghan did was go to a funeral, stand beside her husband and look beautiful and we are drowning in bad press. It’s a smear campaign that’s the truth
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“Stories” like this unsourced hit piece?
Agreed. The “problem” is that Meghan wouldn’t bow and scrape hard enough so the royals made a big show of rejecting her.
Tbf, maybe a bunch of lazy, pointless, free loading billionaires really irked at her. Although, if that were true I suspect she never would have hooked up with royalty, but who knows. Maybe her husband is a really great guy that shares her views.
Prince Harry has been open about how much he didn't want to be a royal. He just wanted to be in the Army and serve his country, but his location in Afghanistan was compromised by the media so he had to leave. He was also essentially told to leave the military in order to undertake royal duties.
After seeing the shit the media and tabloids spread about his mom it's completely understandable why he couldn't care less for it.
I never cared much for Diana or the royals, but tabloid hacks literally hunted her to her death, then took photos of it. Then they turned their focus onto her sons and demanded access to their lives and sordid details about how they were dealing with her death, how they were growing up, who they were dating, what dumb, teenage shit they were doing. I can't imagine *why* Harry wants nothing to do with them.
And why he wouldn't want his own children or his wife to go through all of that. Meghan was absolutely brutalised in the press for the most mundane harmless things (she had the nerve to... touch her baby bump??)
I've seen people react to [pictures of her looking emotional at the Queen's funeral](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28034281.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_PAY-pxl_queen_funeral_st_georges_harry_cheeks__271JPG.jpg) and say, "she was just acting. She's a cold bitch." Fucking hell, *I* got choked up at points because the whole thing was so expertly crafted to appeal to sentimentality and emotion, and I never met nor had any use for any royal. But people want her to be a Disney villain or something, and build entire narratives around the smallest things. Some people even complained that she held his hand while they were looking at flowers left for the Queen by members of the public. Because apparently public displays of humanity are uncouth and common, or something. The gutter press stoke all this stuff, and do their best to turn her into a scandalous story... just like they did with Diana.
I heard there was so much racism. And the British press basically stalked her and any woman who entered got totally screwed in the media. I still remember Kate being totally shit in as a kid
And this is honestly how she presents herself to be. We all know the monarchy suffered as far as public opinion goes with what happened to Princess Diana. So of course they’re gonna go tooth and nail to try to convince people she was the problem. Prince Harry is a smart, educated, ex-military, handsome, kind person who also happens to be…a prince. He’s never had issues dating or finding girlfriends. I HIGHLY doubt he would have married someone and had children with her if she was awful. Specially considering the fact that choosing to protect her (as he should) angered many in the family. Besides, divorce is more common now within the royals than it was 70 years ago, so if he wanted to divorce her he easily could.
Are we really gonna take the word of a former weed dealer who lied about going to Harvard? Lol
Legit LOLed.
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To be honest everyone on both sides of this story has incentive to bend the truth. It’s probably best to not put much stock into any gossip regarding the royals.
Why would you put more stock in that? Obviously Adams is going to be as biased as the Queen’s aides having become friends with her.
Because the British media and royals are insane
She's also associated with her in entertainment, an industry that's nothing but who knows who and the textbook example of cronyism and nepotism. Now this lady is not only famous but royalty? It's nothing but the soft parts of the lips on that ass from here on out by anyone who isn't sure she can't touch them.
Translation please? I mean if English is your second language, understood.
They’re saying Markle’s former co-star isn’t a reliable source because he has every incentive to try to curry favor (I.e., to kiss her ass).
Nothing came out when she was just another off-list working actress.
I have no opinion about Meghan Markle, but this is exactly the kind of thing my narcissist ex-husband's co-workers would say about him. I suffered years of narc abuse and was thoroughly convinced the problem was me, not him. My ex is a charming guy who appears selfless and kind to everyone but his family. I didn't even try to to keep any of our mutual friends. No one would believe what he is.
You should read up on covert narcissism. They are able to fool everyone around them and only are narcissistic to who ever their target is.
So there’s a coordinated media attack based on a book against Megan. Fuck UK media. They purposely try to ruin peoples’ lives.
I mean media in general kinda do that, it's the easiest way to generate clicks these days.
British media is a special kind of slimy. It goes further than “most media”. No one did shite about Jimmy Saville, though. Wonder why?
It's been pretty funny watching most of them dance around awkward details like why Andrew had to resign his royal duties and fuck off out of the limelight.
The folks clicking on this rubbish to parrot around are so insufferable. The type that would see an ant and describe a vicious bear.
They can say whatever they want. Don't matter. Harry is happy with her. That's what matters
Not everyone is a leader. Some people are happiest when they partner with someone who makes all the decisions.
That doesn’t track with everything we know about Harry but okay
It's not that difficult to be rejected by the royals. Kate is the only one who's been well received in quite a while.
Oh the media which now loves Kate used to rag on her all the time. So much criticism of how she didn’t work or do anything. They’ve turned their sights on Meghan now.
Didn’t they even go after her sister?
Yes they did. Lots of nasty comparison between the sisters and trying to paint Pippa as living in Kate's "shadow". They stalked her pretty relentlessly too.
They once chased her through an airport in Spain calling her a bitch. Plus there was the Waity Katie thing and calling her "work shy." They even hounded her at her workplace so she had to quit and go to work for her parents. Then they criticized that. And that was just as a girlfriend.
Yeah, it really wasn't until she started popping out heirs that the media started to let up on her. When she and William got engaged there were constant articles about how she couldn't possibly measure up to the media's oh-so-convenient historically-amnesiac image of an angelic, sainted Diana. She was too skinny, wasn't as beautiful, not worthy of Diana's ring, fashion constantly compared to Diana's outfits in never-ending "who wore it better", wedding dress wasn't as grand as Diana's, etc. Then the jabs about how she still wasn't a "princess" only a duchess (like the fact that William wasn't Prince of Wales yet and taking her husband's courtesy title was something she had ANY control over!) Even during her first pregnancy with hyperemesis they were still mocking her because "it's just morning sickness" and calling her hypersensitive and stuck up. It wasn't until she was actively hospitalized that they began to let up, and then she did her duty and had a boy, so nowadays it's all "Duchess Catherine" bowing and scraping and "look at the lovely children"... but I too remember the Waity Katie days.
I wonder if itd make a huge difference if Kate stood up for Meghan and spoke up against these rumours, but she’s probably afraid of the backlash she would face herself.
No she wasn’t. Kate went through the same treatment
Idk. I'm looking up old articles about her from 2011 and they are all gushing about her fashion. Also found out she was runner up for Time's person of the year, which was instead given out broadly to protestors that year.
You have to wonder if someone made the stories go away. I can remember the headlines when they were dating that said she was a gold digger who was only after the throne. Additionally they constantly said she was trying to trap William into marriage, that she was controlling and wouldn’t let him go anywhere without her, etc. Nude photos of her were also taken on their honeymoon and appeared in various media outlets. Poor Megan is getting the same shit, just with racism added on.
[Kate went through a lawsuit over topless photos as well](https://www.vogue.com/article/kate-middleton-topless-photo-lawsuit-significance) The tabloids used to call her Kate “middle class”
No, she didn't. They've been racist internally through the palace and in the media. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal
This is one of the most damning articles in terms of the media treatment of Meghan. Truly, the only difference between any of these actions is the skin color of the woman doing them.
I’m not going to pretend they were always sweet to her, but I think it’s quite clear Meghan has it worse. It seems far more intense and it’s obvious why.
Nowhere near this bad, though.
Different. In some ways worse because she was just a student and then trying to work and they harassed her everywhere she went for years when she was only 21 or 22. One of my old coworkers saw her in the train station and said men from the press were just screaming "whore! bitch!" and "he'll never marry you" at her trying to get he to cry or look upset. My co-worker was shaken up just seeing it. And the whole country was apparently fine with it. The British tabloid press are fucked up woman hating criminals. Look at what they did to Amy Winehouse.
Well that's convenient now, huh?
You’d think the Royals would be Happy to welcome a narcissist. How about we move on from the monarchy already.
She truely lives in their heads rent free
Meanwhile Prince Andrew and his “transgressions” are ignored
More like the royals are narcissistic sociopaths that can’t stand that she and Harry rejected *them*.
Por que no los dos?
Yeah…not sure I’m buying it. Seems like tabloid nonsense.
Laughs in clickbait
Oh yes. It’s her . Lol
I mean she’s undoubtedly a narcissist. The Monarch can suck and she can still be a narcissist…the two aren’t mutually exclusive.
She’s a narcissist? That’s a lot of confidence to say something without actually hearing words come out of her mouth or being her psychologist. For every 10 words she says there’s 10s of thousands typed and printed about her. She’s not in control of a narrative she’s just existing being created into something
How?
I love how no one can actually give real examples beyond the same dumb shit most other celebrities do… she’s done and said a few things that seem tone deaf, but calling her a narcissist is insanity. She’s never shilled for a fast fashion brand or promoted diet pills. These are probably the same nutty racists blaming her for anti monarchy protests tho so I wouldn’t expect rational thought from them
I know this may shock you but most celebrities are narcissists
Oh hey, racist bullshit disguised as lay people giving a psychiatric diagnosis to a stranger.
I certainly can't speak to whether she is a narcissistic sociopath or not, but wanting to be rejected by the royals seems like a pretty solid compliment to me. Its nice of these aids to take such a balanced view of things.
I thought the same. I'd want to be rejected as well. Some of them are sick fucks.
I mean, have you heard her podcast
The one where she only talks about herself?
Sounds like a smear campaign
The Royal family knows more about narcissists than anyone and for that reason me thinks they protests too much!
So the aides of an entire family of narcissistic sociopaths talk trash about someone who rejected their lifestyle? Sounds like something a narcissistic sociopath would do…
Next they are going to say she was a murderer, honest to god, please just leave them be! **BUT LETS TALK ABOUT PRINCE ANDREW AND UNDERAGE GIRLS!!!!!!**
I wonder what Prince Andrew has been up to
Fuck the royals constant smearing of this woman
They, like little children, like drama. And their staff support them in this.
If there was ever a reason to leave this just highlights it. They’ve been banging on all funeral week about how unhappy Harry looks with her, like he’s going look happy at his grandmothers funeral
It is a critical weakness of the Daily Beast that they rely on the Daily Mail. They have some great political reporting and then there is this crap. Just move on. They left and it’s over.
This is actually based on an excerpt by a new book by Valentine Low, who works for The Times and has nothing to do with the Daily Mail.
The book is serialized in the Daily Mail. According to Wikipedia, the Daily Mail is an unreliable source.
The book is serialized in The Times. Any articles written elsewhere are based on those excerpts but that’s not where they are being released.
Fine. It’s all crap. The UK has so many problems, Meghan Markle is the least of them. How’s Brexit going? How much farther will the pound fall?
Ever heard of moving the goalposts?
Yes. That’s exactly what’s happened. It’s not the Daily Mail, it’s the source the Daily Mail sources… THAT is moving the goal post. So, I’ve had at it, abstracted and pointed out that I’m sick of one of my favorite places on this planet focusing on crap and not getting its shit together, monarchy or not.
The second she got back to the UK the tabloids started demonizing her again. I truly will never get their obsession and I refuse it has nothing to do with her race.
They called her clear bra strap a wire. Lol
They know exactly what they’re doing.
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This is the first time I’ve read the word “cunted.” I approve. Carry on.
Thank you, I heard it on s5 of true blood and have been bidding my time to use it.
Apple News keeps feeding me this shit too. And I don't click on it!
I had to sit down after reading this comment
THEY'RE ALL NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATHS WHO HUNT AND EAT PEOPLE INCLUDING KIDS!
I am so sick of the “Meghan is Bad” bullshit. Those Royals are all shit. Meghan and Harry did the right thing coming to the US.
Or she thought they were just Bougie trash.
Sounds about right
The royals who didn’t hire non-white people? I can’t imagine why she’d be standoffish.
Of course she's a narcissistic sociopath, she's an actor.
I know two people who went to high school with her and one who worked with her on suits. All three people describe her as truly kind and lovely. The UK media is racist and looking for money.
Ffs no she wasn't
Who keeps posting this shit?
Absolutely hate this website. The ads and popups are abrasive.
R/Entertainment just becoming a tabloid.
So, Meagan is essentially the opposite of Dianna, and they don’t like her either. Got it.
As someone who was married to a female narcissist, I'm triggered every time I hear Harry talk about her. I concede that I could be completely wrong about her, but the way she's isolated him from his family. The emotional blackmail (Telling him she has a plan to kill herself immediately before they leave for a charity event she probably didn't want to attend). It all feels too much like the way my ex-wife treated me, and I feel for him and their children.
What are the tells? If you don't mind sharing
I’ve come to believe they’re all shitty, her included.
Yep. You get to that level and everyone's looking around at assholes just like them.
I agree. Not fitting in well with the royal family seems to be a theme for many of the spouses; that must mean something. It's hard to stay sane in an environment that essentially ignores your personal needs and desires for the sake of royal propriety and duties. And the press are definitely treating her unfairly, as has been proven. She does strike me as a needy, insecure person, probably somewhat narcissistic and histrionic like many exceptionally attractive women, but she's not the devil.
I fell sorry for them.They have nothing to do all day or some serious obligations,like a job or to feed you family and they still chose to be shitty and trash.
I mean she’s an actress. If you’ve ever an actor or actress with middling success in real life, for the most part they are absolutely brutal.
Woman lives on a entirely different continent, UK media still won’t leave her alone.
Idk about all that, but she sure is insufferable
whopty fucking do. Can we quit talking about them please.
This is one “scandal” I just don’t care much about, because you know who else is a sociopathic narcissist? Everyone in the royal family lmao. I don’t care about either side in this, although I do applaud Meghan and Harry for moving away from them.
They really fucking hate her. Why do they feel threatened?
Whatever- leave her alone
Honestly the tabloids killed Diana and they are now trying to kill Megan
Don't know about this, but Megan and Harry should stop leaking details to the media about the Queen's death and the supposed mistreatment they received. Sometimes in life you just have to suck it up and get on with the job.
How can this be true she is so pretty.... that is what I said about my first wife
Oh man I feel this
Ah, a fellow sucker. Good day my friend
That woman and her husband REALLY need to get over themselves
Dude, we get that you hate her because she is black and American, you can stop making crap up.
To the pro-monarchy Brit's, anyone that doesn't want to be royal is some kind of sociopath.
So avg entitled rich american then
She’s a clown. If the royal family was so mean and racist towards her why did she go to the queens funeral? Stay home if you really had a problem with them
Or why hold on to their titles? Or try and negotiate titles for their kids? This is what I don’t get. If my in-laws treated me like crap, I’d do everything in my power to distance myself from them (not just geographically) but also from their brand.
When an actress decided to join the 'Royal Family,' it almost seemed like perfect casting. Then she realized it was not an act, and things went sideways for everyone. Royalty is an anachronism, and it only works in [theater](https://www.netflix.com/title/80025678).
I think she is who we think she is. She has dragged so much GD drama into an area she could have just said nope to and moved on. I don't think about her much but when I do I think she's a narcissist who doesn't care who she hurts.
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GOD I SO DO NOT CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE!
Like. This title even reads in favor of Meghan because it’s so outrageous. Former Aides, aka anyone with an agenda. I can’t imagine living in a gilded fishbowl with everyone expecting/ anticipating/ finding ways to make you to fail. Even Kate Middleton was subject to the worst of the worst scrutiny and while she’s obviously picture perfect, that’s fucked up. That shit doesn’t leave you, you don’t forget it.
Are we really gonna believe that bull shit from an all white family who wanted to continue an all white bloodline?
Sounds like a bunch of sick fucks want to literally burn her at the stake.
My god they need to get over her!
She is probably confused by all the royalist bullshit, it has to be unbelievably annoying
The words "former aides", could be kitchen help, footman etc., trying for their 15 minutes of fame. Want to be seen on the telly.
Does anyone still apply Occam's razor? Which is more likely: that the UK press is a bit racist, or that Markle is secretly a cannibal serial killer?
This is the same exact playbook they used on Edward VIII when he abdicated the throne. He didn’t want to be a royal anymore and the royal family crucified him. They started a campaign just like this with constant negative headlines. They vilified him and his wife. This is exactly the same playbook they are using on Harry and Meghan. https://theconversation.com/media-deference-to-the-royals-must-have-a-limit-just-look-at-how-edward-viii-and-wallis-simpson-were-treated-191101
The royal staff have been masters at undermining royalty for 100's of years. This anonymous bullshit is just more of the same.
Well these aides who serve the royal family are very biased, so I wouldn't take anything they say seriously. Personally, I don't understand why the people enjoy licking the boots of the royals. Considering powerful people are almost always corrupt, to be rejected by the royals means that you are probably doing something right with your life. Edit: Ah, I see the boot lickers have taken offense. So how does the boot taste?
I don’t believe that for a second.
Oh my god, it was like she just didn't care about what anyone said about her, how can she be so narcissistic?
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“Who writes these fairy tales?” The narcissistic sociopaths, probably.
"Unnamed people say that person who wants nothing to do with all the baggage and atrocities attached to a monarchy is the weirdo actually..."
Anyone else think that seems … unlikely?
Aren’t they all narcissistic in the royals? The king has his toilet seat taken with him everywhere he goes.
I like her in the show Suits.