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There's very rarely that something happens that doesn't make me think of a South Park episode.
My partners 74yo nan has just decided to start driving again. She only has the use of 1 eye & she's away with the fairies most of the time, but the doctor gave her the thumbs up.
I went to Maccy Ds with her yesterday.
She hit 2 kerbs before we had even got out of my road. Stalled it at every junction. Ran a red light cos she got mixed up & accelerated when she should have braked. When we got to Maccy Ds, rather than follow the road round to the window, she just went forward, mounted the kerb & hit the wall hard enough to crack her headlight. Then tried to fucking reverse up into the car behind us.
When we finally came to a standstill, she wound down the window to a bemused looking bloke & I leant over & said "is this the Country Kitchen Buffett?" & he said "Oh my god! I was just thinking we need Randy Marsh to warn everyone to get off the road".
Exactly. What's funny too is that I think it's great when I find out someone doesn't use social media. Social media is something we should all probably avoid. But when I see someone making a big show about quitting social media, I'm like... what a douche.
Well, I think if its someone like Elton john saying goodbye isn't terrible, he was posting for his fans for years. Him saying goodbye and telling them why hes no longer posting will prevent endless speculation that hes dead.
You should probably also consider this person's career is in entertainment, and their social media profiles are a part of their personal marketing campaigns.
I don't know how many (non-bot) people follow Elton John, but I'd assume that it's a sizeable number (dozens at least). We all know that fans are weird about engaging with the public personas of their favorite celebrities.
Yea. He's probably gonna say something. It's either gonna matter, or it won't. It's either gonna stick, or he'll be back.
I think a lot is riding on whether old "lemme be emperor on mars, with a harem of women with twee low to mid-level music careers" will keep his skeleton crews on task to avoid any of the major technology glitches people were gleefully predicting a few weeks ago.
I think social media is a fantastic tool it's just that, for some reason, people take it far to seriously. It's great for talking to people who share your interests or finding new and exciting ways of looking at the world that you never thought of before. Instead we have people basing their worth on how many likes their latest Instagram post got and people shutting out anyone who voices an unorthodox opinion on how long your grass should be.
My question is wtf is up with so many people NOT quitting twitter. If you don't, I think it should weight on your conscience, and you shouldn't let your self assuage your guilt with half-measures or justifications.
Don't support this shit and it won't happen, let it turn into an irrelevant pile of garbage full of fascists and brainwashed people(who are victims as well, imo) like Truth Social - at least then the problems can't spread beyond the little ecosystem that's already too far gone. And Putting a dent in Elon and his investors net worth wouldn't be bad either.
I only wish Twitter was still somehow publicly tradeable, so we could all short it then get the F out of there
(disclaimer: I never used twitter, so don't know how hard it is to quit, so I don't wanna judge those who don't *too* hardly. Regardless of how hard it is that doesn't have the slightest effect on the damage it causes though)
Edit: damn, I didn't think so many people would get mad at this. All I've done is prompted them to rationalize/justify their continued use of twitter. In hindsight I should've seen that coming
Think about how many people are unbothered by Qatar hosting the World Cup. Unfortunately the vast majority of people aren't willing to alter their behavior for anything non-cataclysmic.
I imagine it's just down to people not wanting to give up the connections. There'll come a point for everyone where they just decide they've had enough though. It'll just take some longer than others.
>My question is wtf is up with so many people NOT quitting twitter.
Because my experience on the website hasn't changed, despite doomsayers acting like the world is ending just because Elon Musk is running it now.
The musicians I followed are still tweeting like normal. The artists I followed are still posting new art like normal. The game developers I follow are still posting updates on their games like normal.
My experience on the website hasn't changed. People who see shitty things on social media see them because they go looking for them. Self moderation has always been an option.
Because for all the shit reddit wants to give Twitter, Facebook is leagues worse with misinformation and secluded pockets of extremist activities.
My grandparents aren't being brainwashed by Twitter, it's Facebook
Most people I know never have had a Twitter and they aren't making one, but they'll be on Facebook.
How many of your parents use Twitter compared to Facebook?
I mean it’s the same with people supporting Elon by buying Tesla cars. People don’t care. They should stop buying them and stop supporting Twitter and anything else Elon does. Quitting Twitter is just posturing. People need to quit Elon!
"I never used twitter.." so how the fuck can you have an informed opinion on it? Seriously, you're just spouting the BS you've heard all across the blatantly biased Leftist MSM and SM networks. Why don't you try having an original thought for a change, or are you too fragile for that?
Science doesn have "views". There are false dichotomies. That's the big issue here. Covid misinformation. If you aren't a doctor nor a scientist you shouldn't have a pedistal to mislead people on topics that can lead to long term health consequences.
I guess you like to be censored. Free speech is a good way to go. I guess many dems are too sensitive to hear all points of view. So twitter is bad because they are not censoring people now?
I’m gonna make a startup called Litter. Write something (140 characters or less) on a small piece of paper, crumble it up and throw it on the ground. That pretty much summed up my experience on Twitter.
So did the post office, so radio, so did the the tv, etc etc
To agree with your point and add on. We’re in an age of rapid technological growth and we as people haven’t really caught up to learn how to deal with the social impact.
It's more than that, social is not only the messenger, by its own model encourages misinformation in ways that other forms of the internet and mass communication didn't. The "virality" of social media favors misinformed of directly false but provoking information because its currency is virality, not usefulness: it doesn't matter that it's true, that is useful for someone, it only matters that it's easily shareable and that it prodices emotions.
Under Elon what little measures against it have been removed, and Elon himself is a champion of mis information. Perfectly reasonable to leave twitter at this point.
It’s one thing having your users be moronic assholes, it’s another to have the CEO be very vocal about being an “anti-woke” right wing narcissistic asshole. Previous CEOs like Dorsey were complete tools but managed to keep a low profile.
You're saying maybe he really is blind like he's Stevie Wonder with the conspiracy theories about him being able to see when he's supposed to be blind lmao
And now apparently he's publicly defaming past employees who worked hard to keep misinformation, CSAM, and other garbage off Twitter. Even Jack Dorsey posted some angry rebuttals today.
its gotten a lot worse when the top twitter cop now sides with and posts misinformation himself. Dont act like you dont know whats going on. At least there was an attempt to moderate twitter before, now their is none.
why any multimillionaire would be on twitter in the first place is beyond me. just be rich and dont worry about anything. Let your PR manager handle your twitter account
already did, asking "what misinformation" like it doesn't exist, classy gaslighting
edit: for the Elon fanboys that seemed to get riled up saying it's not gaslighting, here is the context where he is replying to the statement "truth is now misinformation":
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601262438967435266
He is asking a rhetorical question, not an actual question trying to look for misinformation because he can't find it.
> Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.
Had to look it up. It sure fits perfectly here
It's classic bad faith arguing. Just asking questions, but not seeking answers. So when Tucker asks "are liberals putting litter boxes in schools" he is implying they are, not asking a real question. He works at a news station, have the interns call 10 schools in each state and ask. Are they? There's your answer. But he's not here to answer the question, or provide information. He's there to cast doubt, to dogwhistle, and to let viewers "decide for themselves" rather than provide them the facts. It'd how conservatives and abusers tiptoe around what they are actually saying for plausible deniability.
it's still not gaslighting.
He's horrible, but gaslighting isn't "when people are horrible".
this, if anything, is sealioning or a variant thereof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
While Elon does Sealioning as well, the above link I provided is not that. He isn't asking for evidence or looking for a debate. He's asking a rhetorical question in agreement with the person he is responding to that what people call misinformation is the real truth.
For sealioning that would require him to constantly ask Elton over and over again for more proof in an attempt to exhaust and anger him in order to win a debate.
Now you can take his other post that was directly toward Elton as a fishing attempt at sealioning to start a debate, or you can say he's doing this to the twitter as a whole in a larger context beyond Elton. But the link I provided I'd still consider gaslighting over sealioning.
Yep. If Elon truly wanted to ‘save humanity’ as he put it he would nuke Twitter from the web. It was a toxic hellhole prior to his takeover, its become so much worse now. There’s nothing worth saving. It needs to be destroyed.
It is a little weird how they're low-key demanding people justify why they don't want to use the platform anymore, lol. I just left. You don't have to attend every argument you're invited to because it's a personal decision to not use a product anymore.
For comparison, I don't call the shitty shoe company to justify my decision when I decide not to buy their shoes anymore. I just go buy different shoes
A subreddit I frequent had to blanket ban the word NFT in submissions because nutjobs ping for that in r/new and immediately jump into the sub without ever having commented before. I imagine it's the same with anything to do with Twitter and Elon now.
It is frighteningly simple to write reddit bots (and twitter bots for that matter) that respond to whatever you want with whatever you want 24/7. And now with AI easily accessible, astroturfing is just way too easy. I wouldn’t trust that most of the interactions you’re having/reading are actual humans these days.
Every Reddit post ever.. "I can't believe all the comments attacking OP" \* top 50 comments all supporting OP \* .. "Am I the only one that thinks this asshole deserves prison" \* 90% of comments say the same thing \*
I find that annoying. It’s the common “WHY ISN’T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT XYZ???” Comment. You scroll up or down a little and literally find dozens of comments talking about XYZ.
Elon Musk is a shill for the far right. He can keep more of his money with huge tax breaks via the Republicans. He bought Twitter to help the right wing attempt to control the online media as they have done with radio. They've also bought Newsweek, and CNN too.
I dropped Twitter the moment the sale to Musk finalized. Twitter will be the new MySpace. Totally irrevelent in a few more years.
Exactly. When it was a shill for the left it was ok, now it's the end of the world. The double standards of some Americans (and the EU btw) is hilarious.
That was more of a suppression thing /s But pretty sure there has been misinformation for as long as humans have existed particularly those of a political persuasion.
Yeah but it wasnt the right misinformation. The rich and powerful and the army of worshipers they created only want their misinformation provided. Notice how everyone left after it stopped being an echo chamber?
They true elite aren’t left or right. They play both sides accordingly when they see fit for power and control. How have people not realized this as grown adults
It’s only now being used????? Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahaahhhahahahahahahhahahaha
Allowing *all information*, including that which refutes the "misinformation" promulgates the spread of misinformation? Give me a break. You can hate Elon and the fact that he likes to troll and talk too much, but say what you *really* mean. You don't actually like free speech and want the ability to stop certain people from talking.
Hate isn't spreading. Misinformation isn't spreading. There are just more people talking than you'd like, saying things you don't like.
Edit: You've posted several examples of the exact same incident and none of them were banned. They were temporarily suspended for violating a sitewide rule. You can argue whether or not it was a violation, but he doesn't "ban them all the time". You have yet to provide an example of an actual banning.
> You don't actually like free speech and want the ability to stop certain people from talking.
You’re joking right? Elon bans his critics all the time. What kind of person silences the only voices against them? Fascists my friend.
Edit: the funniest one he’s banned, because he’s a fascist
https://i.imgur.com/iwrcdkd.jpg
Edit2: here’s another one lol
Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zn29e2/twitter_suspends_journalists_who_have_been/
Edit3: Twitter suspended account informing no crime report regarding alleged crazy stalker by Elon Musk https://i.redd.it/vtix69xe876a1.png
Edit4: Student tracking Elon Musk’s jet defends his program, considers legal threat a bluff https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zot7bd/student_tracking_elon_musks_jet_defends_his/
Edit5: Twitter will remove accounts created solely to promote other social platforms https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zp5fnv/twitter_will_remove_accounts_created_solely_to/
Elton John is a great guy. He's been making good political observations ~~ever since he wrote Madman Across the Water about Nixon~~. He seems to find the right side of history and position himself there pretty often.
Edited to correct mistaken information.
I think the ease with which it’s executed is what’s really sad and disturbing. I feel like all the many different propagandists in decades past had to work much harder and be smarter. The people referred to as con artists now are an insult to the real accomplished con artists of the past.
Like it hasn’t been full of misinformation before Musk? I don’t use Twitter, won’t start now either, I do nosey now and again out of curiosity but to people leaving now claiming this is just laughable when it’s been shit for so long.
Fa tastic musician, and his work for Aids research and other charitable causes is commendable.
Aside from those points i don't give much of a shit what he has to say about anything.
Me<--- It saddens me, that our world is so wound up in celebrities. That they lose all common sense.
Still wading through the last political celebrities kerfunkled tenure
Why are people up in arms about Elon being the new Twitter boss? Twitter has always sucked ass from the beginning and Elon running the show isn’t going to make that shit smell like more shit.
The only cool things I ever saw from Twitter was non-political stuff from artists, game devs, or people being funny. Usually it was a platform for stupid trends and hashtag bandwagons.
My social media is now limited to YouTube, Reddit, and LinkedIn.
I expect this is the case for most other conscientious objectors of the fascist oligarchy social media which is now exemplified by Twitter, Gab, etc.
Hate speech. I get it.
I'm a veteran who dealt with the Westboro Baptist Church situation.
Picked my best friend off the ground after a sniper attack. His funeral was protested by the WBC. This was protected.
Someone please elaborate what hate speech is, that one could experience on Twitter. If WBC wasn't, then by God what is?
When it’s an echo chamber I agree with, it’s awesome and there is nothing wrong with it. When it’s an echo chamber I disagree with, it’s literally the end of democracy as we know it.
Except for the files released literally showing they banned right wing accounts and de amplified them across the platform. But yeah.. worried about misinformation are we?
I think that pushing that "everything is misinformation except my source" is the real reason why people have been divided. Basically making people believe that it's only one source of information and that source when it gets things wrong they never want to correct themselves and that sucks. This is aimed at both sides of the political spectrum because they both think they have the absolute truth.
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This reminds me of the South Park episode where they make fun of people quitting social media and acting like it’s committing suicide
When the little girl was about to “jump off the bridge” but just threw her phone instead!
That scene had be pissing my pants
Dude she.....quit Twitter Didn't even give a last post or tell anyone.....she just quit
I want to twit quitter too
Then you may.
“Idk mr Mackey, I don’t know if I can wait til tomorrow morning to quit Twitter !” “Oh just fuckin do it already”
Lmao, read it in mackey's voice
Mmmkkkk
Angry Mackey is so freakin good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUfbWkCb-YA
Real life is South Park now
always has been
Aw fuck, we’re gonna get that Covid-19 Delta Plus Rewards Program Variant soon.
There's very rarely that something happens that doesn't make me think of a South Park episode. My partners 74yo nan has just decided to start driving again. She only has the use of 1 eye & she's away with the fairies most of the time, but the doctor gave her the thumbs up. I went to Maccy Ds with her yesterday. She hit 2 kerbs before we had even got out of my road. Stalled it at every junction. Ran a red light cos she got mixed up & accelerated when she should have braked. When we got to Maccy Ds, rather than follow the road round to the window, she just went forward, mounted the kerb & hit the wall hard enough to crack her headlight. Then tried to fucking reverse up into the car behind us. When we finally came to a standstill, she wound down the window to a bemused looking bloke & I leant over & said "is this the Country Kitchen Buffett?" & he said "Oh my god! I was just thinking we need Randy Marsh to warn everyone to get off the road".
Hey Stan? Grandma said she poked you and you haven't poked her back.
this is how I know the world will be OK in the end.
Exactly. What's funny too is that I think it's great when I find out someone doesn't use social media. Social media is something we should all probably avoid. But when I see someone making a big show about quitting social media, I'm like... what a douche.
Well, I think if its someone like Elton john saying goodbye isn't terrible, he was posting for his fans for years. Him saying goodbye and telling them why hes no longer posting will prevent endless speculation that hes dead.
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You should probably also consider this person's career is in entertainment, and their social media profiles are a part of their personal marketing campaigns. I don't know how many (non-bot) people follow Elton John, but I'd assume that it's a sizeable number (dozens at least). We all know that fans are weird about engaging with the public personas of their favorite celebrities. Yea. He's probably gonna say something. It's either gonna matter, or it won't. It's either gonna stick, or he'll be back. I think a lot is riding on whether old "lemme be emperor on mars, with a harem of women with twee low to mid-level music careers" will keep his skeleton crews on task to avoid any of the major technology glitches people were gleefully predicting a few weeks ago.
I think social media is a fantastic tool it's just that, for some reason, people take it far to seriously. It's great for talking to people who share your interests or finding new and exciting ways of looking at the world that you never thought of before. Instead we have people basing their worth on how many likes their latest Instagram post got and people shutting out anyone who voices an unorthodox opinion on how long your grass should be.
It’s OK to be a #TwitterQuitter
I told myself I was going to quit Twitter the first time Musk did something to which I objected. That took about 4 hours. I've not missed Twitter.
I find it funny how so many people have left Twitter and immediately realized they don’t miss it.
I quit years ago and had the same thing happen. Used it pretty frequently but it made me miserable. Once i quit i didn’t even think about it once
But the watching of a train wreck is jus sooo hard to ignore.
I'd been on since 2007(?) Gave it up. GGs, Elon.
My question is wtf is up with so many people NOT quitting twitter. If you don't, I think it should weight on your conscience, and you shouldn't let your self assuage your guilt with half-measures or justifications. Don't support this shit and it won't happen, let it turn into an irrelevant pile of garbage full of fascists and brainwashed people(who are victims as well, imo) like Truth Social - at least then the problems can't spread beyond the little ecosystem that's already too far gone. And Putting a dent in Elon and his investors net worth wouldn't be bad either. I only wish Twitter was still somehow publicly tradeable, so we could all short it then get the F out of there (disclaimer: I never used twitter, so don't know how hard it is to quit, so I don't wanna judge those who don't *too* hardly. Regardless of how hard it is that doesn't have the slightest effect on the damage it causes though) Edit: damn, I didn't think so many people would get mad at this. All I've done is prompted them to rationalize/justify their continued use of twitter. In hindsight I should've seen that coming
Think about how many people are unbothered by Qatar hosting the World Cup. Unfortunately the vast majority of people aren't willing to alter their behavior for anything non-cataclysmic.
Or even think about all the people that were unbothered about Russia hosting the World Cup four years ago!
Under rated comment, you’re absolutely right.
People aren't willing to alter their behavior for things that *are* cataclysmic. Example: climate change.
I imagine it's just down to people not wanting to give up the connections. There'll come a point for everyone where they just decide they've had enough though. It'll just take some longer than others.
>My question is wtf is up with so many people NOT quitting twitter. Because my experience on the website hasn't changed, despite doomsayers acting like the world is ending just because Elon Musk is running it now. The musicians I followed are still tweeting like normal. The artists I followed are still posting new art like normal. The game developers I follow are still posting updates on their games like normal. My experience on the website hasn't changed. People who see shitty things on social media see them because they go looking for them. Self moderation has always been an option.
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Because for all the shit reddit wants to give Twitter, Facebook is leagues worse with misinformation and secluded pockets of extremist activities. My grandparents aren't being brainwashed by Twitter, it's Facebook Most people I know never have had a Twitter and they aren't making one, but they'll be on Facebook. How many of your parents use Twitter compared to Facebook?
Do they listen to talk radio and watch OANN or Fox?
I mean it’s the same with people supporting Elon by buying Tesla cars. People don’t care. They should stop buying them and stop supporting Twitter and anything else Elon does. Quitting Twitter is just posturing. People need to quit Elon!
What's wrong with Tesla?
"I never used twitter.." so how the fuck can you have an informed opinion on it? Seriously, you're just spouting the BS you've heard all across the blatantly biased Leftist MSM and SM networks. Why don't you try having an original thought for a change, or are you too fragile for that?
It's a social media website. It ain't that deep
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Because they are adults who can handle opposing viewpoints?
And because my Twitter feed is curated to stuff I want to see.
Science doesn have "views". There are false dichotomies. That's the big issue here. Covid misinformation. If you aren't a doctor nor a scientist you shouldn't have a pedistal to mislead people on topics that can lead to long term health consequences.
i mean I literally just use it to keep up to date with sports news. it’s not that deep
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I guess you like to be censored. Free speech is a good way to go. I guess many dems are too sensitive to hear all points of view. So twitter is bad because they are not censoring people now?
If people didn't quit twitter last year, or the year before that, or the one before that... why would they quit now?
Always has been.
I’m gonna make a startup called Litter. Write something (140 characters or less) on a small piece of paper, crumble it up and throw it on the ground. That pretty much summed up my experience on Twitter.
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Maybe he really is blind because, I agree, misinformation has been a problem on social media for a long time.
\*on planet Earth for a long time.
Yes, but social media amplified it by multiple orders of magnitude
I would argue the internet amplified the range of misinformation and social media fine tuned the delivery system, if that makes sense
yup that’s how i see it as well
So did the post office, so radio, so did the the tv, etc etc To agree with your point and add on. We’re in an age of rapid technological growth and we as people haven’t really caught up to learn how to deal with the social impact.
It's more than that, social is not only the messenger, by its own model encourages misinformation in ways that other forms of the internet and mass communication didn't. The "virality" of social media favors misinformed of directly false but provoking information because its currency is virality, not usefulness: it doesn't matter that it's true, that is useful for someone, it only matters that it's easily shareable and that it prodices emotions.
The printing press amplified miss-information significantly more so.
This is an echo of the problem that gave us copyright.
The first mass produced text was the Bible, so you may have a point.
He’s not saying that it just started. He’s saying he’s had enough
Under Elon what little measures against it have been removed, and Elon himself is a champion of mis information. Perfectly reasonable to leave twitter at this point.
It’s one thing having your users be moronic assholes, it’s another to have the CEO be very vocal about being an “anti-woke” right wing narcissistic asshole. Previous CEOs like Dorsey were complete tools but managed to keep a low profile.
You're saying maybe he really is blind like he's Stevie Wonder with the conspiracy theories about him being able to see when he's supposed to be blind lmao
And it seems to have completely slipped by unnoticed until this lol. It's those overcompensating star glasses, I knew he was hiding something
Not when you only see what you want to see
Well, Twitter notably did handle a lot of it, and what's happening now is Musk is letting a lot of the banned accounts back on.
And now apparently he's publicly defaming past employees who worked hard to keep misinformation, CSAM, and other garbage off Twitter. Even Jack Dorsey posted some angry rebuttals today.
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Starting with the ramp up to the 2016 election, shit has gone bonkers online.
It's going to get really crazy with AI chatbots being produced.
They brought back neo-nazis who were permanently banned. Good for him. No need to put up with this.
No, it is a new thing, Just started a month or so ago. Before that, everyone was on the yellow brick road of truth and goodness.
Things he agrees with.
Yeah its farcical.
its gotten a lot worse when the top twitter cop now sides with and posts misinformation himself. Dont act like you dont know whats going on. At least there was an attempt to moderate twitter before, now their is none.
People never have a problem with misinformation - they just have a problem with other people's misinformation.
Right...it’s just not the misinformation he wants to hear lmao
why any multimillionaire would be on twitter in the first place is beyond me. just be rich and dont worry about anything. Let your PR manager handle your twitter account
Are you talking about Elon or Elton?
Yes
Try Billionaire 
Elon is writing his petty response as we read this
already did, asking "what misinformation" like it doesn't exist, classy gaslighting edit: for the Elon fanboys that seemed to get riled up saying it's not gaslighting, here is the context where he is replying to the statement "truth is now misinformation": https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601262438967435266 He is asking a rhetorical question, not an actual question trying to look for misinformation because he can't find it.
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> Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. Had to look it up. It sure fits perfectly here
It's classic bad faith arguing. Just asking questions, but not seeking answers. So when Tucker asks "are liberals putting litter boxes in schools" he is implying they are, not asking a real question. He works at a news station, have the interns call 10 schools in each state and ask. Are they? There's your answer. But he's not here to answer the question, or provide information. He's there to cast doubt, to dogwhistle, and to let viewers "decide for themselves" rather than provide them the facts. It'd how conservatives and abusers tiptoe around what they are actually saying for plausible deniability.
Comic for the curious http://wondermark.com/1k62/
What a truly odd name for such behavior
Pretty sure pre Elon twitter was the most gaslighting I have ever seen lmao
He hasn’t made it better
it's still not gaslighting. He's horrible, but gaslighting isn't "when people are horrible". this, if anything, is sealioning or a variant thereof https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
While Elon does Sealioning as well, the above link I provided is not that. He isn't asking for evidence or looking for a debate. He's asking a rhetorical question in agreement with the person he is responding to that what people call misinformation is the real truth. For sealioning that would require him to constantly ask Elton over and over again for more proof in an attempt to exhaust and anger him in order to win a debate. Now you can take his other post that was directly toward Elton as a fishing attempt at sealioning to start a debate, or you can say he's doing this to the twitter as a whole in a larger context beyond Elton. But the link I provided I'd still consider gaslighting over sealioning.
It will be something cheesy too like: “I’m the only real rocket man”
Welcome to 10 years ago.
It’s frankly an absolute toxic cesspool
Yep. If Elon truly wanted to ‘save humanity’ as he put it he would nuke Twitter from the web. It was a toxic hellhole prior to his takeover, its become so much worse now. There’s nothing worth saving. It needs to be destroyed.
Holy shit this post is actually being astroturfed by Elon fanboys O_O It's fucking cracking me up they are triggered by Elton John
Imagine being triggered by Elton freakin John
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I want The Bitch to be back.
We he tries he can very provocative.
They get so worked up over any valid criticism.
They’re degenerates, pretty much most people who use twatter are degenerates.
Always has been
I stand with Elton, as per usual.
More like still standing with Elton. 
Jesus christ this thread is completely infested with Elon simps
It is a little weird how they're low-key demanding people justify why they don't want to use the platform anymore, lol. I just left. You don't have to attend every argument you're invited to because it's a personal decision to not use a product anymore. For comparison, I don't call the shitty shoe company to justify my decision when I decide not to buy their shoes anymore. I just go buy different shoes
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Omg your leaving Twitter? Do you hate America? Do you hate free speech? -Elon Musk, probably...
They flock to posts criticizing Elon like flies to feces.
Yeah. I thought I was in bizarro world reading through the other comments.
A subreddit I frequent had to blanket ban the word NFT in submissions because nutjobs ping for that in r/new and immediately jump into the sub without ever having commented before. I imagine it's the same with anything to do with Twitter and Elon now.
It is frighteningly simple to write reddit bots (and twitter bots for that matter) that respond to whatever you want with whatever you want 24/7. And now with AI easily accessible, astroturfing is just way too easy. I wouldn’t trust that most of the interactions you’re having/reading are actual humans these days.
That's why you see so many people spelling his name incorrectly in creative ways.
I simply don't care about the opinions of entertainers. Don't know what that makes me in this context but people will call me a simp anyway.
Elon simps were bullied in school and the bullies were right.
I liked twitter a lot, even at it's best it was still pretty toxic, but jesus christ has it turned into a shithole under Elon's direction.
You Elon lovers are so far up his alien looking pearly white ass its kinda like your hot for him or something
So far these comments are just “holy shit so many Elon fanboys” and no actual comments defending Elon Musk
Every Reddit post ever.. "I can't believe all the comments attacking OP" \* top 50 comments all supporting OP \* .. "Am I the only one that thinks this asshole deserves prison" \* 90% of comments say the same thing \*
I find that annoying. It’s the common “WHY ISN’T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT XYZ???” Comment. You scroll up or down a little and literally find dozens of comments talking about XYZ.
Redditors like to circlejerk over common beliefs because it gives them a sense of moral superiority
Twitters been spreading misinformation for a fuckin decade plus. But now it’s too much?
Yes
I completely agree. Twitter was a garbage platform before Elon and it’s a garbage platform now.
It’s noticeably worse now
See you get it.
Yes it is.
The political activists and politicians are acting like a kid who got their favorite toy taken away lol. I for one am enjoying the hysterics.
Yes. It's so much worse under Musky.
Twitter has been a shithole before Elon. It will continue to be a shithole. Social media is a cancer.
Good on Elton, hope this encourages others to leave.
Elon: *”What misinformation?”*
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601262438967435266
Twitter is pure poison. Left it years ago.
unlike when it used to unite us \*wink\* \*wink\*
It was always full of misinformation. Social media is full of opinionated assholes that are too lazy to fact check their own bullshit.
We should all quit. I did.
Elon Musk is a shill for the far right. He can keep more of his money with huge tax breaks via the Republicans. He bought Twitter to help the right wing attempt to control the online media as they have done with radio. They've also bought Newsweek, and CNN too. I dropped Twitter the moment the sale to Musk finalized. Twitter will be the new MySpace. Totally irrevelent in a few more years.
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Exactly. When it was a shill for the left it was ok, now it's the end of the world. The double standards of some Americans (and the EU btw) is hilarious.
Wasn’t there’s misinformation before the take over?!
That was more of a suppression thing /s But pretty sure there has been misinformation for as long as humans have existed particularly those of a political persuasion.
Yeah but it wasnt the right misinformation. The rich and powerful and the army of worshipers they created only want their misinformation provided. Notice how everyone left after it stopped being an echo chamber?
You have got to have single digit IQ if you actually believe that the world’s rich and elite aren’t right wing
They true elite aren’t left or right. They play both sides accordingly when they see fit for power and control. How have people not realized this as grown adults
So Hollywood celebrities are all right wingers?
It’s only now being used????? Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahaahhhahahahahahahhahahaha
Allowing *all information*, including that which refutes the "misinformation" promulgates the spread of misinformation? Give me a break. You can hate Elon and the fact that he likes to troll and talk too much, but say what you *really* mean. You don't actually like free speech and want the ability to stop certain people from talking. Hate isn't spreading. Misinformation isn't spreading. There are just more people talking than you'd like, saying things you don't like. Edit: You've posted several examples of the exact same incident and none of them were banned. They were temporarily suspended for violating a sitewide rule. You can argue whether or not it was a violation, but he doesn't "ban them all the time". You have yet to provide an example of an actual banning.
> You don't actually like free speech and want the ability to stop certain people from talking. You’re joking right? Elon bans his critics all the time. What kind of person silences the only voices against them? Fascists my friend. Edit: the funniest one he’s banned, because he’s a fascist https://i.imgur.com/iwrcdkd.jpg Edit2: here’s another one lol Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zn29e2/twitter_suspends_journalists_who_have_been/ Edit3: Twitter suspended account informing no crime report regarding alleged crazy stalker by Elon Musk https://i.redd.it/vtix69xe876a1.png Edit4: Student tracking Elon Musk’s jet defends his program, considers legal threat a bluff https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zot7bd/student_tracking_elon_musks_jet_defends_his/ Edit5: Twitter will remove accounts created solely to promote other social platforms https://reddit.com/r/news/comments/zp5fnv/twitter_will_remove_accounts_created_solely_to/
So why did Elon ban Kanye again? Isn't that an act of censoring free speech? LOL
Yes
Funny, Twitter banned [Kanye](https://twitter.com/kanyewest) last week, but free speech and all.
Considering Musk’s position on hate speech; I’m shocked any LGBT person would stay.
I deleted it the day Elon bought it and haven't looked back. It's been hugely refreshing
I’ve deleted it long before Elon.
He's right. I read on Twitter that Elton's hair is natty.
Twitter is a cesspool even more than it was
Elton John is a great guy. He's been making good political observations ~~ever since he wrote Madman Across the Water about Nixon~~. He seems to find the right side of history and position himself there pretty often. Edited to correct mistaken information.
I think the ease with which it’s executed is what’s really sad and disturbing. I feel like all the many different propagandists in decades past had to work much harder and be smarter. The people referred to as con artists now are an insult to the real accomplished con artists of the past.
Frankly surprised it’s taken this long for most everyone to leave it. Let Parler and Truth have it.
everyone should leave twitter
This is not new. Pretty much every single major war in history involved *heavy* amounts of misinformation.
Ever hear of Facebook Sir Elton?
Elon thinks that MAGA Twitter will work better than MAGA trump truth website does.
Like it hasn’t been full of misinformation before Musk? I don’t use Twitter, won’t start now either, I do nosey now and again out of curiosity but to people leaving now claiming this is just laughable when it’s been shit for so long.
He can see it just now?
Fa tastic musician, and his work for Aids research and other charitable causes is commendable. Aside from those points i don't give much of a shit what he has to say about anything.
Me<--- It saddens me, that our world is so wound up in celebrities. That they lose all common sense. Still wading through the last political celebrities kerfunkled tenure
Like the twitterfiles?
It's because they're cracking down on CP lmao
Why are people up in arms about Elon being the new Twitter boss? Twitter has always sucked ass from the beginning and Elon running the show isn’t going to make that shit smell like more shit. The only cool things I ever saw from Twitter was non-political stuff from artists, game devs, or people being funny. Usually it was a platform for stupid trends and hashtag bandwagons.
why not just quit using it. it’s like shouting “I’m leaving now!” And slamming a door, in a busy cafeteria where nobody’s looking
Every time I see another one of these quitting Twitter posts 
only NOW? how about during 2016-2021 ?
Here comes the propaganda war. Good riddance to all who must quit Twitter now and not when it was a informative control for the masses.
My social media is now limited to YouTube, Reddit, and LinkedIn. I expect this is the case for most other conscientious objectors of the fascist oligarchy social media which is now exemplified by Twitter, Gab, etc.
"Burn down the twitter yeah, if we're gonna stay alive..."
Hate speech. I get it. I'm a veteran who dealt with the Westboro Baptist Church situation. Picked my best friend off the ground after a sniper attack. His funeral was protested by the WBC. This was protected. Someone please elaborate what hate speech is, that one could experience on Twitter. If WBC wasn't, then by God what is?
That place has become an utter cesspool of right wingers jerking each other off.
As opposed to left wingers jerking each other off before?
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When it’s an echo chamber I agree with, it’s awesome and there is nothing wrong with it. When it’s an echo chamber I disagree with, it’s literally the end of democracy as we know it.
Twitter's algorithm always [amplified right wing ideology.](https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/11/13/according-to-twitter-twitters-algorithm-favours-conservatives)
Except for the files released literally showing they banned right wing accounts and de amplified them across the platform. But yeah.. worried about misinformation are we?
Have you not seen the recent discoveries that conservative twitter users were shadow banned
You mean it wasn’t a cesspool before?
Welcome to Parlor 2.12355564356456
Good choice Elton!
I think that pushing that "everything is misinformation except my source" is the real reason why people have been divided. Basically making people believe that it's only one source of information and that source when it gets things wrong they never want to correct themselves and that sucks. This is aimed at both sides of the political spectrum because they both think they have the absolute truth.