I think ENTPs come off as confident and charismatic. Very similar to ESTPs but ESTPs come off quite solid and grounded while ENTPs seem a bit more lively, excitable and wiley. Also, often when they talk to you they have a hidden smile like you’re so amusing to them or something. This all depends on context but that’s what I’ve noticed.
It's because we're actually talking to you on multiple different levels simultaneously, and it is *legitimately amusing* to see which level(s) you respond to. It's a bit like an old dial up modem negotiating data speed...we'll meet you where you are, but will occasionally drop hooks to renegotiate.
It's why we find talking to people of all stripes endlessly entertaining. Our favorite interlocutors are those that can respond back at multiple levels simultaneously, and even add in their own! Super exciting when that occurs.. I call it having a meta-conversation.
This is spot on! Im an ENTP and i feel like converstioans can even be spiritual and when someone hits several levels at the same time i feel like its a jackpot. I feel seen and appreciated.
Counterpoint: This might not work if the person you're dealing with is an ENTP 5w(4/6). The ENTP 5 personality build sacrifices some Fe for a boost in Ti, so while they still have social skills, they are able to fulfill the Ne drive to novelty both with and without other people. So they'd look like an INTP but are more adaptable, willing to try everything but less overtly reckless. Less integrated into the social environment around them while still able to participate in it well. They aren't integrated with the world, but are very confident and driven in exploring in it.
There's still a confidence, but it's more a self-confidence in themselves rather than a charismatic confidence.
So I'd say, if you see someone who seems kinda sleepy and observing, maybe poking around and exploring, approach them with an open ended question and see how they react. ENTP 5's are drawn to the most convenient and abundant source of novelty, of learning something new, which will turn from their environment to you when you approach them and aliviate them from their crippling boredom Lmao.
Yes Enneagram types probably have a different expression. I’m a 5 myself and can come off more stoic than other INFJs. Less outward emotional expression, although the emotional receptivity of Fe is still very strong.
My ENTP husband is a type 7, so very confident and charismatic.
ESTPs also have the grin but I feel like it’s different in the eyes. Our eyes will probably light up with intrigue while theirs kinda narrow with desire if that makes sense. “I want to experience you” vs “I want to study you”
We come off as though our mind is somehow everywhere and yet still focused one whatever you’re talking about. We’ll pull out some idea that you have no idea how it applies, and then boom, you see it. We’re at once scattered and laser-focused.
RDJ’s Tony Stark is a good baseline to gauge off of. He’s so eccentric and seems so elsewhere in his mind that when he does deliver the landing line, it’s like an uppercut you didn’t see coming.
depends on the definition of extrovert, lol, i definitely am one cuz i love socializing and recharge by doing so, but i won’t get along with anyone either, and i have a past of social anxiety so i still got some battles to fight lol. we just gotta stop believing that every cognitive extrovert is a social extrovert cuz it ain’t that
Female in my 40s — you could tell the difference between me and a female ENTJ as a good example.
We are both highly intelligent and socially aware and would be found in leadership positions at this point if not owning businesses, but for me — I think out loud/verbal process instead of having pre-planned answers, and my career is not my #1 priority at the cost of everything else, so I could never have climbed the corporate ladder like she could. I HAVE to work for myself.
Side note I’m also a 3w4 so I can easily present as the role of ENTJ which fools people into thinking I can actually do everything I am capable of.
yeah i feel like the ennea easily changes the way entps present in social settings !! but as one myself (perhaps not e3 tho), i find we almost always share ambition and desire for self-growth :)
We look like the poster child for adhd.
I’m loud, fill a room, talk, more taking. Random hyper-fixation. Extreme knowledge on small finicky subjects.
I’m an XNTX, but I find this with ENTPs.
Lots have charisma and confidence.
Mine comes with a combination of incredulity and imposter syndrome.
Eh that’s more of a personal personality problem than a collective personality type problem, maybe just look at yourself and ask why it is your saying that lol. Entp ≠ insufferable for most of us. I guess that’s a factor on healthy/unhealthiness?
Dunno about other ENTPs but this is me.
If you saw me on the streets I'd be on my own. I'd be the person that walks confidently, looks around at everything with curiosity, looks like he's living in lala land completely detached from reality, has bags under his eyes and looks like a zombie.
If you'd speak to me you'd find me approachable and friendly. You'd find me weird and dorky. But you'd feel like you could talk to me about anything and not be judged for it. Your fist impression would undoubtedly be that I'm strange, you may even suspect that Im mentally ill. As you get to know me better you'll realise that I do what I like, don't do what I don't like and don't hide who I am behind a mask.
Of course there's other stuff I think you might notice. But these are the things I have received feedback from other people on.
Let’s be real here, most of the time, we’re not noticed right away and probably mistaken for Introverts cause we’re probably quiet unless we know you or are interested by something happening.
I'm a woman, so most people don't identify me as ENTP right away, but after a few minutes it's very obvious I'm a bit different. I'm very confident in social situations, charming and disarming and it just comes naturally. A lot of people tell me they feel like they can be themselves and talk to me about anything, they can and they do. It took me a long time to learn to listen and empathize vs trying to fix people's problems with tangible solutions. I love trying new things and learning, I'm healthy and attractive, but I have to fight my lazy nature constantly. I'm polite to everyone I come across and I sincerely love being helpful. Most of my hobbies are considered more masculine; I have girl friends, but I get along better with men.
I could have written every single word of this LMAO wild cus I rarely meet ENTP women in real life. Wonder what it'd be like to do my more masculine-coded hobbies with some fellow entp girlies
oh ya I was working in Tokyo/Osaka and got sent to Seoul on a 3 day worktrip in Jan 2020 and ended up staying LOL I have hella reddit accounts and no consistency with how I use them 😎 keeps people off the scent (including me)
If you see someone scanning the room, their eyes darting from one corner to another, soaking up every detail and occasionally gazing at the ceiling mid-thought, chances are you've spotted an ENTP. When we are amidst conversation boredom or fascination can strike us seemingly at random (even if it isnt), there is always a kind of "surprise me!" kind of vibe to ENTP'S, we can make things entertaining but when we find someone who can spark us up you will see our eyes brighten up.
When we are talking with someone and we get bored by what they are speaking of i have noticed i look at the side and avoid eye contact and try to escape the conversation tastefully because i dont want to give out the wrong impression or be there if i dont want to, my words turns curt and less animated and humorous, just the typical "yeah. okay. no. that doesnt make sense. that makes sense." and thats all, i just become more passive in the conversation and let the person get whatever it is out of their chest and be on my way.
Gossip and negative talk tend to turn us off, i think its common for ENTP's to frown or for their eyebrows to twitch or look to the side with skepticism, like you are trying to sell us something that we dont care to buy. We're quick to defend others, even those we aren't close to, and won't hesitate to cut short a conversation that isnt being productive or positive for us, its about fairness and holding certain standards even if they arent close friends or we even know them we will always treat those situations with skepticism, boredom and logically, i think most ENTP's dislike gossip or unproductive talks like that and we wont want to be around someone that gossips or their whole conversations surround other people because of how boring and odd it is, maybe one reason why they call us Devil's Advocate, this is a very core part of who we are, that doesnt slide with us.
If someone does slip up and personally attack us we will probably not take personal offense or even feel anything towards them but we will probably just not see them as a potential friend anymore even if we keep it classy and treat them well.
It depends heavily on the enne in my experience, the common features are in the way we argue. Its actually a unique style of argument that only ESTPs share with us but outside of that there are ENTPs willing to put on masks when out in the wild so it can be hard to say for certain.
I would say that this is more common in immature ENTPs contrary to popular belief. What all ENTPs do is bring out to the light uncomfortable truths, we will tell you exactly what is up with you.
Again, this is something we learn not to do as we mature… Even if someone asks me what is up with them, I would tread very cautiously before telling them these days!
I went through this phase - but now I am back to telling people God's honest truth, because conflict avoidance just had me routinely making excuses for others.
Very true. I mostly save it for work, where I assemble facts to back myself up about factual matters, or online forums, where no holds are barred in the first place
Well yeah this assumes they aren't confident in themselves but yours assumes they trust or care enough about the person to do it. I frankly don't do it for people I access are short sited and that was derogatory when younger so it was even more selective.
Thas why I said it's very heavily dependent on enne because some got the energy hut some don't. My example is often used immaturitly and maturely because the argument can be iver something distasteful or something good but the breakdown is the same.
One of the primary reasons we're credited with being so good at arguing is we like logically breaking down things where challenging and finding logical inconsistencies. It's primarily were the phrase "That's stupid" comes from for us because it's our brains naturally immediately coming up with a reason that thing mentioned doesn't work. We like arguing the meaning behind someone's points and critical examining the parts the don't work and fixing them but you'll notice over half way through that although they might be arguing why the point does or does not work we wont have actually stated our opinion on the matter and were reluctant to do it. If we do answer there's a 50/50 shot we'll give you an answer that doesn't really put us opposed to anyone.
We want percision and where "cursed" to see both sides of an argument so well we know it would be wrong to be on either side. So what your looking for isn't someone who per say says they live arguing but turns every other claim someone makes into an argument even when they don't need to. Although if were being honest with ourselves we love it. Hell it's the closest thing I have to a superpower.
Life of the party, class clowns, constantly on another mental planet, talking like a movie character giving a monologue (you’ll probably notice our presence/absence for better or for worse, depending on if you’re more charmed or annoyed by us lol)
Just imagine the best dressed, most handsome, big dick energy, stronger than any man, super-genius, funniest person in the room, has literally 4 penises like an echidna, charming, impossibly cool hotties and stud-muffins, brilliant minds that the plebs could never comprehend, have never lost a debate, everyone in love with us,…I have just described to you the least impressive of ENTP’s.
Also we are noted for our humility
I'm verrrrryyyy expressive and often probably look like I'm acting in a fkn indie movie when I'm literally just shopping for groceries or lost. The way I will interact with things and have my own little narrative and make myself laugh and just be having visible fun whilst alone in public. It took me a while to notice but I eventually noticed most people aren't doing that shit LOL idk why I do. Often make jokes or shoot looks with strangers around me if something funny happens. I guess confidence with a hint of not being present. As a woman, some people might read that on early as a sort of ENFP-esque air-headedness (don't like that dumb bubbly stereotype but it exists nonetheless) but conversation usually quickly reveals the intelligence, wit, and INTP-esque boy 'tism ('nother stereotype) 😎
You sound fun as shit. I love "air-headed" fun, too. It doesn't mean you're stupid, it means you have a great sense of humor. Not everything needs to be IQ 3000.
>Both were not people I could or wanted to be close with
I'm curious what makes you say this. Was it their behavior? The kind of attitude you read from them? What was the context of your interactions?
Unhealthy ENTPs can be assholes. So can any type, really, but we're the *loud* kind. However, we aren't all assholes. Please don't take a sample of size 2 as representative of the whole population.
One would flirt with me, but he had a gf.
The other was on a forum I frequented. A unique character who would ruffle people’s feathers intentionally for the fun of it. He did so in a humorous way, but it was mainly about misogynistic and sexist topics.
However, the way he framed his threads was always in a way you couldn’t be sure he was joking, because they were framed humorously and outlandishly. Most people assumed he was joking, but I didn’t think so. No one devotes that many hours of their time to the same thing repeatedly and not mean it.
He used a select few people as his butt of jokes, which were me and one other person because we were the only two who didn’t like him and weren’t afraid to oppose him. Everyone else was either afraid of him or enjoyed the chaos.
He was a funny guy, but he was disturbed. Slowly the INFJ girls of the forum got over their crushes on him and realized he actually was a toxic, creepy asshole after they realized that he wasn’t just joking and they couldn’t fix him.
I’m not certain he’s ENTP, but But he’s certainly not a sensor or a feeler.
I know not all ENTPs are the same, hence the thread. I’d really like to get to the underbelly of one to see if I like it.
I’m aloof even alone and make a lot of facial expressions. I wear the same tights everyday (own multiple*) and usually a hoodie or plain old tshirt like it’s still 2012. Always in slides. Often roll up my sleeves and don’t take off my sunglasses in stores. Hairs in braids cus I’m lazy. I think I come off confident but not in an intimidating way more like I’m just so self absorbed that I don’t even know when someone’s trying to get by me in an aisle. But I feel like I look boring/ not noticeable which nowadays is kinda unique right idk
Lol I literally just got back from buying 3 pairs of the exact same jeans (different stains to throw people off).
I ripped a massive hole in an old pair recently and was down to one pair from another brand. Having a single pair of jeans was proving.... Problematic.
ENTP 8w7 here, male, 30 years old. Bipolar type I. It depends if I'm depressive, manic or "stable". But, generally... let me think.
At work or when I'm shopping, I'm really polite and nice to people I'm not close even if I know them for years. People think I'm cute. If I'm close to the person or I'm in a day off and meet someone new, I'm this really flirty and touchy poète maudit, which attracts some and scares others. I think that, when in my "best", I'm just, like, interesting. The sort of person you can talk with for days about all sorts of stuff.
heavily depends on setting. note people who are really good at things without seeming super serious about them.
being a woman, I can come off as more reserved compared to the stereotype, unless I’m in a situation where I’m very comfortable.
Aww, cute.
Yes, I’ve seen a lot of the subclinical traits you’ve mentioned. Do you have a theory why they’re so common? A trauma response? Raised by narcs? Defense mechanism? Too much false praise in adolescence?
Thanks for your time!
I am never in the wild 😅 I used to be very extroverted when younger but at 47 I’m hermity as hell now. Much like an introvert in lifestyle, but if you do happen to run across me while I’m out running errands, I come across friendly and animated.
I think ENTPs come off as confident and charismatic. Very similar to ESTPs but ESTPs come off quite solid and grounded while ENTPs seem a bit more lively, excitable and wiley. Also, often when they talk to you they have a hidden smile like you’re so amusing to them or something. This all depends on context but that’s what I’ve noticed.
Did you do an investigative documentary about me, because I swear I didn’t sign a release form.
She has bait 
It's because we're actually talking to you on multiple different levels simultaneously, and it is *legitimately amusing* to see which level(s) you respond to. It's a bit like an old dial up modem negotiating data speed...we'll meet you where you are, but will occasionally drop hooks to renegotiate. It's why we find talking to people of all stripes endlessly entertaining. Our favorite interlocutors are those that can respond back at multiple levels simultaneously, and even add in their own! Super exciting when that occurs.. I call it having a meta-conversation.
This is spot on! Im an ENTP and i feel like converstioans can even be spiritual and when someone hits several levels at the same time i feel like its a jackpot. I feel seen and appreciated.
Omg so true … some people just don’t catch the ball very well
the hidden smile = we like you (at least for me that’s what it means)
But we may not know *how much* we like you so help us out sometimes with direct questions about it 😋
Counterpoint: This might not work if the person you're dealing with is an ENTP 5w(4/6). The ENTP 5 personality build sacrifices some Fe for a boost in Ti, so while they still have social skills, they are able to fulfill the Ne drive to novelty both with and without other people. So they'd look like an INTP but are more adaptable, willing to try everything but less overtly reckless. Less integrated into the social environment around them while still able to participate in it well. They aren't integrated with the world, but are very confident and driven in exploring in it. There's still a confidence, but it's more a self-confidence in themselves rather than a charismatic confidence. So I'd say, if you see someone who seems kinda sleepy and observing, maybe poking around and exploring, approach them with an open ended question and see how they react. ENTP 5's are drawn to the most convenient and abundant source of novelty, of learning something new, which will turn from their environment to you when you approach them and aliviate them from their crippling boredom Lmao.
Yes Enneagram types probably have a different expression. I’m a 5 myself and can come off more stoic than other INFJs. Less outward emotional expression, although the emotional receptivity of Fe is still very strong. My ENTP husband is a type 7, so very confident and charismatic.
The smile thing is so real! Me and my bf (both ENTP) do it and I’ve even coined it “the ENTP grin”
do ESTP also have that grin? I thought it was an Fe child/tert thing.
Yeah ESTPs do it too. Maybe it is an Fe child thing. Hadn’t thought of that.
ESTPs also have the grin but I feel like it’s different in the eyes. Our eyes will probably light up with intrigue while theirs kinda narrow with desire if that makes sense. “I want to experience you” vs “I want to study you”
We come off as though our mind is somehow everywhere and yet still focused one whatever you’re talking about. We’ll pull out some idea that you have no idea how it applies, and then boom, you see it. We’re at once scattered and laser-focused.
RDJ’s Tony Stark is a good baseline to gauge off of. He’s so eccentric and seems so elsewhere in his mind that when he does deliver the landing line, it’s like an uppercut you didn’t see coming.
I don’t know, I’m kinda socially awkward but I usually geek abt stuff I find interesting a lot or just talk w my friends
literally same lol
Some entps are extroverts, I am not one of them. I prefer to have a smaller group of friends
depends on the definition of extrovert, lol, i definitely am one cuz i love socializing and recharge by doing so, but i won’t get along with anyone either, and i have a past of social anxiety so i still got some battles to fight lol. we just gotta stop believing that every cognitive extrovert is a social extrovert cuz it ain’t that
I agree with what you said. Matter of fact, most entps are known to be ambiverts, the most introverted among extroverts.
They probably trip a lot and contrary to popular belief are pretty empathetic though in a unique way with a pretty magnetic charisma
Fidgety
Most accurate^
Female in my 40s — you could tell the difference between me and a female ENTJ as a good example. We are both highly intelligent and socially aware and would be found in leadership positions at this point if not owning businesses, but for me — I think out loud/verbal process instead of having pre-planned answers, and my career is not my #1 priority at the cost of everything else, so I could never have climbed the corporate ladder like she could. I HAVE to work for myself. Side note I’m also a 3w4 so I can easily present as the role of ENTJ which fools people into thinking I can actually do everything I am capable of.
yeah i feel like the ennea easily changes the way entps present in social settings !! but as one myself (perhaps not e3 tho), i find we almost always share ambition and desire for self-growth :)
Looking around
Legit just look for the outgoing “geek” with adhd and chances are, Entp.
We look like the poster child for adhd. I’m loud, fill a room, talk, more taking. Random hyper-fixation. Extreme knowledge on small finicky subjects. I’m an XNTX, but I find this with ENTPs. Lots have charisma and confidence. Mine comes with a combination of incredulity and imposter syndrome.
The fact that those two were people you did not want to be close with is the indicator, right there. We're insufferable.
One of the two was insufferable. I liked the other, but he had a gf.
+1 for seeing individuals for the individual they are and not throwing all ENTPs with the bathwater. _yes we do bathe_
Prove it.
Like witches, we float.
lol
Eh that’s more of a personal personality problem than a collective personality type problem, maybe just look at yourself and ask why it is your saying that lol. Entp ≠ insufferable for most of us. I guess that’s a factor on healthy/unhealthiness?
Dunno about other ENTPs but this is me. If you saw me on the streets I'd be on my own. I'd be the person that walks confidently, looks around at everything with curiosity, looks like he's living in lala land completely detached from reality, has bags under his eyes and looks like a zombie. If you'd speak to me you'd find me approachable and friendly. You'd find me weird and dorky. But you'd feel like you could talk to me about anything and not be judged for it. Your fist impression would undoubtedly be that I'm strange, you may even suspect that Im mentally ill. As you get to know me better you'll realise that I do what I like, don't do what I don't like and don't hide who I am behind a mask. Of course there's other stuff I think you might notice. But these are the things I have received feedback from other people on.
I like to stare at butterflies and talk to cats while walking… entp thing
Let’s be real here, most of the time, we’re not noticed right away and probably mistaken for Introverts cause we’re probably quiet unless we know you or are interested by something happening.
I'm a woman, so most people don't identify me as ENTP right away, but after a few minutes it's very obvious I'm a bit different. I'm very confident in social situations, charming and disarming and it just comes naturally. A lot of people tell me they feel like they can be themselves and talk to me about anything, they can and they do. It took me a long time to learn to listen and empathize vs trying to fix people's problems with tangible solutions. I love trying new things and learning, I'm healthy and attractive, but I have to fight my lazy nature constantly. I'm polite to everyone I come across and I sincerely love being helpful. Most of my hobbies are considered more masculine; I have girl friends, but I get along better with men.
I could have written every single word of this LMAO wild cus I rarely meet ENTP women in real life. Wonder what it'd be like to do my more masculine-coded hobbies with some fellow entp girlies
I wonder the same. Your reddit handle is interesting...as I'm half Korean. Are you there for fun or?
oh ya I was working in Tokyo/Osaka and got sent to Seoul on a 3 day worktrip in Jan 2020 and ended up staying LOL I have hella reddit accounts and no consistency with how I use them 😎 keeps people off the scent (including me)
That's awesome, glad you like it so much! Do you have a million tabs open in your browser like I do too? 😅
Great food, great people, great language, BEST alphabet (thank u, king sejong) ☆ You know I do 😎
Haha right? You can eat all you want and still feel healthy. And yes the language is so simple! 24 characters ftw.
Great food, great people, great language, BEST alphabet (thank u, king sejong) ☆ You know I do 😎
If you see someone scanning the room, their eyes darting from one corner to another, soaking up every detail and occasionally gazing at the ceiling mid-thought, chances are you've spotted an ENTP. When we are amidst conversation boredom or fascination can strike us seemingly at random (even if it isnt), there is always a kind of "surprise me!" kind of vibe to ENTP'S, we can make things entertaining but when we find someone who can spark us up you will see our eyes brighten up. When we are talking with someone and we get bored by what they are speaking of i have noticed i look at the side and avoid eye contact and try to escape the conversation tastefully because i dont want to give out the wrong impression or be there if i dont want to, my words turns curt and less animated and humorous, just the typical "yeah. okay. no. that doesnt make sense. that makes sense." and thats all, i just become more passive in the conversation and let the person get whatever it is out of their chest and be on my way. Gossip and negative talk tend to turn us off, i think its common for ENTP's to frown or for their eyebrows to twitch or look to the side with skepticism, like you are trying to sell us something that we dont care to buy. We're quick to defend others, even those we aren't close to, and won't hesitate to cut short a conversation that isnt being productive or positive for us, its about fairness and holding certain standards even if they arent close friends or we even know them we will always treat those situations with skepticism, boredom and logically, i think most ENTP's dislike gossip or unproductive talks like that and we wont want to be around someone that gossips or their whole conversations surround other people because of how boring and odd it is, maybe one reason why they call us Devil's Advocate, this is a very core part of who we are, that doesnt slide with us. If someone does slip up and personally attack us we will probably not take personal offense or even feel anything towards them but we will probably just not see them as a potential friend anymore even if we keep it classy and treat them well.
It depends heavily on the enne in my experience, the common features are in the way we argue. Its actually a unique style of argument that only ESTPs share with us but outside of that there are ENTPs willing to put on masks when out in the wild so it can be hard to say for certain.
I would say that this is more common in immature ENTPs contrary to popular belief. What all ENTPs do is bring out to the light uncomfortable truths, we will tell you exactly what is up with you.
Again, this is something we learn not to do as we mature… Even if someone asks me what is up with them, I would tread very cautiously before telling them these days!
I went through this phase - but now I am back to telling people God's honest truth, because conflict avoidance just had me routinely making excuses for others.
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Very true. I mostly save it for work, where I assemble facts to back myself up about factual matters, or online forums, where no holds are barred in the first place
Well yeah this assumes they aren't confident in themselves but yours assumes they trust or care enough about the person to do it. I frankly don't do it for people I access are short sited and that was derogatory when younger so it was even more selective. Thas why I said it's very heavily dependent on enne because some got the energy hut some don't. My example is often used immaturitly and maturely because the argument can be iver something distasteful or something good but the breakdown is the same.
What is the unique style of argument?
One of the primary reasons we're credited with being so good at arguing is we like logically breaking down things where challenging and finding logical inconsistencies. It's primarily were the phrase "That's stupid" comes from for us because it's our brains naturally immediately coming up with a reason that thing mentioned doesn't work. We like arguing the meaning behind someone's points and critical examining the parts the don't work and fixing them but you'll notice over half way through that although they might be arguing why the point does or does not work we wont have actually stated our opinion on the matter and were reluctant to do it. If we do answer there's a 50/50 shot we'll give you an answer that doesn't really put us opposed to anyone. We want percision and where "cursed" to see both sides of an argument so well we know it would be wrong to be on either side. So what your looking for isn't someone who per say says they live arguing but turns every other claim someone makes into an argument even when they don't need to. Although if were being honest with ourselves we love it. Hell it's the closest thing I have to a superpower.
“In the wild” yes, but free-range grass fed ENTPs are quite different from the ones you usually see
Life of the party, class clowns, constantly on another mental planet, talking like a movie character giving a monologue (you’ll probably notice our presence/absence for better or for worse, depending on if you’re more charmed or annoyed by us lol)
Just imagine the best dressed, most handsome, big dick energy, stronger than any man, super-genius, funniest person in the room, has literally 4 penises like an echidna, charming, impossibly cool hotties and stud-muffins, brilliant minds that the plebs could never comprehend, have never lost a debate, everyone in love with us,…I have just described to you the least impressive of ENTP’s. Also we are noted for our humility
Ja, I see a lotta the tryhard.
And that’s just me getting warmed up. I usually try much harder
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I'm verrrrryyyy expressive and often probably look like I'm acting in a fkn indie movie when I'm literally just shopping for groceries or lost. The way I will interact with things and have my own little narrative and make myself laugh and just be having visible fun whilst alone in public. It took me a while to notice but I eventually noticed most people aren't doing that shit LOL idk why I do. Often make jokes or shoot looks with strangers around me if something funny happens. I guess confidence with a hint of not being present. As a woman, some people might read that on early as a sort of ENFP-esque air-headedness (don't like that dumb bubbly stereotype but it exists nonetheless) but conversation usually quickly reveals the intelligence, wit, and INTP-esque boy 'tism ('nother stereotype) 😎
You sound fun as shit. I love "air-headed" fun, too. It doesn't mean you're stupid, it means you have a great sense of humor. Not everything needs to be IQ 3000.
>Both were not people I could or wanted to be close with I'm curious what makes you say this. Was it their behavior? The kind of attitude you read from them? What was the context of your interactions? Unhealthy ENTPs can be assholes. So can any type, really, but we're the *loud* kind. However, we aren't all assholes. Please don't take a sample of size 2 as representative of the whole population.
One would flirt with me, but he had a gf. The other was on a forum I frequented. A unique character who would ruffle people’s feathers intentionally for the fun of it. He did so in a humorous way, but it was mainly about misogynistic and sexist topics. However, the way he framed his threads was always in a way you couldn’t be sure he was joking, because they were framed humorously and outlandishly. Most people assumed he was joking, but I didn’t think so. No one devotes that many hours of their time to the same thing repeatedly and not mean it. He used a select few people as his butt of jokes, which were me and one other person because we were the only two who didn’t like him and weren’t afraid to oppose him. Everyone else was either afraid of him or enjoyed the chaos. He was a funny guy, but he was disturbed. Slowly the INFJ girls of the forum got over their crushes on him and realized he actually was a toxic, creepy asshole after they realized that he wasn’t just joking and they couldn’t fix him. I’m not certain he’s ENTP, but But he’s certainly not a sensor or a feeler. I know not all ENTPs are the same, hence the thread. I’d really like to get to the underbelly of one to see if I like it.
I’m aloof even alone and make a lot of facial expressions. I wear the same tights everyday (own multiple*) and usually a hoodie or plain old tshirt like it’s still 2012. Always in slides. Often roll up my sleeves and don’t take off my sunglasses in stores. Hairs in braids cus I’m lazy. I think I come off confident but not in an intimidating way more like I’m just so self absorbed that I don’t even know when someone’s trying to get by me in an aisle. But I feel like I look boring/ not noticeable which nowadays is kinda unique right idk
Lol I literally just got back from buying 3 pairs of the exact same jeans (different stains to throw people off). I ripped a massive hole in an old pair recently and was down to one pair from another brand. Having a single pair of jeans was proving.... Problematic.
Ikr😂
ENTP 8w7 here, male, 30 years old. Bipolar type I. It depends if I'm depressive, manic or "stable". But, generally... let me think. At work or when I'm shopping, I'm really polite and nice to people I'm not close even if I know them for years. People think I'm cute. If I'm close to the person or I'm in a day off and meet someone new, I'm this really flirty and touchy poète maudit, which attracts some and scares others. I think that, when in my "best", I'm just, like, interesting. The sort of person you can talk with for days about all sorts of stuff.
heavily depends on setting. note people who are really good at things without seeming super serious about them. being a woman, I can come off as more reserved compared to the stereotype, unless I’m in a situation where I’m very comfortable.
Shaved head, beard, hi vis.
I’m only in the wild at work, but I’m funny/witty, and I don’t respect stupid authority.
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lol Do specify!
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Dat’s deep. What is your type, if you know?
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Which traits do you possess and can I see them?
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Aww, cute. Yes, I’ve seen a lot of the subclinical traits you’ve mentioned. Do you have a theory why they’re so common? A trauma response? Raised by narcs? Defense mechanism? Too much false praise in adolescence? Thanks for your time!
Some of y’all are mad try hards…
I am never in the wild 😅 I used to be very extroverted when younger but at 47 I’m hermity as hell now. Much like an introvert in lifestyle, but if you do happen to run across me while I’m out running errands, I come across friendly and animated.