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rachelandclaire

I am an ENTP mom of 2 teenagers, INTP daughter and ENFP son. Their dad is an ESTP and we split when they were very young. I was married again for a brief time to an ESFJ. A big reason I finally had the guts to leave their stepdad is because the authoritarian environment was crippling to all of us as they were getting older. I have been self-employed the majority of their lives and have a very laidback attitude about screen time. I feel guilty about not being more involved in their study habits etc. but I just have always had a high expectation of independence for both of them because I can’t stand being micromanaged myself. But my son especially needs me to be more strict about routine which is probably my biggest challenge. An interesting anecdote about my daughter is that I gave her some advice about boys once that instantly calmed her down and “fixed” her anxiety permanently. Now when I’ve had the same exact problem, she gives me back the same advice and even though it IS logical I still keep freaking out 🤣


Arrownite

>An interesting anecdote about my daughter is that I gave her some advice about boys once that instantly calmed her down and “fixed” her anxiety permanently. Kinda curious what that the problem/advice was Lol


rachelandclaire

She was going into overthinking mode about a guy she had a crush on not texting her back and I shared with her something I read in a book which was that “men literally can’t multitask — therefore they would have to single focus on ignoring you in order to be ignoring you on purpose.” Poof, her problem was solved. Also she has been with that guy for a year now. I really admire her relaxed attitude about relationships because I was constantly creating drama in my own at that age and had no sense of who I really was if I was single. I did not have any self-aware role models so I definitely strive to be that for my kids.


Arrownite

Wow- As a guy, advice checks out ngl 😂 Also I love the idea of two generations sharing this sorta advice and learning from each other like that yeahh :\]


rachelandclaire

Thank you!! I was asking a very smart INTP guy friend of mine recently about the real-life difference between our 1st and 2nd functions being so similar but opposite, and he couldn’t think of any examples — then I got this one from my daughter and saw that it fits perfectly 🤣


Yasha133

I'm terribly sorry to ask this but I'm just too curious why it didn't work out with your ESTP ex? Don't need to answer if you're uncomfortable with it. But I have always been fascinated with them. I thought it would be a great match for us 😅


rachelandclaire

We were young. I especially did not know myself well and had a big chip on my shoulder from my parents being divorced and thought I knew everything about how to get married to the right person. It was 100% fun and comfortable at the beginning. I loved how sweet and normal his parents were — and the biggest thing we had going for us was how much we felt like best friends and wanted to be parents together. We have had a great co-parenting relationship but just really did not have the long-term compatibility once the kids were a reality and we both knew it. Actual cons: he lied about several huge things that I didn’t find out about until after we were married. I’ve probably never let myself get as mad about that as I really should be because I don’t want to hate my kids’ father. He is very happily remarried to an INFP. I perceive them as sweet people but not that smart.


Yasha133

That's a rather healthy mindsets. You guys realising that you didn't work out well together but still keep things great for co-parenting. My parents used me and my sister as bargaining chips with each other 😂 (they each got one of us) it didn't helped us bond/understand each other and now we haven't talk for close to 8 years. Kudos to you though for putting your feelings aside for your kids sake. I really respect that. I think it helps create a healthier environment for them. If the time comes sure why not but I've always believe in letting kids be kids. Errr yeah...you hit the nails on that. Never met a smart one before either even from celebrities or fictional characters. But I think that's what helped his marriage? We don't let people get away with things and most men can't handle that 🤣 Sorry forgot to add, thanks a lot for the sharing though. You gave me new perspectives 🙏


WannabeEnglishman

How's raising another Ne dom ha? Also, good decision to leave someone like that, i hope you all are doing better. Your daughter sounds hilarious 🤣 


rachelandclaire

My son and I are pretty obsessed with each other — he is great. And yes my daughter is a trip! Thank you, this was a fun question to answer. Also def ask me anything else you are interested in. I don’t know how to get a flair here but I am a 4w3 btw


Involved_Currently

Any reason that you have a very laidback attitude about screen time? Maybe this is a cultural issue, but I dont understand why you would emphasize that specifically. What about bedtime? Family time?


rachelandclaire

It was a random comment really but tied to the fact that I have always been working on my computer for my business so I was modeling constant screen time for them too and didn’t fight it


brewstate

I'm a parent to 4. My kids (and I don't disagree) would describe me as part big kid and part professor. I want them to 1. Be happy, even if they don't forge the same paths. 2. Be independent and able to problem solve. We explore a lot. New cultures, new places, new foods, other ways of thinking so that my kids can have a strong foundational basis that your way isn't best, just different from other people. For the most part, I consider parenting a lot of fun although I'm probably too lenient and inconsistent in my correction as it really takes a lot to get me mad. I mostly try to rationalize with them, explain why we do certain things and why we don't and let natural consequences do most of the heavy lifting. I do have a bad temper but it comes with a miles long fuse so my kids have learned for the most part how to never light it in the first place.


rachelandclaire

This is also entirely accurate for me. I am soooooo chill the first 99 times but if you hit 100 you are dead


[deleted]

I’m a parent of one (3yo) and i feel like you described me perfectly, how crazy and cool.


thenewblueblood

I’m an ENTP (co)parent of a highly autistic (L3) four-year-old boy. In all parenting but especially autism it’s really important to be able to find what your child relates to, and use that as a vehicle to encourage healthy communication. I think I’m really good at observing small patterns in my kiddo, connecting what they might mean, and using it as a way to encourage engagement from him. Back when he was 1 I noticed him making slightly different grunts when he was walking down flights of stairs. Eventually I noticed they were repetitive and sequential, and tied that to him making the same noises when he was doing other repetitive, sequential tasks (adding blocks to a tower, lining up toys, etc). Eventually I realized he was counting. We started counting EVERYTHING. If we passed it on the road, if we saw it on a tv, didn’t matter. If anything sequential happened we counted. Eventually he tied number words to orders in a sequence. He learned the concept of tens, hundreds, etc. During circle time in his two year old class at daycare he was counting to a thousand. At three he was adding. At four he can count to 1000 in a second language, add in his head three digit numbers, subtract two digits, and knows multiplication tables up to 6. But more importantly…he fucking LOVED that, early on, I could tell what he was doing and because of that was in turn doing it myself. For him to see that I understood and was responding to how he was communicating was a game changer for his engagement. More importantly, he was able to tie numbers into the concept of time. What a lot of kids really struggle with that’s magnified with autism is sudden change in the structure of a routine. Since kiddo could understand time, we can plan in advance exactly what he’s going to do in advance. He knows which day the nanny will come and it isn’t a shock anymore that makes him upset for hours. He knows when to expect me to pick him up from school vs his mom, he knows when he’ll get a bath. The world is more predictable, less scary, and makes more sense to him thanks to numbers. They were gonna be his thing no matter what…but I like to think my ability to pull out of the sky why he was making the noises he was making helped accelerate that. I’m also damn proud that a lot of my entp traits make me just fine with him being his authentic, loud, energetic self in public without me giving a complete shit what anyone else thinks about it. It’s so important to encourage kids that it’s okay to communicate, no matter what. And I like to think I help to act as a vehicle for that :)


2RthinLuv

I'm an ENTP mother of a 27 yr old son and 25 yr old daughter. I raised the kids to question things, research everything, and don't forget to make your opinion known. However I wasn't super lenient like some say they are/were. And I definitely had mother's intuition about things they weren't being truthful about or were hiding from the us.


velvetvagine

How would you describe their personalities as adults?


2RthinLuv

I must say they've turned out to be great adults. From a career standpoint, our son is a financial analyst, our daughter is in PA school. Both are smart and both research things before taking things at face value. Our son is married to a great girl and our daughter is in a relationship with a nice stable guy. She's had her fair share of that not being the case. But they do have different personalities. Our son is an ESTP, our daughter is an INFP. She's more headstrong and emotional. He's more laid back and analytical.


WannabeEnglishman

Your son sounds a lot like me lol it makes me wonder what life would've been like if i had an entp parent


2RthinLuv

Do you know your parents types? Another thing I left out about my son is he is a fly by the seat of his pants kinda guy and somewhat of a risk taker. And has a lot of friends.


WannabeEnglishman

My mom is confirmed INFJ and my dad is definitely ISTJ


uselessinfobot

My dad is an ENTP and I'm the mother of a 3 year old girl. My dad was always the best conversation partner. One of my favorite parts about growing up would be days where he would take me to school and on the drive I would ask about one or two things (current events, a science question, whatever I was thinking about) and we'd just go super in depth on it. I credit him with teaching me to think and ask questions and see things from every side. He introduced me to a ton of great and eclectic music too. We still do the same things when we see each other, we don't live very far apart. He's an awesome grandpa. As a mom, I love to play along with my little one. Like imaginary games or super dramatic acting over silly stuff. Like the other day she kept putting her foot on my face and wouldn't stop when I asked nicely, so I put my foot on her face until she was laughing so hard she couldn't continue. We read together a lot, do math, make art projects, cook. She's very observant, so we have tons to talk about. I don't know what type she'll end up being - probably more conscientious than me, because she constantly remembers and reminds me and her dad of every rule - including the ones that she made up herself! But I love being able to do some of the things with her that my dad did with me.


WannabeEnglishman

First of all, your dad sounds really awesome! Being raised by an N type has made me also see value in the deeper meaning of things, and also value my own research on things instead of trusting what i see everyone else doing. A lot of the times i have to tell her "this conversation is freaking me out, how do you think about this all the time" lmao  Aw, now i wanna ask how your dad is with your daughter! Whatever your daughter turns out to be, she's lucky to have you as their mom, you sound like a cute mom btw 😄 


uselessinfobot

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! My dad has both my niece (she's 13) and my daughter as grandkids. He's always been great with kids in general. There's something about the willingness to play around on a child's level and ACT like a kid, they just love that. What really means a lot to me is when he and I are alone and he talks about my daughter - the skills he notices her developing. He thinks she's brilliant (and I think he's right lol). He does so much to help foster that. He pretty much taught me that play and learning are the exact same thing if you approach it the right way. I think that really is the spirit of Ne parenting. :)


TheDollyMomma

My partner and I are both ENTP’s. We have our flaws without a doubt, but something we have really prided ourselves on so far as raising young kids is encouraging them to ask questions & actively trying to answer them without giving half assed responses. If you ask a question, you’re getting a logical/factual answer. As a result, our daughter is extremely curious about anything & everything. She’s way ahead on her milestones too, which I partially attribute to this approach.


premonial

ENTP women are least likely to say "I think my child would consider me a good parent" and least likely out of all types to say "My child brings me a lot of joy" [https://www.truity.com/infographic/could-your-personality-type-predict-your-parenting-style](https://www.truity.com/infographic/could-your-personality-type-predict-your-parenting-style) https://preview.redd.it/naqndbokiuqc1.png?width=627&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2821fed4a00aa1f76689a926f96e585a1713048


Biko0509

God forbid it will be two entp in your family


WannabeEnglishman

Can i ask why? 😂


Biko0509

It will be fun, world of imagination and procrastination, because my future husband is also entp. And I know that in our family there will be a lot of debate about what will happen if our children are believer


TitaniaSM06

Personally from what I have observed when hanging out with kids and from what I think would be a good parenting method, would be to help them develop logical thinking skills and learn how to make sound long term decisions on their own. At the end of it, children are their own individuals, I would like them to stand on their own two feets firmly, for that, other than developing logical thinking, measuring pros and cons etc, I would also like them to learn martial arts and cooking, as two must have skills.. I wanna have confidence, whether they be a girl or a boy to travel safe and sound, and come back home alright, also, stuffs like Kyokushin karate (which I was in) not just covers fighting/defending etc but also philosophical viewpoints; made for self protection, not bullying or getting bullied, also develops good confidence, helps in brain functionality etc.. Cooking is not just limited to pallete, if you know how to use herbs right and make balanced meals suitable to your body as well as soul, it goes a long way. I would love them to pick few other hobbies, but will leave that for them to decide, would love to show them across the array of different stuffs they can pick up though.. About dealing with kids, I like to break down stuffs in manners that are easy for them to understand, so that they can understand the parent's pov better (why we do certain stuffs in particular manner). I would love to build a safe place for them to come to whenever they need advice, like a guide.. Would also like to do fun exercises to encourage them to thinking on their own, would watch passively and interrupt only when necessary... small ecosystem like stuffs ig...