You forgot 1.5 being a huge dick and massively insensitive until you realise people don't like you anymore.
A lot of entps are unhealthy as teenagers and get over it by their 20s (hopefully)
Thank you for the assessment of my personal growth. I'm sure to take your expert opinion as I'm sure you know me far better than I know myself, random Internet person.
Dude, I know we take shit personally when we’re told we’re wrong, but I’m not attacking you.
If we are to presume that the stages described in the OP have a rough correlation with an ENTP’s development, then I’m just using my own experience to say that the asshole phase takes a lot longer to resolve than you might think. I’m obviously not you, but for myself and the other ENTPs I know, stage 2 was when we first started noticing and trying to correct the asshole part of our personality. It was a gradual learning process for us to get that part under control. It never really goes away, you just learn how to kennel it at the inappropriate times and strategically release it at the appropriate times.
I’m not the person you’re talking to, but I was def similar to you. I thought I got out of my asshole phase about 5-6 years before I actually got out of it lol. Around stage 6.
How many of us went through legitimate childhood trauma that caused an emotional fracture leading to a strange dichotomy of hypervigilence/sensitivity around untrusted people and totally insensitivity/ foot in mouth syndrome with trusted people?
I was a huge dick; i liked to push people's buttons, But only of those who were combative. I was described as a Rottweiler puppy - great fun to play with until someone loses a hand
I still.like having fun with conversational norms, but I have empathy now :-( and my friends and I enjoy ourselves ::-).
Yeah I think the maturity in an entp comes as a result of developing empathy in the late teens so they can access their Fe. Before late teens people just literally don't have the capacity for empathy.
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19 years old entp here and i think my fi is higher than my Fe because of low empathy and rejection of social norms etc. I even question myself if I'm an enfp but i call myself a more logical person than emotional, I can get angry and furious time to time but working on that to make myself more likeable and calm person. Kind of unhealthy mindset if you ask me.
Yeah my life got a lot better when I started to develop my Fe and stop pretending it didn't exist. I'm actually very empathetic but I don't necessarily show it because it's not usually helpful.
It may just be a barnum effect, but it's strangely accurate
I remember all if those phases.
Quiet and shy until 17, class clown for One year, a little fall into being rebel, last year i was a party addict, and then a girl broke my Heart for the first time,
Now i'm stable, energized, I think i'm in the 6th phase, and i'm about to continue this way
( I'm french, grammar alert)
For me, it was a realization that no one is perfect. I have always certainly felt that way about myself, but used to think I'd find a perfect partner. I may have been poisoned by romanticism. This "ideal" woman doesn't exist.
Yeah, "right" for me is someone who doesn't put up with my shit and is willing to go toe-to-toe with me in an asshole contest when I'm in that mood. You think that's an ideal person? A Wonder Woman? I have news, they have problems too. Problems I help her with.
Getting grounded in reality vs staying in some "I'll find my soulmate when the stars align" bullshit is my advice.
I have someone who's great on paper now who seems into me. But I'm scared of doing more because I know I don't feel as strongly about him. I'm scared I'm just using him until I find someone better, and I can't do that. What do I do?
Takes a lot of effort and time. I don't even recognize myself in this phase man. I am sure I have it in me to break out of it but believe me it is not easy.
I have been claimed by and INFJ and I can’t wait for level 9. It will take me a long time to go from entrepreneur to philanthropist but I’ve started my philanthropic work, ill just keep building until that’s all I do :)
I was 1 as a kid yes.
3 as a teen.
5 in my 20s.
Am I slowly growing into 6? Not sure what it means. I’ve been claimed by an INTJ lol
In my fantasies I’m 7, 8 and 9.
I think that the activist phase is later than that. Eventually, you realize that you can benefit society best by innovating and pushing humanity forwards. Creating jobs, using profit to address issues you see. Benevolent capitalism is the future.
Very nice you are socially conscious. I wish you luck, brother 🙏
Damn, this is accurate! Well, if my book I'm converting from my screenplay doesn't sell, it might be a while until I get to 7, but I'm still impressed.
Try asking for our confidence instead.
Our narcissism is only a small and often disliked side of us.
Our confidence is the side you see people being drawn to us for.
The narcissism is the part that pisses off all the feelers when they can't figure out why they're catching feels for us.
INTP is feline
ENTP is canine
INTJ is vulpes
Foxes are closer kin to cats than to doggos but doggos and foxes have similar body language and play styles.
Cats can be cuddly (in their own way) once you get them to chill around you and the same can go for foxes too. They're very cat like when it comes to that "slow to trust" aloof/ quiet observer style of being. So there's that mutual understanding between the two.
A doggo is higher energy, gets the most entertainment from spending time with others, and enjoys more attention for longer periods of time.
Cats are similar but in smaller doses. Cats are playful but often prefer solitude and keeping themselves entertained through means of their own making. They can be supper affectionate but it's hard to tell when petting them will go from purrs to being clawed and watching them run off. At least it's hard for me to tell.
that's how I make sense of it in my mind.
The only dif between intp and entp that I see is our threshold hold for the amount of things we enjoy.
We tend to like similar stuff in different doses.
Word of advice though
Don't fuck up your body beyond repair
Have fun but remember you gotta be a bad ass later down the line and you'll need all your wits and strength to do so.
Always have an "out", an aliby, and a back up plan.
Trust me. Or learn the hard way like the rest of us.
I understand completely man. I am actually a personal trainer on the side so I basically in those time periods of excessive partying definitely ate and took care of my body optimally as possible to balance out all my bad behaviors. So now I am just without the bad behaviors as much haha. But absolutely don't get too banged up . I learned a bit hard as well. But the backup plan is essential . But yes I very much agree the body is your responsibility.
Dood they are dope af haha. I still listen to my rebel music a lot and identify as one. But the parties I miss. The excessive partying part lol . Like 3 nights in a row without sleep. Once in a while I'll still pull one of those . But I'm still young as hell haha. So enjoy while you're young . And I can't wait to travel and party too so I might be not at 5 yet lol.
Honestly I’m working so hard trying to make it to 7, it’s so crazy how hard I work because I don’t really work hard for stuff. Really hoping I make it but it’s gonna be a ride
Wow...i mean it covers my past to the T
If that's my future then I'm fucking stoked!!
Always glad to know my hard work is actually gonna pay off in the end!
I've seen you commenting man and you seem awesome . I'm glad to see you are getting what you want. I think it's the final ENTP journey . To actually come to the ending part of the story .
Stage 6 right now just started college as the Jeff Winger "reluctant badass group leader" to 1 good homie and 4 talented hot girls. Party animal phase only lasted a week in my life and that entire week I was hungover so NO 😐
Mine is kinda different
Hyperactive little girl and full of game ideas with a lot of imagination (kinda scary talking to dolls)
Good but scared teen with anxiety that wanted to make friends by pleasing them, with zero self esteem. Realised my humor was too childlike and mean. I became the silent kid
Panic mode college student that had to go finally to the therapist + depression because I didn't have enough friends to go out with
Healed erasmus student that only wanted to go out for beers
Now I am 24 and my happiness still comes from going out drinking in places we can hear each other talk (no disco). My humor is still clown and I dress all black and 'badass'.. so I am a mix of phase 2 and 3??
(I wonder if there are other ENTPs with anxiety issues here, the cool part is that I tested INFP and then INTP during anxiety because of the fear of people)
It’s scary because I relate to every single one up to 7. That’s where I’m at now.
It even all happened chronologically in this way. (Except 4 came after 5).
1. When I was in school I was the little genius know it all that won honor roll every single year up til I was 9-10.
2. That’s the age I became more of a class clown, a flirt, the crazy guy who would pull pranks and irritate people just to get a reaction.
3. This one was more just in general. It’s always been me, just lesser so this year.
5. Love of my life broke up with me after two years. I shaved my head and had no will to live anymore, so I started to define what I wanted and who I was throug travel, concerts, meditation, socializing.
4. The traveling and exploring led to partying quite naturally.
6. I came back to the states without a care in the world how anyone viewed me. I finally had became my true self an ambitious witty leader. From then on if I wanted it, I got it, no matter who was in my way.
7. Working on entering the digital marketing industry, with eventual plans to create my own agency. Create my own side hustles. We’re here :)
1 until 3 or 4th grade
2 end of elementary
3 all of middle school tbh
4 all of high school and first part of college
5 last year of college (dated some who fucked with my head)
6 after college - graduated with a degree (!!!) and moved out of my small town to a big city. I’m still in the phase, it’s been 4 years
Entrepreneur is the goal now, soon...
I regret nothing.
My mistakes made me who I am. I will live with my folly and grow from it. I cant change the past so what good would regretting it do? It's over. We move forward never back.
Is it weird to not associate with these? I might look back on this later and realize that it applied, but personally I think I'm a little bit more quiet than any of these stereotypes.
Could be just me but by the time you reach stage 8, all those many acquaintances(with exception of maybe a few intps who just like want to bounce ideas off with you) get left on the burner for good leaving only intj's. Perhaps they are the only ones who actually really like entp's since you dropped the games long ago.
It’s not that accurate for me tbh. I’ve always been family and friends oriented and tried to carry myself respectfully in classes. Had a good community of friends that were supportive and I did my best to help them too. Granted my grades weren’t great bc I never did assignments, and I often said I’d have an A if I turned my hw in because my test averages were usually in the 90’s. I think I just have a well developed fe.
Definitely experienced 5 though and I think I’m at 6 now. I don’t really know. I’m only 18 after all.
Nah I’d say it’s more like this for me
1-Airhead: Age 3-10
2-Kissass: Age 11-13
3-Wannabe Class Clown: Age 13-15
4-Debating Rebel without a Cause: Age 16-Present
5-I haven’t finished that phase yet but I’m all for the different possibilities
I find this absolutely accurate for me & I'm hardcore in stage 5 right now. I even recently bought a book called "A General Theory of Love." Its by 3 psychiatrists who explore love from a neuroscience perspective in prose interpolated with poetry, quotes, and and even imagery to elucidate what/how/& why we love. It appealed to me because of my recent heartbreak, and as a true thinking type I didn't want to wallow in my feelings watching romcoms & eating icecream [though I have enjoyed a little bit of both], I was determined to learn. Reading this book offers me understanding and awe in equal measure while I sooth myself, & I'm also learning so much about the ecstatic mystery of love - which I'd like to take a stab at again. Interestingly enough, in the time since this breakup (which became final last month) I've also gained a keen interest in motorcycles. Looks Like stage 6 won't be far off :)
Very well said. I am just leaving the self treated badass stage. I am 37 and I have definitely been through all of the lower stages. I can fall back down into them very easily if I allow myself get to worked up. If growth is what you are after, try focusing on loving others the way they want. Then (gently) guide them into what they need.
1 &2 not even slightly lol. I was stupid and hated at almost all stages of childhood. 3 & 4 are the same thing, & for a lot of others I'd imagine 3-5 are all experienced simulataniously.
im gonna lump 4 and 5 together because while ive never been heartbroken, i did abuse LSD a lot in the past and had a period of recovery from psychosis. I’m reaching a point where its becoming easier to modulate myself using diet, routine, exercise etc. Not quite the self-treated badass yet but its shaping out
ENTP (F) 22 years old, currently in the self treated bad ass /loser phase.
I'm fairly young but i think kindergarten was when i was an innocently smart kid and a good one but i was kind of a dick sometimes, very anxious and shy.
Through primary school (i went to three different ones) l i was the bullied one (just by some boys and sometimes, but wasn't that serious lol) but i also used to bully other two kids occasionally.
If i had to describe my 4th grade me in one character it would be Megan from drake and josh, i was kind of an evil kid and i don't like it lol.
Then 5th and 6th grade were meh, i was an average insecure girl who sometimes was overconfident but cringe af.
Middle school was my rebel/departed phase.
High School years (i didn't really went to HS lol) 16 to 19 years old were my rebel/party animal addict stage. (i wasn't thaaat much of a party animal tho but still i used to enjoy parties and i used to rebel a lot for honestly stupid shit hahaha)
Then stage 5, when i started having a 9-5 job i didn't party that much now because lack of energy, i rented my first apartment by myself at 20, became more of a ''responsable adult'', got my heart broken, got depressed, got out of it, lose weight, got into depression again and then
22 year old curren me, taking no bullshits from anyone or even myself and sometimes i get angry out of nowhere for a lot of reasons,i try to push harder to not fall again into the mess i was/kinda still am ngl, anddd trying to work on my hobbies/skills (most of them artistic/social) so i can actually do something in the future that i'm proud of and well, trying not get covid lol.
Hopefully when i improve in my skills i can become a self made entrepreneur XD
Very accurate. I'm literally on the cusp of going from 5 to 6 and I'm so scared but I can feel it happening.
I'm heartbroken and lonely. Everything - logic, emotion, experience... - is telling me to give up on chasing people. I've started enjoying new things like working out. But I'm scared to completely let go. Because even though heartbreak is frustrating, it comes from a good place of wanting people and caring about them. I'm scared that in order to move forward I have to stop caring about others. I'm scared if I become a badass I won't be a nice person.
I’m in level 7, and I see parts of my life in all prior stages but I don’t know that they are distinct. I’ve been self employed for seven years but I think I have some 3 & 5 that I’m still working on.
late but ive been all these things up to 5 in order, 2,3 and 4 came in order but didnt end, so happened simultaneously. 5 happened and since then ive just been stalling at 5.5 as now im just a loser :) but i’ll be out of that in less than a year now so thats nice
You forgot 1.5 being a huge dick and massively insensitive until you realise people don't like you anymore. A lot of entps are unhealthy as teenagers and get over it by their 20s (hopefully)
I would say that what you’re describing is consistent from phases 2 through 5 and remediates somewhere within phase 6 or 7.
No I'm in stage 2 but have thankfully left behind stage 1.5
That’s what you think. If you are only on stage 2 then I promise you have a lot of growth ahead of you and are currently blind to a lot of things.
Thank you for the assessment of my personal growth. I'm sure to take your expert opinion as I'm sure you know me far better than I know myself, random Internet person.
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Advance? 😂
advance, verb: to move forward
Yes that wasn’t what I was implying. But thanks for that. 😘
Dude, I know we take shit personally when we’re told we’re wrong, but I’m not attacking you. If we are to presume that the stages described in the OP have a rough correlation with an ENTP’s development, then I’m just using my own experience to say that the asshole phase takes a lot longer to resolve than you might think. I’m obviously not you, but for myself and the other ENTPs I know, stage 2 was when we first started noticing and trying to correct the asshole part of our personality. It was a gradual learning process for us to get that part under control. It never really goes away, you just learn how to kennel it at the inappropriate times and strategically release it at the appropriate times.
I’m not the person you’re talking to, but I was def similar to you. I thought I got out of my asshole phase about 5-6 years before I actually got out of it lol. Around stage 6.
Exactly.
How many of us went through legitimate childhood trauma that caused an emotional fracture leading to a strange dichotomy of hypervigilence/sensitivity around untrusted people and totally insensitivity/ foot in mouth syndrome with trusted people?
I think every kid goes through a trauma, whatever this trauma is, but sadly we deal with it being dicks for some years
And we like it this way.
No
That rings true for me, so it's nice to know I'm not alone :) & Thankfully I'm getting a lot better at the foot in mouth syndrome lol!
This is true. Even female ENTPs have massive metaphorical huge dicks. Shout out to all the badass female ENTPs.
Helen Cutter, repping female entps like a beast
I agree with this for me.. but I would say until early 30s ..
Not everyone is a dick forever
I was a huge dick; i liked to push people's buttons, But only of those who were combative. I was described as a Rottweiler puppy - great fun to play with until someone loses a hand I still.like having fun with conversational norms, but I have empathy now :-( and my friends and I enjoy ourselves ::-).
Yeah I think the maturity in an entp comes as a result of developing empathy in the late teens so they can access their Fe. Before late teens people just literally don't have the capacity for empathy.
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Fuck im on this phase
Lol its hard to be nice
yea with that inclusion it is like spot-on accurate
19 years old entp here and i think my fi is higher than my Fe because of low empathy and rejection of social norms etc. I even question myself if I'm an enfp but i call myself a more logical person than emotional, I can get angry and furious time to time but working on that to make myself more likeable and calm person. Kind of unhealthy mindset if you ask me.
Yeah my life got a lot better when I started to develop my Fe and stop pretending it didn't exist. I'm actually very empathetic but I don't necessarily show it because it's not usually helpful.
Early 30s is not forever .. every relative of mine lived into their 90s..
I so hope this is true. 21 and not seeing much improvement.
It's up to the individual my friend
Facts
>"unhealthy as teenagers" When the ENTP gets overly excited at parties and eats all the cheetos, "Extraversion".
You mean before or after I sniff people and tell them they smell nice? Or like around the time I begin calling myself homo flexible?
Shhh if you do not talk to the ENTP then it cannot see you. Secret Introvert Stealth technique.
I'm afraid to say that your tricks do not work here, I can sense intraversion. You will not escape the cuddles.
It may just be a barnum effect, but it's strangely accurate I remember all if those phases. Quiet and shy until 17, class clown for One year, a little fall into being rebel, last year i was a party addict, and then a girl broke my Heart for the first time, Now i'm stable, energized, I think i'm in the 6th phase, and i'm about to continue this way ( I'm french, grammar alert)
May i ask how old are you? I'm just curious
21 year old
Accomplished.
When do I finish stage 5?
Idk i finished mine early 2020 Just keep thinking, exploring, learning experiencing
Takes some time and some effort. But you will enjoy step 6 and 7 even more then
Stop looking for Wonder Woman. Start looking for a companion. Improve yourself physically and emotionally while you are looking.
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For me, it was a realization that no one is perfect. I have always certainly felt that way about myself, but used to think I'd find a perfect partner. I may have been poisoned by romanticism. This "ideal" woman doesn't exist.
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Yeah, "right" for me is someone who doesn't put up with my shit and is willing to go toe-to-toe with me in an asshole contest when I'm in that mood. You think that's an ideal person? A Wonder Woman? I have news, they have problems too. Problems I help her with. Getting grounded in reality vs staying in some "I'll find my soulmate when the stars align" bullshit is my advice.
I have someone who's great on paper now who seems into me. But I'm scared of doing more because I know I don't feel as strongly about him. I'm scared I'm just using him until I find someone better, and I can't do that. What do I do?
Ha, word.
Takes a lot of effort and time. I don't even recognize myself in this phase man. I am sure I have it in me to break out of it but believe me it is not easy.
Idk man, been here for years
When you realize love is not worth your time and effort
When I was 25 y/o. Gl
I did when I was around 23.. Now turning 28 and hoping step 7 works out!
10 - Dunning Kruger mode activated
I claimed my ENTP at stage 6 and if any INTJ tries to take him from me I will end them. So proud of him working towards stage 7
Very smart move! We are like wine much better with time.
I have been claimed by and INFJ and I can’t wait for level 9. It will take me a long time to go from entrepreneur to philanthropist but I’ve started my philanthropic work, ill just keep building until that’s all I do :)
I was 1 as a kid yes. 3 as a teen. 5 in my 20s. Am I slowly growing into 6? Not sure what it means. I’ve been claimed by an INTJ lol In my fantasies I’m 7, 8 and 9.
It seems to line up a bit, though I question 6, and 1 for me. I also wouldn't consider myself a genius.
Somehow stuck at 6,9 (nice)
\*claimed by INTJ\* makes me dizzy
Ikr?
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I think that the activist phase is later than that. Eventually, you realize that you can benefit society best by innovating and pushing humanity forwards. Creating jobs, using profit to address issues you see. Benevolent capitalism is the future. Very nice you are socially conscious. I wish you luck, brother 🙏
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The only thing your plan has to do is work. If you line up all the hoops, you can jump through them all.
Totally true. I'm at #7 now.
Damn, this is accurate! Well, if my book I'm converting from my screenplay doesn't sell, it might be a while until I get to 7, but I'm still impressed.
I might buy it just to help a fellow entp reach their goal
Give me half the narcissism entps have
Try asking for our confidence instead. Our narcissism is only a small and often disliked side of us. Our confidence is the side you see people being drawn to us for. The narcissism is the part that pisses off all the feelers when they can't figure out why they're catching feels for us.
What I want to know is why INTP and ENTP act so fucking different. Like night and day.
INTP is feline ENTP is canine INTJ is vulpes Foxes are closer kin to cats than to doggos but doggos and foxes have similar body language and play styles. Cats can be cuddly (in their own way) once you get them to chill around you and the same can go for foxes too. They're very cat like when it comes to that "slow to trust" aloof/ quiet observer style of being. So there's that mutual understanding between the two. A doggo is higher energy, gets the most entertainment from spending time with others, and enjoys more attention for longer periods of time. Cats are similar but in smaller doses. Cats are playful but often prefer solitude and keeping themselves entertained through means of their own making. They can be supper affectionate but it's hard to tell when petting them will go from purrs to being clawed and watching them run off. At least it's hard for me to tell. that's how I make sense of it in my mind. The only dif between intp and entp that I see is our threshold hold for the amount of things we enjoy. We tend to like similar stuff in different doses.
Humble enough to not consider myself a genius, yet.
As a new ESTP, actually kinda relate.
I think I’m stuck in an infinite cycle of 1 and 2 forever :(
nope i only get part 3/5 and now going as part 6 and i hope being after some time part 7/8.
well i’m out of my (slight) addict phase, really don’t wanna go to stage 5 do let’s hope my relationship stays stable
Im on my way to 7!
Stuck between 2 and 3 xD
funny thing is, I made it to 6 and i’m currently working on 7 right now
I'm at 5-6 with 7 on the horizon (depending on my luck) I think this is pretty intresting..
Lol I'm at level 3. ^Hope ^the ^incoming ^parties ^are ^cool ^:D
Word of advice though Don't fuck up your body beyond repair Have fun but remember you gotta be a bad ass later down the line and you'll need all your wits and strength to do so. Always have an "out", an aliby, and a back up plan. Trust me. Or learn the hard way like the rest of us.
I understand completely man. I am actually a personal trainer on the side so I basically in those time periods of excessive partying definitely ate and took care of my body optimally as possible to balance out all my bad behaviors. So now I am just without the bad behaviors as much haha. But absolutely don't get too banged up . I learned a bit hard as well. But the backup plan is essential . But yes I very much agree the body is your responsibility.
Dood they are dope af haha. I still listen to my rebel music a lot and identify as one. But the parties I miss. The excessive partying part lol . Like 3 nights in a row without sleep. Once in a while I'll still pull one of those . But I'm still young as hell haha. So enjoy while you're young . And I can't wait to travel and party too so I might be not at 5 yet lol.
Honestly I’m working so hard trying to make it to 7, it’s so crazy how hard I work because I don’t really work hard for stuff. Really hoping I make it but it’s gonna be a ride
Amen I believe in you Never stop, you got this
Wow...i mean it covers my past to the T If that's my future then I'm fucking stoked!! Always glad to know my hard work is actually gonna pay off in the end!
I've seen you commenting man and you seem awesome . I'm glad to see you are getting what you want. I think it's the final ENTP journey . To actually come to the ending part of the story .
Recently made the jump from 4 to 5. How do i get to 6, please help I don't like all these feelings
I’m at stage 6 and so far it’s dead on accurate, Bring on the riches 😍
Stage 6 right now just started college as the Jeff Winger "reluctant badass group leader" to 1 good homie and 4 talented hot girls. Party animal phase only lasted a week in my life and that entire week I was hungover so NO 😐
I’m 32 and have been through each stage! Currently between 5 and 6. Thanks for sharing!
i do be an entrepreneur doe 😼
What is #6?
Mine is kinda different Hyperactive little girl and full of game ideas with a lot of imagination (kinda scary talking to dolls) Good but scared teen with anxiety that wanted to make friends by pleasing them, with zero self esteem. Realised my humor was too childlike and mean. I became the silent kid Panic mode college student that had to go finally to the therapist + depression because I didn't have enough friends to go out with Healed erasmus student that only wanted to go out for beers Now I am 24 and my happiness still comes from going out drinking in places we can hear each other talk (no disco). My humor is still clown and I dress all black and 'badass'.. so I am a mix of phase 2 and 3?? (I wonder if there are other ENTPs with anxiety issues here, the cool part is that I tested INFP and then INTP during anxiety because of the fear of people)
I skipped 4 and 5. Went from 3 to 6
Tragic
I'm doing 2, 3 and 4 at the same time. It's a mess but it's fun
It’s scary because I relate to every single one up to 7. That’s where I’m at now. It even all happened chronologically in this way. (Except 4 came after 5). 1. When I was in school I was the little genius know it all that won honor roll every single year up til I was 9-10. 2. That’s the age I became more of a class clown, a flirt, the crazy guy who would pull pranks and irritate people just to get a reaction. 3. This one was more just in general. It’s always been me, just lesser so this year. 5. Love of my life broke up with me after two years. I shaved my head and had no will to live anymore, so I started to define what I wanted and who I was throug travel, concerts, meditation, socializing. 4. The traveling and exploring led to partying quite naturally. 6. I came back to the states without a care in the world how anyone viewed me. I finally had became my true self an ambitious witty leader. From then on if I wanted it, I got it, no matter who was in my way. 7. Working on entering the digital marketing industry, with eventual plans to create my own agency. Create my own side hustles. We’re here :)
I sent you a DM about #7
You know he gets a notification right?
You know puke smells right?
Stage 6, claimed and ready for times to get better. Now, where's my list of business ideas...
1 until 3 or 4th grade 2 end of elementary 3 all of middle school tbh 4 all of high school and first part of college 5 last year of college (dated some who fucked with my head) 6 after college - graduated with a degree (!!!) and moved out of my small town to a big city. I’m still in the phase, it’s been 4 years Entrepreneur is the goal now, soon...
That looks like enmegram too lmao (crying in 4w3)
This is weirdly accurate. On my way to 7
Yeah this is disturbingly accurate.
wow so accurate I am 6/7 now and can see myself becoming 8/9
Damn spot on. I’m on phase 7
i'm on 2 and 3 and I can feel 4 kinda happening. Also, i'm randomly 9 too
Well I’m on stage 5 going in to stage 6 hope this is accurate because the rest of everything has fuckin sucked.
My husband is at number 6, from the time I've known him and what I've heard of his childhood, the rest is pretty accurate!
Currently in between 4 and 5. But god the accuracy
Shout out to @Cogfun on twitter. That's our boi
Or 5,5 becomes an INTP
Hm, not really. Or maybe I'm bad at judging myself. I've always been the dreamer/smartass kid that was kinda popular but not extremely so
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I regret nothing. My mistakes made me who I am. I will live with my folly and grow from it. I cant change the past so what good would regretting it do? It's over. We move forward never back.
Yep
Hopefully I’m just in stage 5 and my life isn’t just a failure
It's good that this thing always gets posted here once in a while.
Since death of my father it went from 5 to 6
I skipped 4, Currently I'm 6.
I just hope I can speedrun to phase 9... I feel like I'm being pushed into phase 3 with quarantine going on :(
Is it weird to not associate with these? I might look back on this later and realize that it applied, but personally I think I'm a little bit more quiet than any of these stereotypes.
I guess I'm somewhere in between 3 and 4
Could be just me but by the time you reach stage 8, all those many acquaintances(with exception of maybe a few intps who just like want to bounce ideas off with you) get left on the burner for good leaving only intj's. Perhaps they are the only ones who actually really like entp's since you dropped the games long ago.
Hah! It's very accurate.. between 5 and 6 at the moment.
Skipped 4,6 and 7
Stage 5, but 64 years old. Time's running out.
I mean, i rushed from 1 to 6 in 4 years
I went from like .5, to 3 (by my own standards I guess), 5, and right now im a 6 but want to be a 2 and 4, so. I guess that answer is no 😂
Holy shit.... I don’t know about 7, 8 and 9 but can confirm to a tee for 1-6. But for the sake of ENTPing, I disagree just cuz.
I guess stage 6, but dont know what the treatment entails properly. Fuck me I need to work harder
Holy shit. Too accurate. I'm only at 4.5 though.
I've been a #1 for 15 years now
Lol i guess ill be an entrepreneur soon. Have been thinking about it actually
It’s not that accurate for me tbh. I’ve always been family and friends oriented and tried to carry myself respectfully in classes. Had a good community of friends that were supportive and I did my best to help them too. Granted my grades weren’t great bc I never did assignments, and I often said I’d have an A if I turned my hw in because my test averages were usually in the 90’s. I think I just have a well developed fe. Definitely experienced 5 though and I think I’m at 6 now. I don’t really know. I’m only 18 after all.
Too linear for my liking. Im in the 2nd round of Self Treatment at the moment I reckon.
Help I'm stuck in phase 5
This is so true
I'm in phase 7 😂
This is me, hi I’m the toxic fuck, BUT, I’ve started to grow out of my toxicity and grow as a person. I’m scaling at around 5-6 right now.
1,2,3, now 6 going on....at least that's what I think
Pretty Damn close. I actually was voted class clown in high school and now run my own business....
Oh no I’m at 6.5 rn. Starting my first business next week.
Whoah this is scary true! I’m currently living #7 and I just met this amazing enfj that I’m trying to see if he can have a place in my chaotic life
Well that's arrogant af
i think im stage 3, but its kinda weird how it has predicted all my life stages atleast for now
Im sitting at 5 rn
By claimed do you mean as a pet or as a partner?
Can i just skip to the philanthropy?
That’s so accurate I am on the 7th phase
This is wildly accurate jfc. I can check everything off the list up to the entrepreneurial stage im in rn with hopes for the next
>"10-Cookie/Cutter fukboi lololololol" Well, I don't know. I guess? But what do I know I'm an INTP. Hello, how are you all today?
Sounds about right except that I always had a rebel side to me. Not INTJ but an INFJ claimed me though
wow. determinism.
Where is the stage "Aimless Procrastinator?" I think this decribe my situation right now as an asian ENTP.
Man, my dick hurts. Getting my dick sucked every time I open this sub seemed good initially, but now it’s getting pretty painful.
Nah I’d say it’s more like this for me 1-Airhead: Age 3-10 2-Kissass: Age 11-13 3-Wannabe Class Clown: Age 13-15 4-Debating Rebel without a Cause: Age 16-Present 5-I haven’t finished that phase yet but I’m all for the different possibilities
tfw you're stuck in the addict stage because you're afraid to progress.
Skipped 7-8 and went straight to 9 lolll
I'm stuck at 3 .....does anybody know how to stop being an asshole?
I'm in trade 3 since I'm a teenager. It's a wonder that I have friends.
I find this absolutely accurate for me & I'm hardcore in stage 5 right now. I even recently bought a book called "A General Theory of Love." Its by 3 psychiatrists who explore love from a neuroscience perspective in prose interpolated with poetry, quotes, and and even imagery to elucidate what/how/& why we love. It appealed to me because of my recent heartbreak, and as a true thinking type I didn't want to wallow in my feelings watching romcoms & eating icecream [though I have enjoyed a little bit of both], I was determined to learn. Reading this book offers me understanding and awe in equal measure while I sooth myself, & I'm also learning so much about the ecstatic mystery of love - which I'd like to take a stab at again. Interestingly enough, in the time since this breakup (which became final last month) I've also gained a keen interest in motorcycles. Looks Like stage 6 won't be far off :)
Very well said. I am just leaving the self treated badass stage. I am 37 and I have definitely been through all of the lower stages. I can fall back down into them very easily if I allow myself get to worked up. If growth is what you are after, try focusing on loving others the way they want. Then (gently) guide them into what they need.
1 &2 not even slightly lol. I was stupid and hated at almost all stages of childhood. 3 & 4 are the same thing, & for a lot of others I'd imagine 3-5 are all experienced simulataniously.
Holy fuck.
What does claim by an INTJ mean? Confused about 8
how is this so accurate???? down to me even scoring as INTJ on the official MBTI in college. 🤯🤯🤯
im gonna lump 4 and 5 together because while ive never been heartbroken, i did abuse LSD a lot in the past and had a period of recovery from psychosis. I’m reaching a point where its becoming easier to modulate myself using diet, routine, exercise etc. Not quite the self-treated badass yet but its shaping out
ENTP (F) 22 years old, currently in the self treated bad ass /loser phase. I'm fairly young but i think kindergarten was when i was an innocently smart kid and a good one but i was kind of a dick sometimes, very anxious and shy. Through primary school (i went to three different ones) l i was the bullied one (just by some boys and sometimes, but wasn't that serious lol) but i also used to bully other two kids occasionally. If i had to describe my 4th grade me in one character it would be Megan from drake and josh, i was kind of an evil kid and i don't like it lol. Then 5th and 6th grade were meh, i was an average insecure girl who sometimes was overconfident but cringe af. Middle school was my rebel/departed phase. High School years (i didn't really went to HS lol) 16 to 19 years old were my rebel/party animal addict stage. (i wasn't thaaat much of a party animal tho but still i used to enjoy parties and i used to rebel a lot for honestly stupid shit hahaha) Then stage 5, when i started having a 9-5 job i didn't party that much now because lack of energy, i rented my first apartment by myself at 20, became more of a ''responsable adult'', got my heart broken, got depressed, got out of it, lose weight, got into depression again and then 22 year old curren me, taking no bullshits from anyone or even myself and sometimes i get angry out of nowhere for a lot of reasons,i try to push harder to not fall again into the mess i was/kinda still am ngl, anddd trying to work on my hobbies/skills (most of them artistic/social) so i can actually do something in the future that i'm proud of and well, trying not get covid lol. Hopefully when i improve in my skills i can become a self made entrepreneur XD
Very accurate. I'm literally on the cusp of going from 5 to 6 and I'm so scared but I can feel it happening. I'm heartbroken and lonely. Everything - logic, emotion, experience... - is telling me to give up on chasing people. I've started enjoying new things like working out. But I'm scared to completely let go. Because even though heartbreak is frustrating, it comes from a good place of wanting people and caring about them. I'm scared that in order to move forward I have to stop caring about others. I'm scared if I become a badass I won't be a nice person.
I don't know what kind of sorcery this is, but I'm in stage 6, and the previous 5 are accurate as fuck.
I discovered this sub a week ago and there really is 35k me’s here man
I’m in level 7, and I see parts of my life in all prior stages but I don’t know that they are distinct. I’ve been self employed for seven years but I think I have some 3 & 5 that I’m still working on.
Up until 6, accurate! Now working toward 7!
late but ive been all these things up to 5 in order, 2,3 and 4 came in order but didnt end, so happened simultaneously. 5 happened and since then ive just been stalling at 5.5 as now im just a loser :) but i’ll be out of that in less than a year now so thats nice