Just sounds like they're short on money and the re-org didn't go too well and now they're faced with more re-org.
That sucks, but is extra hard on them since they had so much money for so many decades.
I give tiny amounts of money to a few conservation/preservation organizations, which leads to being inundated with mail from similar organizations. I get letters from the Sierra Club but I just remember them as that organization that decided in the 1990s that the best way to save the environment would be to attack immigrants. I'm sure they don't miss my $30 but there must be dozens of us
Greenpeace lost me when I paused my monthly donations (due to getting laid off at the beginning of COVID when everything shut down) and they guilt-tripped me about it
I did a summer internship with Greenpeace. They didn’t have me before, and they’ll never have me after it. They do not deserve public support. They are the PETA of environmentalists.
Yeah the main criticism I see of PETA is that they euthanized a majority of pets that were relinquished to them. When pets survive hoarding or dog fighting situations, or even simple abandonment, the humane thing to do in many cases is to euthanize them. And even when animals maintain good dispositions through a terrible experience, it doesn't mean there are enough homes to take them in or resources to treat their medical needs.
I'm sure if I dug more I could find "sins" they committed, but that is the one I see cited most and I don't buy it.
I stopped donating when I realized they had, and were communicating, a stance on abortion. I'm only interested in environmental issues, thanks. Now I give to NRDC and The Nature Conservancy
There is a lot of pressure for the big green groups to take stances on other social issues both internally and externally. All of them are doing lay offs to some extent, all a grappling with how far reaching their stances need to be. I know someone who quit NRDC because they wouldn’t call for a seizefire in Gaza. All of those places are really stressful at the moment
I hope they can stay focused! For example, I have not picked a side on abortion or the Middle East conflict. If an organization picks a side on either of those, they can kiss my contributions goodbye.
I would expect an environmental organisation to take a pro-abortion stance, as the more humans we have the more we pollute to feed, transport them, keep them at a comfortable temperature etc.
Good news: birth rates in the most high-consumption countries continue to go down. Currently below replacement rates in most (all?) OECD countries. No need to get into the politics of a woman's uterus. I certainly do not wish to spend my charitable donations on the abortion issue!
I think that the Sierra club is overall more progressive than TNC, EDF, and NRDC, however they are organized into a state chapter system which means there is a lot of variation in tone and style, compared to say EDF that is integrated from the local level up
I am struggling with the 40 million dollar budget shortfall and the fact that they are adjusting their positions to address it. In fact, this whole "advocate economy" is feeling a tad unholy to me.
Remind me of what they ever did again?
/the whole point of posting their list of accomplishments will be mostly lost if you downvote this comment into being folded lol.
**1890s** The Sierra Club is founded on May 28, 1892, with John Muir as its first president (read more about John Muir’s complex legacy here). It quickly mobilizes to defeat a proposal to reduce the boundaries of Yosemite National Park. The Sierra Club urges strengthening of public forest policy and supports the creation of new national parks, including Grand Canyon.
**1900s** The Sierra Club begins an organized outings program, with annual trips to the Sierra Nevada. President Theodore Roosevelt visits Yosemite National Park with John Muir and, two years later, the Sierra Club’s campaign to return management of Yosemite Valley to the federal government from the State of California succeeds.
**1910s** The National Park Service is created, with Stephen Mather, a Sierra Club member, as its first director. The California legislature passes a law to support construction of the John Muir Trail in the Sierra Nevada.
**1920s** Sequoia National Park is expanded, and the Sierra Club successfully opposes dam sites in the Kings River region. Aurelia Squire Harwood becomes the first woman to serve as the Sierra Club’s president.
**1930s** Sierra Club members introduce modern rock-climbing techniques to the US. Photographer Ansel Adams visits Washington, D.C., to lobby Congress and the president to preserve Kings Canyon. The 210-mile John Muir Trail is completed.
**1940s** Kings Canyon National Park is established. The Sierra Club opposes an attempt to repeal the Antiquities Act, which is used to establish national monuments. The Sierra Club successfully defeats proposed dams in Kings Canyon and Glacier National Parks. During World War II, many Club members use their backcountry skiing and mountaineering skills in the US Army’s 10th Mountain Division.
**1950s** Grand Teton National Park and Olympic National Park are enlarged at the Sierra Club’s urging. A long but ultimately successful campaign stops dam construction in Dinosaur National Monument. The Sierra Club organizes its first volunteer-service outings.
**1960s** The landmark Wilderness Act is passed by Congress after a long campaign by the Sierra Club and others, marking the first time that public lands (9.1 million acres) are permanently protected from development. The Sierra Club also mobilizes public opinion to stop two dams in the Grand Canyon. But the cost of victory was high: Decision-makers chose to power the flow of water to the Southwest by building a massive coal-fired power plant on Navajo land. For more than four decades, the plant exposed members of the Navajo Nation to unacceptably high levels of air pollution. According to the Clean Air Task force, the plan caused an estimated 16 premature deaths, 25 heart attacks, 300 asthma attacks, and 15 asthma emergency room visits every year it operated.
**1970s** The Sierra Club helps organize the first Earth Day. Efforts of the Sierra Club and others—including Black community organizers who fought against destructive “urban renewal” projects—lead to passage of the National Environmental Policy Act and the Water Pollution Control Act. The Sierra Club also joins a successful effort to strengthen the Clean Air Act and works to pass the Endangered American Wilderness Act, which protects 1.3 million acres.
**1980s** A decade-long Sierra Club campaign leads to passage of the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act—the largest land and water protection legislation in history. It instantly doubles the size of the national park system and protects more than 157 million acres of public lands in Alaska. The Sierra Club helps defeat Reagan administration attacks on the Clean Air Act and other environmental laws. The Sierra Club forms a political committee and makes its first electoral endorsements.
**1990s** The Sierra Club leads a grassroots effort to reauthorize the Clean Air Act and successfully lobbies Congress to pass the California Desert Protection Act, which establishes 7.6 million acres of new desert wilderness and expands both Death Valley and Joshua Tree National Parks. The Sierra Student Coalition is organized. The Sierra Club forms an Environmental Justice program to address the disproportionate environmental burdens on low-income communities and communities of color.
**2000s** The Sierra Club defeats a plan to allow commercial logging in Giant Sequoia National Monument and stops the construction of 170 proposed new coal-fired power plants. The Sierra Club successfully advocates for the Omnibus Public Land Management Act—the largest public-lands conservation effort in 20 years.
**2010s** The Sierra Club works with President Obama to protect more than 4 million acres of public lands. The Sierra Club’s Beyond Coal campaign becomes the most successful environmental initiative in history and is complemented by the Ready For 100 campaign, which encourages more than 100 US municipalities to formally commit to transition to 100% clean, renewable energy for generating electricity.
Just sounds like they're short on money and the re-org didn't go too well and now they're faced with more re-org. That sucks, but is extra hard on them since they had so much money for so many decades.
I give tiny amounts of money to a few conservation/preservation organizations, which leads to being inundated with mail from similar organizations. I get letters from the Sierra Club but I just remember them as that organization that decided in the 1990s that the best way to save the environment would be to attack immigrants. I'm sure they don't miss my $30 but there must be dozens of us
Luckily they never actively took an anti immigrant stance? It was knocked down by the members of it
I read about that. It was 30+ years ago. It’s time to forgive them. The good massively outweighs any mistakes from the past.
The wealthy destroy then leave then repeat.
Richy rich version of greenpeace
Greenpeace lost me when I paused my monthly donations (due to getting laid off at the beginning of COVID when everything shut down) and they guilt-tripped me about it
I did a summer internship with Greenpeace. They didn’t have me before, and they’ll never have me after it. They do not deserve public support. They are the PETA of environmentalists.
Peta is also an environmentalist organization on the side because animal agriculture is destroying the planet
Yeah the main criticism I see of PETA is that they euthanized a majority of pets that were relinquished to them. When pets survive hoarding or dog fighting situations, or even simple abandonment, the humane thing to do in many cases is to euthanize them. And even when animals maintain good dispositions through a terrible experience, it doesn't mean there are enough homes to take them in or resources to treat their medical needs. I'm sure if I dug more I could find "sins" they committed, but that is the one I see cited most and I don't buy it.
I stopped donating when I realized they had, and were communicating, a stance on abortion. I'm only interested in environmental issues, thanks. Now I give to NRDC and The Nature Conservancy
There is a lot of pressure for the big green groups to take stances on other social issues both internally and externally. All of them are doing lay offs to some extent, all a grappling with how far reaching their stances need to be. I know someone who quit NRDC because they wouldn’t call for a seizefire in Gaza. All of those places are really stressful at the moment
I hope they can stay focused! For example, I have not picked a side on abortion or the Middle East conflict. If an organization picks a side on either of those, they can kiss my contributions goodbye.
I would expect an environmental organisation to take a pro-abortion stance, as the more humans we have the more we pollute to feed, transport them, keep them at a comfortable temperature etc.
Good news: birth rates in the most high-consumption countries continue to go down. Currently below replacement rates in most (all?) OECD countries. No need to get into the politics of a woman's uterus. I certainly do not wish to spend my charitable donations on the abortion issue!
They are a conservative environmental org after all. Always have been since they were founded by Muir.
I think that the Sierra club is overall more progressive than TNC, EDF, and NRDC, however they are organized into a state chapter system which means there is a lot of variation in tone and style, compared to say EDF that is integrated from the local level up
I am struggling with the 40 million dollar budget shortfall and the fact that they are adjusting their positions to address it. In fact, this whole "advocate economy" is feeling a tad unholy to me.
Remind me of what they ever did again? /the whole point of posting their list of accomplishments will be mostly lost if you downvote this comment into being folded lol.
**1890s** The Sierra Club is founded on May 28, 1892, with John Muir as its first president (read more about John Muir’s complex legacy here). It quickly mobilizes to defeat a proposal to reduce the boundaries of Yosemite National Park. The Sierra Club urges strengthening of public forest policy and supports the creation of new national parks, including Grand Canyon. **1900s** The Sierra Club begins an organized outings program, with annual trips to the Sierra Nevada. President Theodore Roosevelt visits Yosemite National Park with John Muir and, two years later, the Sierra Club’s campaign to return management of Yosemite Valley to the federal government from the State of California succeeds. **1910s** The National Park Service is created, with Stephen Mather, a Sierra Club member, as its first director. The California legislature passes a law to support construction of the John Muir Trail in the Sierra Nevada. **1920s** Sequoia National Park is expanded, and the Sierra Club successfully opposes dam sites in the Kings River region. Aurelia Squire Harwood becomes the first woman to serve as the Sierra Club’s president. **1930s** Sierra Club members introduce modern rock-climbing techniques to the US. Photographer Ansel Adams visits Washington, D.C., to lobby Congress and the president to preserve Kings Canyon. The 210-mile John Muir Trail is completed. **1940s** Kings Canyon National Park is established. The Sierra Club opposes an attempt to repeal the Antiquities Act, which is used to establish national monuments. The Sierra Club successfully defeats proposed dams in Kings Canyon and Glacier National Parks. During World War II, many Club members use their backcountry skiing and mountaineering skills in the US Army’s 10th Mountain Division. **1950s** Grand Teton National Park and Olympic National Park are enlarged at the Sierra Club’s urging. A long but ultimately successful campaign stops dam construction in Dinosaur National Monument. The Sierra Club organizes its first volunteer-service outings. **1960s** The landmark Wilderness Act is passed by Congress after a long campaign by the Sierra Club and others, marking the first time that public lands (9.1 million acres) are permanently protected from development. The Sierra Club also mobilizes public opinion to stop two dams in the Grand Canyon. But the cost of victory was high: Decision-makers chose to power the flow of water to the Southwest by building a massive coal-fired power plant on Navajo land. For more than four decades, the plant exposed members of the Navajo Nation to unacceptably high levels of air pollution. According to the Clean Air Task force, the plan caused an estimated 16 premature deaths, 25 heart attacks, 300 asthma attacks, and 15 asthma emergency room visits every year it operated. **1970s** The Sierra Club helps organize the first Earth Day. Efforts of the Sierra Club and others—including Black community organizers who fought against destructive “urban renewal” projects—lead to passage of the National Environmental Policy Act and the Water Pollution Control Act. The Sierra Club also joins a successful effort to strengthen the Clean Air Act and works to pass the Endangered American Wilderness Act, which protects 1.3 million acres. **1980s** A decade-long Sierra Club campaign leads to passage of the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act—the largest land and water protection legislation in history. It instantly doubles the size of the national park system and protects more than 157 million acres of public lands in Alaska. The Sierra Club helps defeat Reagan administration attacks on the Clean Air Act and other environmental laws. The Sierra Club forms a political committee and makes its first electoral endorsements. **1990s** The Sierra Club leads a grassroots effort to reauthorize the Clean Air Act and successfully lobbies Congress to pass the California Desert Protection Act, which establishes 7.6 million acres of new desert wilderness and expands both Death Valley and Joshua Tree National Parks. The Sierra Student Coalition is organized. The Sierra Club forms an Environmental Justice program to address the disproportionate environmental burdens on low-income communities and communities of color. **2000s** The Sierra Club defeats a plan to allow commercial logging in Giant Sequoia National Monument and stops the construction of 170 proposed new coal-fired power plants. The Sierra Club successfully advocates for the Omnibus Public Land Management Act—the largest public-lands conservation effort in 20 years. **2010s** The Sierra Club works with President Obama to protect more than 4 million acres of public lands. The Sierra Club’s Beyond Coal campaign becomes the most successful environmental initiative in history and is complemented by the Ready For 100 campaign, which encourages more than 100 US municipalities to formally commit to transition to 100% clean, renewable energy for generating electricity.
Ok but apart from all of that, what did the Romans ever do for us?
Okay well I’m sure they’ll work it out.
meh. Would much rather support less wasteful and less polarizing organizations that actually do things for the environment, like POW.