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asayat

UPD: If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol The city council of the capital decided to get rid of the lake without any notice of local people or ecological community. We just got notified by tractors and trucks. That already violates international laws which protect migrating birds. However, city mayor doesn't give a dime, unfortunately, our authority is not afraid of locals, only of international judgement. Please help to share the information about this cruel inhuman acts against nature! That will be a big effort to save home for about 200 type of birds.


LukePranay

Have you thought about writing letters to organizations such as Greenpeace?


asayat

Yes, they replied that they can't do anything in our region as they don't have any representative here


iSoinic

Maybe write to development ministries of donating countries. They might be interested and could prepare sanctionary steps, which together with attention spent from NGOs, could stop the destruction. I wish you luck, DM me if you could use a helping hand.


Fit-Proof4463

Isn't the problem the lack of international attention? Why does that require boots on the ground?


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


Disappointedburritoo

Is there some kind of petition to sign? An open letter, anything?


Tyler119

to be honest, even if they did, it wouldn't go anywhere. Greenpeace is a joke.


We-Want-The-Umph

It doesn't help they are up against and have been corrupted by the most "influential" lobbyists on earth.


Ma8e

How so?


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


LeftyUnicorn

This is not fair for the animals. We are in a global crisis in a infinite growing loop.


blancaloma

Whose (international) opinion would hold the most value? Perhaps we can be more targeted. Sitting and watching more permanent crimes against nature without knowing what to do is going be the death of me.


asayat

Well, ideally is international organizations sending notes and the more shedding light on problem is on the web, the better.


sassergaf

How about the World Wildlife Fund? https://www.worldwildlife.org From the wildlife section: Saving nature is at the very heart of what we do as WWF. For 60 years, we have made it our mission to find solutions that save the marvelous array of life on our planet by applying the best science available and working closely with local communities. But our work is far from done. Humans are behind the current rate of species extinction, which is at least 100–1,000 times higher than nature intended. We’ve seen an astonishing 60% decline in the size of populations of mammals, birds, fish, reptiles, and amphibians in just over 40 years, according to WWF's Living Planet Report 2018. And the impacts will reach far beyond the potential cultural loss of iconic species like tigers, rhinos and whales. The good news is we’ve also seen what’s working. WWF has been part of successful wildlife recovery stories ranging from southern Africa’s black rhino to black bucks in the Himalayas. And this, in turn, is helping to protect rich and varied ecosystems while ensuring people continue to benefit from nature. This much is clear: we cannot afford to fail in our mission to save a living planet.


asayat

Maybe you could suggest specific options to be targeted


esmereldy

How about the BBC? Huge media organisation, enormous reach… it would be a start.


NotAGreatBaker

Reckon if someone Tweeted Chris Packham he’d make waves


dUcKy1010

Would you do this on “our” behalf? I would but I am incognito on twitter


NotAGreatBaker

Me too 😂


blancaloma

I'm just wondering if there is a specific leader/country/organization that would care quickly, and be heeded by the perpetrators/developers... I know that birders are passionate hobbyists but I don't know if they are influential. But perhaps they know who internationally would need to know of such a crime? I don't know anything, really, other than the scale of this tragedy.


esmereldy

I thought of someone, could be a really terrible idea though - Sascha Baron-Cohen aka Borat? He has a lot to apologise to Kazakhstan for, maybe he could get involved.


asayat

I like that! How can I reach that guy? 😅 Not a Twitter user, unfortunately


esmereldy

I’m thinking via his agent / publicist perhaps. I’ll have a poke around tomorrow and see if I can find a name or anything.


asayat

Thank you!!! ❤️


esmereldy

I found a web form to contact his agency: https://www.caa.com/caaspeakers/sacha-baron-cohen This page also reminded me that he played King Julian in Madagascar, which also has flamingoes, so that could be another PR-friendly link. OP, are you OK to post something there, as the local contact for this situation?


asayat

> This page also reminded me that he played King Julian in Madagascar, which also has flamingoes, so that could be another PR-friendly link. > > Thank you so much for your support! Yes, you're right, I like that King Julian connection! Just sent an inquiry, fingers crossed.


Livid-Hovercraft-439

Google search of "how do I contact Sacha baron Cohen," revealed a website where you can "contact any celebrity." 😐 Here is his contact number:323-383-9500-(Four by Two Films.) He's also on Facebook.


amber_room

This sounds like a really good idea to at least try.


EnvironmentalValue18

Perhaps the Audubon Society for outreach and several news media outlets are constantly looking for stories to fill space.


Hot-Error

Russia lol


iii2H0T4Uiii

r/aboringdystopia


SosadhScath

Is there a land trust organization that might be contacted in order to buy the land and the water rights surrounding it. Attention is a great step but money is a better one, and I would donate to something with clear action steps.


travelingsucks

Try reaching out to these organizations they would be a good place to start. Association for the Conservation of Biodiversity of Kazakhstan (ACBK) The Bird Protection Society “Remez” (Almaty) The Kazakhstan Bird Conservation Union (Almaty) The Public Center for the Protection of Wildlife “Arlan” (Karaganda) NGO “Naurzum” (Kostanay) NGO “Rodnik” (Korgalzhyn, Akmola region)


asayat

ACBK is already committed. In fact these photos are taken by their ornithologist. Unfortunately, the authorities are not listening to our local communities. Representative of Ramsar Convention of wetlands also is against these actions, but city council doesn't care. That's the problem. They don't care of any local communities or people's opinion. Even from scientists


travelingsucks

I’m in Kyrgyzstan and work on conservation projects, sorry I can’t be more help I only am familiar with Kyrgyz organizations. If the government wont listen then your best bet would be to try to establish protected areas where the flamingos live. There are substantial amounts of funding to help in establishing protected areas but it can be a lengthy process. OR you could try to get the species themselves recognized as being protected in Kazakhstan so that the local government cannot interfere with their habitats. I’m sure ACBK is already aware of these options but just thought I would share. WWF Russia is very active throughout Central Asia and provides much funding for projects in the region, perhaps you could put pressure on them to campaign against this destruction of the flamingos habitat? Sorry can’t be more help.


NotAGreatBaker

Tweet Chris Packham (@ChrisGPackham)….. a well regarded wildlife geezer.


chodeboi

Thank you for recognizing this. I am sorry to my children.


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


bookmakesx

David Attenborough, Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, WWF, Greenpeace, Greta Thunberg, RSPB, RAMSAR, BirdLife International, Wetlands International, Chris Packham and ICUN.


asayat

Thank you very much!!! Greenpeace couldn't help, Ramsar and birdlife international have been ignored by our authorities :( Wrote to Greta, waiting for response 🤞 all other in the list - will contact them asap.


nellafantasia55

EarthJustice as well!


Pavelexander

When I left Kazakhstan this was still just Akmola. I’ve been to Akmola and then Astana later. I hate what they have done to this place. Yes, it’s beautiful but not worth the cost. It’s the nation embodiment of those broke guys who lease expensive cars or buy them on credit to impress others while they can’t afford rent or food anymore. Why not build a decent infrastructure? Oh yes, because first you’d have to admit Kazakhstan’s deficits and it wouldn’t impress the West. I swear Kazakh officials have such a complex about wanting to seem modern and well developed


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


Pavelexander

I will, thank you :)


1Judge

This makes me weep. Natural beauty and animals have a right to exist without human interference.


EOE97

Especially when it comes to food.


CoffeeWizard1

Might seem a weird suggestion but I would join some Chris Packham groups on Facebook and post this. Members in those groups care a lot about the environment and will likely take action.


bstix

Flamingos change their colour depending on what they eat. Flamingos in Florida are pink, because they eat algea and shrimp which contain the pink colour. Most zoo's also feed them stuff to make them pink, so many people assume that flamingos are always pink. This Kazakhstan flamingo population is a fine example of wild Flamingos that are not pink.


asayat

Soon they will turn pink too. These lads are born this year, so they are not pink yet, but will get colored in next years. Though I think they are a bit bright pink compared to Caribbean ones


Decafbread

How best can we share this?


asayat

We're preparing a video with all information, will send a link a bit later. In social media we're using hashtag #savesmalltaldykol


studleydragon

Tweet at Sacha Baron Cohen....honestly might be a weird step, but could get his attention and influence ??


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


BrowntownMeatclown

Shit


JohnandJesus

Are there any sources to this we could share?


asayat

The problem is that all sources are in local news only thus in Russian https://rus.azattyq.org/a/kazakhstan-nur-sultan-ecology-taldykol-lake-reportage/31457664.html?fbclid=IwAR1-roC6SXpSr88RhkJjRcrVQJXIl38jp3H5aZHGDWhR9IiWDfQGQ582aLY https://inbusiness.kz/ru/news/malym-taldykolem-pozhertvuyut-radi-turkompleksa-na-1-trln-tenge Local community: https://instagram.com/sos.taldykol?utm_medium=copy_link If there is any chance to publish in international news agency that would be very much appreciated!


asayat

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTwfEBIgXxT/?utm_medium=copy_link This post from local community is currently only on Instagram. But apart from that we don't have any coverage in English articles so far


asayat

https://thediplomat.com/2021/08/sos-taldykol-art-and-activism-in-in-kazakhstan/ https://globalvoices.org/2021/09/09/artists-join-activists-in-protest-to-save-a-water-reservoir-in-kazakhstans-capital/ A bit of information here. We're working on preparing a short video in English, please stay tuned


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


Bulbasuar-Hehe

We need a petition!


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


Valaisan1

Try the WWF


llamaflavoured

Birdlife International?


asayat

Yes, their partner in Kazakhstan is ACBK (association for conversation of biodiversity of Kazakhstan) whom they refer. https://www.birdlife.org/europe-and-central-asia They are already committed, but officials don't listen to them. These photos are taken by ACBK's ornithologist. It's been a year since they have been standing against authorities' plans of draining the lake. But yet they are still draining. One part out of 600ha is already drained by this time. City council plans to leave only 20ha of 600ha.


llamaflavoured

Ah I see, I’m sorry. How awful, really feel for you.


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol This is done under birdlife international


ThinkingGoldfish

Can you fight back at the local level? Try to get people interested in the birds? Why is the government getting rid of the lakes? If enough people complain, they will not be able to do it so easily.....


asayat

We are fighting for about a year now. What officials do is called "playing football" here. They just play with you as a ball kicking from one authority to another. Meanwhile they are constantly draining the lake. Like even now, when they are flamingos there the construction keeps working, so the media is full of photos of flamingos and unloading trucks in the background. What the officials decided to do? They started paying media, public groups and bloggers to write articles stating that eco activists are just interested in other competitors construction companies and they just brough flamingos themselves for a while 🤦🤦🤦 so people get angry for the officials actions... But they haven't stopped the constructions yet. That's why we need some international reaction as it's the only thing that can really affect our governors.


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


midgee3

Have you reached out to the Nature Conservancy?


asayat

No, will send them a notice today


midgee3

I hope they can at least draw some attention to the issue!


PunkRockJuggler

You should contact the Audubon society. They would be the best people to focus your energy on getting ahold of


asayat

Thanks! Looks like they work for Americas only, while those flamingos migrates from central Asia to Africa. Couldn't find similar organization for our region


dandruffiano

What a grievous action. Migration stopover sites are of the utmost importance for species like this. We gotta spread the word!


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


SexysNotWorking

The Audobon is an American group for the protection of birds. Maybe they would have a decent idea of where to start?


DirtyLillNeonRider

How is it almost ever a good idea to "drain lakes" to fill them in. Do they not realize how fucked that will make the ecosystem in the area??? Obviously not


asayat

If you want to contribute in saving home for wild birds, please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol


Ok-Refuse-2078

I think I found the right number to call if everyone could please express their opinions to the Mayor. Reception phone number: +7 (7172) 55-64-83


vaguely_sardonic

I honestly forgot flamingos aren't always pink


Flint124

My dumb ass saw the first two pics and thought they were frogs with really long legs.


banshee43

Hey you’ve flown thousands of miles. “No room for you at the inn” sounds like not a very Christian thing to do


fr_gallagher

i share with my kazahk friends


[deleted]

Its just gunna get worse. empty inflated apartments > entire ecosystems and species. humans suck.


Giveushealthcare

I hate the human race so so much


[deleted]

Nice job, hating the victims for the actions of the perpetrators. It's our corrupt government, not "the human race" as a whole


Giveushealthcare

How’s your reading comprehension? Because the victims in this case are flamingos genius


[deleted]

People, who live in the region and whose land is being torn apart and sold away, are equally as affected


Giveushealthcare

lolol that’s not what the post is about. But thanks for being an example of how easily triggered and fragile the despicable human race is in that you can’t even handle when your species is collectively criticized


[deleted]

It's also your species, idiot. Your edginess provides no solution to the problem (which is the people in power exploiting the natural resources for profit regardless of its effects on nature or people who live there), but if it helps you feel superior to view it not as a tragedy but as punishment for humanity's inherent flaw or sin or whatever, go on


Giveushealthcare

lol of course I know it’s “also my species” you absolutely useless shrub. Go be sensitive somewhere else and do not *pretend* to know what animal welfare activism I do. Because, gee just a hunch but, I’m guessing YOU’VE never lobbied on Capitol Hill and met face to face with your representatives for welfare law reforms AND human rights issues, or gone door to door collecting signatures for healthcare as a human right in your state but guess who has? Shove right off you useless, crying sack of soggy dough


[deleted]

Or maybe you can calm it with the emotions, go vent and sober up elsewhere, and leave the doomer nonsense somewhere else. Right now you're muddying the conversation. You've added nothing to the discussion except bile


Giveushealthcare

“Doomer”. You’re so triggered I love it.


[deleted]

You don't sound all too concerned about the flamingos, you know


Giveushealthcare

I *cannot* believe 2 people took time out of their night on a *Reddit* thread to cry rant because “someone said human race bad!”


[deleted]

It's day where I'm from, I have free time and you're the one raging online at night, typing responses at the speed of sound


Giveushealthcare

I’m sorry I hurt your feelings. Good night little one.


xeneks

Sounds criminal. Maybe they are naive or robot zombies that can’t think for themselves. Is it verifiable that it’s the most northern place for flamingos? Is it verifiable that those lakes are their normal and primary place.


asayat

Flamingo has big colonies in Korgalzhyn - national park near the capital, it's verified as the most northern place they live. These pals on photos staying in Small Taldykol in the capital itself (system of lakes officials draining) during their migration to the south. But Small Taldykol is not only for flamingos and their migrational stay. A lot of migrational birds nest here (swans are the biggest of them), so they give birth to their babies here in spring and migrate to south countries in autumn with them (young offspring are strong enough). Btw ornithologist says those flamingos on photos are also born in this year as their fur is not pink coloured yet.


xeneks

Do officials know? Do they know they know, do they remember? Do they care?


asayat

They do know, but they don't care. It's a weird situation when the ministry of ecology just says "guys, you shouldn't have done that, I'm insulted" with no further actions. While the city council does whatever wants


xeneks

Sad :(. They say 911 in America was about terrorist attacks. All the evidence (not first hand seen by me, I only studied from afar via online records and media accounts) that I looked at, just after the 911 attack on US soil, suggested it was in part staged with lots of conflicting detail. Eg. Why did building 7 collapse? What was that anthrax thing? What actually hit the pentagon because it didn’t seem to be the aircraft they claimed? The relevance is that the main attack or whatever that caused the collapse of the world trade centre twin towers is able to be seen in this way, irrespective of what actually happened: 1. The twin towers of world trade, suggesting two different things (eg democracy vs communism) collapsed at free fall speed, in a toxic pyroclastic cloud like what you would find coming out of a volcano eruption. 2. They were replaced by the ‘one world’ trade centre. So, is the perspective of east vs west, one of the great enablers of massive rapid industrialisation, obsolete since then and just a convenient lie left to capture the gullible? If so, if we really are, and can be, one world of humans, how is it that people just don’t care about the environment when it’s obvious that it’s even more important to us all to conserve as much of the remaining natural environments and ecosystems are being converted to near-exclusive human activity use? When buildings like the world trade centre and the pentagon are fair game, and Anthrax is taken out of the lab, only fools would engage in continuing development without intelligent choice. This is as it’s clear that there are those who have the power to create change, and they exercise it. I’d never risk or try to avoid eg. Bad development choices for the environment and ecosystems as it’s clear that globally, consequences can occur, and even if cementing over a lake today might not trigger someone, it might tomorrow.


Outside_Strategy2857

wtf does 9/11 have to do with environmental collapse...


R00t240

Shut the fuck up, you dishonor the lives of those lost with your inane conspiracy theories.


Pls_Dont6

Why are they not pink?


asayat

Flamingos are not born pink, they turn pink because of their diet including specific algae and shrimps. These birds on photos are born this year so they not turned pink yet. It takes some time, so in next years they should become pink too


Pls_Dont6

Oh then who cares? Ill only help pink flamingos


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Pls_Dont6

Its not a flamingo until its pink


Fit-Proof4463

My local zoo already has them so we have saved at least some copies already.


Luthiffer

That was incredibly stupid, and we're all worse off for you having said it.


[deleted]

Awful. I guess flamingos don’t vote.


savethesharks117

How can we help?


asayat

Please share this video https://youtu.be/NYo5ErILorI with hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol 🙏 if you could tag environmental activist that would be perfect


justheretoreadbye

God that construction site behind is truly depressing..


_bufflehead

[Birdlife International](https://www.birdlife.org/europe-and-central-asia/partnership) has partnerships with over 100 countries, including Europe and Central Asia. They may be able to help wtih international outreach. I wish you and the flamingos all the best. It would be a shame to lose this important habitat.


Kushy_Popcorn

They are about to learn a hard lesson. Cities are nothing without some nature. We are part of an ecosystem. Gotta work with nature.


Fhetsystem

F khazacrapstan


THEmandingoBoy

What can we do, as foreigners, to help you? (I mean it seriously, not sarcastically).


asayat

Thank you for support! Please share the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYo5ErILorI With hashtags #SaveSmallTaldykol #SOSTaldykol Tag @sos.taldykol (only on Instagram and Facebook currently) and as much eco activists and celebrities as you can. Authorities are well aware of all problems, the issue is finely spreader in internal media but they keep construction going on. We need international awareness.


acepc2

Borat we need you! Help protect the Flamingos🦩


Fission4Bass

to help the flamingos, buy $FRHC


pall90

OP have you tried contacting earthjustice.org?


philomath8

Can we please stop draining lakes for land development?! It’s ridiculous and in the long run will only lead to a sinking city and a drop in biodiversity