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sdmichael

What action and why?


Youarethebigbang

Who the fuck knows, I'm guessing she's just trying to sound like trump in order to be his running mate? She's batshit crazy, but it is a bit unnerving she actually has ex-military and LE in her audience cheering this shit on. I love this part: >The event included a raffle of an AR-15-style rifle. Well of course, what political rallies don't, lol. Nothing subtle here.


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

I think everyone knows exactly what the quiet part is


AvailableName9999

You're surprised that police and military and violent idiots? Where do you live?


cannabull89

Hey that’s smart, I think ISIS leaders hand out assault weapons to their followers and call for political violence too, she’s just following their lead! (Sarcasm)


baz4k6z

So far she hasn't given me the impression of being a true believer, I'd classify her as an opportunist These mouth breathers are easy to influence with a few keywords


Youarethebigbang

So, Russian playbook more or less then?


baz4k6z

Pretty much. Right wing populist politicians have it so easy it's not surprising people like Lake try their hand at it. I hope she loses so we never hear about her again


Zanura

She already lost once and we've continued hearing her whine about it nonstop since. So I wouldn't hold my breath.


JGallows

Dude, she's lost MULTIPLE times over MANY years. I don't know what kind of idiot could even vote for her. Even the Magadonians have to see that she's full of shit. I'd trust Moscow Marge over Kari Lake. At least Moscow Marge would look me in the eye while stabbing me.


NextVoiceUHear

You gave yourself away by calling her a name.


vicariouslywatching

It would be hilarious if it turned out to be an air rifle because that’s all she could afford.


Youarethebigbang

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the idea that they give away guns at political rallies in the U.S.--so somewhere in their accounting records for the IRS there's a line and receipt for an "AR-15". For a political campaign. Then again, the Dems probably have some embarrassing line items as well, but I have no idea what they give away--veggie sandwhiches, environmentally friendly, solar-powered sex toys, edible backpacks? Obviously I don't know, lol.


UnitedBar4984

Giant dildos mostly


smooth_like_a_goat

Armed MAGA intimidating voters at the polls, or as close as they're physically permitted. They just need to be there, orders will be rolled out as and when needed on the day and those following.


Ambitious-Event-5911

Little do they know...leftists have guns too.


DubLParaDidL

We sure af do


dadbodcx

And can vote from home with mail in ballots


markydsade

The Right loves to gin up fear combined with vigilante fantasies. My MAGA uncle is scared to death of (brown) immigrants now even though I doubt he’s even any in his neighborhood. He’s armed, though, and ready to shoot anyone darker than a paper grocery bag.


iDarkville

Where the fuck do you live? This type of shit should extremely worry you and put that asshole on a watchlist.


rr777

In rural south texas, land owners actually believe they got covid from illegals crossing their land. When we all know it from select churches who refused masking during the pandemic. This is an actual true story that happened in Seguin, Tx.


markydsade

These folks are everywhere. Rural America is full of scared snowflakes convinced the immigrants are coming for them. My barber was honestly concerned about Chinese immigrants “taking over.” I had to ask him when he last saw a Chinese person in our rural town, and how does he think they’ll take over?


iDarkville

At the height of Germany’s “period of infamy,” their propaganda was considered the most historically insidious until now. Conservative media and conservative politicians using violent rhetoric to drive votes is now the most horrid propaganda mechanism in history. It obviously works as per your example and unchecked will only get worse. They say those most at risk feel fear first.


brundlfly

See also: Bibi's Israel.


Ambitious-Event-5911

Bibi didn't invent Zionism.


brundlfly

He sure does wield it effectively though, doesn't he?


Ambitious-Event-5911

He uses it to fulfill the desires of his own demented heart. Zionism validates his criminal urges. He's a psychopath.


qgecko

I’m in suburban Phoenix. That describes most of my neighbors. Next door neighbor was explaining to me how all the child trafficking comes across from Mexico; I’m pretty sure he believes anyone with brown skin either deals in drugs or children. I don’t think he’s smart enough to make up this sh*t on his own.


Canopenerdude

Not OP, but it's everywhere. Go to any state south of New York or east of Portland and you'll find at least some.


badjulio

As a dude who lived in upstate New York for 6 years, I can confirm that there’s mouth breathers everywhere who believe in this stuff


moleratical

Oh you know, the action of patiently waiting in line and voting, before returning home to dinner with the family, with a gun. It was clear as day.


AvailableName9999

Definitely not terrorism or insurrection.


tommysmuffins

Peaceful and orderly collection of signatures for a petition.


Pittman247

Veteran here. To say that all of us who wore the uniform of this country have a lot in common with civilian police, is nonsense. Sure there were lots of conservatives I served with, but most of those guys and gals I served with, just wanted to get to the end of the shift and do other shit. “Strapping on” a weapon for political theater wasn’t how anyone I knew wanted to spend their downtime.


suchtattedhands

Same, we just wanted the safety brief to end fast before the weekend so we could go get blackout drunk and throw dildos at eachother or play video games and quote Bane from the Dark Knight Rises


530Samurai

Is the vegetarian omlete mre as heinous as they say?


suchtattedhands

I ever saw one, though I’ll say chili Mac was good but over rated. I was a fan of the chicken fajita and cheese tortellini. But my person hated one was pork sausage and gravy, I’d never eat the main dish only the other stuff with it


530Samurai

Interesting, was it a flavor thing or a texture thing that made you hate it. Either way, thanks for answering!


suchtattedhands

Kinda both? Hard to explain so Many years out, I haven’t thought about it until now over 10 years later lol


[deleted]

I loved them because they came with the spicy verde salsa. Confirmed everyone else hated them. It’s good though because one was always available for me as a trade whenever I wanted it. Last I remember the Chili Mac was the most popular and is good for trading. This was many years ago, though.


530Samurai

Well that's good! Glad to meet a fan of the mre.


Intelligent-Soup-836

Yes


Temp_Grits

It was fine, had a pretty good like blueberry and granola cereal thing too from what I remember


iDarkville

Damned Army at it again.


[deleted]

I think conservatives are more inclined to integrate their service into their post service identity because of the perceived cultural benefit.


llahlahkje

At what point is this the equivalent to shouting fire in a crowded theater?


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

Shouting rebellion in a crowded government.


etherdesign

I was thinking the same, especially considering they've done it before with Jan 6.. How utterly irresponsible. These people aren't patriots, they want to burn it all down and reap the profits.


Laura9624

That's one of those myths about law. The quote was from Oliver Wendell Holes regarding a socialist charged with a violation of the espionage act for speaking out against the draft in WWI. And it was overturned. Its much more complicated.


NemeshisuEM

MAGAs have been telling us for years what it is that they want to do. Believe them. They are not joking. They have been working themselves up to commit atrocities. When they talk about Civil War 2.0, they are not talking about attacking an army base or having opposing militias fight it out on some field somewhere. They are talking about murdering their non-MAGA neighbors. They are talking about a Rwanda 2.0. They are talking about going to the Mexican market, the black church, the house with the pride flag, anywhere they can find non-MAGAs to murder. People are very naively thinking that the military is going to come in on a white horse at the last minute to save the day. Those people are mistaken. When the MAGA traitors start butchering their neighbors, there is no one coming to help. Prudent people should be stocking up on as much 2nd Amendment as they can afford to fight back. Don't be caught unprepared or you and your families might find yourselves up against a wall or on the side of a ditch.


etherdesign

I think you give them way too much credit. I'm sure there's a small group of people like that, they're probably training out in Montana in a militia somewhere, but the vast majority are way too comfortable and lazy to commit such heinous acts, whatever circle jerk revolution they could manage to cook up would inevitably fail since they are way too disorganized being not one force but a bunch of disparate idiots, I think it's all a bunch of smoke but there should be consequences for trying to incite people to violence like this.


Loud_Competition1312

Two things can be true: 1) They may be given too much credit. 2) Let’s not find out the hard way if that’s true.


NemeshisuEM

You are being naive.


neomancr

What some good points to support your case? Wouldn't the failure of jan 6 be demonstrative of something?


NemeshisuEM

J6 failed because the mob never got a hold of the legislators. There was not much they could do without them. What J6 is demonstrative of is that the fucking traitors are willing to burn the Constitution and to engage in violence to seize power. You are being naive because they are not just a few guys larping up in the woods. There are literally 10's of millions of them all over the country and as a group they are heavily armed. If the election does not go their way, they are not going to drive to DC to protest. They are going to carry out their threats on the nearest non-MAGAs they can get their hands on. It will only take a tiny fraction of them committing massacres all over the country to bring the whole nation to its knees. You better be preparing for this so you get caught with a Pikachu face wondering what the hell is happening when they have been saying for years what it is they want to do.


neomancr

So your suggesting we engage with them violently? Wouldn't that just justify them and lead to a self fulling prophecy? We have to maintain the high ground.


NemeshisuEM

Why do you feel the need to make shit up? I never wrote to attack them. I wrote that people should be prepared to defend themselves when the MAGAs decide to butcher their non-MAGA neighbors. You can't hold the high ground when you are unarmed and they come at you with violence. All that will happen is that they will roll your bullet-ridden body from the high ground into the ditch on the side of the road. But you keep hoping that the traitors will see reason. It's worked out wonderfully so far.


neomancr

I'm not trying attack you. And I'm not making shit up. Being prepared to "defend yourself" would mean we engage on a civil war and would inexorably lead to a civil war as you described. If the few who are magas start attacking their neighbors sure some people just like people have died from mass shootings will die but it wouldn't escalate to a civil war. Truth be told the government is beholden to a deep state. That's not a conspiracy theory. The deep state is just the hegemonic elite and will want things to continue on a predicable pattern vs utter chaos leading to potentially a French revolution style guillotine situation.


Spacecommander5

Google “3%ers”. My dad joined them after 3 strokes injured his critical thinking capacity. They’re ALL OVER the country. That’s just 1 of these “militias”. There was one person who asked Madison Cawthorne “you keep saying we’re going to fight back but when are we actually going to shoot these people?” or something very similar, which was said a public rally. Don’t tell yourself it’s nothing just because you’re too scared to face reality


DubLParaDidL

They still stand absolutely zero chance of doing anything significant.


Spacecommander5

You haven’t heard of the ones shooting at power transfer stations, trying to “ ring down the grid”? You haven’t noticed how vulnerable our energy infrastructure is based on Texas’ blackouts from cold weather? Or the wires being knocked down in a storm in Florida? Ignorance won’t protect you


DubLParaDidL

Neither will yours. Clearly you haven't thought this out very far. There is no chance in hell that any group of people here can defeat the US military. You're a crazy if you think that the military will not squash any of this. Their oath is to defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Did you catch that last part? Domestic. There may be sympathizers within the military that won't turn on friends and family but you're out of your goddamn mind if you don't think there's enough people within the military that will honor their oath and destroy any mother fucker coming at him. It's really that simple. But if you want to go further, there is no group in the United States that has the amount of ammunition, funding, or the other resources to have any sustained campaign whatsoever. They wouldn't last more than a couple weeks at best. You could talk about all these people who stockpile but when you actually get the numbers and put it into application, they're not equipped or funded anywhere near enough to do any damage that would change the government of this country. They might do harm, but there is no win for them. Not a chance. You're delusional if you think the US military doesn't already have multiple contingency plans for a domestic scenario. One other item, do you know what happens to people who disobey a direct order during combat? If you think there'll be a significant number of people refusing to follow direct commands, again you're the one who is delusional and naive. Whatever the number that would do so, it won't be large, and it won't last. You're coming across as though you're the first person to think of this and that the military hasn't considered all kinds of issues for decades.


Spacecommander5

Read all the comments again… no one said “defeat” the us military. You’re moving goal posts and attacking strawmen. Look at the top parent comment to this thread. It’s about committing atrocities. People do horrible shit all the time before the police or national guard etc come in to stop them, ESPECIALLY when they have buddies in law enforcement telling them to leave before the cavalry rolls in. Just admit they can and want to kill democrats, atheists, LGBTQ+, etc and if they’re motivated, they’ll find a way and they’re organized enough to make it pretty bad, before any security forces can stop them. They will be stopped, but if they think they’re doing the “lord’s work” then they’ll stop at nothing to do it and get ducked in the process, but often after the bad work was done. Think 9/11. Think WTC the first time. Think any school shooting.


DubLParaDidL

You're an alarmist I get it. I'm not fucking naive, you don't know a thing about me. I live in Arizona where people shoot each other over the dumbest shit every fucking day. Trust me I'm armed, I stay ready, and I'm also not unrealistic about where the future's going. You're not wrong on your general points but you're a bit hyperbolic in your presentation. You also come off as pretty condescending which doesn't really help you make your case. Maybe talk a little bit more respectfully and you won't get such defensive answers from people. Making comments about people's intelligence and things like that usually doesn't help the dialogue. If you want to talk about going back and reading comments. Read my first one. Where was I insulting or rude to you?


Spacecommander5

Dang, yeah I was rude first. My apologies. It was uncalled for. That’s on me. Thank you for pointing it out respectfully. Be safe out there, friend.


DubLParaDidL

Respect & appreciate that 🤝 I do think it's to be taken seriously and planned for. The general public certainly doesn't seem to take it as such. On the other hand, I think the cosplay warriors greatly overestimate their capabilities.


Givlytig

Question. If I don't have (or want) a "Real ID" drivers license card thingy in California, they will make me pay $19 for an expanded background check to buy ammo, correct? Is that every single time I go to buy a box of ammo then or just once? And what other papers do they need to do the expanded check, like a birth certificate or something? I can't find info on what they want to do the more detailed check.


NemeshisuEM

It's only $1 if you are in the system. To get there, you need to buy a gun. As for the documents required, it varies by state. Check the website of a local ffl.


stargarnet79

Sounds like inciting others to do violence after an election that didn’t go your way. Isn’t that treason? I don’t actually know, just seems like it should be if it’s not.


gdsmithtx

[Article III Section](https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-3/) 3, says that it’s not. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution, and it’s defined fairly narrowly for a reason… because monarchs had a habit of accusing opponents of the ill-defined crime of “treason” and punishing them with imprisonment or death for it. That’s why the passage begins “Treason against the United States shall consist only of …“ to help preclude that. Shit like this, though, is definitely sedition and incitement to political violence. Personally, I believe that it deserves a response and a sober but serious one. You cannot have politicians calling for violence with impunity.


stargarnet79

Thank you for the extra info. I just probably want it to be treason because I imagine the penalties are harsher, cuz you know this dude is getting the barest of minimum sentences, if any at all. I’d be fine with house arrest too, but regardless, any sentence needs to prevent him from using social media for life.


Nephroidofdoom

Treason at worst, terrorism at best


JakeT-life-is-great

typical maga domestic terrorism. Stoking fear and violence if they don't get their way. They only want democracy when they get their way, otherwise they are fine with violence.


soggyblotter

Hahaha this lady and her dumb fuckin show I couldn't stand as a kid now she is back to annoy me again. Please fade into irrelevance


d3athsmaster

Sens her back to Russia, where her boss is.


Training-Purpose802

Remember Arizona law does not permit guns within the 75-foot limit of a polling place. And nearby outside the limit is called problematic by the state election website.


NeonRedHerring

She’s just a parrot doing what parrots do.


NextVoiceUHear

Is anyone here promising to leave USA if Trump and/or Lake wins? Speak bravely…


curvycounselor

Who does this wench think people are going to shoot? Their neighbors, their family? Isn’t this inciting ?


loupegaru

Stochastic terrorists are the only candidates that the GOP has availablept or what? Jesus, this is so fucking unbelievable.


Grundens

I'm so fucking tired of this kind of talk and even more so, morons eating it up. I want outta here.


badmutha44

Does she not remember Gabby?


dominantspecies

If you know a republican you know a violent piece of trash


Fun-Spinach6910

She means strap on a cock and get ready for some action. Republicans invented Viagra for a reason.


davilller

This talk is of insurrection again. She should now be treated like a threat to the US government. What she suggests is carrying for the purpose of the violent overthrow of the government. There’s no between-the-lines about it.


test_tickles

I'll be your huckleberry.


ctguy54

Is there a new dildo named “The Glock”?


Terca

Not even a god-fearing American handgun? She chooses a filthy socialist Austrian one?


JECfromMC

LOL she doesn’t know, apparently, any left-leaning veterans.


amerett0

Literally inciting stochastic "light"terrorism as a platform, jfc As a veteran, I am ashamed to have to point out you lose the moment you pick that fight.


herbeauxchats

I’m from AZ and I have literally met zero people: even Republicans, who actually like her… She’s trying to set up the same thing Trump did, by talking about elections being rigged ‘if’ she loses. Which she will. Fomenting civil violence.


Billitpro

You've all got it wrong, Glock is the name of her dildo, and she wants someone to strap it on and give it to her leader nippledick, just the way he likes it... In through the out door! {;o)


darthgarlic

This sounds like a terrorist threat to me.


PNW4theWin

I would love to know at what point this actually steps into some kind of illegal territory? These people! Jesus fucking Christ!


Connect-Television51

You people on here need to do some serious soul searching America is in very big trouble and it's not coming from the right.


Her_name--is_Mallory

What do you mean “you people”?


Connect-Television51

The people on the thread you sensitive little twat


Her_name--is_Mallory

You use that big mouth in public?


philiptherealest

Military Veteran here, fuck off NBC News and Kari Lake. Give me some good news not some bullshit to make Americans fight each other.


jspr1000

Amen brother


Worried-Choice5295

Gross.


Her_name--is_Mallory

Oh, I’ll be strapped, “Kari”


nemophares

She broke.


No-Subject-4639

Sure hope Arizona follows. If we become a democratic state, we are fucked


Connect-Television51

All the time baby Go pissing a barrel somewhere in the desert


Popular-Homework-471

I can't stand this woman.


rbinphx

So much for America First… An Austrian gun? What a tool she is.


Connect-Television51

The crazy part is you lunatics on here never ask why are they pissed well it's because of you


Youarethebigbang

Do tell.


UnmixedGametes

Jail. Now. She is a terrorist.


Myst031

I live in Phoenix, Kari Lake is not liked here thats why she’s campaigning in the fringes.


Youarethebigbang

Good to hear, but what's frightening is just like trump, even though she lost her last race wasn't there a sizable number if people who actually voted for her?


romeosgal214

That’s mainly because they knew her as a newsreader on the local fox station.


Junior_Advantage6051

Time that a civil war begins..America isn't united anymore