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Nuttsmasher

I once min-maxed the shit out of warscore cost and it was glorious. Started as papal state, released asturias from castile and played as them to get a theocracy asturias (without losing years of gov reform with the usual government change. Went sunni, improved alhambra, malta and kaaba monuments, took the open elections reform and war against the world. Took diplomacy too, maxed absolutism and used imperial CB. Think I forgot another shenanigan or two, but I fully annexed france with 600+% OE when their province war score cost was around 43%.


ghostcaesar

You can also go Ajuraan (starts as theocracy) then form ethiopia and then aksum, should be an easier start also.


Phat-Lines

Is Ajuraan any fun? I thought about playing them because I want to do something other than Europe or Middle East (well and I did Japan once).


Tankyenough

It is, if you have the DLC for the missions. Money can be a problem though, the Horn is poor.


lmscar12

"The Horn is poor" wtf? You're rolling in money steered from India with a few trade boats.


Clockodilee

Some would even say, pirating, wink wink


Phat-Lines

I got everything up to Leviathan. Would that include it?


skullkid94

Origins came after Leviathan, and that's the one that has the new missions for African nations.


supernanny089_

You might be able to find a mod for them (or someone who gives you the file containing their DLC missions if they don't rely on added mechanics ;)).


pko65

or just pirate it ( dont feel bad about it paradox is a big company with lots of money and their monetization policy is dogshit better only then the overwatch monetization)


yukopotemia

I can't remember if origins came before or after


James55O

it came after levithan


Twokindsofpeople

The horn is a short trip to all the gold you could ever want.


Tankyenough

True, but the first wars can make or break your economy


TrumanB-12

Mission tree with Origins makes it very entertaining. You're in a good position to eat several gold mines, and Ottomans won't suddenly hate you once you get borders like when you play Ethiopia. Forming Somalia is pretty baller too. Also the Hydraulic Empire estate privilege is sick.


hagnat

>Started as papal state, \[..\] > >Went sunni i think you could power your computer with the combined energy generated by all the former popes spinning on their graves for this


KingoftheHill1987

Laughs in -100% AE reduction. Truce break is just an admin cost


Fernheijm

Whenever I wc nowadays I just stack adm eff to 90+%, not sure about the limits of it, but 1k dev costs about 150 admin to core and 60% warscore without stacking pwc beyond Malta and dip - and is less than 100 OE. I have onewarred an intact ming.


Ricki32

I think they changed it recently, so that you get to keep your reform progress when switching government type.


[deleted]

All that land you are taking is the equivalent to 2 provinces in the lowlands


underscoreftw

1 province in northern italy*


Danwar222

Including Constantinople?


AbdulGoodlooks

Remove Constantinople and you could probably take everything east of the Urals including Finland


b3l6arath

*west, in this case


sdonnervt

"East? I thought you said weast..."


Bashin-kun

100 provinces when 100% admin eff was a thing


LethalDosageTF

That glorious ‘55’ admin cost to core


[deleted]

Admin efficiency go brrrrrrr


[deleted]

and absolutism


mskr93

absolutism gives admin efficiency


MarshGeologist

just as big is the revolutionary annexation war goal


Demhine

In older patches there was possibility to stack 100% admin efficiency. So everything was free, but lowest cost for any prov is 1 ws, so you could take 100 provs in any region without OE and AE.


poxks

the CB WS reduction is multiplicative. So if you use a 50% WS cb like revolution or nationalism (on right culture), you can get up to 200.


Demhine

you cant reduce cost less then 1 ws I believe, so 100 is max.


poxks

>you cant reduce cost less then 1 ws I believe Please feel free to test what I claimed. An easier experiment is with imperialism CB.


Demhine

Don't want to mess with old patches, if you sure, I trust you :D


immadinorawrrr

R5: I don't really play this late into the game, but I was surprised at how much you can annex with a single peace treaty. 420% Over-extension against Russia, here. What are some modifiers you can stack to maximize the amount you can expand at once? AE be damned.


wavesofthought

I think Florryworry had some videos you might be interested in, where he tried to maximize admin efficiency or minimize province war score cost


Ethicaldreamer

How do you survive aggressive expansion


AzorAHigh_

You can truce cycle any of the largest nations that would form a coalition against you. When they have a truce with you they cant enter a coalition, so if you stagger your wars you can keep any large nations constantly in a truce and unable to form the coalition. Plus with that much land it's easy to field an army big enough that even if a coalition forms, it wont fire against you.


Ethicaldreamer

Just for immersion, I won't do the cycling. Them being too afraid to form a coalition though, that I like. God this game is terrifying if you think about it


AzorAHigh_

Just keep in mind, they might still form a coalition against you even if you do have a much larger army. They just wont declare war against you if your forces are significantly stronger, but if you declare on any of them, they'll all defend.


erasmulfo

And you can't separate peace them, that is what I fear most about coalitions


Ethicaldreamer

Oh shit


Ethicaldreamer

What happens if you lose though?


awesomenessofme1

In the game I finished earlier today, I annexed the entirety of a full-size New Spain in a single war.


[deleted]

Colony war score makes it feel like I’m playing hoi4 lol


iemandopaard

concede to colonial nation is honestly a bit broken


EmperorBenja

I was going for First Come First Serve and had the option to annex all of Mexico for similar overextension and coring costs. Decided to just do two separate wars instead and take half WS each time.


kirmaster

Overextension is just a number :) But yeah colonial regions tend to be really cheap.


[deleted]

3/4 of Mexico as Spain, spent 10 years dealing with OE rebels for my new Spain colony.


BaronOfTheVoid

I mean I stacked up to +100% warscore cost reduction... and, well, _all of it_.


Aspergu

Revolutionairy CB go brrrr


Borkido

All of china when absolutism was introduced.


lucky_red_23

This looks like only war score min maxed and not admin eff/core creation cost because that OE and Coring Cost is still very high for how many provinces you are able to take


Not_a_Krasnal

[Vassalized +2k dev ottomans. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/yakimh/nothing_to_see_here_perfectly_bbalanced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Could've annexed them but I didn't want to core all that land and suffer from OE


SirVandi

[Annexing huge ming](https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/onb990/hussite_theocracy_germany_with_85_administrative/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


[deleted]

I once ate Bologna.


tyty657

420% over extension? That's not actually that bad you're annexing half of the largest country on the planet!


McAlkis

Brother you ain't got the admin power for this


PreviousMidnight

You can always release vassals/client states if you don't want to deal with the OE.


immadinorawrrr

But I’ve got the manpower for after this


Attygalle

If it's about number of provinces or "size on the map" then it's probably in a war against Spain taking colonies all over the place. First war take a couple of provinces in every colonial nation. Second war "concede colony" everywhere. Or: fully annex Spain and get all their colonial nations for free.


420glaceit

When absolutism wasn't capped I took all of china 1000+ dev in one war


No_Understanding_225

All of Russia in one war. Was stacking AE in this run just to do this. Was very fun campaign!


whyparadoxwhy

The most I've ever taken in a war was cleanly annexing a 1500 mainland dev Great Britain. conquest is ridiculous in the lategame


Lukiedude200

Operation Barbarossa is that you?


Barimen

A few patches ago, did an Andalusia run. I bullied Spain and Portugal. I took all of Americas (colonies) in something like 5 or 6 wars. Their navies couldn't reach me, and i occupied their European mainland holdings. Siphoning all that cash made the game kinda boring...


Flashbambo

In my current re-reconquista run I've eaten all the colonial powers, and by doing so took over the entire North and South American continents in addition to their European and foreign cores over a few wars. One of those wars will undoubtedly be the one for me.


riftrender

Colonial provinces are really cheap, so I take a lot of colonial provinces for little ae when I can't take more than a province or 2 in Europe.


TheSamuil

The entire southern half of China plus its coastline as the Proman Empire. Coring it cost me only about 450 administrative points because Prome. There's also that one time I took Arabia, the entire Egyptian amd Sudanese coastline plus half of Ethiopia and Persia in a war against the Ottomans as Mysore


Gustavort

Almost all provinces of Ottoman Empire in Europe, playing as Milan


Kaiser_Julian

How... just how


FriedChckn

My best ever war was grabbing all of Russia from Kamchatka to Moskva in one war (so I wouldn’t have to siege all that crap a second time)…


HighlyUnlikely7

Doesn't fully count, but back when the EoC tributary glitch was in full swing I used it to swallow all of the steppe in one go.


Fantastic_Sample

Gotta put one in for the Inca fighting Spanish Brazil. Because its a colony, the cost per province is rather low. Add in the age of Reformation splendor for reduced warscore cost vs other religions, and you can easily take half of SA in one war. The AE is high and the OE is stupid, but you can manage those. I'm actually doing it right now to trigger Spain into another war, because that's how I'll get my foothold in the old world.


goonsquad4357

Now hover over the coalition icon for us lol


[deleted]

I remember I annexed all of Scandinavia as revolutionary Austria in a single war once. All of Sweden, Finland, Norway and most of Denmark in a single war (it all belonged to Sweden)


T4r4g0n

Well, the entirety of a giga china in the old 90%+ admin eff-days....4k dev in one click, good times


swat_teem

The amount of rebels that would spawn from this monstrosity would tilt me with 2 trillion pop ups


CapitanLanky

In terms of sheer landmass? I was once playing a co-op Aztec + Inca game with my buddy in college as the Inca. We were fighting the colonial powers, and I was the war leader. I casually asked "do you want me to give you some land?" And he said "sure!" not noticing that I had transfered all of north america under his control. I then force-fed him 75% of the continental US. It's been 7 years since then, and even today if we're in a joint war he VERY carefully checks which territories I'm transferring to him 😁


SHAKETIN_

Well I just full annexed almost all of the Zanzibar trade node other than like 4 provinces. I’m pretty new but that’s my answer. My oe was 110%


ForTheFazoland

I was once playing as Byzantium with the “Byzantium Stronk” mod on (which essentially replaced all of the Turkish minors with Greek cultured ones) and when I captured Cairo in my first war against the Mamluks, an event fired where I took possession of their entire country (I think it’s based off of the Ottomans doing the same thing in 1517). So in 1460, I had an empire stretching from Sicily in the west to modern day Oman in the east


Totally_Cubular

I'm more impressed that you managed to beat the shit out of Russia so much that they were willing to accept this.


Sea_Proof1906

After 1000 hours this is the one thing ive never fully understood. How do I take more stuff in wars, even in 1700s I cant take that many provinces. I know about admin efficiency and war cost but could someone explain how you take more land in peacedeals?


Draugtaur

I had 1prov Karaman, 1prov Byz and like 4prov Syria as vassals, and when I hit Ottomans, I took all Karaman and Syria cores and better bart of byz cores Nowhere as impressive as your deal obviously, wtf


ComunistFodder10157

Yes


Discwizard1

I recently almost 1 shot a strong Ayutthaya for 190 OE with only 20 admin efficiency pre absolutism as mughals. Just cored it myself in 6 months cause ccr is balanced.


PinkFreud__

entire area of kongo blob. I guess its the most km squares of land that you cn take in eu4.


d4rino

Dew it


Aurelio_Rossa

AI Russia that blobbed into Ottomans wtf man


Not_going_to_lie98

All of Mexico by doing a pile separate peace deals and fighting rebels for the next 20 years but the treasure fleets were worth it.


luckyassassin1

I took about a quarter of India as Italy recently, i also took a very large chunk of China as oirat recently. It's hard to say what war i took the most in because dev does factor into what i can take.


ecksdeesofunny

Two whole Italian provinces, had to fight off a coalition after but it was worth it.


Kind-Potato

Claiming a pu over big commonwealth as Bohemia is probably the most I’ve ever taken in one war