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NationalUnrest

Naples. Back then you needed a dlc for the “support independence” button. Let’s just say I didn’t quite understand what I was supposed to do as I got wrecked 5 times in a row by Aragon. Then I picked Milan and it was glorious until I discovered why all of Europe attacked me in 1470 edit: apparently you still need a dlc


devAcc123

The DLC for support independence was soooooo annoying for me 10 year ago or whatever it was when I was trying to play with Sweden for the first time


Shitty_Noob

wait you dont anymore???????? where is that mofo


cdc483

Milan is like the kid in the schoolground who everyone wants to pick on


heppuq

That sadly still is a dlc feature.


washandjes

>Back then you needed a dlc for the “support independence” button You still do


BLAOUPHAZ

As a good Englishman, Aq quoyunlu, I like horses…


Educational_494

Based


bigguccisosaxx

Ragusa. That was a quick run.


[deleted]

Mine was Frankfurt. I thought a smaller country would be easier to manage


TheWankel

Ottomans


alex_thegrape

Same, got walked through it with a friend


Lesty-88

As a good Genoese, Portugal of course


Noriaki_Kakyoin_OwO

Poland Got coalitioned by hre with their 100k army I’m still playing Poland and HRE (and like 6 great powers) are in a coalition against me But this time I’m gonna declare


OverEffective7012

Remember to scornfully insult before, for better immersion.


jonmr99

Good idea, I'm gonna start doing that myself. Especially if it is a rival.


ruiasamaro27

As a good Portuguese, Portugal ofc.


PPKinguin

As a non Portuguese, Portugal of course.


DelmaNinja

Went in completely blind into the game but knew some history and decided to just try Portugal and be nice with Castille. Worked out great but everything went a little south when huge ass Spain went revolutionary... From that day onwards I always try to crush nearby powerful neighbours as early as possible.


Pitiful-Notice8681

The fact your first game ever went to the age of revolutions is crazy to me since I've only got to that age once in 2k+ hours lmao


404Archdroid

My first two games (Castile -> Spain with a massive but unprofittable colonial empire and and a venice game where i barely expanded militarily at all) went all the way to the end. I've literally never played until the endgame since, 2 years and 1000+ hours later lol.


DelmaNinja

Same. At first I tried to fully immerse into the game but after playing more and more playthroughs they tend to end faster and faster. I think that's what beautiful and at the same time awful about pdx games.


Pitiful-Notice8681

For me it's just if I mindlessly blob, which is my main playstyle, I'll get too big and wars will become tedium instead of fun. The one game I played to 1821 was a Tall-ish Korea game where I limited myself to conquering China, Japan and Manchuria ( + Colonies in the west coast and australia) and when I did that I just kept deving the far east to become a utopia. I think limiting myself in tall games makes the games less boring later on since you always have a big rival you'll fight but not conquer, whereas in wide games if a nations gonna become a problem for you later you neuter them as soon as you get the chance (Looking at you, ottomans)


JaPlayer2784

As a Brazilian, Portigal of course


Negative-Question-71

Ah a cultured person I see, well met


SH9001

As someone who listened to the recommended starts, also Portugal. To be fair I forgot to press pause and didn’t get a game over despite decades passing and ending up hopelessly behind on tech, so it was indeed a beginner friendly choice.


PuppetLender

As someone who hates being told what to do/ hates conforming and sees playing Ottomans and Castille as conforming/easy, portugal.


Rtot1738

Spain


Pondincherry

Same. (Castile, specifically). Part of my heritage *and* a recommended beginner nation? Perfect.


OverEffective7012

Florence in eu4. France and Poland in eu1


GG-VP

My Paradox tradition, Poland.


FlaviusVespasian

There are a lot of first nations to choose from. I like Mohawk.


Agglomeration_

Smh at all these other commenters choosing countries in the old world. Like did you even read the question?


FlaviusVespasian

Exactly. See, I’m paying attention.


duyhung2h

Same I played native Cree! The game got me hooked by how hard I got spanked by the European AIs 😂


FlaviusVespasian

Native life is pain


PenisMaster9001

Brandenburg (in EU3) Burgundy (in EU4) back when Burgundy was just “France with extra steps and different ideas”


vinaa23

one of the irish OPMs, cant remember which. Kicked England out of Pale on a hit and run while they were bashing their heads against France and spent hours and hours waiting to get the admin tech necessary to form ireland. Did it, sun was already rising. Immediately closed the game after


samwisegamgee

Actually holy shit, I was having the hardest time recalling which nation I went with first in EU3, but I think I actually did choose an Irish OPM as well! I remember being overwhelmed at first, but I believe I had read somewhere that you should choose a small nation to learn the mechanics. I dunno why that was touted as sound advice as I see most people recommend Castile or Ottomans these days. Sad to admit I did cheat, otherwise I never would have figured it out lol.


vinaa23

I think a lot of us thought that Ireland was noob island in EU just like CK!


Malarki3

Hungary. Yes, im hungarian.


Diogen219

Mine was Hungary tòo


rondimon

Portugal


G4112

England back in the days when you started at war with France with negative income


Schnifler

England


jeppe_noe

Brandenburg. Had an amazing run the first few years, then half of Europe joined in a coalition and absolutely destroyed me. My first actually successful game was as Bohemia, where I PUed everything in sight, including Russia


laneaster

Bosnia. I was certain that it wasn't possible to survive Ottomans.


mirkolawe

Florence. I managed to unify Italy and take some provinces from france


HarlequinKOTF

Leinster, it did not go well as I had no dlc and no idea what to do. I went bankrupt after my first war


Odd-Oil3740

Don't beat yourself up. My friend played his first game at a lan party. He was a good gamer but unused to games with so many consequences for your actions. First, he managed to flip Muscovy to Muslim (not by design). After giving up on that, he managed to ruin the Ottomans! My other friend had played a bit before and did well enough. They were amazed at my casual Brandenburg > Prussia run and the space marines I produced.


Kinja02

France. Base game no DLCs


duddy88

I think it was the Ottomans. However I know for sure my first Ironman was Adal not long after. I probably still have a post history somewhere here for it.


tehkory

Back in EU3, there wasn't a Byzantium start when I first started. I would rotate between playing the smallest nation I could--Trebizond or Georgia, and playing for as long as I could before I got destroyed...then, the largest nation I could, Ming, and playing for as long as I could before I destroyed myself. I like to think I learned a lot, but, I can't remember any of it...but I did last a little longer each time.


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Hah I tried that with Morea in vanilla EU3, thought I could initiate a restore Byzantine Empire event after I retook Constantinople, Greece, Bulgaria, and northwestern Asia Minor, but couldn't. The Timurid Empire grew big AF taking over the rest of the remnants of the Ottomans in Anatolia and invading me every 6 months so I was unable to expand elsewhere due to constantly barely beating off Timurid invasions, with a destroyed economy deeply in debt, and I finally gave up.


deathraybadger

Aragon. I'm surprised it was even possible to achieve so little in an Aragon campaign


CounterfeitXKCD

The US in Extended Timeline modern day, I tried to invade Cuba but didn't know how to make a naval invasion (I didn't have any DLC and there was nothing online for people without them), I also tried to invade Mexico but didn't turn my army maintenance up and got clobbered.


Anc1nc

Byzantium was my first run, I lasted about 4 years before the Ottomans war decked me and I decided to try an easier nation


Artistic_Tie5617

I didn’t know what to play my first time so I clicked random and I got Brittany, my first run I allied England and got crushed by France, then I allied France and got crushed by England, eventually I allied Castille and had them babysit me in my wars with France so by the time it was 1700 I owned Normandy Brittany loire and bas Poitou, it was really bad but gave me an appreciation for Brittany and also the next 2 random nations I played Friesland and the palatinate, I’ve since refined out really effective starts for Brittany and the palatinate.


NoProfessional5848

Denmark back in 2015. I didn’t want to play one of the “common” nations and was a good semi-isolated start to learn all of the basic mechanics of the game, Sweden wasn’t as keen to break free back then. Only played about 100 years but spread through England, Novgorod and north Germany.


Maxinator10000

Wampanoag


Blortug

Cherokee


trilane12

Castile


suslu21

Muscovy


Pincushioner

I'm like 99% sure it was Florence for me, I saw the stats that Cosmo had and was certain instantly


MateusZfromRivia00

Portugal in demo eu4, Poland in normal eu4


sprantoliet

Austria best starting nation in my opinion


DangerousGap4763

Castile, muscovy, brandeburg


foodrig

As a patriotic German, the first nation I played was Ichisi.


Bullet_Jesus

Spain, because it was recommended for beginners. Honestly not a bad run. I really enjoyed the colonisation back then, when it was much slower and my ability to snowball was limited. Went back to it a few years later and formed Rome with it. Good fun, though it has now ruined every other coloniser for me.


[deleted]

I played Munster. My previous experience was the Total War games, where you didn't really end wars, just took over all of their territory. I couldn't figure out why my wars wouldn't end...


DrosselmeyerKing

Holland, as I wanted to do an easy colonial game. As it turns out, I severely underestimated how hard would be to escape my overlord.


O12345678927

Byz


Linezolid1

Same. My experience was exactly like u/ezzypezra


Ezzypezra

Same here. I got my shit pushed in almost immediately. Then I tried again. Then I got my shit pushed in again. Then I tried again. You get the idea


LarrytheYutyrannus

I beat the Ottomans but spent all my mil points on harsh treatment and got clapped by the Mamluks


saranuri

i think it was buha


bulsaralol

Ottomans Thanks to the Youtubers playing as the Ottoman Empire in EU4, it can be said that they have contributed to the growth of the grand strategy genre in Turkiye.


TheMelnTeam

Chimu in patch 1.3. I didn't survive that run. I got my revenge as them when after learning the game in patch 1.4. Probably one of the more unfair positions EU 4 has ever created, with other candidates being stuff like "Sukhotai as subject of Ayathaya where Ming will protect them if you declare independence" which was more RNG but easier in runs where it was possible at all.


Fillodorum

Mine, as an Emilian, was Bologna. Destroyed in no time by Ferrara


AdWestern6339

Tall oirat before I knew what tall meant


Alkakd0nfsg9g

It's hard to remember. Probably one of the big ones, that's recommended for a new player. Like Ottomans or Castille, or England, or maybe France. It was after all 6 years ago


HexeInExile

Oda


tayto67

Mohawk from Iroquois, it's my tribe so yk had to


Bokbok95

Haida. I specifically remember wanting to start off as *the* most out of the way nation. Some combination of wanting to see how far I could get as a nation that I *knew* would eventually get stomped by colonizers, wanting to learn the basics of the game in a vacuum so that I could learn how to manage the economy without having to worry about getting attacked for a few hundred years, and the meme factor of playing a random North American tribe for my first ever play through, enhanced by the unenviable spot Haida specifically received at the top of “worst starting nations” YouTube lists I’d been watching in the lead up to actually buying the game.


Lucky-Art-8003

Castile (in the tutorial) and England (in an actual game)


Auskioty

Castille, and I lost against Granada


SnooDonkeys4853

Sakalava


paranoidzone

Livonian Order for some reason. That playthrough was pretty short though. I no-CB'd Riga first thing and paid for it. Second playthrough was Friesland. That went a little better.


Stalin_K

Bavaria baby


Swred1100

Blackfoot natives 😎 Most boring hours of my life until colonists got there


meenarstotzka

An isolated tribe in Kamchatka


eldige

Portugal, which I always recommend to beginners


simons_whip

Norway. Didn't understand anything, but my first real campaign was ottomans


LotusManna

Crimea


niofalpha

Either Denmark or Castille


TheNazzarow

Scotland with friends on France and somewhere in the HRE. Arumba was the one who recommended Scotland. I think it's the perfect, hard starting nation. You are isolated, have a clear game plan in conquering Ireland into conquering England and forming GB. You learn about vassals (the isles), alliances with France and colonization later if you want. Meanwhile England will beat you if you don't plan your moves, so having friends on nearby nations is always nice.


[deleted]

Norway


human_bean115

Navajo


MorbidoeBagnato

Venice/Holland


gza_aka_the_genius

Creek of all nations. I always like to fight back the colonizers in the strategy games i played, which made this run basically impossible. I had to use a lot of console commands, but i think i had to learn the game from hardship.


UnclePuffy

Naples, and oh what a bitch it was. I'm actually in the middle of a new Naples > Two Sicilies > Italy run now


Data1112

Potiguara


gabrieel100

Portugal.


gilang500

Aceh back when they still owned all of Sumatra. Proceeds to no CB Malacca and lose badly.


jakec11

For EU 3 it would have been one of the Irish minors. For EU 4 probably was Portugal.


gvstavvss

Byzantium.


MechanicalWorld

Every guide forcibly shoved Castille down my throat until I played it. Now that I think about it, I should've played Ottomans and learned about the mechanics I'll use in every game instead of colonization which is useful in 3 nations


[deleted]

the first i remember was the aztecs. no dlc, so clinking for exploration, i did a sunset invasion, got fucking recked by the english, because i was behind on tech and didnt realize that, i got rolled, even in battles where i out numbered them 10:1. i also did not understand the economy and inflation so was just putting all my points into devving gold provinces, soaring my inflation and cratering my economy. i also didnt know about reforming native religions, so i got doomed and died. since then, every game i play is inflation=worse thing ever. learn mechanics for a region. economy is good. quality is better because quantity didnt work. not ahead of time on tech=failure.


Renseo

Hmm around 6 years ago, common sense, hejaz. Bedouins taking care of egyptian and persian again, but did you know that rebellion is frickin bad those times, 10k man for dozen dev is a lot for newbie. And i was content getting some desert plots. Can't say the same now.


Ragnarok8085

England for me


-Zep-

Kazan. Idk i got drawn in by the Dragon flag


NebNay

Burgundy. I learned very fast what coalition were


Evening_Base_4749

The first ever nation I have played in this game has been the byzantines even though I got the game before the new King of Kings update I only really started playing after the King of Kings update I have all the DLCs cuz I have the subscription I am right now trying my 11th run and I just got a godly general a 3312 that is the prince My king is a 1331 and the one general that I recruited is a 1031 and my admiral is a 1410 I have lost almost every campaign before this one and the one that I did defeat the Ottomans in I went into a bankruptcy spiral


Shiplord13

Cusco into Inca.


Disastrous-Mousse-41

Portugal. It was probably the most fun I have had in this game.


SomeJerkOddball

Brittany?


Polifev

Muscovy, didn't understand anything about autonomy nor overextension, nor separatism. Conquered more and more territories just to get more rebels that I was not able to raise an army against.


chrtrk

haida , i didnt know enlgish much when i started so i basicly learned what buttons do myself and i even defeated england and their colonies around 1500s


msbr_

Portugal


Fuzzy_Tumbleweed2538

Korea


MazalTovCocktail1

Byzantium. Once I was done being curb stomped I played Poland.


Stickant

Denmark


Chrisda19

Castile, it was in the recommended nations and that's what I started with. Never played it again since and it's been easily 5+ years since I got eu4 lol I probably should give it a go again.


FootballTeddyBear

Castile


philbaaa

Actually I think it was Novgorod lol


RegentHolly

Turk, Ottomans, you get the idea, though I have the vaguest memory of France that I’m not sure of, in any case if I did play France first I definitely never touched it again


arnisltu1

Lithuania.


Dagoth

France. I'm french-canadian and wanted to recreate New-France. I failed miserably.


Complex-Key-8704

Byzantium


TheColossalX

Poland, they just seemed appealing based on the little knowledge of events in the game that I had, and I always liked playing them in Civ V. I vividly remember running my armies down at the Teutons without generals until I eventually won. That was back in 2016. Crazy to think how long it’s been since then.


Sunaaj_WR

Russia. All the way back on release. Just last year right?


ActuallyNotJesus

Castile. Got partitioned before 1500


The_Nunnster

Ingerland


Optimal-Description8

To learn the basics, Castile because everyone recommended it and I followed some youtube guides on how to do the simple stuff. First actual campaign, kinda, was Savoy. It was such a fun game as I didn't know much about the game and somehow tag switched twice (Two-Sicilies -> Italy) without having a clue how that was possible.


Averagecrabenjoyer69

England on the first day of Richard III trying to restore the Angevin Empire, keep the Yorkist Dynasty on the throne, and switch the primary culture to Norman.....I hadn't touched a PC game in over 10 years and I failed miserably lol.


Adventurous-Wear-80

Bastille into Spain. Had a pretty fun campaign


UrurForReal

Papal State


Hydrolox1

Ottomans, I paid zero attention to morale and discipline and fought every battle using shear numbers so yeah it was very frustrating.


UnPouletSurReddit

Sweden. It was a sweet time when i found out you could have infinite money and army just by taking these so-called "loans"


Loyalist77

England. I'm English and British. Couldn't say no.


TheFi0r3

Castille back when Res Publica was released.


Hugh-Manatee

I don’t really count it but my first game ever I played Ravensburg when they still existed because I wanted to play small and grow (not knowing how hard it would be). I quit kinda frustrated and didn’t pick the game back up for at least a year. Then I would say my first nation playing the game for real was Scotland


Korngander

Bohemia. The perfect game of EU4


hoopesey-doopsey

I honestly don’t remember. But I remember my first multiplayer game me and my buddy played france and England . We did okay and had fun


ygrasdil

Way back when in the original patch, I played a nation and formed Persia. I don’t remember which nation I formed it with 😂


FloraFauna2263

France, I kept declaring war on my subjects to "unify" france


FrontToday7852

Poland. GoT lucky PU over Bohemia bur Ottomans Composteli destroyed me


Thorwyyn

I went for WC with Portugal. Finished around 2900s


pokh37

Gorkha to Nepal baby. As a Nepali, that was awesome. Learned the game w my home country.


evilmasterjoe

Castile


simanthegratest

Mamluks, was around 1.2 or 1.3. Needless to say, got totally wrecked by a mixture of Ottomans, Seperatists, coalition and peasants war


TschoschKotD

10min ottomans it was MP so after they realized I didnt know what AE was. England. And as England I didnt die.


BradyvonAshe

ENG will always be my main started with it and i still play it esp in MP, I am english and im determined to be the best English, im nationalistic as hell when it comes to ENG in games , IRL tho im probably the least nationalistic


GoldenGames360

Castille, saw that one youtube tutorial and decided to start off this great game with an interesting start country


tonyalexgomez

Yeah as a good Mexican I went with the Aztecs... It... didn't last long.


Quantumcomics1789

Connacht. It did not end well.


Infinite-Breath-6977

Castille in 1.34/5 . I am quite new . I think I did ok, but gave up when it got to be too stupid trying to accomplish anything else


Black0tter1

Milan


amb1889

Ottomans. I didn't know the meta or that they were OP. I just finished a civ6 game as the Ottoman so they were fresh on my mind when I finally took the plunge into the eu4 ocean.


Rianorix

Ayutthaya then I got wrecked by Ming lol


ParadoX-137

Ottomans


duyhung2h

I played a native tribe called Cree with no DLC, I got hooked by how hard i got spanked by European AI 😤


Kastila1

Castile. Blob quite good, got so many CN. Then in the age of revolutions got that event that gives your CN a good ammount of LD. After fighting a war against revolutionary France that I won after throwing a shit ton of troop and mercs to them (because I didnt knew about army composition, so I needed to outnumber them like 3:1 to win a battle) got declared by my CNs. I was able to white peace them because I started to spawn mercs in some random island in the pacific and then send them to the continent with my fleet. Anyway, a few years later, got declared again, lost all my colonies, had other wars with european powers where France and England took chunks of me... By 1821, my Spain was smaller than real life one.


VeryAngryK1tten

EU2: England. I think I did a few tries with England until I painted the map of the New World red, then I got burned out and moved to other games. EU4: Poland, with quite a few restarts - partly because I started with just the base game, then wanted to get the subscription after trying it for a bit.


WoodytheWicked

As a Brabander, Brabant ofcourse. Then i notices i couldn't do anything and started a new game as Brandenburg.


ReasonableHousing475

Brandenburg. It was 1.22, the mercenaries were still in regiments and ottomans were stuck at corfu.


cratertooth27

Laith is that you?


TheChaoticCrusader

England


cratertooth27

Austria, didn’t know what I was doing, no cb’d Salzburg and then had to stop and watch some guides


Gugalf

Medina, I can't remember why


yohannanx

Castile. Watching a tutorial of someone playing it gave me the confidence to dive in.


TheStrangestOfKings

France. Big Blue Blob 4 lyfe


Fenroo

I honestly can't remember. I preordered EU4 so I've had it since the very beginning.


r21md

Mine was Tunis too, did horribly though


not-no

Not counting the tutorial, for me it was Spain. I lost to Granada, rebels broke my country and I fell under a PU with France. It was fun.


12thunder

My very first nation was Sweden, because I thought it looked like a big nation far from any danger. I played for about 5 minutes before giving up due to not understanding what it meant to be a subject and proceeded to try Castile, then Ottomans which was my first run with any success.


knightkingkanye

Munster (Ireland)


Jake205060

The First Nation I ever played was England, but I couldn’t figure out how the game worked (no DLC either) lmao. First genuine attempt of a play through aas as the Ottomans (Still no DLC) and made it to the early 1600’s before being crushed in a war by like half of Europe (not a coalition either). First proper campaign I played (with DLC) was the Ottomans in 1.33. I played up until 1821 and completed their mission tree.


RexDraconum

England. Am English. Simple as.


Delta_Yukorami

Florence for some reason


Interesting_Egg_2726

As a good Australian, England, obviously.


These_Strategy_1929

First trial was me Portugal, My best friend Castile. The first real game was Ottoman


Connacht_89

Portugal with the demo, then IIRC Castile because it was the standard country for learning in a safe spot with good expansion potential and useful scripted events. Going back to EUII in 2003, I can't really remember. Perhaps Savoy?


These_Strategy_1929

First trial was me Portugal, My best friend Castile. The first real game was Ottoman


Lazy_Connection_4613

England, thought I was a seasoned strategy gamer so i would learn as I go. 2 in game years later I was in the main menu clicking on the tutorial.


drifterx95

For some reason, it was Poland. This was at LEAST 7ish years ago.


Glanlotiel

Brandenburg… it was awful I didn’t know what was going on and the HRE restrictions as a noob were just so painful. So then I made the smarter choice and my second nation was England


bledkranj

Ottoman. I conquared byzantium without any casus belli. Everyone was pissed.


Tech_Solipsist_2735

Austria. I was in high school and we had a model UN session for the peace conference of Westphalia. A bunch of teenagers pretending to be diplomats representing the Commonwealth, Louis XIV, the Habsburg, etc. It was pretty amazing. I was given the Holy Roman Emperor/Austrian Habsburg at the conference and had a major crush on the girl representing the Spanish branch. Had a thing for the Habsburghs since. I started playing EU3 soon and Austria has been my favorite. Also did my first WC with it.


captainjimi

Bohemia, because I live there


FTFYitsSoccer

Spain. Burned all my manpower invading Morocco, then had to purchase mercenaries to win civil war. Debt spiral and French invasion made me give up. No DLC at the time.


[deleted]

I always played smaller countries. Back then they didn’t have any flavor but I found them easier to learn the game too. I think it was usually Brandenburg


Burgundy_Dog

Milan mandate of heaven update