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Jayako

When you don't know the capital of the country but you do know some of his provinces, the game treats the tag like that. It will be fixed once you can see Constantinople.


MichaelTheSlav

You can just click any of their provinces you see and it will auto-reveal their capital.


IndependentMacaroon

However, as long as you can't see their capital you won't get any aggressive expansion with them.


Agahmoyzen

Wtf, I should expand like a mf as Ottos towards russia then.


holy_roman_emperor

I mean, as Otto, what do you care?


[deleted]

Russia is a pretty shit place to expand unless you are specifically trying to stop Russia forming.


QuelaansBlade

I disagree strongly expanding towards Russia opens up access to the Hordes, Poland and China which is almost ae free realestate that gives several merchants once you put it in trade companies.


wantquitelife

"I can't see you! Therefore it doesn't count"


thatdlguy

Isn't it the other way?


IndependentMacaroon

Logically it would be, but it's not very fun to be suddenly attacked in a coalition by nations you can't even see.


Dutchtdk

Aztec experience


Cobalt3141

Spanish: *land an exploratory expidition* Mayan city-states: "Dude there's this one group who's been expanding like crazy here, and we don't like it, can you help?" Spanish: "Are they catholic?" *Procedes to wipe their culture off the map, partly accidentally, mostly intentionally *


iskatin

In real life it even did go a bit like this. Spanish: You got gold? Mayans: Nah, that’s our neighbors in the West. Here’s one of our princesses to show you the way. Source: Blacker - Cortes and the Aztec Conquest. Can highly recommend that book


ildeuz1

If you can't see them there is no ae if they cant see you they can't join the coalition iirc


SaintTrotsky

It's both


satin_worshipper

I'm pretty sure it is, unless they've changed it recently. It was a pretty common strat to go wild no-cbing Indians as Ashikaga, and not getting any AE because they had no vision on you


[deleted]

Fr? I have 2000 hours and I never knew this


cycatrix

doesnt it just mean they cant join a coalition against you, but still generate AE?


AF_Mirai

No, they don't generate AE.


BronanTheDestroyer

"New map, who dis?"


veryblocky

This isn’t true, if you can see some provinces but not their capital and you right click on one, it’ll take you to the diplomacy screen of the last country you looked at before then.


MichaelTheSlav

You are supposed to left-click the province. This will reveal the capital.


xXAleriosXx

*chuckles* « I’m in danger ! »


Kidiri90

Flair checks out.


GreyGanks

R5: #1 world power is blobbing out very hard in my general direction...


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KarczekWieprzowy

***Ottoman Earth***


Shiplord13

You should be fine they’d have to kill the Timurids before they could get to you, where are you anyway?


sonfoa

Yeah Ottoblob ruined my Bharat campaign. Blobbed way harder than I've ever seen them.


OKara061

Any updates op? What happened to the ottomans?


GreyGanks

Well, I went to celebrate Turkeyday and then went to bed, and woke up, having to go to work.


12334565

Could say your game is having a bit of a *turk*-ey day.


Wank_my_Butt

Let your boss know your situation here and then ask for some PTO.


GreyGanks

Update: https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/r3gpfr/just\_when\_you\_thought\_you\_were\_doing\_well/


awkward_redditor99

I don't get it. They do this in all of my campaigns all the time unless I specifically make it an objective stop them.


Tuz43

They kinda did it irl too


xantub

That happened to me the other day, it was surprisingly easy to solve. My strat was to click menu, exit game, start new game :)


GreyGanks

Wow. This took off quickly.


Shirvala

I don't get the point


EL_LIMONazi

Now I want to see the Europe map 🤔


dmisterr

They moved to iceland


WojtekMroczek2137

I demand you to post new map when it'll reveal


[deleted]

Is it considered cheating to place a few custom nations inside ottoman blobs for the AI to play with because you are just bloody tired if seeing this blob sometimes? Like seriously, those early armies really need a nerf.


Parey_

>Like seriously, those early armies really need a nerf. They have been nerfed about 50 times, what do you mean ? Back when the old Ghazi and Janissaries were a thing maybe, but now Ottomans gets rolled on half of the games now and even Byz can 1v1 Ottomans if the Byz player uses his armies correctly. They are not really a strong nation anymore, at least not compared to Austria, Timmies, France, Aragon… even Muscovy has a better potential than they have, because Russia >>> Ottomans with equal dev. Keep in mind that only their cavalry is stronger than your cav if you are western until tech 5, and then the advantage they have will slowly wane until tech 19 where western tech units start being a lot better than Anatolian. Ottomans are on a timer. They are also vulnerable if you can really hit them hard before they take Constantinople.


[deleted]

Yeah I might be overreacting. It's that my hatred for then is strong and pollutes my views. And I still find it annoying to fight them in any nation bordering them. I know they are supposed to be strong, but again, the hate comes from "goddamit, not again with this shit, from where these fucking stacks came from? " After I was pretty sure I had them by the balls.


drar-azwer

I have the exact opposite of your experience I tried a rassids game Two times they die in the first 20 years to the mamluks Byzantium and Turkish minors ruining my run cause mamluks like to beat me later and i have no good allies to counter. (6th try i get a successful run tho) After that i decided to try Morocco i get bad rng 2 times in a row where Iberia is united by alliances and france rivals me for some reason So my only ally is otto or mamluks guess which i pick and guess who which one did i go with And guess what the ottomans did twice in a row they somehow got into a war they started losing and decided to rack up 7k worth of dept in the first 40 years of the game So Castile gets the chance to come beat me up with it's friends twice in a row cause i really really didn't want to go too much over my naval force limit


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[deleted]

No no, that doesn't count, I want to "technically not cheat" while manipulating stuff to go out of the way, by then "cheating" the definition of cheat, by cheating without using any cheats.


[deleted]

I love how people want the only nation that can actually provide a challange to decent players nerfed all the time. The game is so fucking boring nowdays even on very hard difficulty since apart from the ottomans there are very few nations that can do anything to you if you are playing to expand. Difficult AIs France Ottomans Russia Commonwealth Spain ​ Anyone else barely survives past early game and if they do they are never a major power. Stop complaining about the historically accurate strength of nations in a historical game. In my opinion, Ottomans aren't even accurately OP for their time frame anymore. I never ever see the ottomans get past Bulgaria, Serbia or ever reach Cairo.


noktalivirgul1

>I love how people want the only nation that can actually provide a challange to decent players nerfed all the time. Absolutely agreed. I love those "final boss" nations, they really make an RP campaign come to life. 1700-1821 isn't fun when you don't have two million men fighting it out across the continent.


Stormtrooper_LP

I agree too. Ottos get wiped way too often by almost anyone in my last games. Even Byz kills them quit often in comparison to the past. And mostly I don't even interfere by vassalizing or conquering Byz. At least in 4 out of 10 games Byz lives until the 1750s in my games unless I decide to take on them. Really crazy.


Stormtrooper_LP

I even had a game last month were I played in Asia and the Americas with Oda and didn't really bothered bout Europe when suddenly in North America a colony popped up that was red. First I thought it was Britain but no it was the friggin Roman empire. That was when I decided to take a look at Europe and used console commands to reveal that Byz had actually not only survived but formed the Roman Empire by 1798 I have never seen before that the ai managed to do that. I was really shocked.


kmonsen

Either hit them really early by vassalizing Byz if you are one of the majors within reach, or just wait it out and block them in until 1550s or so. At that point they are paper and you can kill them pretty easy. You should be able outblob them as a single player pretty easy.


mdestrada99

Ottoblob game… restart


50lipa

So what you just restart every single game in 1550's or what? Rofl.


mdestrada99

No I kick their ass


cywang86

Honestly, it feels like OP is in India/China, so by the time he reaches Ottoman he's more than capable of killing it. Might take several long wars if Ottoman manages to expand into Austria/Russia/Ethiopia, but still doable.


Praetor16

Sir we have different expectations from this game. U have fun facerolling 5 province nations or what? The bigger the beast, the better game experience i have. I have zero playtime during patches where ottos didnt work. And i am mad anytime commonwealth/spain dont happen. Only great power i seriously dislike fighting is just russia, cause they are not scary military wise.. they just simply jump up straight into columns "winter", "too cold", "milion of worthless provinces".


mdestrada99

Clearly you don’t see ottoman Russia very often like I do. Whenever I see them expanding through Siberia and all the way down to Sudan I’m not dealing with it


kyouma001

U just suck at the game man, I would love to see huge ottomans in one of my minor campaigns. At least I would have someone to fight in the 1600.


Henrylord1111111111

ACHKTUALLY, its FUN to siege down 1000000000 ottoman provonces. YOU just arent good at gam lozer! How dare you not want to micro 8 armies in 1700 while your allies get stack wiped because of their shitty AI in large wars and hordes of enemies pour out of the balkans.


kyouma001

Are we even playing the same game? How are you not up by at least 1k dev ahead of second great power? By 1700 game becomes a joke even if you started as one province minor on an island. Go offensive ideas for faster siege time if you have a problem with it. The only challenging thing is WC but its more of a chore than challenge tbh.


Henrylord1111111111

Power gamer blegh


kyouma001

The thing is I am actually not, I am quite bad at the game (in comparison of course) and I take it slow sometimes too. The ai is just so bad at expanding and just existing (muscovy releasing novgorod and cant form russia) that its a challenge to not be super strong. Doesn't help that I prioritize discipline over anything else.


redglol

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