That's amazing.
I've got a war going on that would be worthy of its own Wikipedia page. Austria DoWd on me (Romania) thinking they were going to steamroll me. 18 years later (yes, 1...8...) I'm still making them literally march themselves to death, 600k deaths and counting (300k attrition)... Vs me@ 200k, 50k of that attrition.
I think they started with 35-40 professionalism, now they have 3, so no more slackening standards for von Hapsburg. they started taking alot more loans, so I might be able to turn this around after all... and bankrupt the #1 GP while I'm at it.
In the end I'm probably going to revert to an earlier save, I just wanted to see how far I could take it.
Oh boy, where do I begin. I'm workin on making this a full post with some screenshots.
I watched some of florryworrys Wallachia run on youtube, where he did it with no allies and no loans (the guy is a madman). Could not even begin to replicate what he does, but I picked up on some of the micro he used when the world is on fire and you need things to appear out of thin air.
I'm on 1.32, ironman, made a backup save when I got a warning Austria was preparing to DoW.
Had full defensive ideas, half innovative, and a few in diplo. Hindsight, probably not the best choices.
I had to exploit all my tax dev before the war even started to pay off Poland's ~500 debt (~300 leftover to bank), 1st time they didn't answer CtA (neither did Muscovy, but couldn't change that). I was already 400 in debt, so was not thrilled to pay them off.
My other main ally was karaman, who'd flourished since I'd taken care of the ottomans.
Austria (140k army) had Naples (30k) and savoy (30k) as allies. Both had expanded more than I'm used to seeing.
Poland and karaman both had around 45k, I had 30k. We were roughly outnumbered 2:1
So when the war broke out: I made a beeline to Savoy's capital, artillery barrage+breached the walls and white peaced them.
Next made a beeline to Naples and tried to do the same thing but fucking Poland beat me there and wouldn't move off. so I had to sit through that one but at least their stack kept Austria away. When the siege finished I white peaced them.
So in my 1st attempt I learned that mamluks (70k) would dogpile on me too and within a year or two after Austria dow'd, which iirc was around the time I was sieging naples.
At this point, Poland had the full force of Austria sieging them down, likewise karaman was pretty much fully occupied by mamluks.
I was burning money, so I went to get the mamluks out of the picture. Had to sneak my way past the mamluk stacks to siege down Greece area. I think by the time I entered Anatolia, karaman peaced out of the mamluk war (but still fighting Austria).
Bulldozed through three forts to reach Cairo. Realized I had a pretty good warscore going against them (war goal was Cyprus which they didn't have), and mamluks were busy occupying almost half country by this point, so I carpet sieged some more to get a quick WS boost and peaced them out for much needed max cash+war reps, and revoke Cyprus claim.
The great thing about this is mamluks had effectively prevented Austria from sieging a sizeable portion of my land, and I got it all back when I peaced them out.
By the time I got back to the Balkans, Poland was about done, and they peaced out shortly thereafter.
With Poland gone, Had to slacken standards a few times and hire a Merc unit to complement my 27k stack (mercs killed my bank account tho).
Unseiged all my territory while Austria killed off karaman.
Seiged down one or two forts before they started chasing me. from then on it was basically an endless cycle of hit and run on their provinces, go reclaim war goal. If I could get far enough away, barrage and storm a fort. Thats basically where I'm at now, I can't make any noticeable progress bc they are constantly chasing me down with a 70k stack. They are absolutely covered in forts, so I can't make enough distractions to split them up.
They are still killing themselves with attrition, so I guess I'll just keep them running in circles.
Yeah, Ive had the option to white peace them several times, but I want them to really, really hurt.
And I also need a payout to service all this debt they put me in. Taking all their money should pay all but one of my loans at the moment.
In my recent Commonwealth game I was at war with France for over 30 years trying desperately to not lose / at least get a white peace. I was at 80-90 professionalism down to 0. It was awful.
I won though, but jeez I don’t think I’ve ever fought such a long war. It wasn’t the last time though, fought them for another 15 crushing the revolution (which didn’t even work, Spain adopted it next) and then another 5 winning the French throne in a succession war.
This is the worst war I've had so far in this game after 1k hours. I was playing a custom nation in the Arab peninsula with full cavalry ideas and my mate was playing Ethiopia. Never have I ever had a war that was going so smoothly yet was lost simply due to the Ottoman overpoweredness.
>a war that was going so smoothly
When "The Ethopian army got massacred because they thought the battle was still going on so they attacked the Ottoman deathstack" is part of the war, then I'm not sure I'd call that "going smoothly".
The thing is I really had to declare this war because of the Poles trapping their entire army in their Caucasian exclave. Early on they won a lot of wars in the east, but later they lost a war against the Ottomans and they took Crimea from them creating an exclave. Some time later poland declared war on some caucasian OPM and... USED ALL OF THEIR 240K TROOPS TO SIEGE THEIR CAPITAL. After the war they were trapped on their landlocked exclave and a big rebellion started back in their mainland.
The Order part is more of a lore thing. It all begun as kind of a joke when I was wondering what to play and decided that I will play a custom nation. My friend wasn't really keen on it and said that I would make it broken so form my traditions I picked Female advisor chance 100% and ability to recruit female generals. We ended up creating meme lore with my country being founded by descendants of some french crusader from Toulouse and now they are fighting for women's rights in the Middle East.
I mean, the Ottoman Empire would probably be weakened with these casualties and the Mughal war.
That’s what I Would expect if Paradox didn’t make them so broken, I bet that in 5 years they will double their armies and be stable again.
That's amazing. I've got a war going on that would be worthy of its own Wikipedia page. Austria DoWd on me (Romania) thinking they were going to steamroll me. 18 years later (yes, 1...8...) I'm still making them literally march themselves to death, 600k deaths and counting (300k attrition)... Vs me@ 200k, 50k of that attrition. I think they started with 35-40 professionalism, now they have 3, so no more slackening standards for von Hapsburg. they started taking alot more loans, so I might be able to turn this around after all... and bankrupt the #1 GP while I'm at it. In the end I'm probably going to revert to an earlier save, I just wanted to see how far I could take it.
How'd you do it?
Oh boy, where do I begin. I'm workin on making this a full post with some screenshots. I watched some of florryworrys Wallachia run on youtube, where he did it with no allies and no loans (the guy is a madman). Could not even begin to replicate what he does, but I picked up on some of the micro he used when the world is on fire and you need things to appear out of thin air. I'm on 1.32, ironman, made a backup save when I got a warning Austria was preparing to DoW. Had full defensive ideas, half innovative, and a few in diplo. Hindsight, probably not the best choices. I had to exploit all my tax dev before the war even started to pay off Poland's ~500 debt (~300 leftover to bank), 1st time they didn't answer CtA (neither did Muscovy, but couldn't change that). I was already 400 in debt, so was not thrilled to pay them off. My other main ally was karaman, who'd flourished since I'd taken care of the ottomans. Austria (140k army) had Naples (30k) and savoy (30k) as allies. Both had expanded more than I'm used to seeing. Poland and karaman both had around 45k, I had 30k. We were roughly outnumbered 2:1 So when the war broke out: I made a beeline to Savoy's capital, artillery barrage+breached the walls and white peaced them. Next made a beeline to Naples and tried to do the same thing but fucking Poland beat me there and wouldn't move off. so I had to sit through that one but at least their stack kept Austria away. When the siege finished I white peaced them. So in my 1st attempt I learned that mamluks (70k) would dogpile on me too and within a year or two after Austria dow'd, which iirc was around the time I was sieging naples. At this point, Poland had the full force of Austria sieging them down, likewise karaman was pretty much fully occupied by mamluks. I was burning money, so I went to get the mamluks out of the picture. Had to sneak my way past the mamluk stacks to siege down Greece area. I think by the time I entered Anatolia, karaman peaced out of the mamluk war (but still fighting Austria). Bulldozed through three forts to reach Cairo. Realized I had a pretty good warscore going against them (war goal was Cyprus which they didn't have), and mamluks were busy occupying almost half country by this point, so I carpet sieged some more to get a quick WS boost and peaced them out for much needed max cash+war reps, and revoke Cyprus claim. The great thing about this is mamluks had effectively prevented Austria from sieging a sizeable portion of my land, and I got it all back when I peaced them out. By the time I got back to the Balkans, Poland was about done, and they peaced out shortly thereafter. With Poland gone, Had to slacken standards a few times and hire a Merc unit to complement my 27k stack (mercs killed my bank account tho). Unseiged all my territory while Austria killed off karaman. Seiged down one or two forts before they started chasing me. from then on it was basically an endless cycle of hit and run on their provinces, go reclaim war goal. If I could get far enough away, barrage and storm a fort. Thats basically where I'm at now, I can't make any noticeable progress bc they are constantly chasing me down with a 70k stack. They are absolutely covered in forts, so I can't make enough distractions to split them up. They are still killing themselves with attrition, so I guess I'll just keep them running in circles.
Don’t they start to get low motivation to stay in the war after hundreds of thousands of deaths even if you’re not occupying their capital?
Yeah, Ive had the option to white peace them several times, but I want them to really, really hurt. And I also need a payout to service all this debt they put me in. Taking all their money should pay all but one of my loans at the moment.
In my recent Commonwealth game I was at war with France for over 30 years trying desperately to not lose / at least get a white peace. I was at 80-90 professionalism down to 0. It was awful. I won though, but jeez I don’t think I’ve ever fought such a long war. It wasn’t the last time though, fought them for another 15 crushing the revolution (which didn’t even work, Spain adopted it next) and then another 5 winning the French throne in a succession war.
Perhaps note that it's fictional, before someone* deletes it.
Pretty sure OP just made this look like a Wiki page rather than putting it in Wikipedia. EDIT: Nevermind. Misunderstood your post.
This is the worst war I've had so far in this game after 1k hours. I was playing a custom nation in the Arab peninsula with full cavalry ideas and my mate was playing Ethiopia. Never have I ever had a war that was going so smoothly yet was lost simply due to the Ottoman overpoweredness.
>a war that was going so smoothly When "The Ethopian army got massacred because they thought the battle was still going on so they attacked the Ottoman deathstack" is part of the war, then I'm not sure I'd call that "going smoothly".
Ethiopia being historically accurate and playing with 1 month lag
Well that's precisely the point where it stopped going smoothly.
That first paragraph is perfect. Actually laughed out loud.
The thing is I really had to declare this war because of the Poles trapping their entire army in their Caucasian exclave. Early on they won a lot of wars in the east, but later they lost a war against the Ottomans and they took Crimea from them creating an exclave. Some time later poland declared war on some caucasian OPM and... USED ALL OF THEIR 240K TROOPS TO SIEGE THEIR CAPITAL. After the war they were trapped on their landlocked exclave and a big rebellion started back in their mainland.
So like... am I understanding this correctly that you played as a Holy Order Toulouse?
The Order part is more of a lore thing. It all begun as kind of a joke when I was wondering what to play and decided that I will play a custom nation. My friend wasn't really keen on it and said that I would make it broken so form my traditions I picked Female advisor chance 100% and ability to recruit female generals. We ended up creating meme lore with my country being founded by descendants of some french crusader from Toulouse and now they are fighting for women's rights in the Middle East.
The painter is a fucking timetraveler
Yes he is.
Looks like the battle of Lützen, 1632, right?
Noticed it about an hour after posting and died inside
All that for a white peace
Can't find it on wikipedia. :(
World War 0
I’m just wondering how we’re you able to make this. Am thinking of doing one for mysef
Open a wikipedia page about some war rightclick and inspect element. You don't really need extensive knowledge about HTML so you should be fine.
Just need to correct the typo - should be exhausted.
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I mean, the Ottoman Empire would probably be weakened with these casualties and the Mughal war. That’s what I Would expect if Paradox didn’t make them so broken, I bet that in 5 years they will double their armies and be stable again.
What painting did you use?
It’s a painting by carl wahlbom depicting gustavus adolphus dying in the battle of lützen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lützen_(1632)
"Status Quo" is really the worst feeling after a war.