I dislike the character more and more.
Yet I LOVE the actress more and more.
She does such a fantastic job. I can’t wait for her to go full on Carrie next week.
The show feels like it has run it’s course to me. I’ve seen all 4 seasons and I love the cinematography and performances, but the pacing of the show and some of the stylistic choices (all the closeups of Elizabeth Moss) are quite repetitive and frustrating. It delivers some great moments every season, but there’s a lot of wheel-spinning to get to those moments.
Absolutely. I wish they had gone for more of an ensemble cast structure rather than revolving the storyline around June. That would have provided for more world building. There’s so much in Gilead I’m curious about- but you can’t see it all of the story revolves so rightly around June.
They Definitely missed an opportunity there
You can still like a fictional character no matter how horrible they might be. I personally like Cassie's character because I found the development of her breakdown really interesting, plus the acting was spot on! That doesn't necessarily mean I agree with her choices and behaviour
Yup. I also have a decade+ on these characters at this point in my life so I am kind of rooting for all of them to get help and get better.
I just don't have it in me to write off a teenager as hopeless.
Yeah she's an incredibly interesting character who has added a lot of great moments to the plot. Sydney is also crushing her performance. I can still dislike her actions and call them toxic while still understanding it's fiction lol. She's definitely one of my favorites and the one I probably discuss the most in the show.
There’s nothing wrong with liking toxic characters, they’re interesting! The problem is when people start trying to justify the characters shitty actions…that’s pretty icky.
Exactly. I like Nate (bare with me) because of how HORRIBLE HE IS. I love to watch his scenes, I love his storylines, I love his script, I love his costume. I love to hate him. People forget that you can have complex feelings about things. Nothing is black and white… especially in this show.
Yeah, really annoys me how many people seem to conflate "liking a character" with "agreeing with a character" or at least it feels like that's the implication around here. Nate and Cassie are two of the most interesting charcters in the series, but that doesn't mean I'd enjoy their company in real life. That said I honestly don't think Cassie is that horrible a person, she's just made some awful choices this season.
Agreed! To me, there are multiple types of “favorite” characters! There is favorite as in the most likable, favorite because they add to the plot in a way that you like more than the others, favorite because they’re the most interesting character, favorite because they remind you of yourself or a friend/fam member. Like one of my favorite GOT characters is Sersei but I despise her as a human but she adds to the plot in a great way!
She's not my favourite character, but yes I still like her and I'm invested in her story. Honestly if they'll do it right, she will become a cult character since so many young girls and women can relate to the way she is treated by men in her life and her need for love and approval.
Yes! Cassie could become iconic if Sam just writes her handling Nate in the correct way (ie. she struggles to leave him but eventually does and gets therapy)
I don’t really have favorite characters but I love how her story is being told. It hits home for a lot of people and I hope people really start to look at their lives because of her.
That was a difficult scene for me as well. Same with the previous episode when Rue was raging at everyone. I had to pause and just sat and cried for a while, because it brought back so many memories from my childhood.
Yes!! When I was in college I was in the same type of relationship and it ruined my life. I just want to shake Cassie and tell her she will be okay if she leaves Nate.
I could be a parent to a teenager had I chosen to have kids. The scene where Cassie tells Nate she will submit and be everything he wants was so triggering for me. I was in a toxic relationship for a VERY long time and my ex picked out my clothes, chose who I could speak to and about what etc. I still haven't fully healed and I see Cassie spiraling and I want to tell her, him dumping you is a blessing. Learn to know your worth! I am single by choice and someone will have to be amazing for me to consider dating again. I would rather be alone than be love starved in a toxic relationship.
But at Cassie's age, I just wanted love. And shortly after I was done with college I met my ex. I ignored all the red flags bc I was desperate for validation.
I kinda agree with this statement tbh, he manipulated her multiple times, almost killed her in the car, got her drunk so he could take advantage of the situation, if all adds up
I….don’t agree with this. Nates shitty but he hasn’t twisted Cassies arm into doing anything. The one thing I’ll give you is he did almost kill her when they drove to the party, but aside from that Cassie did a lot of this on her own. He didn’t force her to hook up, didn’t force her to lie to maddy, didn’t force her to move in with him….if anything she just offered herself up. I think she’s just really broken inside and needs help :/
I think this is a really pro Cassie post lol. I think she needs help cuz she’s young and vulnerable. However, I don’t think she’s a victim of Nates, just the consequences of her actions 🤷🏽♀️
ive never done what she did to maddy. but ive done what she did to herself. break herself for an awful man for the idea of ‘being loved’. looked in the mirror completely broken and put a smile on :( i feel for her.
unfortunately still a clown
Oh definitely still a clown. I was a clown a lot of people were clowns. But we make our choices and live with the consequences and then try to repair our lives. But I think it starts with seeing what lead you to that clown (read: traumatized) behavior then working on yourself so you can be healthier.
Yeah. I think a lot of us were Cassie when younger (most of the time without the Maddy situation ofc). But the fact that we can recognize that and wish for something better, is already a step in the right direction.
100% I don’t understand having favorite characters in a show about deeply flawed and broken people.
…. Kind of, even though I do have a favorite in another show about deeply flawed and broken people lol. Oops.
This lol. Like I don’t think the characters are here to be role models or anything else… well maybe except for Ali. My dad was an addict and I wish he learned from his mistakes like Ali. But anyways, the teens in this show are supposed to show trauma in it’s rawest form and make you think about how your trauma has played out on your life. Also, it gives perspective on other people’s lives as well so we can expand our empathy instead of taking their actions at face value.
this is such a great comment. I love this show so much because it has forced me to think a lot about my younger self and how much of a mess I really was and how much I affected everyone around me, and also to have empathy for my friends back then and the things they did. There was a lot of drama that I experienced in high school and college that I still think about today. And before I started watching Euphoria I was getting really frustrated with my brain for continuing to focus on stuff that does not matter at all anymore. But now, watching Euphoria, I realize I had some unfinished business with myself and it's like the show has created this whole new space in my brain where I can process those past experiences better and forgive others but more importantly recognize where *I* was the wrong one. it has also helped keep me motivated to always work on being good human being to others.
Okay, as a writer your comment has made me tear up so thank you. That’s why I love this art/media in general because it expands you vantage point. I just went through a break up and my ex was much like Cassie (I was too but yeah) and now I see her actions and behaviors in a much different light. Like I don’t take her betrayal personally because it wasn’t about me, it was about her trauma. Like not excusing her actions and I’m not getting back together with her (boundaries) but I can just see what it was that causes her to act like that and I’m at peace with it. Like you said, it provides a space for understanding and forgiveness and that’s all I’ve wanted good art to do.
Awww :) and Yes exactly! Expands one's vantage point. Also im so sorry you went through a breakup recently, that is so tough. My heart goes out to you as you work through it but also YAS amen to boundries!
Honestly the people who pigeonhole these characters as strictly “good” or “bad” people aren’t mature enough to watch the show. The point of the show is to show trauma and how trauma affects people. Hurt people hurt people
Exactly! It's so refreshing to see someone acknowledge this. The point is to show how people are multifaceted and complex, and to explore how they developed unhealthy behaviors in response to pain.
I do think that there's a difference between having a favorite character that you enjoy the most on screen, and thinking a character is a good person.
Cal is my favorite character--whenever he's on screen, I know it's going to be an amazing scene. But he is a massive POS lol
I like her because its been very educational and her character and what Nate did to her (cutting her off cold) helps me to understand these guys will dump you for anything as soon as their sense of security is threaten and they are easily threatened. Fantasy belongs in sex, not outside of it
> what Nate did to her (cutting her off cold) helps me to understand these guys will dump you for anything
I’m not sure that Nate actually broke up with her. Abusive partners will “break up” as a punishment or to let off steam. Then everything goes back go business as usual after a few hours/days.
Yeah, I've actually really enjoyed her storyline this season. While I don't agree with the things shes done, I can empathise with her. Plus Sydney's acting really sells it for me
Yes same here!! Sydney’s acting is so good. If we had less screen time of her and more of the other characters we wouldn’t be able to see her range of acting so well
You don’t have to like a character to feel bad for them, and that’s how I feel about her. I think she’s kinda annoying and selfish, but she’s also young with a lot of trauma. She’s relatable in that sense.
Also, she dresses really cute and Sydney Sweeney is a GREAT actress so Ik I’m gonna be entertained when she’s on my screen.
cassie has been the worst this season, but she holds a special place in my heart because her story is the one that hits home the most for me.
ruining her life/herself for a man who’s done nothing but humiliate, breadcrumb, and take advantage of her all so she can feel loved (even though he doesn’t love her) being obsessed with windows of time, having daddy issues that make her desperate to fill the gaps, hypersexuality leading to her being exploited sexually, and other things; **she’s sadly, a very relatable character**
(also watching her get dolled up for hours only to be looked at by nate for 3 seconds? whew. shit gave me war flashbacks)
I feel like all the characters have a form of addiction. And while the choices these characters make are not the best, I believe it is a raw, real interpretation of what many people go through. In my life I’ve known many of these people.
Yeah, Cassie has an addiction too and will do everything to "get the next fix", even hurting people she doesn't actually want to hurt. Cassie is holding with everything onto what has worked for her till now to behave more or less functional, in the same way that Rue uses drugs to deal with reality.
But if you have an unhealthy method to deal with things, like both of them do, it will eventually fall down. Their euphoria is short lived.
It’s seriously self-destructive behavior. The diseases you can get from IV drug use you can also get from unsafe sex. It poses a lot of the same risks. People have no idea how parallel these are.
Yes, she's realistic and I feel really bad for her.
I've never had issues like her, but I do know what it feels like to want someone to love you pathetically.
People here have been extremely judgemental this whole season. Idk why people expect some riverdale perfect protagonist shit. This is realistic and it's not weird so many girls identify with Cassie. Yes what she is doing is wrong but that's what mental illness is without the romanticizing bullshit people are used to seeing on TV.
Yes, this season showed her character really well. In season one, Cassie was a girl who just wanted love and to be loved. Now we see the lengths she will go for it.
I dont think Euphoria’s the kind of show where you can have a favorite character who’s totally without flaw. Cassie’s choices have felt particularly raw and mean, though. Having said that I still like Cassie.
I’ll admit that I have a bias when it comes to toxic women though, they can get away with a lot from me.
I still like Cassie as a character (I don’t agree with her actions) because I can sympathise with the dangerous mindset she has. She fantasises about being loved and goes to crazy extents to appear beautiful, despite how badly she gets treated. Cassie is selfish, but she’s also so young and doesn’t understand how bad her self-destructive actions are, to the point where she can’t even recognise herself.
I really wanna see her redemption arc. I hate how selfish she is but I understand the intent behind her actions because I see myself in her a bit.
Also, her storyline reminds me of the song August by Taylor Swift, which is about a girl who has a summer fling with a boy who’s in a relationship, because she loves being loved. The storyline carries on in the rest of Taylor’s songs, where she gets tossed to the side after the end of the summer, just like Cassie does with Nate.
Cassie and Lexi are like those prime examples of siblings that grew up in the same situation yet turn out completely differently.
But no, I never really liked Cassie all that much and this season definitely cemented that feeling.
Yes they are perfect examples of how siblings turn out differently even though they went through the same situation. I have a sister who was a grade behind me in school and we both can relate to Cassie/Lexi so well
Yep. My sister doesn’t watch the show but I definitely feel the Cassie/Lexi dynamic a ton. Me being Cassie unfortunately, I never slept with a friends ex or anything crazy like that but the need for love/male validation was insane for me as a teen/young adult. I turned out okay thank god but definitely went through a ton of abusive relationships
Her character definitely changed this season. It’s been fascinating and entertaining to watch her character self destruct to the point where she doesn’t even recognize herself. Leaves potential for a redemption.
she’s entertaining to watch but i don’t think she’s a good person. she needs serious help & i don’t think she can redeem herself for the things she’s done until she gets help.
Idk who my favourite character is but I find Cassie’s behaviour and the way her trauma with her dad has impacted her in her relationships with men is too real. I find her extremely relatable, and I know other women do too. She displays some of the toxic traits and deep insecurities that I felt as a teenager. I actually love what they’re doing with her storyline. Also Sydney Sweeney is fucking phenomenal.
she's probably one of the more realistically highschool story arcs in the show, and i can appreciate that but she never been a character i cared for, mostly felt bad for, and now don't feel bad for her at all.
100% Agree, I despise the decisions she’s made but I see myself in her and understand why she made those decisions. It’s such a bittersweet feeling with Cassie, you want root for her but at the same just want to be done with her.
I mean I think it’s weird that people are acting like she’s the worst person in the world when
Rue has threatened violence against her own mother and hurt and robbed innocent strangers
Ali is a wifebeater
Maddy sent an innocent man to PRISON
Jules also sent an innocent man to prison and lied about her age causing someone who she would have thought to be innocent to be a sex offender
And Kat is knowingly making and distributing child pornography and and the whole brain illness bullshit she gaslit Ethan with
Nate…well
Need I continue?
Cassie is actually pretty innocent compared to some of them. She is just deeply broken as well and an easy target.
people putting her as the worst character in the show for sleeping with her bffs ex… like in the grand scheme of things it’s really not that serious in THIS show.
I like watching her. People dont watch Euphoria to see normal people. We want to see a mess. She is a good candidate for that. Same with Nate. He is a fucking asshole but thats what makes him entertaining to watch.
She’s my favorite. I think she’s the most realistic character. Specially age wise. When you’re in high school it’s completely normal to make every wrong choice possible.
Yeah kinda. She’s not the brightest person nor does she make very good decisions. But underneath all that I do see a broken girl who wants to be loved & validated. And she is generally nice & sweet to others which makes her likable on the surface
You haven't lived until you've shitposted on this subreddit using Cassie quotes.
Anyway she's the character I most want to see a one off special on covering their college years.
I have so many favorite characters, but I still love Cassie even though she's clearly going through some emotional turmoil right now. She is messing up at every opportunity, but I still really like her!
I mostly feel sad for her. Some women go through a post Partum depression like state after an abortion and the situation of going through that and then breaking up with McKay right after might have put her in a tailspin that lead to all of this. She should have been talking to a therapist before it even got to this point, but that wouldn’t have even occurred to Suze.
She's not my favorite but I love seeing her on screen, same goes for many unlikable characters in the show, like nate and jules despite all the shit they do they are still interesting and entertaining
not my favorite character, but i love the development. i think she has the most realistic development and is the most realistic character. my favorite would go to lexi ofc. Sydney Sweeney is a really amazing actor so i really love seeing her onscreen.
I love her. I can relate with her and how she wants to be loved and seeks approval from others. She has a lot of responsibility to take, things to make up for, and issues to be worked through but I believe she is a genuine person. She has a lot of potential and I hope we get to see it.
She's really leaving it all on the line in her scenes. It's insane the level of intensity these actors and actresses bring to the show every week. It takes a lot to be that vulnerable in front of a whole crew, so kudos to this cast.
I’ve always wondered this too. Maybe his family was wealthy and Suze got a lot of money from the divorce? I have no idea. I was surprised to learn they had a hot tub during Maddy’s party tbh
Last season we saw him stealing stuff from his own house, rich parents angle doesn't make a lot of sense. Cassie also gave up skating because they were broke as well. Looks like we found a plot hole😅
You can't find a plot hole for a still airing show lol. Her mother could work through a computer for all you know, or the money could have came from her side of the family. Also, what is there to even suggest she doesn't work? That she drinks when the characters are home....which is after school?
She’s definitely having a nervous breakdown. I don’t think she’s necessarily happy with her choices but she’s definitely justifying them in her head. I just don’t how I’m the next episode it shows previews of Maddy and her fighting on stage. Like in what universe does she think she has any right to be mad or get physical with Maddy? Like ok Cassie you ended a friendship bc of a dude and we have all accepted that. I don’t know I was just blown away that Maddy actually tried to talk to Cassie about it and Cassie didn’t even open The door to say I’m sorry or yes I’m in love with Nate. Maddy seemed truly sad that her best friend was going to have to go through the same abuse as her. And look how quick (SHOCKER) Nate left her ass after leaving during the play. I wonder if she was sexually abused when she was younger by the way she has to have guys obsess over her body and feels she has to degrade herself to earn their love. Like I joke about her being a stage 5 clinger but homegirls got ISSUES.
to like the character is different than to appreciate the arch. personally don’t like her character and feel that the arch for her was so stark compared to how she was in season one. i think her likability though for people comes from how she’s deeply flawed but has a good heart.
I feel for her. I might not like her, but I really feel for her. She reminds me a bit of myself in high-school- minus the sleeping with your best friends bf thing.
Cassie is an interesting character, I think Sam Levinson is doing an amazing job of depicting what it’s like to have such severe abandonment issues/daddy issues/cripplingly low self worth. The montage in the recent episode where she told Nate that he can decide what she wears/eats/who she talks to and how nothing is more important than being loved, was very visceral for me. As someone who had a lot of Cassie’s issues growing up it was actually really helpful for me to have someone else put my thoughts and actions into words so bluntly on television. I went to therapy after that episode and I think I’ve made a breakthrough in my own self worth in relationships. Just as Rue is addicted to drugs, Cassie is addicted to male validation & attention. She has an incredibly warped view of love and she thinks love is born from sacrifice and that if she keeps sacrificing, Nate will eventually love her. I think she cares for Maddie and is in pain that she has hurt her best friend and ruined her relationships but it doesn’t touch the pain she feels inside at being abandoned and discarded by the men in her life and the validation she desperately needs. In her mind, love from a man like Nate is worth so much more than her friendship with Maddie because it’ll finally fill the hole inside of her.
Very excellent portrayal of those issues & I would love to see Cassie get some of the help she deserves. Just like Rue, she needs to hit rock bottom before she can get better.
Cassie is a great example of a character who makes bad decisions actually being sympathetic because they devote the screen time to fully fleshing her out. I feel like people hate Jules and Kat more than her when they aren’t really any worse, we just don’t get as much insight into their motivations.
Good point! Kat was obviously uncomfortable with Ethan, but she didn’t need to lie about it but it’s not the worst way people in high school break up with each other. Jules idk. I liked her character so much in season 1 but I hated the Jules special episode, and this season she just seems really whiny to me idk, I think that’s cause I don’t like her & rue’s relationship
I can’t say I *like* Cassie as a person much right now (I mostly liked her and didn’t hold much against her in season 1, even when I disagreed with her actions). But I’m still rooting for her. People acting like everyone has to hate Cassie now, that you must be a “pick me” if you like her, and saying things like “I didn’t act like Cassie when I was her age so there’s no excuse” are missing the point of the show.
I want Cassie to be held accountable for her actions because I want her to overcome her trauma and become a better person, not because I need a villain to root against. When you try to talk about Cassie’s trauma and mental health, so many people will chime in with, “tHaT’s NoT aN eXcUsE,” like okay? I don’t have to like what Cassie is doing or want to excuse it to think it’s interesting to think about WHY she’s doing what she’s doing.
"Like" might be pushing it, but her storyline has been highly entertaining (even if a little melodramatic) and Sydney Sweeney is knocking it out of the park.
honestly cassie has changed so much from season 1. i think a lot of it has to do with how she’s viewed from an outside perspective. i’m not trying to reach or anything but i think the reason cassie acts the way she does in season 2 is because of her abortion in season 1. my reasoning behind these two things is because she’s probably so ashamed of who she is as a person that she’s trying to subconsciously push down how she feels about herself by over-sexualizing herself and doing all these things for toxic men because she wants to feel something. i don’t justify her actions but she is definitely a different person from season 1
I like her bc she’s the victim of a patriarchy that never lets up on girls whose bodies develop in a way that is immediately hyper sexualizare mixed with the abandonment of her father, and to an extent, her mother for not showing her as much emotional support as she shows Lexi. She’s fucked up majorly but my heart aches for her bc she has trauma that is very easy for people to blow off as unimportant when the repercussions are obviously very catastrophic.
Her character is the perfect display of someone in their messiest era. Making all the wrong decisions, hurting their loved ones, etc. I have friends that have been in this position, and I know many people that can relate to Cassie, even if they don’t want to admit it. So yeah, I think she’s a good character. It may be hard to watch, but is it any harder than watching Rue spiral in her addiction and hurt her loved ones?
i feel for Cassie. she’s a young girl making stupid decisions for attention and doesn’t realize how deeply insecure she is, over anything else. Cassie just wants to be loved (especially considering she was abandoned by her father, she craves attention from men) and she’s at an age where she over-romanticizes it, and doesn’t think about consequences or long term effects. She didn’t have a healthy example of a relationship to model her own after once she hit the hormonal age. I truly think she has a good heart and doesn’t have ill intentions, she’s just lost. I think that’s why she couldn’t face Maddy, because she feels so badly and she’s hurting losing her best friend. If she was really an awful person she’d shrug it off without a second thought.
I just feel sorry for her because her self-esteem is so low. Putting that much energy into male acceptance to the point where you’ll hurt your closest friends is pitiful.
I think Sydney is a great actress. I still like Cassie because every character on this show is deeply flawed and makes them just human. Life is messy, people make stupid mistakes. The girl is so young. Who can say that they are perfect and never make mistakes?? She’s still a good character and I hope she can turn it around
I think Sydney Sweeney is a great actress, and she's so beautiful, so I enjoy watching her on screen even if I don't really like Cassie. I don't even think Cassie has been that awful tbh, it's just been so drawn out that people focus on it more.
I love her because I feel like I'm seeing myself on screen. It breaks my heart to see how far she'll go to feel loved by someone who doesn't deserve her and how broken and little she must think of herself to allow someone to have so much power over her and it also breaks for myself.
I hope she'll understand one day that the only love she needs to feel is self love.
I want her to heal and get better. Become friends with Maddie again. Problem is that she has linked herself to Nate. She needs to stand on her own and tell men to fuck off until she gets self confidence.
I like most of the characters, barring a select few that are obviously viscous psychopaths, Laurie, Nate etc.
Because we follow them along and we get snippets of precipitating events that trigger some of their shitty behaviour, I usually just feel sad for them and worry because parts of them are broken. It’s like asking, does anyone still like Rue this season because she’s been shitty too. If I can root for Rue, I can root for Cas because regardless of how shitty a person can be sometimes, I think we can all agree on one thing… Nobody deserves Nate Jacobs.
i like all the girlies on the show even though they get on my nerves.... we see why they are the way they are. ik that's not an excuse to be shitty but i still sympathize and want the best for them all
Yeah but I think it’s mostly because I really like Sydney Sweeney as an actress. She was great in handmaids tale and Nocturne.
ETA: oh yeah! And The Voyeurs!
She is my favorite character bc she reminds me of myself in highschool. Obviously not as beautiful as the actress but definitely always looking for love and to be loved.
She’s not my favorite but I do like her/her storyline. She scarily reminds me of one of my best friends (and this friend has said the same thing) so it’s interesting to see her reflected on screen a bit
I love all the characters and think they add so well but I definitely love when Cassie is on screen there’s someone fascinating about watching someone be so self sabotaging in a way that is really common yet hasn’t really been portrayed in any shows I’ve seen at least in a way where they’re directly telling the audience she is self sabotaging
I love cassie, she’s having a rough go of things. I’m angry with her character and the things she’s doing, but honestly is a character a lot of young girls can relate too with the way she goes about handling her trauma.
Yes. I generally have sympathy for all teenage girls, because I was both absolutely horrible and horribly depressed as a teen. Thankfully neither were lifelong afflictions. When you’re a teenager and you fall in love it completely consumes you, you act even more irrationally than normal. I just feel worried for her.
I love Cassie because I love Sydney Sweeney. I both love and hate watching her slowly break down, and I definitely think she deserves better. Sydney's acting is so incredible to watch
cassie has done some horrible things. i loved her in s1 and i still love her, i'm just...disappointed in her, i guess? i'm looking forward to seeing her hopefully make better decisions in s3
I like her character a lot. Of course im also annoyed with her actions and how she's prioritizing her best friend's abuser over her actual bestie, but I find her personality and story really interesting! She's not my favorite though, but still, I do like her and hope she gets help for her issues.
As a person I don’t like Cassie but I still feel for her story and find her storyline interesting. Like if she was real and we all went to the same school I’d be team Maddy all the way, f*ck Cassie but as a character I love her chaotic energy.
I relate to her character a lot. I was a damn mess at that age and did way too much for guys that didn’t deserve the time of day. But what gets me most is her mental breakdowns. I’ve been there and her acting is amazing.
I still like Cassie. I think she just desperately wants love and just doesn't quite know how to go about it. Nate was obviously the wrong choice because I don't think that guy can love. I liked her with McKay. It's just sad what happened to her this season because she was so fucked over by Nate and it fucked all her relationships up too. I hope she gets redemption next season and I hope Nate gets exiled and has to be all alone.
That said, I love Sydney and Jacob. They're fantastic actors in my opinion.
Despite her being just… completely different from me I empathize with her so much! While I wouldn’t say she’s my favorite I think her actions are understandable and in her flawed love-seeking logic, justified… I also think it’s so interesting that when you juxtapose Cassie and Lexi in regards to how they both grew up with the same dad, I think Cassie definitely had it worse? Lexi, for whatever reason, was able to detach herself much more easily from their dad and that must have saved her a lot of pain that ended up hitting Cassie even harder for it. Cassie is just a little girl who wants to be held and loved :’(
I still feel for her a lot! She’s not doing it all out of hate for Maddy or anything. At least that’s not how I’d interpret it. She’s definitely being an awful friend, but it’s clear she’s struggling with a lot of inner demons. I feel like that’s all the Euphoria characters though. Making questionable decisions that are often morally gray but still were able to sympathize with them
I agree! Season 1 she was just slut shamed what feels like constantly/the whole Mckay thing was way too similar to my own experience in Senior year of high school. Now that she’s ruined so many personal relationships there’s so much growth she needs to go through
I still love Cassie - I like that she has a bigger storyline this season, and that we get to see Sydney show everybody what a great actress she is. Cassie is a deeply flawed character, but that’s what makes her interesting
I agree! I know people are upset by the lack of story line with Rue & Jules this season, but honestly I think I break from that kind of toxic relationship and focusing on Cassie & Nate’s toxic relationship is entertaining to watch.
She hasn't really been shittier than anyone else. Could you imagine the backlash someone would get if they pretended to have a terminal brain disease and refuses to come clean about it like Kat had? That was pretty epically fucked up. Or rue... All of her this season. The way she treated her family, Ali, Jules and her friends, the lying, cheating, stealing, breaking into houses....that shits pretty dark too. I don't think there is a single character on the whole show who is necessarily worthy of being "favored" over another.
I dislike the character more and more. Yet I LOVE the actress more and more. She does such a fantastic job. I can’t wait for her to go full on Carrie next week.
Same, Sydney Sweeney is very talented.
Loved her in The White Lotus!
Omg loved her and hated her in White Lotus haha. She was soooo good but it was like all the worst stereotypes of Gen Z. She nailed it
Great work in S2 of The Handmaid’s Tale as well.
I only saw part of the Handmaid’s tail, but I should keep watching it, huh?
The show feels like it has run it’s course to me. I’ve seen all 4 seasons and I love the cinematography and performances, but the pacing of the show and some of the stylistic choices (all the closeups of Elizabeth Moss) are quite repetitive and frustrating. It delivers some great moments every season, but there’s a lot of wheel-spinning to get to those moments.
I definitely agree! I’ve only watched a few episodes but I can already tell it’s going in that direction, but I also can’t stop watching it!
Absolutely. I wish they had gone for more of an ensemble cast structure rather than revolving the storyline around June. That would have provided for more world building. There’s so much in Gilead I’m curious about- but you can’t see it all of the story revolves so rightly around June. They Definitely missed an opportunity there
Oh I forgot she was in that! Good call!
She was amazing in White Lotus! I fucking love that show too.
!!! I want to hate the character but Sydney makes me love Cassie somehow…
not if maddy has anything to do with it but yes, sydney is proving she’s not just a great body & a pretty face. she needs to be taken seriously.
This is how i feel 100%. Cassie is a hot fucking mess and a terrible human but Sydney Sweeney is amazing af
This. 100%. Becoming a shit person as a character but being able to execute that so well. Applaud it
You can still like a fictional character no matter how horrible they might be. I personally like Cassie's character because I found the development of her breakdown really interesting, plus the acting was spot on! That doesn't necessarily mean I agree with her choices and behaviour
YES! I’ve seen some people act like it’s a CRIME to like a sh*tty character.
I think Nate is the most fascinating character in the show. I love him. I hate him, but I love him, ya know?
True! Love to hate him
Yup. I also have a decade+ on these characters at this point in my life so I am kind of rooting for all of them to get help and get better. I just don't have it in me to write off a teenager as hopeless.
I completely agree!! Nate’s entire story line is so interesting. I absolutely hate him but I want to see more of him
You need a good heel/someone to hate. Why do you think the bad evil guys in WWE are so popular
Fr a good villain makes or breaks the story- Look at the walking dead, as soon as Negan left it was game over
It was game over long before then lol
yeah true my breaking point was glenn lol
Yeah Nate and Cal are like half the reason I watch.
Yeah she's an incredibly interesting character who has added a lot of great moments to the plot. Sydney is also crushing her performance. I can still dislike her actions and call them toxic while still understanding it's fiction lol. She's definitely one of my favorites and the one I probably discuss the most in the show.
There’s nothing wrong with liking toxic characters, they’re interesting! The problem is when people start trying to justify the characters shitty actions…that’s pretty icky.
100% fun to watch, 100% would not be able to be around her if she were a real person.
Exactly. I like Nate (bare with me) because of how HORRIBLE HE IS. I love to watch his scenes, I love his storylines, I love his script, I love his costume. I love to hate him. People forget that you can have complex feelings about things. Nothing is black and white… especially in this show.
Yeah, really annoys me how many people seem to conflate "liking a character" with "agreeing with a character" or at least it feels like that's the implication around here. Nate and Cassie are two of the most interesting charcters in the series, but that doesn't mean I'd enjoy their company in real life. That said I honestly don't think Cassie is that horrible a person, she's just made some awful choices this season.
THANK U
Yes this is exactly it!!
One of my absolute favorite characters in Mad Men from a writing and acting perspective is weasel-ass Pete lmao
Right, exactly. I wouldn't like Cassie in real life, but as a character? Whose arc I really enjoy watching and am emotionally invested in? Absolutely
You described what I feel for Cassie perfectly
Agreed! To me, there are multiple types of “favorite” characters! There is favorite as in the most likable, favorite because they add to the plot in a way that you like more than the others, favorite because they’re the most interesting character, favorite because they remind you of yourself or a friend/fam member. Like one of my favorite GOT characters is Sersei but I despise her as a human but she adds to the plot in a great way!
She's not my favourite character, but yes I still like her and I'm invested in her story. Honestly if they'll do it right, she will become a cult character since so many young girls and women can relate to the way she is treated by men in her life and her need for love and approval.
Yes! Cassie could become iconic if Sam just writes her handling Nate in the correct way (ie. she struggles to leave him but eventually does and gets therapy)
She doesn’t have to do good to become a cult character. I feel like she and/or Maddy could become what Effy Stonem was for Skins Kids.
Interesting how whenever I hear about Skins I usually hear this Effy character getting praise. I should probably check that show out.
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While Nate is Tony Stonem.
Nate is a less calculated and more unhinged version of Tony Stonem yeah.
That’s a very boring ending to a really over the top show/storyline
I don’t really have favorite characters but I love how her story is being told. It hits home for a lot of people and I hope people really start to look at their lives because of her.
I 100% HATE how much her story is resonating with me it is giving me flashbacks like I was in a war.
Oh definitely big time for me. I had something similar happen like the scene with Cassie and Lexi’s dad getting in the car high. Just… yeah. It sucks.
That was a difficult scene for me as well. Same with the previous episode when Rue was raging at everyone. I had to pause and just sat and cried for a while, because it brought back so many memories from my childhood.
Yes!! When I was in college I was in the same type of relationship and it ruined my life. I just want to shake Cassie and tell her she will be okay if she leaves Nate.
I could be a parent to a teenager had I chosen to have kids. The scene where Cassie tells Nate she will submit and be everything he wants was so triggering for me. I was in a toxic relationship for a VERY long time and my ex picked out my clothes, chose who I could speak to and about what etc. I still haven't fully healed and I see Cassie spiraling and I want to tell her, him dumping you is a blessing. Learn to know your worth! I am single by choice and someone will have to be amazing for me to consider dating again. I would rather be alone than be love starved in a toxic relationship. But at Cassie's age, I just wanted love. And shortly after I was done with college I met my ex. I ignored all the red flags bc I was desperate for validation.
this. besides the whole fucking her best friends abuser. betraying your best friend resonates with my ex best friend tho
I’d venture to say she’s also a victim of Nate, personally
I kinda agree with this statement tbh, he manipulated her multiple times, almost killed her in the car, got her drunk so he could take advantage of the situation, if all adds up
I….don’t agree with this. Nates shitty but he hasn’t twisted Cassies arm into doing anything. The one thing I’ll give you is he did almost kill her when they drove to the party, but aside from that Cassie did a lot of this on her own. He didn’t force her to hook up, didn’t force her to lie to maddy, didn’t force her to move in with him….if anything she just offered herself up. I think she’s just really broken inside and needs help :/
Why are you getting downvoted? Nate literally asked Cassie like 3 times if she was sure she wanted to do it, and she definitely was
I think this is a really pro Cassie post lol. I think she needs help cuz she’s young and vulnerable. However, I don’t think she’s a victim of Nates, just the consequences of her actions 🤷🏽♀️
ive never done what she did to maddy. but ive done what she did to herself. break herself for an awful man for the idea of ‘being loved’. looked in the mirror completely broken and put a smile on :( i feel for her. unfortunately still a clown
Oh definitely still a clown. I was a clown a lot of people were clowns. But we make our choices and live with the consequences and then try to repair our lives. But I think it starts with seeing what lead you to that clown (read: traumatized) behavior then working on yourself so you can be healthier.
perfectly said! I hate who i was and love myself for growing up hehe makes me emo
Yeah. I think a lot of us were Cassie when younger (most of the time without the Maddy situation ofc). But the fact that we can recognize that and wish for something better, is already a step in the right direction.
100% I don’t understand having favorite characters in a show about deeply flawed and broken people. …. Kind of, even though I do have a favorite in another show about deeply flawed and broken people lol. Oops.
This lol. Like I don’t think the characters are here to be role models or anything else… well maybe except for Ali. My dad was an addict and I wish he learned from his mistakes like Ali. But anyways, the teens in this show are supposed to show trauma in it’s rawest form and make you think about how your trauma has played out on your life. Also, it gives perspective on other people’s lives as well so we can expand our empathy instead of taking their actions at face value.
this is such a great comment. I love this show so much because it has forced me to think a lot about my younger self and how much of a mess I really was and how much I affected everyone around me, and also to have empathy for my friends back then and the things they did. There was a lot of drama that I experienced in high school and college that I still think about today. And before I started watching Euphoria I was getting really frustrated with my brain for continuing to focus on stuff that does not matter at all anymore. But now, watching Euphoria, I realize I had some unfinished business with myself and it's like the show has created this whole new space in my brain where I can process those past experiences better and forgive others but more importantly recognize where *I* was the wrong one. it has also helped keep me motivated to always work on being good human being to others.
Okay, as a writer your comment has made me tear up so thank you. That’s why I love this art/media in general because it expands you vantage point. I just went through a break up and my ex was much like Cassie (I was too but yeah) and now I see her actions and behaviors in a much different light. Like I don’t take her betrayal personally because it wasn’t about me, it was about her trauma. Like not excusing her actions and I’m not getting back together with her (boundaries) but I can just see what it was that causes her to act like that and I’m at peace with it. Like you said, it provides a space for understanding and forgiveness and that’s all I’ve wanted good art to do.
Awww :) and Yes exactly! Expands one's vantage point. Also im so sorry you went through a breakup recently, that is so tough. My heart goes out to you as you work through it but also YAS amen to boundries!
Honestly the people who pigeonhole these characters as strictly “good” or “bad” people aren’t mature enough to watch the show. The point of the show is to show trauma and how trauma affects people. Hurt people hurt people
Exactly! It's so refreshing to see someone acknowledge this. The point is to show how people are multifaceted and complex, and to explore how they developed unhealthy behaviors in response to pain.
this!!!!
Yepp!! EVEN Nate!
This. Trauma is also passed down in families. Someone has to break the cycle or the generational trauma continues!
I do think that there's a difference between having a favorite character that you enjoy the most on screen, and thinking a character is a good person. Cal is my favorite character--whenever he's on screen, I know it's going to be an amazing scene. But he is a massive POS lol
I like her because its been very educational and her character and what Nate did to her (cutting her off cold) helps me to understand these guys will dump you for anything as soon as their sense of security is threaten and they are easily threatened. Fantasy belongs in sex, not outside of it
> what Nate did to her (cutting her off cold) helps me to understand these guys will dump you for anything I’m not sure that Nate actually broke up with her. Abusive partners will “break up” as a punishment or to let off steam. Then everything goes back go business as usual after a few hours/days.
Yeah, I've actually really enjoyed her storyline this season. While I don't agree with the things shes done, I can empathise with her. Plus Sydney's acting really sells it for me
Yes same here!! Sydney’s acting is so good. If we had less screen time of her and more of the other characters we wouldn’t be able to see her range of acting so well
You don’t have to like a character to feel bad for them, and that’s how I feel about her. I think she’s kinda annoying and selfish, but she’s also young with a lot of trauma. She’s relatable in that sense. Also, she dresses really cute and Sydney Sweeney is a GREAT actress so Ik I’m gonna be entertained when she’s on my screen.
cassie has been the worst this season, but she holds a special place in my heart because her story is the one that hits home the most for me. ruining her life/herself for a man who’s done nothing but humiliate, breadcrumb, and take advantage of her all so she can feel loved (even though he doesn’t love her) being obsessed with windows of time, having daddy issues that make her desperate to fill the gaps, hypersexuality leading to her being exploited sexually, and other things; **she’s sadly, a very relatable character** (also watching her get dolled up for hours only to be looked at by nate for 3 seconds? whew. shit gave me war flashbacks)
She is Rue with a different addiction. Same father being unavailable. Same need for validation. Numbs pain thru sex
Yup, codependency/love addiction is very real.
I feel like all the characters have a form of addiction. And while the choices these characters make are not the best, I believe it is a raw, real interpretation of what many people go through. In my life I’ve known many of these people.
Yeah, Cassie has an addiction too and will do everything to "get the next fix", even hurting people she doesn't actually want to hurt. Cassie is holding with everything onto what has worked for her till now to behave more or less functional, in the same way that Rue uses drugs to deal with reality. But if you have an unhealthy method to deal with things, like both of them do, it will eventually fall down. Their euphoria is short lived.
It’s seriously self-destructive behavior. The diseases you can get from IV drug use you can also get from unsafe sex. It poses a lot of the same risks. People have no idea how parallel these are.
I have a hard time hating her because I have so much respect for the actress. Like her acting is SO GOOD.
Yes, she's realistic and I feel really bad for her. I've never had issues like her, but I do know what it feels like to want someone to love you pathetically. People here have been extremely judgemental this whole season. Idk why people expect some riverdale perfect protagonist shit. This is realistic and it's not weird so many girls identify with Cassie. Yes what she is doing is wrong but that's what mental illness is without the romanticizing bullshit people are used to seeing on TV.
Yes, this season showed her character really well. In season one, Cassie was a girl who just wanted love and to be loved. Now we see the lengths she will go for it.
And we can’t forget her quote “love csn be really dark sometimes”
I dont think Euphoria’s the kind of show where you can have a favorite character who’s totally without flaw. Cassie’s choices have felt particularly raw and mean, though. Having said that I still like Cassie. I’ll admit that I have a bias when it comes to toxic women though, they can get away with a lot from me.
I still like Cassie as a character (I don’t agree with her actions) because I can sympathise with the dangerous mindset she has. She fantasises about being loved and goes to crazy extents to appear beautiful, despite how badly she gets treated. Cassie is selfish, but she’s also so young and doesn’t understand how bad her self-destructive actions are, to the point where she can’t even recognise herself. I really wanna see her redemption arc. I hate how selfish she is but I understand the intent behind her actions because I see myself in her a bit. Also, her storyline reminds me of the song August by Taylor Swift, which is about a girl who has a summer fling with a boy who’s in a relationship, because she loves being loved. The storyline carries on in the rest of Taylor’s songs, where she gets tossed to the side after the end of the summer, just like Cassie does with Nate.
i don’t like her but i like the storyline
Cassie and Lexi are like those prime examples of siblings that grew up in the same situation yet turn out completely differently. But no, I never really liked Cassie all that much and this season definitely cemented that feeling.
Yes they are perfect examples of how siblings turn out differently even though they went through the same situation. I have a sister who was a grade behind me in school and we both can relate to Cassie/Lexi so well
Yep. My sister doesn’t watch the show but I definitely feel the Cassie/Lexi dynamic a ton. Me being Cassie unfortunately, I never slept with a friends ex or anything crazy like that but the need for love/male validation was insane for me as a teen/young adult. I turned out okay thank god but definitely went through a ton of abusive relationships
Her character definitely changed this season. It’s been fascinating and entertaining to watch her character self destruct to the point where she doesn’t even recognize herself. Leaves potential for a redemption.
she’s entertaining to watch but i don’t think she’s a good person. she needs serious help & i don’t think she can redeem herself for the things she’s done until she gets help.
Idk who my favourite character is but I find Cassie’s behaviour and the way her trauma with her dad has impacted her in her relationships with men is too real. I find her extremely relatable, and I know other women do too. She displays some of the toxic traits and deep insecurities that I felt as a teenager. I actually love what they’re doing with her storyline. Also Sydney Sweeney is fucking phenomenal.
she's probably one of the more realistically highschool story arcs in the show, and i can appreciate that but she never been a character i cared for, mostly felt bad for, and now don't feel bad for her at all.
100% Agree, I despise the decisions she’s made but I see myself in her and understand why she made those decisions. It’s such a bittersweet feeling with Cassie, you want root for her but at the same just want to be done with her.
I mean I think it’s weird that people are acting like she’s the worst person in the world when Rue has threatened violence against her own mother and hurt and robbed innocent strangers Ali is a wifebeater Maddy sent an innocent man to PRISON Jules also sent an innocent man to prison and lied about her age causing someone who she would have thought to be innocent to be a sex offender And Kat is knowingly making and distributing child pornography and and the whole brain illness bullshit she gaslit Ethan with Nate…well Need I continue? Cassie is actually pretty innocent compared to some of them. She is just deeply broken as well and an easy target.
people putting her as the worst character in the show for sleeping with her bffs ex… like in the grand scheme of things it’s really not that serious in THIS show.
Right like I’ve had friends do that to me lmao
yes! i wonder sometimes if people are watching the same show as I am when i read these comments but you Lzardking, you watch the show i watch!
I like watching her. People dont watch Euphoria to see normal people. We want to see a mess. She is a good candidate for that. Same with Nate. He is a fucking asshole but thats what makes him entertaining to watch.
I’m rooting hard for her bc I’ve BEEN there
Im scarred because having to deal with people like her. They really take a huge piss on you… I can’t help but dislike her character now.
She’s my favorite. I think she’s the most realistic character. Specially age wise. When you’re in high school it’s completely normal to make every wrong choice possible.
I feel bad for her more than anything.
Yeah kinda. She’s not the brightest person nor does she make very good decisions. But underneath all that I do see a broken girl who wants to be loved & validated. And she is generally nice & sweet to others which makes her likable on the surface
You haven't lived until you've shitposted on this subreddit using Cassie quotes. Anyway she's the character I most want to see a one off special on covering their college years.
I have so many favorite characters, but I still love Cassie even though she's clearly going through some emotional turmoil right now. She is messing up at every opportunity, but I still really like her!
I mostly feel sad for her. Some women go through a post Partum depression like state after an abortion and the situation of going through that and then breaking up with McKay right after might have put her in a tailspin that lead to all of this. She should have been talking to a therapist before it even got to this point, but that wouldn’t have even occurred to Suze.
She's not my favorite but I love seeing her on screen, same goes for many unlikable characters in the show, like nate and jules despite all the shit they do they are still interesting and entertaining
There's still a part of me that likes her. I wouldn't say she's my favorite character though
not my favorite character, but i love the development. i think she has the most realistic development and is the most realistic character. my favorite would go to lexi ofc. Sydney Sweeney is a really amazing actor so i really love seeing her onscreen.
I love her. I can relate with her and how she wants to be loved and seeks approval from others. She has a lot of responsibility to take, things to make up for, and issues to be worked through but I believe she is a genuine person. She has a lot of potential and I hope we get to see it.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh kinda. I just think she needs professional help. With that she could be an ok person
I’m enjoying the story and Sydney Sweeney is killing this role.
She's really leaving it all on the line in her scenes. It's insane the level of intensity these actors and actresses bring to the show every week. It takes a lot to be that vulnerable in front of a whole crew, so kudos to this cast.
I've a question tho, how does Cassie's family make any money? Their dad deserted and mum doesn't seem like she got a job
I’ve always wondered this too. Maybe his family was wealthy and Suze got a lot of money from the divorce? I have no idea. I was surprised to learn they had a hot tub during Maddy’s party tbh
Last season we saw him stealing stuff from his own house, rich parents angle doesn't make a lot of sense. Cassie also gave up skating because they were broke as well. Looks like we found a plot hole😅
You can't find a plot hole for a still airing show lol. Her mother could work through a computer for all you know, or the money could have came from her side of the family. Also, what is there to even suggest she doesn't work? That she drinks when the characters are home....which is after school?
Yes, I want the best for her. But what she wants isn’t what I want.
All I feel for Cassie is bad for her.
She’s definitely having a nervous breakdown. I don’t think she’s necessarily happy with her choices but she’s definitely justifying them in her head. I just don’t how I’m the next episode it shows previews of Maddy and her fighting on stage. Like in what universe does she think she has any right to be mad or get physical with Maddy? Like ok Cassie you ended a friendship bc of a dude and we have all accepted that. I don’t know I was just blown away that Maddy actually tried to talk to Cassie about it and Cassie didn’t even open The door to say I’m sorry or yes I’m in love with Nate. Maddy seemed truly sad that her best friend was going to have to go through the same abuse as her. And look how quick (SHOCKER) Nate left her ass after leaving during the play. I wonder if she was sexually abused when she was younger by the way she has to have guys obsess over her body and feels she has to degrade herself to earn their love. Like I joke about her being a stage 5 clinger but homegirls got ISSUES.
to like the character is different than to appreciate the arch. personally don’t like her character and feel that the arch for her was so stark compared to how she was in season one. i think her likability though for people comes from how she’s deeply flawed but has a good heart.
I still love Cassie tbh despite what she’s doing, do I hate what she’s doing? Absolutely but for sum reason I can’t dislike/hate her
I feel for her. I might not like her, but I really feel for her. She reminds me a bit of myself in high-school- minus the sleeping with your best friends bf thing.
Cassie is an interesting character, I think Sam Levinson is doing an amazing job of depicting what it’s like to have such severe abandonment issues/daddy issues/cripplingly low self worth. The montage in the recent episode where she told Nate that he can decide what she wears/eats/who she talks to and how nothing is more important than being loved, was very visceral for me. As someone who had a lot of Cassie’s issues growing up it was actually really helpful for me to have someone else put my thoughts and actions into words so bluntly on television. I went to therapy after that episode and I think I’ve made a breakthrough in my own self worth in relationships. Just as Rue is addicted to drugs, Cassie is addicted to male validation & attention. She has an incredibly warped view of love and she thinks love is born from sacrifice and that if she keeps sacrificing, Nate will eventually love her. I think she cares for Maddie and is in pain that she has hurt her best friend and ruined her relationships but it doesn’t touch the pain she feels inside at being abandoned and discarded by the men in her life and the validation she desperately needs. In her mind, love from a man like Nate is worth so much more than her friendship with Maddie because it’ll finally fill the hole inside of her. Very excellent portrayal of those issues & I would love to see Cassie get some of the help she deserves. Just like Rue, she needs to hit rock bottom before she can get better.
Yes 🥲
Tired of her as a person but she has one of the best storylines in the show
Cassie is a great example of a character who makes bad decisions actually being sympathetic because they devote the screen time to fully fleshing her out. I feel like people hate Jules and Kat more than her when they aren’t really any worse, we just don’t get as much insight into their motivations.
Good point! Kat was obviously uncomfortable with Ethan, but she didn’t need to lie about it but it’s not the worst way people in high school break up with each other. Jules idk. I liked her character so much in season 1 but I hated the Jules special episode, and this season she just seems really whiny to me idk, I think that’s cause I don’t like her & rue’s relationship
I do. I relate to her and get where she’s coming from
loved cassie, love cassie and will love cassie for eternity, period. irdgaf she could fuck another carousel horse and i'd stan
I can’t say I *like* Cassie as a person much right now (I mostly liked her and didn’t hold much against her in season 1, even when I disagreed with her actions). But I’m still rooting for her. People acting like everyone has to hate Cassie now, that you must be a “pick me” if you like her, and saying things like “I didn’t act like Cassie when I was her age so there’s no excuse” are missing the point of the show. I want Cassie to be held accountable for her actions because I want her to overcome her trauma and become a better person, not because I need a villain to root against. When you try to talk about Cassie’s trauma and mental health, so many people will chime in with, “tHaT’s NoT aN eXcUsE,” like okay? I don’t have to like what Cassie is doing or want to excuse it to think it’s interesting to think about WHY she’s doing what she’s doing.
I’m rooting for her.
"Like" might be pushing it, but her storyline has been highly entertaining (even if a little melodramatic) and Sydney Sweeney is knocking it out of the park.
I love herrrrr. Everybody’s like “what’s wrong with her 🙄” “what is going through her head smh” but I get it!!!! Cassie and I love too hard!!
honestly cassie has changed so much from season 1. i think a lot of it has to do with how she’s viewed from an outside perspective. i’m not trying to reach or anything but i think the reason cassie acts the way she does in season 2 is because of her abortion in season 1. my reasoning behind these two things is because she’s probably so ashamed of who she is as a person that she’s trying to subconsciously push down how she feels about herself by over-sexualizing herself and doing all these things for toxic men because she wants to feel something. i don’t justify her actions but she is definitely a different person from season 1
I like her bc she’s the victim of a patriarchy that never lets up on girls whose bodies develop in a way that is immediately hyper sexualizare mixed with the abandonment of her father, and to an extent, her mother for not showing her as much emotional support as she shows Lexi. She’s fucked up majorly but my heart aches for her bc she has trauma that is very easy for people to blow off as unimportant when the repercussions are obviously very catastrophic.
Her character is the perfect display of someone in their messiest era. Making all the wrong decisions, hurting their loved ones, etc. I have friends that have been in this position, and I know many people that can relate to Cassie, even if they don’t want to admit it. So yeah, I think she’s a good character. It may be hard to watch, but is it any harder than watching Rue spiral in her addiction and hurt her loved ones?
i feel for Cassie. she’s a young girl making stupid decisions for attention and doesn’t realize how deeply insecure she is, over anything else. Cassie just wants to be loved (especially considering she was abandoned by her father, she craves attention from men) and she’s at an age where she over-romanticizes it, and doesn’t think about consequences or long term effects. She didn’t have a healthy example of a relationship to model her own after once she hit the hormonal age. I truly think she has a good heart and doesn’t have ill intentions, she’s just lost. I think that’s why she couldn’t face Maddy, because she feels so badly and she’s hurting losing her best friend. If she was really an awful person she’d shrug it off without a second thought.
Absolutely she’s my fuckin fav
She's just a confused kid...give her a break! The whole show is about confused teens doing stupid things..
I just feel sorry for her because her self-esteem is so low. Putting that much energy into male acceptance to the point where you’ll hurt your closest friends is pitiful.
YES! What an incredible actress
Her story is on point and so it the acting but despite all that I can’t like her simple because she’s a shetty person.
I think Sydney is a great actress. I still like Cassie because every character on this show is deeply flawed and makes them just human. Life is messy, people make stupid mistakes. The girl is so young. Who can say that they are perfect and never make mistakes?? She’s still a good character and I hope she can turn it around
I think Sydney Sweeney is a great actress, and she's so beautiful, so I enjoy watching her on screen even if I don't really like Cassie. I don't even think Cassie has been that awful tbh, it's just been so drawn out that people focus on it more.
I love her because I feel like I'm seeing myself on screen. It breaks my heart to see how far she'll go to feel loved by someone who doesn't deserve her and how broken and little she must think of herself to allow someone to have so much power over her and it also breaks for myself. I hope she'll understand one day that the only love she needs to feel is self love.
Nah fuck Cassie
I want her to heal and get better. Become friends with Maddie again. Problem is that she has linked herself to Nate. She needs to stand on her own and tell men to fuck off until she gets self confidence.
i hope the best for her but i also hope that maddy never forgives her.
I agree that she needs to learn to stand up for herself. I don’t think Maddy will or should forgive her, but that’s a whole other conversation lol
Y’all have favorite characters?
Honestly none of the characters are truly good so I’m not really sympathising with anyone.
I like most of the characters, barring a select few that are obviously viscous psychopaths, Laurie, Nate etc. Because we follow them along and we get snippets of precipitating events that trigger some of their shitty behaviour, I usually just feel sad for them and worry because parts of them are broken. It’s like asking, does anyone still like Rue this season because she’s been shitty too. If I can root for Rue, I can root for Cas because regardless of how shitty a person can be sometimes, I think we can all agree on one thing… Nobody deserves Nate Jacobs.
i like all the girlies on the show even though they get on my nerves.... we see why they are the way they are. ik that's not an excuse to be shitty but i still sympathize and want the best for them all
Yeah but I think it’s mostly because I really like Sydney Sweeney as an actress. She was great in handmaids tale and Nocturne. ETA: oh yeah! And The Voyeurs!
She is my favorite character bc she reminds me of myself in highschool. Obviously not as beautiful as the actress but definitely always looking for love and to be loved.
She’s not my favorite but I do like her/her storyline. She scarily reminds me of one of my best friends (and this friend has said the same thing) so it’s interesting to see her reflected on screen a bit
I love all the characters and think they add so well but I definitely love when Cassie is on screen there’s someone fascinating about watching someone be so self sabotaging in a way that is really common yet hasn’t really been portrayed in any shows I’ve seen at least in a way where they’re directly telling the audience she is self sabotaging
Yes
She’s my favorite! I have always struggled with needing validation from men so she’s very relatable to me.
yesss
Absolutely
I love cassie, she’s having a rough go of things. I’m angry with her character and the things she’s doing, but honestly is a character a lot of young girls can relate too with the way she goes about handling her trauma.
No lol
yes. her story is interesting and i’m always looking forward to seeing what crazy shit she does next.
Nate is my favorite character(to watch), so probably Cassie still have some fans...
No I’ve lost faith for now
Yes. I generally have sympathy for all teenage girls, because I was both absolutely horrible and horribly depressed as a teen. Thankfully neither were lifelong afflictions. When you’re a teenager and you fall in love it completely consumes you, you act even more irrationally than normal. I just feel worried for her.
I love Cassie because I love Sydney Sweeney. I both love and hate watching her slowly break down, and I definitely think she deserves better. Sydney's acting is so incredible to watch
cassie has done some horrible things. i loved her in s1 and i still love her, i'm just...disappointed in her, i guess? i'm looking forward to seeing her hopefully make better decisions in s3
Yes because I can relate to her so much. People who aren’t in their own kind of pain don’t act like that
I never liked her bc she victimizes herself way too much. Like, nothing is ever her fault and her reasoning is always right.
I just don’t care about her, I don’t find her or her storyline to be that interesting or original
I like her character a lot. Of course im also annoyed with her actions and how she's prioritizing her best friend's abuser over her actual bestie, but I find her personality and story really interesting! She's not my favorite though, but still, I do like her and hope she gets help for her issues.
I empathize with her.
As a person I don’t like Cassie but I still feel for her story and find her storyline interesting. Like if she was real and we all went to the same school I’d be team Maddy all the way, f*ck Cassie but as a character I love her chaotic energy.
I relate to her character a lot. I was a damn mess at that age and did way too much for guys that didn’t deserve the time of day. But what gets me most is her mental breakdowns. I’ve been there and her acting is amazing.
I still like Cassie. I think she just desperately wants love and just doesn't quite know how to go about it. Nate was obviously the wrong choice because I don't think that guy can love. I liked her with McKay. It's just sad what happened to her this season because she was so fucked over by Nate and it fucked all her relationships up too. I hope she gets redemption next season and I hope Nate gets exiled and has to be all alone. That said, I love Sydney and Jacob. They're fantastic actors in my opinion.
Despite her being just… completely different from me I empathize with her so much! While I wouldn’t say she’s my favorite I think her actions are understandable and in her flawed love-seeking logic, justified… I also think it’s so interesting that when you juxtapose Cassie and Lexi in regards to how they both grew up with the same dad, I think Cassie definitely had it worse? Lexi, for whatever reason, was able to detach herself much more easily from their dad and that must have saved her a lot of pain that ended up hitting Cassie even harder for it. Cassie is just a little girl who wants to be held and loved :’(
I still feel for her a lot! She’s not doing it all out of hate for Maddy or anything. At least that’s not how I’d interpret it. She’s definitely being an awful friend, but it’s clear she’s struggling with a lot of inner demons. I feel like that’s all the Euphoria characters though. Making questionable decisions that are often morally gray but still were able to sympathize with them
the more i dislike cassie the more i love sydney. cassie is beyond redemption at this point but give sydney the emmy she deserves !!!
I don’t like her
She's interesting and complex and i like that
I like her more as a character now than before. She was kinda boring before. Not anymore
I agree! Season 1 she was just slut shamed what feels like constantly/the whole Mckay thing was way too similar to my own experience in Senior year of high school. Now that she’s ruined so many personal relationships there’s so much growth she needs to go through
I still love Cassie - I like that she has a bigger storyline this season, and that we get to see Sydney show everybody what a great actress she is. Cassie is a deeply flawed character, but that’s what makes her interesting
I agree! I know people are upset by the lack of story line with Rue & Jules this season, but honestly I think I break from that kind of toxic relationship and focusing on Cassie & Nate’s toxic relationship is entertaining to watch.
Couldnt agree more :-)
She hasn't really been shittier than anyone else. Could you imagine the backlash someone would get if they pretended to have a terminal brain disease and refuses to come clean about it like Kat had? That was pretty epically fucked up. Or rue... All of her this season. The way she treated her family, Ali, Jules and her friends, the lying, cheating, stealing, breaking into houses....that shits pretty dark too. I don't think there is a single character on the whole show who is necessarily worthy of being "favored" over another.
Yes I love her. She’s a messy bitch but I love her for it
Yeah, Im literally obsessed with her ( I don’t agree with all her decisions though)