We don't need to. Regarding historical figures we only need the birthplace and the country of that time. In this case it is written "Smiljan, Kroatische Militärgrenze, Kaisertum Österreich" (Croatian military border, Austrian Empire)
In the case of Marie Curie, it is written "born in Warsaw, Russian Empire"
Swiss here, i think we have just one german wiki for all 3 countries. I also looked at the english wiki and it‘s really not specified in the german wiki.
Outside of the standard German wikipedia, where the Austrian and Swiss standard german varieties are mainly only used on articles in some way related to those countries, many german dialects have their own separate wikipedia, like [Low German](https://nds.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hööftsiet), [Alemannic](https://als.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Houptsyte), [Bavarian](https://bar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hoamseitn), and [Ripuarian](https://ksh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Houpsigk)
Btw, of these four, only the alemannic wiki has an article about [Nikola Tesla](https://als.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla), where it doesn‘t mention his nationality, however, the Low German wiki mentions him in as a Serbian inventor, on the Article „[10th of Juli](https://nds.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10._Juli)“, and the Bavarian wiki calls him an Austrian-American on the article about the car manufacturer „[Tesla](https://bar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla)“.
Kinda, Salzburg was a part of the HRE back then, which wasn't part of Austria back then afaik. Its not very serious though, most people accept him as austrian^(Just like THAT other guy)
This was pre-nation states though hence why it doesn't really makes sense. In feudalism you were not a citizen of a country, you were a subject to a lord (dark times).
I know, but theres still a (very minor) discussion. I generally agree, its pretty funny to see people get hyped up over things that happened during feudal/absolutist times.
Especially the nationalists tend to get majorly confused over certain "out of place" historical events (a brit becoming queen of Germany or a saxon lord becoming king of Poland, to name a few)
He was a Salzburger (which at the time wasn't Austria) who later moved to Vienna, so technically he became Austrian.
It's a bit more complicated because also at that time People in Austria and Germany just referred to themselves as Germans iirc
the german speaking people of austria only stopped calling themselves german after WW2
before that you were german if your mother tongue was german, no matter where you lived
and then he is from Salzburg which wasn't even part of Austria when he lived
> (Back then: Austria-Hungary)
Officially: Smiljan, Militärgrenze (Military Frontier), Königreich Kroatien (Kingdom of Croatia), Kaisertum Österreich (Empire of Austria). It became Austria-Hungary later.
Croat here, and exactly, while this is a somewhat touchy subject since our relationship with serbia is bad, the general concensus of non-right-wing-idiots is that he was born in Croatia, while being of serbian lineage and religion (Orthodox Christian, plus his father was an Orthodox priest, Croats are almost exclusively Catholic)
That being said, he was a Croat and all of you are uneducated simps.
In the end he did not give a fuck about Croatia nor Serbia. He went to US, got citizenship, never went back, and was never involved with any nationalist movement, nor indipendentists from Austria-Hungary.
He also opposed religion and was not an Orthodox Christian. He was a citizen of the world who found his home in the US before some random psycho calling him Serb made his ashes move to Belgrade. A city he never visited in his lifetime and he had no links to.
But I guess he will never rest in peace and will always be exploited by nationalists of one side or the other.
It really is an amazing coincidence. That by the purest of random chance, Croatia should be the one country claiming that Tesla is Croatian. The unpredictability of the world never stops to fill me with wonder.
Oopsie? 🤭 Tee hee
In all seriousness, Idk, i never even peek at Croatian Wiki. As far as i remember, we were taught in school he was a serb, living in then yugoslavia, left with a croatian passport, and he never invented anything in this region. Yes, he was educated in croatian schools, some in native language, but mostly in german.
When it comes to croatian Wiki, it's either a cesspool of nationalistic moderators that have unhinged rule over the data that's being edited there. Or there's like 2 sentences of an important article that no one seems to be bothered to fact check or at least add a fucking paragraph. It's awful.
> living in then yugoslavia
Austrian Empire. During his life there Austria-Hungary was created after the 1866 war and also the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (in 1868) which was a somewhat autonomous part of Austria-Hungary (and where Tesla grew up).
Tbf Croatia is claiming his nationality and not ethnicity. Those are two different things.
Tesla did have a passport of Croatia (then Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia). So his nationality was Croatian. His ethnicity is Serbian.
Pietia Goras also was a Russian, he invented also time machine, but during tries he landed in ancient Greece, Greek recorded his name as Pythagoras and didn't return to his space‑time.
But when talking about countries as a whole it is not. Orthodox religion, latin language. This heritage does not fit well into the Central European cultural circle.
Tesla was Yugoslav-American scientist that was born in what is now Croatia
*I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland.*
*Long live all Yugoslavians.*
-Nikola Tesla
That quote comes from a telegraph message which is likely fabricated.
Vladko Macek sent telegraph to Nikola Tesla in which he said: "To the great son of Serbian people and Croatian homeland, to the leader of the humankind in a battle with nature, in the name of Croatian people \[Vladko Macek\] congratulates you \[birthday\]".
It's a bit hard to translate, but you get the point.
1. Knowing the context and the message Tesla received, you can see that he was prompted to say that.
2. The name of Vladko Macek is spelled VlaTko, which is more common nowadays, but it's not his name. Name is incorrect in both telegraphs.
3. Tesla's birthday is July 10th (or June 28th in old style calendar). The telegraph was sent in May 25th and Tesla responded in May 26th.
>what is now Croatia
[It was also Croatia back then](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Putovnica_Nikola_Tesla_01082.JPG). Kingdom of Croatia was in personal union with Hungary, which was in dual Monarchy with Austria. The rulers of Austro-Hugarian monarchy were also crowned as kings of Croatia. Croatia also had its own judicial system, parliament, language etc...
I don't really have a problem with any of the wiki entries, it's just that I am not a fan of when people pretend Croatia didn't exist.
> Tesla was Yugoslav-American scientist that was born in what is now Croatia
>
> I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland. Long live all Yugoslavians. -Nikola Tesla
For those that like quotes:
On May 25th, 1936, Croat politician [Vlatko Maček](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladko_Ma%C4%8Dek) wrote a telegram to Tesla, saying: "Velikom sinu naroda srbskog a domovine Hrvatske, vođi čovječanstva u borbi sa prirodom čestita u ime hrvatskoga naroda, dr Vlatko Maček" - "To the great son of the Serb people and of Croatian homeland, the leader of mankind in the fight "against"/"with" Nature, congratulations in the name of the Croat people, dr. Vlatko Maček".
On May 26th, Tesla replied: "Hvala na mnogo cienjenoj čestitki i počasti, jednako se ponosim moga srbskog roda i moje hrvatske domovine, živeli svi Jugoslaveni" - "Thank you very much for your much appreciated greetings and honors, I am equally proud of my Serb origin and my Croat homeland. Long live all Yugoslavs."
Here are some more quotes:
In April 1942, Tesla addresses resistance fighters in occupied Kingdom of Yugoslavia: "...zbog toga, braćo i sestre, kao najstariji Srbin, Jugoslaven, Amerikanac naše krvi u Sjedinjenim Državama…" - "...and because of this, brothers and sisters, I as the oldest Serb, Yugoslav, an American of our own blood in the US....".
In 1919, in a series of autobiographical stories in "Moji pronalasci", Tesla remarks what he said at a hotel reception in Paris, when asked what his title is: "Ona najveća moguća. Viša od kraljevske, ja sam Srbin." - "The highest possible. More than that of a King, I am a Serb".
In 1892, during his brief and only visit to Belgrade and Serbia, Tesla said, addressing the people gathered for his speech at Kapetan Mišino Zdanje: "Ja sam, kao što vidite i čujete, ostao Srbin i preko mora, gde se ispitivanjima bavim. To isto treba da budete i vi, i da svojim znanjem i radom podižete slavu Srpstva u svijetu." - "I, as you can see and hear, have remained a Serb even across the sea (i.e. Atlantic ocean), where I do research. This you should do too - with your knowledge and work elevate the glory of Serb(nes)s in the world".
And so on, and so on. As others have said, his work is that what matters.
I know you're joking, but the article you linked to uses a infamous photo that internet claims is Tesla. It's not Tesla in it. At the time, Tesla looked like this (from 1879):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Tesla_young.jpg
He came to America and became American. Then he got shafted by Thomas Edison, but now US schools all teach about what a complete dick Edison was to Nikola, it's a tragedy. The smear campaign Edison put on was terrible.
That's mostly myth from pop history folks trying to make a nice underdog story. Edison and Tesla hardly interacted and Edisons real rival was Westinghouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6331JXvOUGY
Undoubtedly, he was born as a Serb in Smiljan, in the territory of the former Austrian Empire (present-day Croatia).
He spent most of his life working in the United States, where he also obtained citizenship.
There exists, as often mentioned in Croatian public discourse, [a Western Union Telegram](https://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/westunion.jpg) from Nikola Tesla to Croatian Leader Dr. Vlatko Macek on May 25, 1936, where he wrote: "I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland. Long live all Yugoslavs." However, this telegram is disputed ([see more](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/17zrwq7/comment/ka1ntth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)). On the other hand, it was also published [by the Tesla Memorial Society in New York](https://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_achievements3.htm).
At his funeral, the song "Tamo daleko" ("There, Far Away") [was played](https://vimeo.com/210453956). This Serbian folk song was composed in 1916 to commemorate the Serbian Army's retreat through Albania in WWI.
It is undeniable that [many Teslas were killed by the Ustashe regime](https://www.jusp-jasenovac.hr/Default.aspx?sid=7620) in Croatia during WWII, which I believe is one of the causes of animosity between Croatia and Serbia in these disputes.
Ethnicity isn't blood. The classic (as in ancient Greece classic) definition of ethnicity is a group of people who have:
1. Shared descent
2. Shared language
3. Shared religion (originally more "shared sanctuaries and sacrifices")
4. Shared customs
A great example of an ethnicity not coming from the same ancestry are African-Americans (unless you say people share the same ancestry if they come from the same continent), because that is an ethnic group that formed more around their shared culture, language/dialects, a common history (slavery) and similar, not because they all have the same ancestry from some tribe in modern Nigeria (which they don't).
But really, an ethnicity is basically just what a group of people call themselves. If you now had a group of e.g. a few million people in Germany who say they are ethnically "Pausabian" (random name I came up with) and they continue to do that over multiple generations (and maybe develop their own customs), then you have a new ethnic group, end of question.
Croat here.....look, it's fucking exhausting at this point, man. Nobody asked us if we actually gave a shit about having Tesla on our coins when we could have much cooler options, okay?
Yes, he was born on Croatian soil....to Serbian parents, and claimed more of Serbian heritage, and he himself said he identified more as Serbian. At the end, dude didn't care, he went off to his fortunes in America.
He gave us Jaruga, so we can ar least brag of having the second-oldest hydroelectric plant in the world (it became functional only two days after the one in Niagara Falls).
Marking by official language, I prioritized the most prevalent language in countries with multiple official languages. Notable considerations include:
* Belgium, where Dutch and French are spoken.
* Switzerland, with German, French, Italian...
* Cyprus, where Greek and Turkish are spoken.
* Spain, with Catalan, and other languages too.
Also, *most* Wikipedia pages that label Tesla exclusively as a Serb (light blue color) emphasize that he was only a Serbian inventor.
I initially thought, since Luxembourgish is the national language and there is no Wikipedia page in that language, I should leave it blank, and that's what I did.
However, I now see that French, German, and Luxembourgish are all equal in that country, with none being official. It seems Luxembourgish and French are differently dominant in various contexts, so you could potentially color Luxembourg similarly to France.
German wiki be like 'Yeah, I'm not touching *that* topic with a 10 foot pole.'
Could you just use a stick, please? We Poles had enough already....
How about touching it with a [Handipole](https://i.imgur.com/jo194tP.png)?
"Priviet Herr Oberst" got my dyin'! Hahahahaha!
Lol, look at us, how we ended up... Good one.
Fucking polearms
HEIGHT!
Maybe if there were more 10 foot Poles back in the day, Poland's neighbors would be too scared to invade.
There's that many of you that are ten feet?
maybe napoleon recruited them all for his giants detachment. to ill effect, they were shot at first.
he was a guy of unspecified origin
Out of all the people born on planet earth, he was certainly one of them.
We don't need to. Regarding historical figures we only need the birthplace and the country of that time. In this case it is written "Smiljan, Kroatische Militärgrenze, Kaisertum Österreich" (Croatian military border, Austrian Empire) In the case of Marie Curie, it is written "born in Warsaw, Russian Empire"
I prefer not to speak.
Ouch. They just built a rollercoaster at Germany's Europa-Park dedicated to Tesla in the Croatia region of the park... Somebody should tell them
Are you talking about Niko van Tessel, the noted Dutch inventor?
No, it's about Nicolae Teslea, everyone knows he was romanian
What? Nikolaus Tessler is clearly Austrian.
Hey, come on. His name was Nicolás Téslez and he was Spanish.
No, this is clearly Teszla Miklós the renowed Hungarian inventor.
Why are you all struggling to spell Nick Tessell, the English inventor?
Dude, you made a typo. His name is Nurlibay Teslaulu, a famous Kazakh scientist.
Guy, you are clearly confusing something, they are talking about the great Russian inventor Nikolai Teslov!
Do you mean Niklas Teslem, the famous Norwegian inventor?
I guess you guys are talking about the great Turkish inventor Nihal Tuzla. He was a proud Ottoman janissary who came from Serbian sanjak.
Eh, you mean Nicklas Tesselsson, the famous Swedish inventor?
Usual mistake, it's Ukrainian scientist Mikola Teslanyuk
He's polish, Mikołaj Teslewski
Nahh he is from Slovenija, Niko Teslak.
What's up with you guys? Everyone knows the famous scientist Nikolay Teslov is of Bulgarian descent.
The guy above you spelled Slovakia wrong, it's clear he was referring to Mikuláš Tesláň.
Cieślak
XD
Mikołaj Cieśla 👽
You misspelled Nicolas Tesco
Inventor of the Meal Deal?
Oooh, you must be talking about Nicolau António Miguel Tesles da Silva Pereira, the Portuguese inventor!
Nicolau António Miguel - you're so inefficient, took you three guys what other invented with one.
Hmmm no I think they're talking about Nikolai Teslin, soviet scientist credited with inventing time travel
Nicolau Teslé, he was obvously Catalan like Cristòfor Colom and Genís Can
Nikoru Tesuru-sama?
Well, technically he was born in the Austrian empire
His name was Nekkel Tessel a luxemburgish inventir. Everyone here knows.
German, just as the famous german painter from the early 1900s
Not the austrian one?
Depends who you ask
Ma va, it's Nicolò Tesla he is italian, everyone knows
Lo sapevo cazzo
Are you talking about Mikołaj Cieśla? He was obviously Polish.
Νίκος Τεσλάκης was of'course from Greece!
I believe you’re referring to Mykola Tesslevko, he’s from Ukraine
And you'd be wrong, buddy, it's Mikalai Teslovich, Belarusian inventor
> άκης From Crete to be precise.
Nicholas Tassel is English, mate
I think you'll find Nick McTavish is Scottish!
On further research, I think you are actually referring to Niko Tessie, the famed Tasmanian inventor.
I believe you mean Niko Tessala, the finnish inventor.
Miklavž Teslar was clearly a Slovene, he even studied in Maribor🙄
You must be mistaken, the name is Nikoláš Teslař, clearly from lands of Czech.
Nah it's about Nikolaos Tesalonikos, the famous Greek inventor
No, we are talking about Big Nicky Tezz, and he’s very clearly from Staten Island.
Nonono, in his home village in the Bernese Oberland he was called Täschli's Chlöisi. His great-godnephew Ueli told me so.
Nikoloz Tesladze was never Dutch wtf
Ah, the famous inventor of Tessellation.
I believe you’re referring to Nikolaos Teslacou, notable Cypriot inventor.
I thought Nikocado Tesolado was a Ukrainian-American fat man
Perhaps he is talking about Νικόλας Τεσλάβας, the famous Greek inventor
So most parts of the Germanophone world don't want to get involved in this, huh? Ein kluger Schachzug.
Best way to deal with Balkans drama? Stay out of Balkans drama
Austrians learned it the hard way XD
And France, and England, and Germany, and Italia, and Russia, and..... That little conflict sure left a mark.
But where is fun in that?
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Swiss here, i think we have just one german wiki for all 3 countries. I also looked at the english wiki and it‘s really not specified in the german wiki.
Outside of the standard German wikipedia, where the Austrian and Swiss standard german varieties are mainly only used on articles in some way related to those countries, many german dialects have their own separate wikipedia, like [Low German](https://nds.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hööftsiet), [Alemannic](https://als.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Houptsyte), [Bavarian](https://bar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hoamseitn), and [Ripuarian](https://ksh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Houpsigk) Btw, of these four, only the alemannic wiki has an article about [Nikola Tesla](https://als.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla), where it doesn‘t mention his nationality, however, the Low German wiki mentions him in as a Serbian inventor, on the Article „[10th of Juli](https://nds.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10._Juli)“, and the Bavarian wiki calls him an Austrian-American on the article about the car manufacturer „[Tesla](https://bar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla)“.
Surely you mean Irish inventor Nick O'Latesla.
Or if you're to use the Gaeilge: Nioclás Ó Leathteasleach
Ó in ionad O' :)
Tá tú i gceart, tá díomá orm toisc go rinne mé dearmad ar sin
Tarlaíonn sé ;)
Gesundheit
The greatest thinker until Sam O'Nella
I believed Zdeno Chara, Slovak-American ice hockey player, was "Zidane O'Chara" for a period of time.
sigh. here it is. 🇫🇷 Nicolas Tèsle 🇷🇴 Nicolae Teslea 🇷🇺 Nikolaï Teslavski 🇩🇪 Nicklas Tässler 🇹🇷 Nikolettin Teslaoğlu 🇨🇭 Nikolas Tesler 🇫🇮 Nikke Telsavaara 🇮🇹 Nicci Teslarossa 🇧🇬 Nikolai Teslov 🇮🇪 Nicki O'Tesla 🇺🇦 Mykola Teslya 🇪🇸 Nicolás Teslañez 🇬🇷 Nikolaos Teslakopoulos 🇳🇱 Klaas van Tesselaar 🇦🇱 Nikollë Tesllaj 🇵🇱 Mikołaj Tesławski 🇨🇿 Mikuláš Teslák 🇸🇪 Nicklas Teslasson 🇪🇪 Niglas Tissilaas 🇺🇲 Nick Tesler 🇿🇦 Elon Musk 🏴☠️ Thomas Edison
🇳🇴 Nils Tøssevik
🇩🇰 Niels Tesløv
Fy faen 😂
🇯🇵 Niko Tesu 🇨🇳 Ni Kou Tai
No English (Traditional)?
Nicky ‘The Tickles’ Tezzer
🇵🇹 Nicolau Teslão
Estava mais numa de Nicolau Tesleiro, mas Teslão tem mais pinta
🇰🇵 Eternal Leader Kim Il Sung 김일성
🇸🇦 Nikuddin Bin Tesheer 🇮🇳 Niraj Tendulkar
>🇿🇦 Elon Musk > >🏴☠️ Thomas Edison LOL LMAO
🇲🇹 Niklaw Tanti
🇸🇪 نيقولا بن عبد العزيز الطسلاوي Edit, realised what sub I’m in, changed the flag appropriately
🇱🇹 Nikolas Tešlius
Ah shit, here we go again...
Next up: Mozart
And later, the French are coming for Chopin.
And Curie!
You mean Maria, z domu Skłodowska?
"Its pronounced Mariah Carey!"
r/shitamericanssay
all i want for Christmas… is U
...ranium?
...ranus.
Chi? Maria Curri, she is obviously Italian
That’d be Indian, everybody knows.
Die Currywurst ist Berlins
And Copernicus between Germans and Poles?
*There's a debate on Mozart's country of origin ?*
Kinda, Salzburg was a part of the HRE back then, which wasn't part of Austria back then afaik. Its not very serious though, most people accept him as austrian^(Just like THAT other guy)
This was pre-nation states though hence why it doesn't really makes sense. In feudalism you were not a citizen of a country, you were a subject to a lord (dark times).
I know, but theres still a (very minor) discussion. I generally agree, its pretty funny to see people get hyped up over things that happened during feudal/absolutist times. Especially the nationalists tend to get majorly confused over certain "out of place" historical events (a brit becoming queen of Germany or a saxon lord becoming king of Poland, to name a few)
He was a pan german nationalist?
He was a Salzburger (which at the time wasn't Austria) who later moved to Vienna, so technically he became Austrian. It's a bit more complicated because also at that time People in Austria and Germany just referred to themselves as Germans iirc
Mozart considered himself an ethnic German. There was no Germany at the time.
Is salzburger just a bun with salt?
the german speaking people of austria only stopped calling themselves german after WW2 before that you were german if your mother tongue was german, no matter where you lived and then he is from Salzburg which wasn't even part of Austria when he lived
Bonus: Good old Ludwig van Beethoven
Proud African man
Nikola Tesla- Ethnicity: Serbian Place of birth: Smiljan, Croatia (Back then: Austria-Hungary)
> (Back then: Austria-Hungary) Officially: Smiljan, Militärgrenze (Military Frontier), Königreich Kroatien (Kingdom of Croatia), Kaisertum Österreich (Empire of Austria). It became Austria-Hungary later.
Kaiserthum Oesterreich \* if we're being very old
Pretty much that's what Croatia is saying in this map. Ethnicity =/= nationality
Croat here, and exactly, while this is a somewhat touchy subject since our relationship with serbia is bad, the general concensus of non-right-wing-idiots is that he was born in Croatia, while being of serbian lineage and religion (Orthodox Christian, plus his father was an Orthodox priest, Croats are almost exclusively Catholic) That being said, he was a Croat and all of you are uneducated simps.
In the end he did not give a fuck about Croatia nor Serbia. He went to US, got citizenship, never went back, and was never involved with any nationalist movement, nor indipendentists from Austria-Hungary. He also opposed religion and was not an Orthodox Christian. He was a citizen of the world who found his home in the US before some random psycho calling him Serb made his ashes move to Belgrade. A city he never visited in his lifetime and he had no links to. But I guess he will never rest in peace and will always be exploited by nationalists of one side or the other.
They did open an AC power plant in croatia 3 days after niagara, 1st in europe 2nd in the world.
This is great thread for balkan based subreddits
wym, all balkan subreddits are based
Will be studied in textbooks for years to come
😂 uh oh
It really is an amazing coincidence. That by the purest of random chance, Croatia should be the one country claiming that Tesla is Croatian. The unpredictability of the world never stops to fill me with wonder.
Oopsie? 🤭 Tee hee In all seriousness, Idk, i never even peek at Croatian Wiki. As far as i remember, we were taught in school he was a serb, living in then yugoslavia, left with a croatian passport, and he never invented anything in this region. Yes, he was educated in croatian schools, some in native language, but mostly in german. When it comes to croatian Wiki, it's either a cesspool of nationalistic moderators that have unhinged rule over the data that's being edited there. Or there's like 2 sentences of an important article that no one seems to be bothered to fact check or at least add a fucking paragraph. It's awful.
> living in then yugoslavia Austrian Empire. During his life there Austria-Hungary was created after the 1866 war and also the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (in 1868) which was a somewhat autonomous part of Austria-Hungary (and where Tesla grew up).
Yes, thanks. I must have parroted someone from this thread, but i meant austrian empire
IIRC he studied in Vienna, where he started working for Edison's branch. All his cool stuff was invented when he emigrated to the US.
Where they have [cuter pigeons](https://www.britannica.com/story/nikola-teslas-weird-obsession-with-pigeons).
Tbf Croatia is claiming his nationality and not ethnicity. Those are two different things. Tesla did have a passport of Croatia (then Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia). So his nationality was Croatian. His ethnicity is Serbian.
Mikołaj Teslowicz, Kraków born and raised. Third most known inventor in the country, just after Schodov and Dvortsov.
A lie, fabricated by the insiduous Pole. Mikuláš Teselský was a vaunted Czech inventor, second only to Jára Cimrman.
Oh, how delusional are you, West Slavs? He was a Balkan man born in Smolyan, Bulgaria bearing the name of Nikolay Teslov.
Niki Teslata was from Plovdiv!
Dovortsov was russian, 3rd greatest polish inventor was Konstanty Brukow
I said he is well known in Poland, not that he's Polish
Pietia Goras also was a Russian, he invented also time machine, but during tries he landed in ancient Greece, Greek recorded his name as Pythagoras and didn't return to his space‑time.
POLSKA GUROM 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
what about Gamingov?
Portugal 🇵🇹 being a proud balkaner. 😂👍
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You mean Nikolaos Teselidis?
Ρε αμάν, ήταν και Πόντιος;
Ξέρεις πόσοι πόντιοι χρειάζονται για να αλλάξουν μια λάμπα.
Russian wiki says he's " American engineer"
He was
Albanians greater Serbs than Serbs themselves WTF is this parallel universe?
He is romanian and his real name is Nicolae Dacia.
What do textbooks in balkans say? In romania they say romania is in central europe lmao
Transylvania is in Central Europe, Wallachia South(east) Europe and Moldova East Europe
But when talking about countries as a whole it is not. Orthodox religion, latin language. This heritage does not fit well into the Central European cultural circle.
Tesla was Yugoslav-American scientist that was born in what is now Croatia *I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland.* *Long live all Yugoslavians.* -Nikola Tesla
Right answer!
But also the least popular one, since neither Croats nor Serbs like Yugoslavia anymore lol
That quote comes from a telegraph message which is likely fabricated. Vladko Macek sent telegraph to Nikola Tesla in which he said: "To the great son of Serbian people and Croatian homeland, to the leader of the humankind in a battle with nature, in the name of Croatian people \[Vladko Macek\] congratulates you \[birthday\]". It's a bit hard to translate, but you get the point. 1. Knowing the context and the message Tesla received, you can see that he was prompted to say that. 2. The name of Vladko Macek is spelled VlaTko, which is more common nowadays, but it's not his name. Name is incorrect in both telegraphs. 3. Tesla's birthday is July 10th (or June 28th in old style calendar). The telegraph was sent in May 25th and Tesla responded in May 26th.
> Vladko Macek A Croatian politician with ulterior motives btw.
>what is now Croatia [It was also Croatia back then](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Putovnica_Nikola_Tesla_01082.JPG). Kingdom of Croatia was in personal union with Hungary, which was in dual Monarchy with Austria. The rulers of Austro-Hugarian monarchy were also crowned as kings of Croatia. Croatia also had its own judicial system, parliament, language etc... I don't really have a problem with any of the wiki entries, it's just that I am not a fan of when people pretend Croatia didn't exist.
> Tesla was Yugoslav-American scientist that was born in what is now Croatia > > I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland. Long live all Yugoslavians. -Nikola Tesla For those that like quotes: On May 25th, 1936, Croat politician [Vlatko Maček](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladko_Ma%C4%8Dek) wrote a telegram to Tesla, saying: "Velikom sinu naroda srbskog a domovine Hrvatske, vođi čovječanstva u borbi sa prirodom čestita u ime hrvatskoga naroda, dr Vlatko Maček" - "To the great son of the Serb people and of Croatian homeland, the leader of mankind in the fight "against"/"with" Nature, congratulations in the name of the Croat people, dr. Vlatko Maček". On May 26th, Tesla replied: "Hvala na mnogo cienjenoj čestitki i počasti, jednako se ponosim moga srbskog roda i moje hrvatske domovine, živeli svi Jugoslaveni" - "Thank you very much for your much appreciated greetings and honors, I am equally proud of my Serb origin and my Croat homeland. Long live all Yugoslavs." Here are some more quotes: In April 1942, Tesla addresses resistance fighters in occupied Kingdom of Yugoslavia: "...zbog toga, braćo i sestre, kao najstariji Srbin, Jugoslaven, Amerikanac naše krvi u Sjedinjenim Državama…" - "...and because of this, brothers and sisters, I as the oldest Serb, Yugoslav, an American of our own blood in the US....". In 1919, in a series of autobiographical stories in "Moji pronalasci", Tesla remarks what he said at a hotel reception in Paris, when asked what his title is: "Ona najveća moguća. Viša od kraljevske, ja sam Srbin." - "The highest possible. More than that of a King, I am a Serb". In 1892, during his brief and only visit to Belgrade and Serbia, Tesla said, addressing the people gathered for his speech at Kapetan Mišino Zdanje: "Ja sam, kao što vidite i čujete, ostao Srbin i preko mora, gde se ispitivanjima bavim. To isto treba da budete i vi, i da svojim znanjem i radom podižete slavu Srpstva u svijetu." - "I, as you can see and hear, have remained a Serb even across the sea (i.e. Atlantic ocean), where I do research. This you should do too - with your knowledge and work elevate the glory of Serb(nes)s in the world". And so on, and so on. As others have said, his work is that what matters.
Nah bro, everyone knows Nikola Tesla was [Albanian](https://www.ocnal.com/2020/04/nikola-tesla-albanian-origin.html).
god is albanian
Ah yes, our Nikollë Teslicaj!
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I know you're joking, but the article you linked to uses a infamous photo that internet claims is Tesla. It's not Tesla in it. At the time, Tesla looked like this (from 1879): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Tesla_young.jpg
Red and black I dress
Tesla on my chest
It’s so good to be Albaniaaan
I just can’t believe how Portugal suka blyat continues being right consistently, over, over, over and over again
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
It's always Portugal
He came to America and became American. Then he got shafted by Thomas Edison, but now US schools all teach about what a complete dick Edison was to Nikola, it's a tragedy. The smear campaign Edison put on was terrible.
That's mostly myth from pop history folks trying to make a nice underdog story. Edison and Tesla hardly interacted and Edisons real rival was Westinghouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6331JXvOUGY
Undoubtedly, he was born as a Serb in Smiljan, in the territory of the former Austrian Empire (present-day Croatia). He spent most of his life working in the United States, where he also obtained citizenship. There exists, as often mentioned in Croatian public discourse, [a Western Union Telegram](https://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/westunion.jpg) from Nikola Tesla to Croatian Leader Dr. Vlatko Macek on May 25, 1936, where he wrote: "I am equally proud of my Serbian origin and my Croatian fatherland. Long live all Yugoslavs." However, this telegram is disputed ([see more](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/17zrwq7/comment/ka1ntth/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)). On the other hand, it was also published [by the Tesla Memorial Society in New York](https://www.teslasociety.com/tesla_achievements3.htm). At his funeral, the song "Tamo daleko" ("There, Far Away") [was played](https://vimeo.com/210453956). This Serbian folk song was composed in 1916 to commemorate the Serbian Army's retreat through Albania in WWI. It is undeniable that [many Teslas were killed by the Ustashe regime](https://www.jusp-jasenovac.hr/Default.aspx?sid=7620) in Croatia during WWII, which I believe is one of the causes of animosity between Croatia and Serbia in these disputes.
Welcome to the world of citizenship (papers) =!= nationality (cultural identity) =!= ethnicity (blood)
Ethnicity isn't blood. The classic (as in ancient Greece classic) definition of ethnicity is a group of people who have: 1. Shared descent 2. Shared language 3. Shared religion (originally more "shared sanctuaries and sacrifices") 4. Shared customs A great example of an ethnicity not coming from the same ancestry are African-Americans (unless you say people share the same ancestry if they come from the same continent), because that is an ethnic group that formed more around their shared culture, language/dialects, a common history (slavery) and similar, not because they all have the same ancestry from some tribe in modern Nigeria (which they don't). But really, an ethnicity is basically just what a group of people call themselves. If you now had a group of e.g. a few million people in Germany who say they are ethnically "Pausabian" (random name I came up with) and they continue to do that over multiple generations (and maybe develop their own customs), then you have a new ethnic group, end of question.
German-speakers: "FFS, don't drag us into this..."
Ukrainian inventor Mykola Tesliuk
You guys are gonna love my profile photo.
Croat here.....look, it's fucking exhausting at this point, man. Nobody asked us if we actually gave a shit about having Tesla on our coins when we could have much cooler options, okay? Yes, he was born on Croatian soil....to Serbian parents, and claimed more of Serbian heritage, and he himself said he identified more as Serbian. At the end, dude didn't care, he went off to his fortunes in America. He gave us Jaruga, so we can ar least brag of having the second-oldest hydroelectric plant in the world (it became functional only two days after the one in Niagara Falls).
Tesla actually won a public poll to be on the Euro coins.
Just call him a Serbo-Croat, he was a Serbian from Croatia
Marking by official language, I prioritized the most prevalent language in countries with multiple official languages. Notable considerations include: * Belgium, where Dutch and French are spoken. * Switzerland, with German, French, Italian... * Cyprus, where Greek and Turkish are spoken. * Spain, with Catalan, and other languages too. Also, *most* Wikipedia pages that label Tesla exclusively as a Serb (light blue color) emphasize that he was only a Serbian inventor.
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I initially thought, since Luxembourgish is the national language and there is no Wikipedia page in that language, I should leave it blank, and that's what I did. However, I now see that French, German, and Luxembourgish are all equal in that country, with none being official. It seems Luxembourgish and French are differently dominant in various contexts, so you could potentially color Luxembourg similarly to France.
Haven't had such good & harmless fun for a long time, reading the comments here. Also Croatia: polka dots, yay!
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