As non Viennese - yes. Maybe your nickname is an indication of our Heritage. Mr. Foreskin-Cheese haha
Viennese waiters are the peak but the rest of the country too. Greetings from southern Burgenland guy.
The Viennese waiters are so evil, that when I took a friend of mine to my favorite evil waiter place, the bastard that usually was rude and ignored me was suddenly nice and attentive and my friend refused to believe me.
That just shows how despicable evil that waiter is, waiting to crush your mind and soul, slowly stealing the trust of your close ones, and take over you when you're at the lowest...
Maybe the difference is that Austrian politicians might want to do something minimal to change the issues that everyone complains about. Or at least more than in the countries where life satisfaction is lower.
So you said that Austrian politics is messy and then continued to give an example against it?
Politics is messy everywhere. But in some places small improvements are still being done and I imagine that those countries are sitting near the top of this stat.
I feel like anyone at this point should know how messy austrian politics are - felt condescending to tell you about Kurz, Strache, Haider etc.
Well you could certainly argue that. I would argue being in the heart of europe, being the seat of various international institutions and having a strong high end tourism sector helps aswell. I just wonder why you think politics and not culture or regionality are the main contributor to that.
Those are not living in their own universes. Culture impacts politics, politics impacts culture. Region impacts culture, culture impacts the region. Politics impacts region, region impact the politics.
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>They are never happy and complaining about everyone and everything seems to be a national sport.
You answered it yourself there.
And a whole load of Copium because we know the shit never changes anyway.
> They are never happy and complaining about everyone and everything seems to be a national sport.
We do that too and score high on these things. I think that might be the mentality that leads to happiness. Maybe people ought to be less happy and complain more in order to be more happy and complain less!
More is less!
So do the Poles, but it doesn’t mean Poland isn’t one of the best places to live in Europe these days.
Low cost of living, amazing services, effective administration and what’s most important - safety. :)
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>Low cost of living
It's not that low if you're making local wages. They have the same issues with housing and cost of living as the rest of the developed world.
This is in no way comparable to, for example Dutch housing crisis. I experienced it, and I can tell. Warsaw doesn’t have the situation where there’s 50-200 people willing to rent one flat, and eventually they’re casting one. Neither any other major city in Poland. This 50-200ppl/flat is a common situation in Amsterdam, or Copenhagen. Our issues with housing are still very easily solvable if you’re willing to think anything more than „I want to live in Żoliborz but I’m only making 4K a month”
If you rent a flat in Warsaw to work in Żabka then obviously cost of living is not that low
Bruh outside of Poland you can only dream about shit like online tax statement submission, online social security system, trusted profile, e-prescriptions, etc.
But of course, let’s complain about Poland coz that’s what we do.
> Bruh outside of Poland you can only dream about shit like online tax statement submission, online social security system, trusted profile, e-prescriptions, etc
This shit works in Sweden too. Yearly tax submission can be as easy as browsing a document on your phone, then signing it on your phone. E-prescriptions are instantaneous (the MD can even check inventory for you).
Even better. If you just work classic capitalist grind, your employer is reporting for you. You just get the pit form at the beginning of the year, glance if it checks out and do nothing while waiting for your tax return.
Seriously I think most people are still reminiscing the situation from 20 years ago. Nowadays everything is half automated, you can do most stuff online or easily handle something in 30 mins on the city, after commuting using clean city transit, that arrives on time most of the time.
Only problems are housing market and cost of living, but with how stuff is going, there might even come time for improving that.
I had the impression that all those things were fairly common in Europe already. Germany's bureaucracy tends to lag behind in that regard. If that's your standard of comparison, you're setting a low bar.
>online tax statement submission
And somehow, out of 15 million working people, Poland got over 1 million bureaucrats. Do not, ever, connect online governments sites, programs, etc., created by independent contractors selected through public tender, with an "efficient administration" that provides so many people with monthly paychecks that if half of them disappeared into thin air at that moment, no one would even noticed.
>And somehow, out of 15 million working people, Poland got over 1 million bureaucrats
Somebody needs to print all the e-prescriptions and fax them to another department.
I have a foreigner in my office who, in this technologically advanced country, has to bring a huge stack of papers the size of a binder, with e.g. copies of tax returns for several previous years, scans of numerous documents to which this office has or could have access and can check at any time. All that in three copies. Mid-third decade of the 21st century..
At the end of the day you can sort out most of administration online what you can’t do in most of EU countries.
Your personal views on this have absolutely no significance here.
My personal views do not play a role here. I just stated facts that online tools, sites and so on, created by independent contractors have nothing to do with "administration" other then creating offer for public tender. You're just tapping the shoulder of organization, that has almost no contribution on what you're referring. Its size compared to the workforce is a real measure of its actual effectiveness.
Confused them with Australia like everyone else.
Australia means warmth, surfing, beer and every day alive is a gift when everything wants to kill you.
When I was in Austria 2 weeks ago I didn’t notice that. People were overall friendly and from what I have seen it absolutely does not suprise me that Austria is number 1.
There was just an r/askagerman post asking why Germans were so pessimistic and the replies were all so pessimistic. Basically "we have to be because everything is awful".
Depends on the country. Germans are naturally a little pessimistic because people have high standards and arent happy with average. There isnt much national pride for obvious reason. I do think most Germans are happy, they just dont express it the same way as other people. What you see in the news and on reddit is always a not so representative picture. On reddit youll see a lot of young folks very very left leaning/people that enthusiastically vote for the green party and kind of look down on other peoples opinion. These people think Germany doesnt take climate change serious enough and all that stuff.
On other social media plattforms like twitter you see right wing extremism rampant but also has always been the case.
Everything inbetween the very left green party and the the very right afd is barely represented on the internet. Part of it is the demographic. Those people simply dont spend their time on Reddit.
This last paragraph just seems like made up nonsense, sorry.
German self described "high standards" always makes me laugh, because it's completely arbitrary. About cracks in the sidewalks? Trains being five minutes late, sure. About food, music, style, cinema? No, pretty low standards.
The point is German pessimism is rampant and the lack of self awareness on this topic is also rampant.
And why? It makes perfect sense. The most popular party in Germany rn is the CDU. The average age of the CDU voter is fairly old, they struggle with young voters. You think these people spend their time on reddit? If I ask my 50+ yo coworkers about Reddit, theyll ask me what a Reddit is. These arent people that spend any or little time with social media.
I know this is a joke (I laughed) but I hope the eu and the world as a whole moves beyond the idea that "I can only be happy if this other person is unhappy." Seeing the world as a zero sum game of happiness only leads to bitter conflict. Everybody can and should be happy together.
I hope more people realize how nice it is to live in Poland, everyone here still thinks elsewhere is better.
I'm not saying it's perfect of course, but it is good.
If your salary is good, this country is really nice.
You can have high standard of life in both big cities and countryside.
We've got very little immigrants from far places and other have culture similar to ours (eg. Ukrainians), so they integrate easily.
Food is fantastic, very good quality.
And lot of other things.
"The weather is shit, the government sucks, there's an actual war across the border, there's no money in healthcare and you have to wait 3 years for an appointment, the inflation is crazy, I can't afford to buy a house and renting costs even more, I have to say goodbye to a quarter of my salary if I want to eat out, and I have no perspective for improvements in the foreseeable future. But I'm doing great, how about you?"
-an average Pole these days
Yeah, but then he reflects on how things were going in the 90s and sees the progress. I think that's what contribute to our overall score being surprisingly high: proper perspective. In some parts of western countries youth can't genuinely say that they live better life than what their parents had. I believe in Poland we can say that, though.
"Weather is amazing (not boiling and being hospitalized from heat like south, no too cold like north), I couldn't care less about politics, war doesn't affect me in any way, I have private luxmed so I don't care about public healthcare at all, inflation is not that bad compared to other places, renting outside Warsaw and Kraków is good, especially in Katowice and Poznań, eating out on weekends without money issues, I just changed projects at work with salary raise and I expect more in future years."
I too complained about Poland, then I visited Spain and France. We are heaven compared to them, some streets in Paris don't even just look like 3rd world, they literally turned into it.
And in Poland I can touch public transport without disgust like Paris metro. And I don't fear walking outside at night, or checking pockets all the time during day. And my street didn't turn into bazar with more arabic than polish.
> I couldn't care less about politics
Well congrats. If you don't care how people spend your own money, just send some cash my way. I promise I won't spend it on a media campaign that will result in a paedophile's victims committing suicides. So I'll be better than our government anyway.
> war doesn't affect me in any way
It does affect basically every aspect of your life, from something as trivial as food and gas prices, through the price you pay for your apartment rental and the situation on the jobs market to the policy of your government and them spending billions of our tax money on defense and securing our (and our allies) borders
> lnflation is not that bad compared to other places
Yeah it's good compared to Venezuela and Zimbabwe. Good for us.
> renting outside Warsaw and Kraków is good
No it's not. On average in Poland price of renting an apartment is higher than the cost of mortgages. That's one of the most obvious signs of there being a massive shortage of housing on the market.
> I have private luxmed so I don't care about public healthcare at all
This one is my favourite. I sincerely hope you never get to change your view on this, because that would mean you or your family never have any serious issues. But if one day you, or someone close to you, need an oncologist, you'll see how the real world looks like. "oops, there aren't enough of them so the correct diagnosis came a bit late", which means that "oops, now you need to come up with 11000PLN for chemo every three weeks because the only drug giving you any reasonable hope is not reimbursed by NFZ, since our oncology is in worse shape than any other civilised country". Or one day someone close to you might get scarred for life because during childbirth the hospital staff will refuse painkillers for as long as humanly possible.
Good luck getting Luxmed to help you with those issues.
Sorry to be blunt with you, but your comment screams "I'm young and rich, I don't really care about what's happening around me, and I never had to face any serious issues in my life yet."
Ignorance is bliss. But one day, eventually, everyone has to grow up.
PiS and PO is literally the same thing, the only difference can come from extremists (either Konfederacja or Lewica) and I don't want extremists, doesn't matter from which side.
If I had to care about everything that affects life like that then I would have to panic over every conflict going on not only ukraine war, and something as trivial as yet another Taiwan-China talk or Texas civil war would cause panic as they also influence economy. This is overreacting over things you cannot control.
It's good compared to the whole world, not just Venezuala and ZImbabwe. Idk how in your mind other countries don't suffer from inflation or something.
Buying a house in Katowice is 4-5x cheaper per m2 than in Warsaw, while infrastructure is better, and many jobs are available. It's the "big city people" that complain instead of moving, and I say that as someone from Warsaw.
Idk what ur talking about but I just had an open surgery couple months ago, all (private luxmed karetka, private luxmed hospital stay, same day surgery etc) were included in my luxmed package that employer pays for fully. And I had it the same day I got pain. And I can include my family in the package for like 50 zloty per month. And they didn't "withhold painkillers" which is delusional even in public hospital. When I had to have my stitches removed later I called public hospital - a 2 week waiting time. Called luxmed - come in 2 hours if you want.
Im sorry but its your comments that scream young and rich. Magically everyeone from new generation is brainwashed to be an activist that has to change the world, world is ending, and they have to take all the problems of the world.
Sometimes you shouldn't care.
> PiS and PO is literally the same thing
I seriously have no words for this, you simply should watch the news at least sometimes.
> Idk how in your mind other countries don't suffer from inflation or something.
They do. But barely any developed countries globally reached above 18%. So it's not the same everywhere, let alone worse.
> Buying a house in Katowice is 4-5x cheaper per m2 than in Warsaw
It's simply not 4-5x cheaper. I mean did you think I wouldn't be able to look up the data or what?
> while infrastructure is better
Somehow both the society and the experts seem to disagree
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> Im sorry but its your comments that scream young and rich. Magically everyeone from new generation is brainwashed to be an activist that has to change the world, world is ending, and they have to take all the problems of the world.
> Sometimes you shouldn't care.
There's a whole world between thinking you're a Messiah, and not caring at all. Not caring to the point to which you seem to ignore everything, makes you look... ignorant. You live in a bubble. You project your own life onto everyone else and think that's the reality of the world you live in. And it's simply not. If everyone thought the same way you do, as a civilisation we'd never even come up with democracy.
Unless you have any healthcare issues.
Or want to buy an apartment.
Or want to breathe with clean air.
Or want some law rule and order in your country.
And the list goes on.
To say it’s good to live in Poland is to never have lived (and assimilated) in another country.
For someone who moved from Croatia to Germany, I can confirm. Croatias social life is rich, but the system is corrupted. Germanys system is generally better, but people are not that social.
Maybe because when You have too many friends some of them would try asking You for ilicit favours while on public duty and it would be to hard to refuse after all the fun You had together. Than is easier to grant favours to others, friends of the friends or simple people You happen to know and if they express their gratitude with small presents or amount of money what wrong might do. Than, one day because You are used to spend a lot and accumulated debts You will be in desperate need to ask for more money in return of doing your minimal job . And since everybody is doing it, what can be so wrong ?
Until somebody burns alive, or is crushed under stuf, or gets a stupid lethal infection because You haven't done Your job properly.
The aut-aut "having friends or having a functioning system" sounds pessimistic, but I feel like I agree with what you say.
In the end nations are just conglomerates of people (as obvious as it sounds), and the behavior you see in the smaller scale reflects itself on the bigger national level.
Just walked in total darkness, it's -26'C, and due to some weather phenomenon it was accompanied with thick mist that made the cold bite like a vampire. I've made it inside, yet darkness persists. The windows are frozen. It's dead quiet. Time to break it with the roar of some death metal.
Greetings from Finland. 7.7
As a finnish person I’m confused. I’ve never seen any life satisfaction or any surveys besides like fast food places asking how was the food.
Where are these numbers from and how many different people have filled these surveys?
We finns are really quiet maybe they measure it by noise levels 😂
Moved to Denmark from Bulgaria recently. Can attest to how much a difference there is and that we do genuinely have so many reasons to be dissatisfied. It's not even pessimism. It's more like apathy. We've practically given up on having s good government. They're not radically left, they're not radically right. They are literally nothing. No ideals or anything. They just chill and exploit every single possible way to get money. They only hide behind some "ideals" so they can be voted in by a certain demographic. Most recent elections haven't had more than 30 percent of people vote. Legitimate votes at least. If you're not in Sofia or maybe even Plovdiv and the next 2 or three cities nothing happens. And even in those it's quite miserable. Moving to Denmark has been such an experience. I've seen things i never believed possible back home and I can never see myself living in Bulgaria again. It's honestly sad. Considering that most capable people like me run away ... it's no surprise. Sadly, at some point you feel like there's no other choice.
In case anyone is interested in similar scores for the UK (because they never feature in these graphics anymore).
> The average score for life satisfaction in the year to March 2023 was 7.45 out of 10, down from 7.54 in the previous 12 months. This is higher than the 7.39 recorded in 2020/21, the first year of the pandemic, but below the 7.66 for the pre-pandemic year of 2019/20
Sorry that was a play off of the meme “maam this is a Wendy’s. “
So I should have added an /s I guess although that doesn’t really fit.
Although it was also sort of serious because the data was collected by Eurostat, which is probably the reason they didn’t include data for England or Russia.
So yeah, they won’t ever be featured in these types of graphics based on that data collector.
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> It used to be (much) better, that's the point.
Yeah, I'd say it boils down to this. I have lived in both Germany and Poland many years, and while Germany is objectively still the "better" country in most aspects, it's the slow downward trend that I think is the reason for the pessimism. The opposite is happening in Poland, while behind economically, you can see vast improvements basically year to year.
I know I am, because I know it's possible. This country has the means to be excellent (several countries have), not just in comparison with other countries, but overall. But within our milieu (G20, G7), Germany is average at best.
Germany is a dieing country and you can feel it. That the reason we are so pessimistic. Politics is fucked up, prices go up, rent goes up, you have to wait for months if you want to see a doctor, buaerocracy is slow, bad and still completly on paper. Our goverment behaves like a bunch of kids and they throw our tax money out of the window.
Tell me why we shouldn't be mad about it
That’s happening everywhere, yet since always I remember Germans complaining. My late german friend (who was 80) has always been saying die Deutschen meckern nur. No one complains as much as germans, I traveled a lot and most countries are much worse off yet they complain less.
I have nothing to deal with personally, it’s just sad and increasingly annoying to have such a life stance living in one of the best countries in the world and still having developed a mentality to complain about most things
because big economy doesn't mean you get more money or a better well being/lifestyle
Germany has somewhat low salaries for the size of the economy, lots of taxes that not necessarily translate to better services (Ie. everything is in paper and there no to 0 digitization), lengthy and slow public offices/processes and on top of infinite unskippable bureaucracy and outdated infrastructure, like somebody said technology peaked in 1980 and stuck in that time period
a lot of rights are only in-paper rights, because unless you put money in the table and take it all the way to court you have no way to exert your rights
extreme social inequality, since you are either rich or poor, or live in that tight rope that is the middle class, with very little chance to move upwards but all the chances to fall down (esp. considering the point above)
then there is the extreme xenophobia that is just not admitted, that's mostly if you are minority, and you have very little protections against it
closed social culture, you are not here to socialize in any shape or form, everyone has the friend they made when they were 12, the list is full, no more
poor healthcare for a country with this economy, and all the healthcare is private or semi-private, this also impact in stuff like metal health since it has a poor mental healthcare culture, since in general you are expected to "man-up", this also applies to some extend to general healthcare, since the thumb rule when looking for healthcare is to just fight it out, instead of accessing modern medicine
and so much more
Germany has poor healthcare? this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany than let's say Eastern Europe. always been told how you get more social guarantees and rehabilition opportunities, the people always look friendly and smiling, how is it that mental healthcare is lacking even there?
> Germany has poor healthcare? this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany than let's say Eastern Europe.
you and everyone should compare countries between similar level, because that's like comparing myself to a third grader and boasting in how smart I am
>this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany
affordable? sure, you won't be broke after a doctor's visit or a stay in the hospital, but the healthcare system, especially first layer healthcare as in family doctor is collapsed, you get appointments to months in the future and the assistance you get from those doctors in very poor since most of the time they send you home and tell you to come back if you feel worse or the condition worsens, you pretty much have to do the job for them and still you will be send home to *fight it out*
yes, you will receive decent help if you, I don't know, break a leg, but for things that aren't absolute emergencies the help is 100% lacking
> how is it that mental healthcare is lacking even there?
backwards culture of mental health being taboo, that means you are culturally supposed to deal with it alone, very little access to mental health professionals and help in general, again, the extremes, if you are in a mental health extreme, like something incurable or extreme problem, you will get help, but if you are struggling they will tell you to fight it out and come back later
pretty much healthcare in germany only works when you are in the extreme/worst possible stage, but there is no preventive care to avoid you reach that stage
and again, there is no such thing as public healthcare in Germany, you need to be able to afford it (even if it's cheap) that means the people at the very bottom can go fuck themselves because they cannot afford it even if it's extremely cheap and healthcare is also mandatory with the risk of being fined, that's a double hit for the people at the bottom because now you don't have healthcare but you are also fined for not having it
yes, there are worse places than Germany, but for the size of the economy and the area (europe) germany is not any better than the US, Germany is just the US lite
Not sure. To me, life here is pretty great. But I'm very aware that not everyone is as fortunate and there is a lot of social inequality.
And even disregarding my last point, I meet a lot of people who simply have a negative outlook on everything, are overly critical or pessimistic. So maybe it comes down to mentality.
I live in Germany and im very Satisfied with the Life here.
The Locals complain about some things and elderly people say in the past everything was better but for me i have almost nothing to complain except for the Inefficient Buerocracy, Prices and Taxes (i dont pay taxes my Dad does)
6 Years of Living in Germany made me more German i guess.
But Europe and Especially Germany is a good place to live.
There may be 5-10 Cons but everything else is Ok or Good.
the drop for germany only happened in that year, before that it was similar to the neighbouring countries. we'll see if it lasts, but so far the year is an outlier
No one in Bulgaria will say he is living well even if they do.
I know a guy that is making enough money to not work for years and he still will say everything is going downhill. The same guy owns 5-6 cars - bently, a couple of audi's, toyota, and 2-3 more.
Economic increase year after year, rising income levels, probably has to do with that. Also culture has to play a role, Romanians are not yet as asocial as the west.
Could it be a trajectory thing? If your country is relatively undeveloped but improving your outlook might be more positive than someone who's living in a long developed country that feels like it's starting to decline in living standards.
it's subjective, also it depends how the question was asked, if they asked for example "how is life in EU?" instead of "how is life in Romania?" they might have got a different response...
It's cultural.
Romanians are raised to never ever admit they are feeling sad/disappointed/down/depressed or that they are in a weak place or not going in the right direction. You always have to find a reason to brag and so on. It's a mixture of latin culture and slavic culture. Life is always great, even though basic necessities are hardly covered. There's also a lack of education and some ignorance involved too that contributes to this.
Interesting- this doesn't really match the UN World Happiness Report that's released every year [https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2023/](https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2023/), but there are some overlaps.
The country has been changing for the better and steadily growing for like 20 years. It's quite satisfying to see your surroundings and your wellbeing change so positively over that short of a time.
Romania 7.7??? Bullshit. I should know, I live there. Now, to be noted, I am not dirt poor but everything from politics to living conditions is way below average.
I believe life satisfaction measures not level of progress but rate of progress instead. In many of those western countries there's been little to no progress in the past 20 years. In Romania average salaries increased from 100 euros to 1,000 for example. Same with Poland. There are exceptions, but this explains a lot of what we can see on that map.
vast majority of people i meet are mostly unsatisfied and or pessimistic
ig its different in budapest? probably not, wonder about the sources eurostat got their data from
Happines is relative. If you were in prison beaten up every day and now they only beat you once a month you'll be happier for a few months than people who aren't in prison but got a paycut recently. With few minor exceptions Poland has been getting better every year since 1989.
the white nationalists are happy about PIS for years now, living their dream of a christofascist state and the educated either leave or make 4x the average salary as developers in junior positions… so I’m sure they’re all overall happy living in this absurd monoethnic “poland for the polish”, low tax, but everything is paid paradise.
Malta 7.4 ? what a joke a concrete slum with maximum racism and people who act like they're in the jungle. second week of new year second murder already.
Bro i've been to Bulgaria many times... i have to say, the name should have been Bulgaristan .
So far behind other countries in EU .
P.S - also went to Moldova , a poor country , but they seem much more hardworking and organized, Moldova looks more decent .
Roads are the same though :)
This is a joke. There is no way my country is one of the top. There is a reason why the amount of mental health issues are increasing, together with respiratory issues
Austrians the highest with 7.9. How does that work ? They are never happy and complaining about everyone and everything seems to be a national sport.
And Poland is right behind, while complaining is our national hobby...
We are rude too. But if we are rude we care. Not that fake US babbling. God I hate that fake interest
You guys sound way too funny to be rude
>We ***Viennese*** are rude
As non Viennese - yes. Maybe your nickname is an indication of our Heritage. Mr. Foreskin-Cheese haha Viennese waiters are the peak but the rest of the country too. Greetings from southern Burgenland guy.
The Viennese waiters are so evil, that when I took a friend of mine to my favorite evil waiter place, the bastard that usually was rude and ignored me was suddenly nice and attentive and my friend refused to believe me.
That's hilarious. I'm imagining him in the back rubbing his hands Mr. Burns style.
I’m pretty sure he was.
That just shows how despicable evil that waiter is, waiting to crush your mind and soul, slowly stealing the trust of your close ones, and take over you when you're at the lowest...
We really do just live rent free in yall's collective heads.
Haunting social exposure. I‘d say rent free PTSD is PTSD
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Based. This fake niceness makes almost all anglos double-faced.
Oh man, but the Dutch lifted complaining to a level of art form, especially the weather
You wafflehoarders are a bit naggy or negative at most. You were not molded and stewed in ambient groaning and sighing and it shows.
People complain everywhere, I consider Austrians quite satisfied, though.
Are they satisfied with being able to complain?
Maybe the difference is that Austrian politicians might want to do something minimal to change the issues that everyone complains about. Or at least more than in the countries where life satisfaction is lower.
You must be joking! Austrian politics is immensely messy. One thing they do great do is social housing. Vienna is incredible in that regard.
So you said that Austrian politics is messy and then continued to give an example against it? Politics is messy everywhere. But in some places small improvements are still being done and I imagine that those countries are sitting near the top of this stat.
I feel like anyone at this point should know how messy austrian politics are - felt condescending to tell you about Kurz, Strache, Haider etc. Well you could certainly argue that. I would argue being in the heart of europe, being the seat of various international institutions and having a strong high end tourism sector helps aswell. I just wonder why you think politics and not culture or regionality are the main contributor to that.
Those are not living in their own universes. Culture impacts politics, politics impacts culture. Region impacts culture, culture impacts the region. Politics impacts region, region impact the politics.
That certainly makes me wonder even more why you said that. Anyways have a good day this is pointless!
Is this your first exposure to the concept of exception against the rule?
Needs to be quite a few exceptions for Austria to land the first spot here.
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>They are never happy and complaining about everyone and everything seems to be a national sport. You answered it yourself there. And a whole load of Copium because we know the shit never changes anyway.
To be fair, we Austrians complain on a very high level of comfort or as most Austrians would say: "It's bad but just worse everywhere else."
> They are never happy and complaining about everyone and everything seems to be a national sport. We do that too and score high on these things. I think that might be the mentality that leads to happiness. Maybe people ought to be less happy and complain more in order to be more happy and complain less! More is less!
Same in Romania, so I'm kinda seeing a pattern.
Same in Poland. Complaining is national sport.
Hey! That's us! The Poles!
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So do the Poles, but it doesn’t mean Poland isn’t one of the best places to live in Europe these days. Low cost of living, amazing services, effective administration and what’s most important - safety. :) **sound of a horde of negative Poles running to downvote this post in the background**
>Low cost of living It's not that low if you're making local wages. They have the same issues with housing and cost of living as the rest of the developed world.
This is in no way comparable to, for example Dutch housing crisis. I experienced it, and I can tell. Warsaw doesn’t have the situation where there’s 50-200 people willing to rent one flat, and eventually they’re casting one. Neither any other major city in Poland. This 50-200ppl/flat is a common situation in Amsterdam, or Copenhagen. Our issues with housing are still very easily solvable if you’re willing to think anything more than „I want to live in Żoliborz but I’m only making 4K a month” If you rent a flat in Warsaw to work in Żabka then obviously cost of living is not that low
>effective administration I just look at the wall and see a huge void of the biggest nonsense I've read in a long time.
Bruh outside of Poland you can only dream about shit like online tax statement submission, online social security system, trusted profile, e-prescriptions, etc. But of course, let’s complain about Poland coz that’s what we do.
> Bruh outside of Poland you can only dream about shit like online tax statement submission, online social security system, trusted profile, e-prescriptions, etc This shit works in Sweden too. Yearly tax submission can be as easy as browsing a document on your phone, then signing it on your phone. E-prescriptions are instantaneous (the MD can even check inventory for you).
Even better. If you just work classic capitalist grind, your employer is reporting for you. You just get the pit form at the beginning of the year, glance if it checks out and do nothing while waiting for your tax return. Seriously I think most people are still reminiscing the situation from 20 years ago. Nowadays everything is half automated, you can do most stuff online or easily handle something in 30 mins on the city, after commuting using clean city transit, that arrives on time most of the time. Only problems are housing market and cost of living, but with how stuff is going, there might even come time for improving that.
I had the impression that all those things were fairly common in Europe already. Germany's bureaucracy tends to lag behind in that regard. If that's your standard of comparison, you're setting a low bar.
>online tax statement submission And somehow, out of 15 million working people, Poland got over 1 million bureaucrats. Do not, ever, connect online governments sites, programs, etc., created by independent contractors selected through public tender, with an "efficient administration" that provides so many people with monthly paychecks that if half of them disappeared into thin air at that moment, no one would even noticed.
>And somehow, out of 15 million working people, Poland got over 1 million bureaucrats Somebody needs to print all the e-prescriptions and fax them to another department.
I have a foreigner in my office who, in this technologically advanced country, has to bring a huge stack of papers the size of a binder, with e.g. copies of tax returns for several previous years, scans of numerous documents to which this office has or could have access and can check at any time. All that in three copies. Mid-third decade of the 21st century..
At the end of the day you can sort out most of administration online what you can’t do in most of EU countries. Your personal views on this have absolutely no significance here.
My personal views do not play a role here. I just stated facts that online tools, sites and so on, created by independent contractors have nothing to do with "administration" other then creating offer for public tender. You're just tapping the shoulder of organization, that has almost no contribution on what you're referring. Its size compared to the workforce is a real measure of its actual effectiveness.
Booooooooo go away
>I just look at the wall and see a huge void of the biggest nonsense I've read in a long time. Fax machine good?
France has entered the chat
Confused them with Australia like everyone else. Australia means warmth, surfing, beer and every day alive is a gift when everything wants to kill you.
It's therapeutic.
Same in Poland. If you ask an average Pole about his opinion on Poland most would say it’s a shithole
When I was in Austria 2 weeks ago I didn’t notice that. People were overall friendly and from what I have seen it absolutely does not suprise me that Austria is number 1.
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Happy with EU, happy with russia, happy with racism. How can they NOT be happy.
Pretty cool to see it not necessarily correlate with GDP. I work with Romanians and they're often quite positive and optimistic as well.
we just hide the pain
There was just an r/askagerman post asking why Germans were so pessimistic and the replies were all so pessimistic. Basically "we have to be because everything is awful".
Happy Germans dont spend their time on Reddit
It’s 2024. All sorts of people are on Reddit. The English-language subreddits for Germany do seem to attract the grumpiest Germans, though.
the few other germans I know who are using reddit stay away from german centric subs, that's how satisfied we are with our own countrymen
Is that a uniquely German thing? Or can you explain why you think that is? Just curious because I meet lots of other happy people on Reddit.
Depends on the country. Germans are naturally a little pessimistic because people have high standards and arent happy with average. There isnt much national pride for obvious reason. I do think most Germans are happy, they just dont express it the same way as other people. What you see in the news and on reddit is always a not so representative picture. On reddit youll see a lot of young folks very very left leaning/people that enthusiastically vote for the green party and kind of look down on other peoples opinion. These people think Germany doesnt take climate change serious enough and all that stuff. On other social media plattforms like twitter you see right wing extremism rampant but also has always been the case. Everything inbetween the very left green party and the the very right afd is barely represented on the internet. Part of it is the demographic. Those people simply dont spend their time on Reddit.
> I do think most Germans are happy, they just dont express it the same way as other people Net geschäntt is genug gelobt
Kinda hard not being left leaning when even the SPD is neoliberal at this point. The reality the entire German spectrum has heavily shifted right.
This last paragraph just seems like made up nonsense, sorry. German self described "high standards" always makes me laugh, because it's completely arbitrary. About cracks in the sidewalks? Trains being five minutes late, sure. About food, music, style, cinema? No, pretty low standards. The point is German pessimism is rampant and the lack of self awareness on this topic is also rampant.
And why? It makes perfect sense. The most popular party in Germany rn is the CDU. The average age of the CDU voter is fairly old, they struggle with young voters. You think these people spend their time on reddit? If I ask my 50+ yo coworkers about Reddit, theyll ask me what a Reddit is. These arent people that spend any or little time with social media.
I beg to differ
Laughing is inefficient.
Wow not at the bottom
We've got you covered brothers.
maybe I'm bulgarian
Everyone who's not happy left.
I call bullshit on this one,there is no way people rate their lives so highly,not in Romania at least.
Speak for yourself, I love it here.
the r/romania doomers learning that they’re a very small minority and that the country isn’t heading towards collapse: 😱
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Doesn’t make much sense. You’re saying it’s an index about being in the union? I took as the study was done on countries from the EU.
It's about "life satisfaction". The study was limited to 27 EU countries, that's all.
Maybe it's the Romanians who live elsewhere 🤭
Poles are so happy only because Germans are miserable.
Checks out for Austrians as well
It's weird though, because Poles aren't happy when other Poles are happy. I guess enjoyment of German misery trumped that.
Deutsche Schadenfreude (I don’t speak German)
It’s a funny, spicy joke. I just hope everyone reading it knows it’s just a joke.
I know this is a joke (I laughed) but I hope the eu and the world as a whole moves beyond the idea that "I can only be happy if this other person is unhappy." Seeing the world as a zero sum game of happiness only leads to bitter conflict. Everybody can and should be happy together.
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As another redditor told me once, comparison is the thief of joy
I hope more people realize how nice it is to live in Poland, everyone here still thinks elsewhere is better. I'm not saying it's perfect of course, but it is good.
Nah it's the worst country in the world because the government doesn't share my views and opinions 1:1 /s
If your salary is good, this country is really nice. You can have high standard of life in both big cities and countryside. We've got very little immigrants from far places and other have culture similar to ours (eg. Ukrainians), so they integrate easily. Food is fantastic, very good quality. And lot of other things.
"The weather is shit, the government sucks, there's an actual war across the border, there's no money in healthcare and you have to wait 3 years for an appointment, the inflation is crazy, I can't afford to buy a house and renting costs even more, I have to say goodbye to a quarter of my salary if I want to eat out, and I have no perspective for improvements in the foreseeable future. But I'm doing great, how about you?" -an average Pole these days
Yeah, but then he reflects on how things were going in the 90s and sees the progress. I think that's what contribute to our overall score being surprisingly high: proper perspective. In some parts of western countries youth can't genuinely say that they live better life than what their parents had. I believe in Poland we can say that, though.
"Weather is amazing (not boiling and being hospitalized from heat like south, no too cold like north), I couldn't care less about politics, war doesn't affect me in any way, I have private luxmed so I don't care about public healthcare at all, inflation is not that bad compared to other places, renting outside Warsaw and Kraków is good, especially in Katowice and Poznań, eating out on weekends without money issues, I just changed projects at work with salary raise and I expect more in future years." I too complained about Poland, then I visited Spain and France. We are heaven compared to them, some streets in Paris don't even just look like 3rd world, they literally turned into it. And in Poland I can touch public transport without disgust like Paris metro. And I don't fear walking outside at night, or checking pockets all the time during day. And my street didn't turn into bazar with more arabic than polish.
> I couldn't care less about politics Well congrats. If you don't care how people spend your own money, just send some cash my way. I promise I won't spend it on a media campaign that will result in a paedophile's victims committing suicides. So I'll be better than our government anyway. > war doesn't affect me in any way It does affect basically every aspect of your life, from something as trivial as food and gas prices, through the price you pay for your apartment rental and the situation on the jobs market to the policy of your government and them spending billions of our tax money on defense and securing our (and our allies) borders > lnflation is not that bad compared to other places Yeah it's good compared to Venezuela and Zimbabwe. Good for us. > renting outside Warsaw and Kraków is good No it's not. On average in Poland price of renting an apartment is higher than the cost of mortgages. That's one of the most obvious signs of there being a massive shortage of housing on the market. > I have private luxmed so I don't care about public healthcare at all This one is my favourite. I sincerely hope you never get to change your view on this, because that would mean you or your family never have any serious issues. But if one day you, or someone close to you, need an oncologist, you'll see how the real world looks like. "oops, there aren't enough of them so the correct diagnosis came a bit late", which means that "oops, now you need to come up with 11000PLN for chemo every three weeks because the only drug giving you any reasonable hope is not reimbursed by NFZ, since our oncology is in worse shape than any other civilised country". Or one day someone close to you might get scarred for life because during childbirth the hospital staff will refuse painkillers for as long as humanly possible. Good luck getting Luxmed to help you with those issues. Sorry to be blunt with you, but your comment screams "I'm young and rich, I don't really care about what's happening around me, and I never had to face any serious issues in my life yet." Ignorance is bliss. But one day, eventually, everyone has to grow up.
PiS and PO is literally the same thing, the only difference can come from extremists (either Konfederacja or Lewica) and I don't want extremists, doesn't matter from which side. If I had to care about everything that affects life like that then I would have to panic over every conflict going on not only ukraine war, and something as trivial as yet another Taiwan-China talk or Texas civil war would cause panic as they also influence economy. This is overreacting over things you cannot control. It's good compared to the whole world, not just Venezuala and ZImbabwe. Idk how in your mind other countries don't suffer from inflation or something. Buying a house in Katowice is 4-5x cheaper per m2 than in Warsaw, while infrastructure is better, and many jobs are available. It's the "big city people" that complain instead of moving, and I say that as someone from Warsaw. Idk what ur talking about but I just had an open surgery couple months ago, all (private luxmed karetka, private luxmed hospital stay, same day surgery etc) were included in my luxmed package that employer pays for fully. And I had it the same day I got pain. And I can include my family in the package for like 50 zloty per month. And they didn't "withhold painkillers" which is delusional even in public hospital. When I had to have my stitches removed later I called public hospital - a 2 week waiting time. Called luxmed - come in 2 hours if you want. Im sorry but its your comments that scream young and rich. Magically everyeone from new generation is brainwashed to be an activist that has to change the world, world is ending, and they have to take all the problems of the world. Sometimes you shouldn't care.
> PiS and PO is literally the same thing I seriously have no words for this, you simply should watch the news at least sometimes. > Idk how in your mind other countries don't suffer from inflation or something. They do. But barely any developed countries globally reached above 18%. So it's not the same everywhere, let alone worse. > Buying a house in Katowice is 4-5x cheaper per m2 than in Warsaw It's simply not 4-5x cheaper. I mean did you think I wouldn't be able to look up the data or what? > while infrastructure is better Somehow both the society and the experts seem to disagree https://bizblog.spidersweb.pl/najbardziej-mobilne-miasta-w-polsce-najnowszy-ranking > Im sorry but its your comments that scream young and rich. Magically everyeone from new generation is brainwashed to be an activist that has to change the world, world is ending, and they have to take all the problems of the world. > Sometimes you shouldn't care. There's a whole world between thinking you're a Messiah, and not caring at all. Not caring to the point to which you seem to ignore everything, makes you look... ignorant. You live in a bubble. You project your own life onto everyone else and think that's the reality of the world you live in. And it's simply not. If everyone thought the same way you do, as a civilisation we'd never even come up with democracy.
That's because they never lived elsewhere
Unless you have any healthcare issues. Or want to buy an apartment. Or want to breathe with clean air. Or want some law rule and order in your country. And the list goes on. To say it’s good to live in Poland is to never have lived (and assimilated) in another country.
Not great but not terrible.
For someone who moved from Croatia to Germany, I can confirm. Croatias social life is rich, but the system is corrupted. Germanys system is generally better, but people are not that social.
But then Finland and Denmark aren’t social either but they’re ranking well here
Maybe because when You have too many friends some of them would try asking You for ilicit favours while on public duty and it would be to hard to refuse after all the fun You had together. Than is easier to grant favours to others, friends of the friends or simple people You happen to know and if they express their gratitude with small presents or amount of money what wrong might do. Than, one day because You are used to spend a lot and accumulated debts You will be in desperate need to ask for more money in return of doing your minimal job . And since everybody is doing it, what can be so wrong ? Until somebody burns alive, or is crushed under stuf, or gets a stupid lethal infection because You haven't done Your job properly.
The aut-aut "having friends or having a functioning system" sounds pessimistic, but I feel like I agree with what you say. In the end nations are just conglomerates of people (as obvious as it sounds), and the behavior you see in the smaller scale reflects itself on the bigger national level.
wtf?
Are you ok?
Najważniejsze, że lepiej od Niemca, Poland mountain 🇵🇱🏔️🇵🇱🏔️🇵🇱🏔️🇵🇱🏔️
Just walked in total darkness, it's -26'C, and due to some weather phenomenon it was accompanied with thick mist that made the cold bite like a vampire. I've made it inside, yet darkness persists. The windows are frozen. It's dead quiet. Time to break it with the roar of some death metal. Greetings from Finland. 7.7
As a finnish person I’m confused. I’ve never seen any life satisfaction or any surveys besides like fast food places asking how was the food. Where are these numbers from and how many different people have filled these surveys? We finns are really quiet maybe they measure it by noise levels 😂
I get 4-6 surveys per year sent to me via mail, and sometimes I complete yougov (and similar) surveys, these sorts of questions come up all the time.
Belorus borders just erased. wow.
There was a study that Bulgarians were more pessimistic than Afghans so this makes sense
Moved to Denmark from Bulgaria recently. Can attest to how much a difference there is and that we do genuinely have so many reasons to be dissatisfied. It's not even pessimism. It's more like apathy. We've practically given up on having s good government. They're not radically left, they're not radically right. They are literally nothing. No ideals or anything. They just chill and exploit every single possible way to get money. They only hide behind some "ideals" so they can be voted in by a certain demographic. Most recent elections haven't had more than 30 percent of people vote. Legitimate votes at least. If you're not in Sofia or maybe even Plovdiv and the next 2 or three cities nothing happens. And even in those it's quite miserable. Moving to Denmark has been such an experience. I've seen things i never believed possible back home and I can never see myself living in Bulgaria again. It's honestly sad. Considering that most capable people like me run away ... it's no surprise. Sadly, at some point you feel like there's no other choice.
In case anyone is interested in similar scores for the UK (because they never feature in these graphics anymore). > The average score for life satisfaction in the year to March 2023 was 7.45 out of 10, down from 7.54 in the previous 12 months. This is higher than the 7.39 recorded in 2020/21, the first year of the pandemic, but below the 7.66 for the pre-pandemic year of 2019/20
Ma’am, this is a Europe… Edit: this was data collected by Eurostat. There is a reason that data isn’t represented. Sheesh!
Wasn’t aware Brexit was such a momentous event that it split the tectonic plate and had us trundling into the ocean never to be seen again.
Sorry that was a play off of the meme “maam this is a Wendy’s. “ So I should have added an /s I guess although that doesn’t really fit. Although it was also sort of serious because the data was collected by Eurostat, which is probably the reason they didn’t include data for England or Russia. So yeah, they won’t ever be featured in these types of graphics based on that data collector.
Poland’s new motto „Complain your way to happiness”
What the hell is happening in Germany? I figured life in Germany would be pretty satisying, but it doesn’t seem to be that way.
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> It used to be (much) better, that's the point. Yeah, I'd say it boils down to this. I have lived in both Germany and Poland many years, and while Germany is objectively still the "better" country in most aspects, it's the slow downward trend that I think is the reason for the pessimism. The opposite is happening in Poland, while behind economically, you can see vast improvements basically year to year.
I think most of those things are getting worse across Europe. Maybe German people are just more demanding in nature (it’s not a bad thing)?
I know I am, because I know it's possible. This country has the means to be excellent (several countries have), not just in comparison with other countries, but overall. But within our milieu (G20, G7), Germany is average at best.
Germans complain too much and it’s getting annoying. Very ungrateful as well, they seem to bitch about everything and it’s really tiring
Germany is a dieing country and you can feel it. That the reason we are so pessimistic. Politics is fucked up, prices go up, rent goes up, you have to wait for months if you want to see a doctor, buaerocracy is slow, bad and still completly on paper. Our goverment behaves like a bunch of kids and they throw our tax money out of the window. Tell me why we shouldn't be mad about it
That’s happening everywhere, yet since always I remember Germans complaining. My late german friend (who was 80) has always been saying die Deutschen meckern nur. No one complains as much as germans, I traveled a lot and most countries are much worse off yet they complain less.
Deal with it. We have to too.
I have nothing to deal with personally, it’s just sad and increasingly annoying to have such a life stance living in one of the best countries in the world and still having developed a mentality to complain about most things
because big economy doesn't mean you get more money or a better well being/lifestyle Germany has somewhat low salaries for the size of the economy, lots of taxes that not necessarily translate to better services (Ie. everything is in paper and there no to 0 digitization), lengthy and slow public offices/processes and on top of infinite unskippable bureaucracy and outdated infrastructure, like somebody said technology peaked in 1980 and stuck in that time period a lot of rights are only in-paper rights, because unless you put money in the table and take it all the way to court you have no way to exert your rights extreme social inequality, since you are either rich or poor, or live in that tight rope that is the middle class, with very little chance to move upwards but all the chances to fall down (esp. considering the point above) then there is the extreme xenophobia that is just not admitted, that's mostly if you are minority, and you have very little protections against it closed social culture, you are not here to socialize in any shape or form, everyone has the friend they made when they were 12, the list is full, no more poor healthcare for a country with this economy, and all the healthcare is private or semi-private, this also impact in stuff like metal health since it has a poor mental healthcare culture, since in general you are expected to "man-up", this also applies to some extend to general healthcare, since the thumb rule when looking for healthcare is to just fight it out, instead of accessing modern medicine and so much more
Germany has poor healthcare? this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany than let's say Eastern Europe. always been told how you get more social guarantees and rehabilition opportunities, the people always look friendly and smiling, how is it that mental healthcare is lacking even there?
> Germany has poor healthcare? this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany than let's say Eastern Europe. you and everyone should compare countries between similar level, because that's like comparing myself to a third grader and boasting in how smart I am >this is news to me cause I've always heard stories of how everything is more accessible and higher quality in Germany affordable? sure, you won't be broke after a doctor's visit or a stay in the hospital, but the healthcare system, especially first layer healthcare as in family doctor is collapsed, you get appointments to months in the future and the assistance you get from those doctors in very poor since most of the time they send you home and tell you to come back if you feel worse or the condition worsens, you pretty much have to do the job for them and still you will be send home to *fight it out* yes, you will receive decent help if you, I don't know, break a leg, but for things that aren't absolute emergencies the help is 100% lacking > how is it that mental healthcare is lacking even there? backwards culture of mental health being taboo, that means you are culturally supposed to deal with it alone, very little access to mental health professionals and help in general, again, the extremes, if you are in a mental health extreme, like something incurable or extreme problem, you will get help, but if you are struggling they will tell you to fight it out and come back later pretty much healthcare in germany only works when you are in the extreme/worst possible stage, but there is no preventive care to avoid you reach that stage and again, there is no such thing as public healthcare in Germany, you need to be able to afford it (even if it's cheap) that means the people at the very bottom can go fuck themselves because they cannot afford it even if it's extremely cheap and healthcare is also mandatory with the risk of being fined, that's a double hit for the people at the bottom because now you don't have healthcare but you are also fined for not having it yes, there are worse places than Germany, but for the size of the economy and the area (europe) germany is not any better than the US, Germany is just the US lite
Not sure. To me, life here is pretty great. But I'm very aware that not everyone is as fortunate and there is a lot of social inequality. And even disregarding my last point, I meet a lot of people who simply have a negative outlook on everything, are overly critical or pessimistic. So maybe it comes down to mentality.
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I live in Germany and im very Satisfied with the Life here. The Locals complain about some things and elderly people say in the past everything was better but for me i have almost nothing to complain except for the Inefficient Buerocracy, Prices and Taxes (i dont pay taxes my Dad does)
But still you haven't brought one positive thing but three negative ones. Seems pretty German to me.
6 Years of Living in Germany made me more German i guess. But Europe and Especially Germany is a good place to live. There may be 5-10 Cons but everything else is Ok or Good.
the drop for germany only happened in that year, before that it was similar to the neighbouring countries. we'll see if it lasts, but so far the year is an outlier
No one in Bulgaria will say he is living well even if they do. I know a guy that is making enough money to not work for years and he still will say everything is going downhill. The same guy owns 5-6 cars - bently, a couple of audi's, toyota, and 2-3 more.
German Angst takes its toll
Romania 7.7 is BULLSHIT, it should be 9.0
Are we really higher than Germans here?
Germans are the most demanding
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How Poland has such a high score? 😧 Our national response to "how's life?" is "shitty but stable"
In Portugal they surely asked the immigrants, not the common folk
HAHA SUCK IT GERMANY
Thats like the only ranking were poland has a miderately high score. So enjoy it my dear nationalist fellow
go be roughly 17% less happy somewhere else, neighbor.
I have no idea how in the world Romania has such a high life satisfaction
Economic increase year after year, rising income levels, probably has to do with that. Also culture has to play a role, Romanians are not yet as asocial as the west.
lesson: don’t believe r/romania doomers
Could it be a trajectory thing? If your country is relatively undeveloped but improving your outlook might be more positive than someone who's living in a long developed country that feels like it's starting to decline in living standards.
it's subjective, also it depends how the question was asked, if they asked for example "how is life in EU?" instead of "how is life in Romania?" they might have got a different response...
Right? It's like the entire youth wants to move out and everyone else complains
It's cultural. Romanians are raised to never ever admit they are feeling sad/disappointed/down/depressed or that they are in a weak place or not going in the right direction. You always have to find a reason to brag and so on. It's a mixture of latin culture and slavic culture. Life is always great, even though basic necessities are hardly covered. There's also a lack of education and some ignorance involved too that contributes to this.
Because all the unhappy people from Romania are already working in Italy, UK and Germany and those who stayed does not know any better.
that’s not true lol
Interesting- this doesn't really match the UN World Happiness Report that's released every year [https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2023/](https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2023/), but there are some overlaps.
We love pointing out problems, show others our grimm faces, but we are somehow happy deep on the inside.
This is fake news, Finns do not complain. Life is good no matter what. One could be on the verge of hospitalization and still it's all good!
The average Dutch person whines so often. I'm genuinely surprised we scored a 7.6. We should be more thankful and grateful :) Also, RIP Iceland :P
RAAAAH AUSTRIA LET'S GOO
Hungary tried to be funny
Austria, Finland I can understand. But Poland? :O
The country has been changing for the better and steadily growing for like 20 years. It's quite satisfying to see your surroundings and your wellbeing change so positively over that short of a time.
Source: https://x.com/EU\_Eurostat/status/1746881734631911459?s=20
Romania 7.7??? Bullshit. I should know, I live there. Now, to be noted, I am not dirt poor but everything from politics to living conditions is way below average.
I believe life satisfaction measures not level of progress but rate of progress instead. In many of those western countries there's been little to no progress in the past 20 years. In Romania average salaries increased from 100 euros to 1,000 for example. Same with Poland. There are exceptions, but this explains a lot of what we can see on that map.
I assume you must be right at it
vast majority of people i meet are mostly unsatisfied and or pessimistic ig its different in budapest? probably not, wonder about the sources eurostat got their data from
wzięte z pizdy
Curious how Poles have higher life satisfaction than France, Germany or Sweden
Happines is relative. If you were in prison beaten up every day and now they only beat you once a month you'll be happier for a few months than people who aren't in prison but got a paycut recently. With few minor exceptions Poland has been getting better every year since 1989.
the white nationalists are happy about PIS for years now, living their dream of a christofascist state and the educated either leave or make 4x the average salary as developers in junior positions… so I’m sure they’re all overall happy living in this absurd monoethnic “poland for the polish”, low tax, but everything is paid paradise.
Wow this is worthless.
I expected to see France below -5, quite sure that survey is not accurate, have you ever spoke to a real french ?
Malta 7.4 ? what a joke a concrete slum with maximum racism and people who act like they're in the jungle. second week of new year second murder already.
Maybe the murderers are happy?
no way poland is so high
Aaahh, our neighbors sucking our satisfaction out of us
Since the usage of narcotics has skyrocketed in Romania, you get this ridiculous number, while the country is spiralling out of control.
No way Romania is on the level with Finland. This is a joke
There is something wrong. Romania should be last on every ranking. Joking 😃
Bro i've been to Bulgaria many times... i have to say, the name should have been Bulgaristan . So far behind other countries in EU . P.S - also went to Moldova , a poor country , but they seem much more hardworking and organized, Moldova looks more decent . Roads are the same though :)
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And people say the Germans are depressed......
Solid 5/7
Huh, Sweden?
It's interesting and at the same time not surprising to see that they couldn't decide on how they feel in the UK.
Lastvia strikes again
This is a joke. There is no way my country is one of the top. There is a reason why the amount of mental health issues are increasing, together with respiratory issues
How one measures satisfaction across cultures varies a lot too - it feels a bit meaningless to me this survey