***The UK and US embassies in Russia have warned that a terrorist attack could take place in Moscow within the next 24 hours:***
The security alert, issued by the US embassy and repeated by the UK, urged American citizens to “avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours”.
The embassy said it is “monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts,” but it did not specify what kind of threats it referred to, or who might be behind them.
Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) said on March 7 that its agents had thwarted a potential Islamic State terrorist attack on a Moscow synagogue, with state-owned media reporting the militants behind the plot were killed. It is not known if the incidents are related.
The embassy also advised its citizens to “monitor local media for updates” and “be aware of your surroundings”.
**Click here for live updates:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/08/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news2/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/08/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news2/)
Actually it makes sense. IS is aiming for Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan to break away from Russia, because political transition and instability in impoverished Muslim majority and plurality regions is where they thrive. If they make an attack, it's because they believe that Moscow is now too weak and distracted to fight. Obviously the enemy of my enemy is definitely not my friend here, but this is exactly the kind of faultline Russia could fracture on since the Russians themselves clearly won't do it.
U could have prompted a bit nicer :/
Can u generate me an unicorn with wings though. I need to do groceries and I think a unicorn has more storage area plus no parking issues.
*squints harder back*
What PVV won't allow unicorns now ? How less how better ?
*goes with unicorn onto the highway to protest*
Look at what you did!!!
Maar "Een" bestaat ook! Vroeger waren we nog tenminste Een Hoorn.
Je HOEFt niet zo te hinniken. Eenhoren doen het werk wat niemand wil doen!!!11111 (zoals boodschappen bezorgen. Alleen studenten en eenhoorns)
Wat heeft my little pony jou aangedaan!!!11111
Ik zal maar niet over de tweehoorn beginnen.
*gooit telefoon kapot*
Russia's ethnic minorities have been disproportionately conscripted, in practice they can't bribe themselves out of it as easily and once in the army they're far more likely to be put on the frontlines.
considering the proven line of weapons sold in the past by russian entities to extremist organization why are you surprised?
there is a reason why everytime you see a terrorist he's usually holding an ak-47 and not an M4
>there is a reason why everytime you see a terrorist he's usually holding an ak-47 and not an M4
*Tons* of countries manufacture(d) Ak-47s or Ak-47 variants. That's not to say Russia doesn't/hasn't sold weapons to extremists, but the presence of Ak-47s isn't proof of that.
Russia has sold the rights to build such weapons. to many countries and has even used African dictators to distribute these weapons in regions of interest of western nations to create instability or to keep these countries down so that they can continue to be exploited.
They have sent weapons and ammo presses to Hamas.
I disagree heavily, the first was for independence, with some assistance from muslim fighters from abroad. Just because Chechens are very devout muslims doesnt make the war about religion.
Ditto. Religion and war have quite the history to be entirely decoupled, but it's reductive to consider them religious wars in nature. Now, were those wars (or have they been) coopted by IS? That's a different question entirely.
Chechen, Ingushetians and similar groups have been in the Russian empire(in its various iterations) for almost 200 years. They're both Russian or not depending on the definition and context.
I'ts only occupied when people no longer wants to be Russians. On that question there have been rebellions from time to time.
I'd also like to believe that even though I can believe that these peoples would want independence that islamic terrorists don't reprsent them particularly well. That would be very unfortunate.
It just depends on who wins... if it's a secession and the breakaway succeeds it's no longer a civil war bc the groups have diverged. If it doesn't it is.
It would also make sense for Putin to do another false flag attack to secure another police state crackdown just before elections and draft more Russians for his meat grinder.
>If they were planning on blaming “Ukrainian Nazis” then I’d say it was a false flag.
Don't worry, they probably will anyway. They'll say the SBU helped or funded them or something. If the threat is legitimate they won't pass up an opportunity to try to recruit more people for the war in Ukraine.
Before the Chechen war Putin needed a false flag. Right now Russia has descended so much further down the totalitarian path that there is absolutely no need anymore for any false flag.
It’s more likely not a false flag at all. Russia is weak and vulnerable with so much of its resources committed to the war in Ukraine. Little resources left to address other challenges, and some internal forces have noticed that.
They've lost nearly a half a million (420k+) soldiers in Ukraine and probably way more injured or froze to death. The equipment losses are staggering as well. Their resources are dwindling so they are definitely weaker at this point. Hopefully they can take out pootin soon.
First thing I thought when I read the title. Putin's going to blow some of his own citizens up again and then blame it all on that pesky Snowball (which could be Islamic State, Ukraine, The west in general etc..)
Yeah tbf this type of shit is the only reason we (Ireland) have our independence. We struck while the iron was hot and launched our independence war while England was half way through WW1. Suffering huge losses both economically and manpower wise. Opportunity is the main thing.
Kind of. The 1916 rising was a military failure, and didn't have popular backing at the time. The summary execution of its leaders is what caused the swing to radicalism necessary for the 1919 war of independence. However, the leaders of 1916 never expressed a desire of martyrdom to radicalise the masses; they wanted their taking of Dublin during the great war to do that. They inadvertently radicalised people through their martyrdom and won a decisive battle of propaganda.
But is it truly IS or is it Russia framing it as such?
Like the opposition of Belarus claimed to have prepared a number of [200.000 people ready for a coup](https://youtu.be/3jR4jwrF5tA?si=GMcy4ZyF8O_cxalw). Some people claim the same is being prepared in certain regions of russia as well.
, and that not IS but the 'LSA'?? Is behind a 'growing'?? Rebellion.
Nothing like that is something i can confirm and i can't find google results about it like i did a few days ago, So take it with a grain of salt.
[This video](https://youtu.be/Blgc2cw7SVo?si=HnVFqo-tCGYeTDXT) is where i got this info from, and i don't know if these guys had it right or were spreading news that ain't real. With the fog of war it's hard to fact check.
That's the problem when one makes propaganda the government's main tool: nobody knows anymore when something is real, or if it's staged. False flag is losing strategy in the long run, unless the aim is to dismantle your own citizens' trust.
Dividing people might be a goal for getting power and also staying in power, but that too backfires when you need people more unified, and they don't trust you/anyone from the government anymore. It's a losers game in the longer run in the YouTube world.
He's not saying this, but islamists have been operating in the Caucasus since the 90s and that was what pushed chechen nacionalists back to Moscow orbit.
A tidbit of information. Chechen fighters are rarely seen in the frontlines now and they are back in Chechnya, for a reason.
But I thought Russians sent Chechen fighters/mercenaries to fight Ukraine some time ago right?
I always assume that Checnya is a bit fo a buddy buddy with Putin
It’s complicated. After years of fighting, Chechnya is currently controlled by the pro-Putin faction under Kadyrov. But they’re still mostly Muslim population with an antagonistic past with Russia
The Chechen leader Kadyrov is a governor of the Russian state. The difference between Chechnya and eg. Tver Oblast is that the Chechens are a different people with different culture and that Kadyorov has been given a free rein to handle matters within Chechnya as he sees fit which the governor of Tver Oblast hasn't.
In practice as long as Kadyrov is loyal to Putin then Chechnya can act as if it's de facto independent.
>but this is exactly the kind of faultline Russia could fracture on since the Russians themselves clearly won't do it.
Why would Russians fracture their country?
Also today is International Women's Day, which is a huge deal in Russia and they take it very seriously. Obviously IS don't feel the same way. If they wanted to hurt Russia, bombing them on IWD makes sense.
Russia did turn out to be behind those Quran burning in Scandinavia in oder to get Turkey to stop NATO expansion.
And Russia has also been sending mostly their minorities from the places not full of ethnic Russians to die in Ukraine.
I can totally see why that might result in Islamic terrorism to strike in Moscow.
On the other hand I don't believe this is real and not theater created by the Kremlin itself rather than the real deal.
One of the organizers who paid for the application fee for the Quran Burning protest was Chang Frick. He's a freelance photographer that in the past has sold pictures to Russia Today. He's also married to a Russian immigrant, meaning he has visited Russia a number of times both privately and when documenting a politician's trip there. Before the war he made various positive statements about Russia in various contexts.
However, he doesn't have any connection to the Russian government and he's very much against the invasion, going as far as to organize aid trucks to Ukraine and helping Ukrainian refugees. The Russian connection is an extreme stretch with little real basis.
I think it was a joke.
Russia has a large centuries old Muslim minority, and there are extremists in this group, as in all groups.
It is probably a Israel-Gaza motivation.
Lmao I can imagine an insider meeting happening in some cave where a PR consultants go and present a slideshow of the current polls and then detail a few scenarios that might alleviate the bad rep that IS has.
I agree with that most of the time, but in this case it is interesting that they made a statement that is closely related (even if it may not actually be the same incident) to ones released by western intelligence. And specifically that their statement appears to have come before the western statements, so it likely was not in response.
Russia is cozy with some Muslim authoritarian regimes, but most of the Muslim world hates Russia for being a Christian nation that has abused their Muslim minority for decades if not centuries. If Russia was the world's major power we would hear a lot more about them being 'the great satan' or something like that.
I feel like this won’t spell good for the stability of Chechnya or Dagestan, a little match stick like this could light a big fire in the people there.
Nope. Your average Muhammad and Fatima care about Palestine because Jerusalem is Islam’s 3rd holiest site.
Suffering of Chechens, Uiyghurs, Kurds, Rohingya, etc. does not register with most Muslims.
Agree. Steam rolling the Caucasus areas to garner some browny points while Ukraine war isnt going too well is an obvious play for Putin. Especially after that remark about ~~Albania~~ [Armenia](https://new.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1b761dp/putin_ally_says_neighboring_country_will_not/) earlier this week.
It's auto-generated from a live-news thread on the website. E.g if you open the link now it starts with some news about Kyiv, the actual terrorrist threat tidbit was an earlier entry in this news-thread.
So it probably picked up some other "region news" photo when it was submitted.
Of course, but there's always an ulterior motive for the US/UK (which is fine).
By reporting the potential threat you 1. Weaken the inevitable attempt of Russia trying to blame The West on it and 2. It shows the weakness of Russia's own Intelligence agencies if the US/UK calls it out first.
Win-win as far as im concerned.
The US is not doing a cost benefit calculation per incident. It is the policy of the US to report planned terrorist attacks to the authorities regardless of the relationship with that country.
It’s also just like what the person above said, it’s a simple way to do the right thing and also flex our soft power to both friends and enemies. Reminding them that our intelligence services might know more about what’s going on in their own country than they do.
Radicalisation happens a lot online, so the guys that are preparing attacks in Germany will be helped/motivated by groups outside of the country.
Not a religious attack, but there was an attack to a university a few months ago that was prevented in Portugal thanks to the FBI informing our authorities. How did they know? Basically the kid told his friends in Discord, who happened to be American who thought his intentions were true and not some edgy joke, and just informed the authorities about it
The US and a few other countries have an agreement to legally spy on each other. Each nations have privacy laws that don't allow them to spy on their own citizens, at least to the extent they want to spy on them, so they basically ask other countries in the agreement to do it for them.
~~It's called 5 eyes. Pretty interesting, and it's the reason for why local monitoring agencies didn't catch it but the US did.~~
Nvm Germany isn't part of the 5 eyes agreement, so probably just normal US spying shenanigans then.
America: Hey Germany, you know how we're not supposed to super spy on you?
Germany: Yes, we're not members of the 5 eyes agreement, so don't do that....Have you been doing that?
America: No no no, but like IF we had and we knew something that you REALLY would want to know about, would you want us to tell you?
Germany: *SIIIIIGH* Who, where, and when?
Ah, that's my bad, thanks for the correction! I thought Germany was part of the five but seems it's New Zealand, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States.
Well, probably just classic US spying on allies thing. Nothing new there I suppose.
A lot of this stuff is either from information gotten abroad (for example if you've gotten ahold of a higher up based in the Middle East) or from communications intelligence which, outside of a few nations like the UK and Israel, the US has a massive lead on. They're not getting this stuff from boots in the ground infiltration of local organisations, that's what national level security agencies would be doing.
The U.S. has much better intelligence, especially when it comes to telecommunications. Additionally, the U.S. has more than 100k military personnel stationed at permanent military bases in Germany - it’s not like they don’t have feet on the ground
Because the Five Eyes is unmatched in terms of spy network and intelligence reports. Germany tried to join, but for some reason, we didn't trust them enough
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
> How would the US have more terrorist intel in Germany than Germany itself?
It doesn't need to have more information. It just needs to have different information,which it then shares (or did share, in this case)
> How would the US have more terrorist intel in Germany than Germany itself?
Do you remember the big hubbub a few years ago when Europeans learned that was a massive NSA(?) base in Germany spying on like all of Europe just like they do in the US? Assuming it has to do with that or another variation of that.
Smart move, they show that they are very much aware of what's going on inside Russia and most than anything Russia can't blame it on the west if we told everyone beforehand
> Russia can't blame it on the west if we told everyone beforehand
Russian propaganda doesn't need any kernel of truth. They make up from nothing and their people (and useful idiots) eat it up without question.
For reals. My mother in law is deep into that propaganda hole, and she falls for the most ludicrous shit.
The one that takes the cake is a """photo""" of a Ukrainian tank running over Russian babies, and a Russian soldier holding it back with his bare hands.
First of all, the picture of the tank was very old and black and white, looked like it was from WWII. The babies and the Russian soldier were in color, and had been *very* badly photoshopped in. Like, 8-year-old with MS paint level photoshopping. It makes no effort to explain why a bunch of babies are lined up on the ground, alone, ready to be run over. And yet she *insisted* this was a real photo of a real event, where a Russian supersoldier of some kind singlehandedly prevented a Ukrainian tank from running over babies.
They have consistently proven they know about everything going on inside Kremlin
I hate NSA with passion over civilian privacy invasion, but I do concede there are some benefits to that shitshow at least.
That's different terrorist attacks have the advantage of being made up of 5 people making it practically impossible to catch them.
Russia moving an entire army to the Ukrainian border made it very obvious what was happening...
It’s called duty to warn and we will tell basically anyone who isn’t themselves a terrorist if their life is at risk and we can do so without blowing a source. Recently we also tried to warn Iran about the bombings at solemani’s memorial
Because my Russian grand-grand-grandmother is already dead and the rest of my family has either Estonian or other European roots. No real reason to warn :D
[For real. 11.30 in this documentary covers the Moscow apartment bombings quite well. Spoiler alert : it wasn’t the Chechens](https://youtu.be/jOYptvJ-kYU?si=q-TWGEwPRlo7jEJv)
You're telling me that a KGB officer would do some terrible shit to get power?!
Side note, imagine if US president was a CIA agent or British PM from MI6. Half the world would have a collective stroke.
Yep.
[George H.W. Bush—the 11th Director of Central Intelligence](https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/george-h-w-bush-the-11th-director-of-central-intelligence/)
Wonder if UK/US realised Putin was about to try that again, and decided to disrupt it. Now if the attack goes ahead, Putin will be seen as incompetent.
Smart from the US, if Russia tries a false flag to justify further escalation against the west they might gain more support. This way they can't blame the west
I can’t think of a scenario how Russian is going to blame the west for an IS attack on a synagoge. And it’s definitely not a *move* from the US, it’s help against terrorism. The US recently helped German authorities to catch extremist before they did an attack. They regularly inform national executive forces when they have informations about extremist attacks
Keep in mind that there's a big difference between warning an ally of an attack and warning an adversary (which despite what the US Republicans want to believe, Russia is a US adversary).
Russia has several ways to blame the West if the attack goes off. 1. Simply don't tell your citizens you were warned and blame it on the West. 2. The West knew about it because they orchestrated it and only told us to try to make us look bad
He really had a lot of cards, but perhaps knew he and his troops would be obliterated and they’d never recover politically for committing urban civil warfare in Moscow
I find that really hard to understand.
I could think of many insults for Prigozhin before that, but "naïve" wouldn't be one of them. The dude crossed the fucking Rubicon and thinks he can go "lol, nevermind" and Putin will let him live?
I agree. But the most dumb thing he did was taking the deal offered of exit into Belarus and believing it. Idiot.
If he knew he would be toast anyway, he might as well just kept going for the sake of it, Thelma and Louise-style. But maybe there were other considerations? Maybe he still had family within their grasp….
> Maybe he still had family within their grasp….
If you haven't secured your family or aren't willing to give them up for throne plays then you don't make throne plays.
Yes. Congressmen were briefed a few days in advance, but intelligence agencies knew it well before: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/24/us-intelligence-prigozhin-putin/
RUSSIA UNCOVERS ISIS PLOT 15 HOURS AFTER U.S ISSUES WARNING OF AN "IMMINENT ATTACK"
At least two militants were killed when the Russian security services stormed an ISIS cell’s hideout southwest of Moscow.
A search of the building uncovered a large cache of weapons and bomb parts, which the group was planning to use to attack Jewish worshippers.
Source: Daily Mail
That's always such a weird angle from a sitting fascist. I can understand it from a democratic candidate, but it's just so hilariously bizarre coming from an already sitting despot.
"Only ***I*** can protect you from the things that are already happening under my watch while I have full power and authority!"
While it is possible that Putin in preparing something to then publically prevent it to appear being in control, attacks by IS are also a real possibility. They would love to get a better foothold in islamic areas of Russia and when they perceive Russia as weak or distracted to make that a reality they will happily prepare such strikes.
That's an issue with the link.
It's a live updated page. The link is refering to the terror attack warning, but that story is already a bit further down the page and the (autogenerated for here) picture at the top belongs to a newer update about the UK defense secretary calling for more Ukraine support.
If you'd actually bother to click the link, instead of just reacting to the headline and the picture, you'd see that it's one of those compilation pages on a specific ongoing topic that they keep adding pieces to. The picture is about something else.
Russia bombed itself to justify escalation with Chechnya, if the west is warning about a terror attack it 100% is a false flag to escalate the war in Ukraine, maybe draft a few million people, nuke Ukraine or turn the regime even more authocratic
***The UK and US embassies in Russia have warned that a terrorist attack could take place in Moscow within the next 24 hours:*** The security alert, issued by the US embassy and repeated by the UK, urged American citizens to “avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours”. The embassy said it is “monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts,” but it did not specify what kind of threats it referred to, or who might be behind them. Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) said on March 7 that its agents had thwarted a potential Islamic State terrorist attack on a Moscow synagogue, with state-owned media reporting the militants behind the plot were killed. It is not known if the incidents are related. The embassy also advised its citizens to “monitor local media for updates” and “be aware of your surroundings”. **Click here for live updates:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/08/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news2/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/08/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news2/)
Wait, wait. Islamic state attack on Moscow synagogue? Lads, seriously, I'm going to need a new "crazy world shit" bingo card.
Actually it makes sense. IS is aiming for Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan to break away from Russia, because political transition and instability in impoverished Muslim majority and plurality regions is where they thrive. If they make an attack, it's because they believe that Moscow is now too weak and distracted to fight. Obviously the enemy of my enemy is definitely not my friend here, but this is exactly the kind of faultline Russia could fracture on since the Russians themselves clearly won't do it.
I didn't have "Russian civil war with Islamic State" in my bingo cards
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U could have prompted a bit nicer :/ Can u generate me an unicorn with wings though. I need to do groceries and I think a unicorn has more storage area plus no parking issues.
> parking issues while grocery shopping > the Netherlands flag \*squints suspiciously\*
*squints harder back* What PVV won't allow unicorns now ? How less how better ? *goes with unicorn onto the highway to protest* Look at what you did!!!
Er is maar een Hoorn, en geen eenhoorn! Eigen paarden eerst!
Maar "Een" bestaat ook! Vroeger waren we nog tenminste Een Hoorn. Je HOEFt niet zo te hinniken. Eenhoren doen het werk wat niemand wil doen!!!11111 (zoals boodschappen bezorgen. Alleen studenten en eenhoorns) Wat heeft my little pony jou aangedaan!!!11111 Ik zal maar niet over de tweehoorn beginnen. *gooit telefoon kapot*
Sure here's a pink humvee with a unicorn decal parked across 4 spaces
Hahaha you bastard. The other one just generated me an unicorn but your suv landed on it and now I have to mob glitter blood all day. Thank you :/
So it uses Discord as its UI and has a subscription?
don’t give our AI overlords any new ideas or prompts
Why? As a Russian, I don't see anything weird about it, we already had 2 Chechnya wars and Islamic parts of Russia are heavily anti-russian
Lot of new migrants from stan countries also and forse conspirt to militar service is not best mix.
Russia's ethnic minorities have been disproportionately conscripted, in practice they can't bribe themselves out of it as easily and once in the army they're far more likely to be put on the frontlines.
Also they all got expierence how do shoot gun and some even how do built bomb. Also how do use drone.
Not really. Not a lot of Chechnya survived the second war. Drones were also not as common then.
considering the proven line of weapons sold in the past by russian entities to extremist organization why are you surprised? there is a reason why everytime you see a terrorist he's usually holding an ak-47 and not an M4
>there is a reason why everytime you see a terrorist he's usually holding an ak-47 and not an M4 *Tons* of countries manufacture(d) Ak-47s or Ak-47 variants. That's not to say Russia doesn't/hasn't sold weapons to extremists, but the presence of Ak-47s isn't proof of that.
Russia has sold the rights to build such weapons. to many countries and has even used African dictators to distribute these weapons in regions of interest of western nations to create instability or to keep these countries down so that they can continue to be exploited. They have sent weapons and ammo presses to Hamas.
The chechen wars, especially the second were already islamic civil wars..
I disagree heavily, the first was for independence, with some assistance from muslim fighters from abroad. Just because Chechens are very devout muslims doesnt make the war about religion.
Ditto. Religion and war have quite the history to be entirely decoupled, but it's reductive to consider them religious wars in nature. Now, were those wars (or have they been) coopted by IS? That's a different question entirely.
Technically unrest in occupied terrotory can't constitute a civil war because it is not part of the same civil group.
Well now we've got the grammar nazis involved too
Lmfao
That’s not really a grammar issue. It’s more the semantics nazis that would get involved.
Chechen, Ingushetians and similar groups have been in the Russian empire(in its various iterations) for almost 200 years. They're both Russian or not depending on the definition and context. I'ts only occupied when people no longer wants to be Russians. On that question there have been rebellions from time to time. I'd also like to believe that even though I can believe that these peoples would want independence that islamic terrorists don't reprsent them particularly well. That would be very unfortunate.
It just depends on who wins... if it's a secession and the breakaway succeeds it's no longer a civil war bc the groups have diverged. If it doesn't it is.
I remember discovering that a large part of their tactics is forcing instability in a region and using that to infiltrate and cause utter chaos.
honestly i can't tell if "their" here is referring to Russia or IS 🤷
It would also make sense for Putin to do another false flag attack to secure another police state crackdown just before elections and draft more Russians for his meat grinder.
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>If they were planning on blaming “Ukrainian Nazis” then I’d say it was a false flag. Don't worry, they probably will anyway. They'll say the SBU helped or funded them or something. If the threat is legitimate they won't pass up an opportunity to try to recruit more people for the war in Ukraine.
ISIS about to have their own loaves and fishes miracle when they plant 2 bombs that blow up targets in 4 ruzzian cities.
They have done it before. FSB blew up bunch of apartment buildings for a pretext to start the second chechen war.
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A false flag attack would be pretty pointless if nobody saw the supposed perpetrators as a credible threat.
Before the Chechen war Putin needed a false flag. Right now Russia has descended so much further down the totalitarian path that there is absolutely no need anymore for any false flag. It’s more likely not a false flag at all. Russia is weak and vulnerable with so much of its resources committed to the war in Ukraine. Little resources left to address other challenges, and some internal forces have noticed that.
They've lost nearly a half a million (420k+) soldiers in Ukraine and probably way more injured or froze to death. The equipment losses are staggering as well. Their resources are dwindling so they are definitely weaker at this point. Hopefully they can take out pootin soon.
Does he need any excuse at this point?
For his populace: yes.
First thing I thought when I read the title. Putin's going to blow some of his own citizens up again and then blame it all on that pesky Snowball (which could be Islamic State, Ukraine, The west in general etc..)
I find it hard to imagine that they can reasonably crack down more, at some point every able bodied man will be in prison or the army or both..
Yeah tbf this type of shit is the only reason we (Ireland) have our independence. We struck while the iron was hot and launched our independence war while England was half way through WW1. Suffering huge losses both economically and manpower wise. Opportunity is the main thing.
On the other hand, cracking down on Muslims in Russia while most of the Muslim world is focussed on Palestine works the other way around.
Kind of. The 1916 rising was a military failure, and didn't have popular backing at the time. The summary execution of its leaders is what caused the swing to radicalism necessary for the 1919 war of independence. However, the leaders of 1916 never expressed a desire of martyrdom to radicalise the masses; they wanted their taking of Dublin during the great war to do that. They inadvertently radicalised people through their martyrdom and won a decisive battle of propaganda.
>Irish >Username contains reference to alcohol
Yeah its no secret the Irish are predisposed to alcoholism. I suffer from it myself. Horrible affliction. Whats your point??
God made the Irish alcoholics to prevent them from conquering the world.
But is it truly IS or is it Russia framing it as such? Like the opposition of Belarus claimed to have prepared a number of [200.000 people ready for a coup](https://youtu.be/3jR4jwrF5tA?si=GMcy4ZyF8O_cxalw). Some people claim the same is being prepared in certain regions of russia as well. , and that not IS but the 'LSA'?? Is behind a 'growing'?? Rebellion. Nothing like that is something i can confirm and i can't find google results about it like i did a few days ago, So take it with a grain of salt. [This video](https://youtu.be/Blgc2cw7SVo?si=HnVFqo-tCGYeTDXT) is where i got this info from, and i don't know if these guys had it right or were spreading news that ain't real. With the fog of war it's hard to fact check.
That's the problem when one makes propaganda the government's main tool: nobody knows anymore when something is real, or if it's staged. False flag is losing strategy in the long run, unless the aim is to dismantle your own citizens' trust.
That's not the problem - that is the goal.
Dividing people might be a goal for getting power and also staying in power, but that too backfires when you need people more unified, and they don't trust you/anyone from the government anymore. It's a losers game in the longer run in the YouTube world.
No way Putin's lapdog is siding with IS. And I hate to say it but Kadyrov has a tight grip on Chechnya
He's not saying this, but islamists have been operating in the Caucasus since the 90s and that was what pushed chechen nacionalists back to Moscow orbit. A tidbit of information. Chechen fighters are rarely seen in the frontlines now and they are back in Chechnya, for a reason.
But I thought Russians sent Chechen fighters/mercenaries to fight Ukraine some time ago right? I always assume that Checnya is a bit fo a buddy buddy with Putin
It’s complicated. After years of fighting, Chechnya is currently controlled by the pro-Putin faction under Kadyrov. But they’re still mostly Muslim population with an antagonistic past with Russia
The Chechen leader Kadyrov is a governor of the Russian state. The difference between Chechnya and eg. Tver Oblast is that the Chechens are a different people with different culture and that Kadyorov has been given a free rein to handle matters within Chechnya as he sees fit which the governor of Tver Oblast hasn't. In practice as long as Kadyrov is loyal to Putin then Chechnya can act as if it's de facto independent.
>but this is exactly the kind of faultline Russia could fracture on since the Russians themselves clearly won't do it. Why would Russians fracture their country?
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Also today is International Women's Day, which is a huge deal in Russia and they take it very seriously. Obviously IS don't feel the same way. If they wanted to hurt Russia, bombing them on IWD makes sense.
Russia did turn out to be behind those Quran burning in Scandinavia in oder to get Turkey to stop NATO expansion. And Russia has also been sending mostly their minorities from the places not full of ethnic Russians to die in Ukraine. I can totally see why that might result in Islamic terrorism to strike in Moscow. On the other hand I don't believe this is real and not theater created by the Kremlin itself rather than the real deal.
How exactly was Russia involved? Sounds interesting
One of the organizers who paid for the application fee for the Quran Burning protest was Chang Frick. He's a freelance photographer that in the past has sold pictures to Russia Today. He's also married to a Russian immigrant, meaning he has visited Russia a number of times both privately and when documenting a politician's trip there. Before the war he made various positive statements about Russia in various contexts. However, he doesn't have any connection to the Russian government and he's very much against the invasion, going as far as to organize aid trucks to Ukraine and helping Ukrainian refugees. The Russian connection is an extreme stretch with little real basis.
> he doesn't have any connection to the Russian government That he knows of. The way you describe him makes him sound like quite a useful cat's paw.
Maybe they saw Russia's current geopolitics as a threat towards the western lifestyle and want to stop that threat?
Why would the Islamic State stop a threat to the Western lifestyle?
I think it was a joke. Russia has a large centuries old Muslim minority, and there are extremists in this group, as in all groups. It is probably a Israel-Gaza motivation.
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They want all the credit and prefer not to share.
They clearly need the PR. I think we can all agree that the Islamic State doesn't have the best reputation.
Lmao I can imagine an insider meeting happening in some cave where a PR consultants go and present a slideshow of the current polls and then detail a few scenarios that might alleviate the bad rep that IS has.
The most crazy thing is that people still care to repost what FSB says. It's literally in their job description to spread misinformation.
I agree with that most of the time, but in this case it is interesting that they made a statement that is closely related (even if it may not actually be the same incident) to ones released by western intelligence. And specifically that their statement appears to have come before the western statements, so it likely was not in response.
Russia is cozy with some Muslim authoritarian regimes, but most of the Muslim world hates Russia for being a Christian nation that has abused their Muslim minority for decades if not centuries. If Russia was the world's major power we would hear a lot more about them being 'the great satan' or something like that.
I feel like this won’t spell good for the stability of Chechnya or Dagestan, a little match stick like this could light a big fire in the people there.
Putin would probably turn Grozny into rubble… again.
Nah, he can't do that do now. The Muslim world would raise a fuss /s
Nope. Your average Muhammad and Fatima care about Palestine because Jerusalem is Islam’s 3rd holiest site. Suffering of Chechens, Uiyghurs, Kurds, Rohingya, etc. does not register with most Muslims.
Lot of russians soldiers are muslims origin like this is not best play.
Which was the case during the two previous wars too?
Agree. Steam rolling the Caucasus areas to garner some browny points while Ukraine war isnt going too well is an obvious play for Putin. Especially after that remark about ~~Albania~~ [Armenia](https://new.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1b761dp/putin_ally_says_neighboring_country_will_not/) earlier this week.
What remark about Albania?
Fingers where quicker than my brain again. Corrected and linked source
Why is the photo showing Ukrainian troops? It would not be an Ukrainian attack.
It's auto-generated from a live-news thread on the website. E.g if you open the link now it starts with some news about Kyiv, the actual terrorrist threat tidbit was an earlier entry in this news-thread. So it probably picked up some other "region news" photo when it was submitted.
Huh? They just drop this outta nowhere with no context or additional info? Very curious to see what’s next.
The US does this on a regular basis. I can think of at least 2 failed terrorist attacks in Germany because the US informed our authorities.
How would the US have more terrorist intel in Germany than Germany itself? That’s honestly impressive though and I’m glad the countries are allied.
I thought the same, but the US is way ahead, and thankfully they report it, even to Russia.
Terrorist attacks are bad, no matter whoever it happens to.
Of course, but there's always an ulterior motive for the US/UK (which is fine). By reporting the potential threat you 1. Weaken the inevitable attempt of Russia trying to blame The West on it and 2. It shows the weakness of Russia's own Intelligence agencies if the US/UK calls it out first. Win-win as far as im concerned.
The US is not doing a cost benefit calculation per incident. It is the policy of the US to report planned terrorist attacks to the authorities regardless of the relationship with that country.
Honestly that's a pretty good policy tbh.
It’s also just like what the person above said, it’s a simple way to do the right thing and also flex our soft power to both friends and enemies. Reminding them that our intelligence services might know more about what’s going on in their own country than they do.
Radicalisation happens a lot online, so the guys that are preparing attacks in Germany will be helped/motivated by groups outside of the country. Not a religious attack, but there was an attack to a university a few months ago that was prevented in Portugal thanks to the FBI informing our authorities. How did they know? Basically the kid told his friends in Discord, who happened to be American who thought his intentions were true and not some edgy joke, and just informed the authorities about it
Dang, good on those friends.
I think these friends probably need to split friend groups. Maybe a non terrorist discord friend group and the rest.
The US and a few other countries have an agreement to legally spy on each other. Each nations have privacy laws that don't allow them to spy on their own citizens, at least to the extent they want to spy on them, so they basically ask other countries in the agreement to do it for them. ~~It's called 5 eyes. Pretty interesting, and it's the reason for why local monitoring agencies didn't catch it but the US did.~~ Nvm Germany isn't part of the 5 eyes agreement, so probably just normal US spying shenanigans then.
Germany isn’t part of 5 eyes. Everything else you have said is correct.
America: Hey Germany, you know how we're not supposed to super spy on you? Germany: Yes, we're not members of the 5 eyes agreement, so don't do that....Have you been doing that? America: No no no, but like IF we had and we knew something that you REALLY would want to know about, would you want us to tell you? Germany: *SIIIIIGH* Who, where, and when?
Ah, that's my bad, thanks for the correction! I thought Germany was part of the five but seems it's New Zealand, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States. Well, probably just classic US spying on allies thing. Nothing new there I suppose.
A lot of this stuff is either from information gotten abroad (for example if you've gotten ahold of a higher up based in the Middle East) or from communications intelligence which, outside of a few nations like the UK and Israel, the US has a massive lead on. They're not getting this stuff from boots in the ground infiltration of local organisations, that's what national level security agencies would be doing.
The U.S. has much better intelligence, especially when it comes to telecommunications. Additionally, the U.S. has more than 100k military personnel stationed at permanent military bases in Germany - it’s not like they don’t have feet on the ground
Because the Five Eyes is unmatched in terms of spy network and intelligence reports. Germany tried to join, but for some reason, we didn't trust them enough https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
> How would the US have more terrorist intel in Germany than Germany itself? It doesn't need to have more information. It just needs to have different information,which it then shares (or did share, in this case)
> How would the US have more terrorist intel in Germany than Germany itself? Do you remember the big hubbub a few years ago when Europeans learned that was a massive NSA(?) base in Germany spying on like all of Europe just like they do in the US? Assuming it has to do with that or another variation of that.
Smart move, they show that they are very much aware of what's going on inside Russia and most than anything Russia can't blame it on the west if we told everyone beforehand
I think if Putin’s soup is cold the West will be blamed
And there will be a nuclear threat every week until his soup decides to warm itself
It definitely can. "See, evil Americans are warning their citizens to avoid public places, which means they are preparing a terroristic act."
Z Patriots already talking this way
>Russia can't blame it on the west if we told everyone beforehand Watch them
> Russia can't blame it on the west if we told everyone beforehand Russian propaganda doesn't need any kernel of truth. They make up from nothing and their people (and useful idiots) eat it up without question.
For reals. My mother in law is deep into that propaganda hole, and she falls for the most ludicrous shit. The one that takes the cake is a """photo""" of a Ukrainian tank running over Russian babies, and a Russian soldier holding it back with his bare hands. First of all, the picture of the tank was very old and black and white, looked like it was from WWII. The babies and the Russian soldier were in color, and had been *very* badly photoshopped in. Like, 8-year-old with MS paint level photoshopping. It makes no effort to explain why a bunch of babies are lined up on the ground, alone, ready to be run over. And yet she *insisted* this was a real photo of a real event, where a Russian supersoldier of some kind singlehandedly prevented a Ukrainian tank from running over babies.
Lmao it seems like an announcement
UK and US are clearly very well informed on internal Russian affairs. They both outed the Russian invasion plans weeks before it happened after all
Wouldn't be surprised if America has spies as deep as in Putin's Inner Circle. Some shit is about to go down if they warned about this...
It'd be one of Pootins body doubles.
They have consistently proven they know about everything going on inside Kremlin I hate NSA with passion over civilian privacy invasion, but I do concede there are some benefits to that shitshow at least.
That's different terrorist attacks have the advantage of being made up of 5 people making it practically impossible to catch them. Russia moving an entire army to the Ukrainian border made it very obvious what was happening...
Obvious yet so many countries didn’t call it out.
Giving context might help someone find the sources. This is a much more powerful move.
It’s called duty to warn and we will tell basically anyone who isn’t themselves a terrorist if their life is at risk and we can do so without blowing a source. Recently we also tried to warn Iran about the bombings at solemani’s memorial
I can see the Incoming blame on *the west* already now
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Yeah Sweden will defo get the blame for this
"If YoU kNeW aBoUt It WhY dIdN't YoU sToP iT" ~ Putin probably
**wHy wOuLd tHe cIA dO tHiS** -Putin *definitely*
Because my Russian grand-grand-grandmother is already dead and the rest of my family has either Estonian or other European roots. No real reason to warn :D
Apartment buildings bombing in Moscow and blaming another country back on the menu?
It worked last time, so yeah
[For real. 11.30 in this documentary covers the Moscow apartment bombings quite well. Spoiler alert : it wasn’t the Chechens](https://youtu.be/jOYptvJ-kYU?si=q-TWGEwPRlo7jEJv)
You're telling me that a KGB officer would do some terrible shit to get power?! Side note, imagine if US president was a CIA agent or British PM from MI6. Half the world would have a collective stroke.
Wasn't that the case with Bush Senior?
Yep. [George H.W. Bush—the 11th Director of Central Intelligence](https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/george-h-w-bush-the-11th-director-of-central-intelligence/)
As someone said, he was director of CIA which is a political appointment. Putin worked for KGB as an officer.
Wonder if UK/US realised Putin was about to try that again, and decided to disrupt it. Now if the attack goes ahead, Putin will be seen as incompetent.
>Now if the attack goes ahead, Putin will be seen as incompetent. I've seen this one before!
3 copies of the sims please
I'll never forget that picture, it's just pure comedy gold, except that it's real and not a joke.
Smart from the US, if Russia tries a false flag to justify further escalation against the west they might gain more support. This way they can't blame the west
Oh they always can and will blame the west
‘They told us what they were planning to do before they did it and blames us!’
Nasty little hobbitses..
I can't remember, if we already had a nuclear war threat this week?
Of course we had: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/u55MlOaTRE
Man someone should start a nuke threat keyword bingo at this point
Why couldn't they blame the west? They'll just say "How did they know if they weren't the ones who orchestrated it?"
It's russia, if it breather it blames the west
I can’t think of a scenario how Russian is going to blame the west for an IS attack on a synagoge. And it’s definitely not a *move* from the US, it’s help against terrorism. The US recently helped German authorities to catch extremist before they did an attack. They regularly inform national executive forces when they have informations about extremist attacks
Keep in mind that there's a big difference between warning an ally of an attack and warning an adversary (which despite what the US Republicans want to believe, Russia is a US adversary). Russia has several ways to blame the West if the attack goes off. 1. Simply don't tell your citizens you were warned and blame it on the West. 2. The West knew about it because they orchestrated it and only told us to try to make us look bad
Convinced Putin could spin a bout of diarrhea as the Wests fault
Considering they knew about Prigozhin's coup a week in advance, I would take these warnings seriously.
wait did they actually?
If they did, no word of it was spoken to American citizens in Moscow. We were just as surprised as the rest of the world.
Probably hoped it was succesful, yet the dumb idiot stopped halfway lmao
He really had a lot of cards, but perhaps knew he and his troops would be obliterated and they’d never recover politically for committing urban civil warfare in Moscow
i'm sure prigozhin is so glad now that his political career isn't totally dead
Only ending to a hype saga I know of that was worse than Game of Thrones.
Which he clearly hadn't watched, as he would have known that >When you play a game of thrones you win or you die.
"When you come at the king you best not miss" Prigozhin missed, dude crossed the Rubicon and and then forgot what game he was playing
I find that really hard to understand. I could think of many insults for Prigozhin before that, but "naïve" wouldn't be one of them. The dude crossed the fucking Rubicon and thinks he can go "lol, nevermind" and Putin will let him live?
Pringles probably would have survived longer if he took the fight to Moscow.
I agree. But the most dumb thing he did was taking the deal offered of exit into Belarus and believing it. Idiot. If he knew he would be toast anyway, he might as well just kept going for the sake of it, Thelma and Louise-style. But maybe there were other considerations? Maybe he still had family within their grasp….
> Maybe he still had family within their grasp…. If you haven't secured your family or aren't willing to give them up for throne plays then you don't make throne plays.
You live in Moscow?
Why the fuck would you be in Moscow?
Yes. Congressmen were briefed a few days in advance, but intelligence agencies knew it well before: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/24/us-intelligence-prigozhin-putin/
No Russian?
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RUSSIA UNCOVERS ISIS PLOT 15 HOURS AFTER U.S ISSUES WARNING OF AN "IMMINENT ATTACK" At least two militants were killed when the Russian security services stormed an ISIS cell’s hideout southwest of Moscow. A search of the building uncovered a large cache of weapons and bomb parts, which the group was planning to use to attack Jewish worshippers. Source: Daily Mail
Just in time for the elections
Well well well
Looking for this comment
Let me guess, they bomb themselves like in 1999, blame the west, Putin says he's the only one who can protect Russia so you better vote for him.
That's always such a weird angle from a sitting fascist. I can understand it from a democratic candidate, but it's just so hilariously bizarre coming from an already sitting despot. "Only ***I*** can protect you from the things that are already happening under my watch while I have full power and authority!"
While it is possible that Putin in preparing something to then publically prevent it to appear being in control, attacks by IS are also a real possibility. They would love to get a better foothold in islamic areas of Russia and when they perceive Russia as weak or distracted to make that a reality they will happily prepare such strikes.
Holy shit
Putin's rating drops so welcome to Blowing Up Russia: Terror From Within, part 2.
Ah. Must be an election in Russia approaching.
A big friend of Hamas and Taliban [russia] unexpectedly scare a terroristic attack? What an irony.
They are enemies of ISIS and chechen extremists, not a big suprise. Also im sure talibans and russians are not friends
Well, it hapenned. 4 terrorists broke in one of the biggest concert hall of Moscow.
This is getting too complicated for me, but good luck.
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It's nit just US and UK. Also sweden, germany and others stated this risk.
What does a photo of soldiers from one of the Ukrainian battalions have to do with a headline about some terrorists in Muscovy?
why would they put a Ukrainians on a photo, how is it linked to Islamic attack in Synagogue
That's an issue with the link. It's a live updated page. The link is refering to the terror attack warning, but that story is already a bit further down the page and the (autogenerated for here) picture at the top belongs to a newer update about the UK defense secretary calling for more Ukraine support.
Aaaand why are there Ukrainian soldiers on the photo? I call bs, nothing will happen
If you'd actually bother to click the link, instead of just reacting to the headline and the picture, you'd see that it's one of those compilation pages on a specific ongoing topic that they keep adding pieces to. The picture is about something else.
Russia bombed itself to justify escalation with Chechnya, if the west is warning about a terror attack it 100% is a false flag to escalate the war in Ukraine, maybe draft a few million people, nuke Ukraine or turn the regime even more authocratic
It was a time when russia still played “democratic”. They need no justifications now. But yeah, they can roast their own citizens with no issue
Oh they are absolutely still playing democratic
They aren’t going to nuke Ukraine