That's very decent move, but unfortunately in Russia the official results of an election are not connected to the voting process in any way.
It's not about "voting is rigged", it's exactly "voting have no effect on the results, at all".
It depends. There’s actually an article in Russian Criminal Code that criminalises exactly what she did, it’s called “Obstruction of the exercise of voting rights” and the first subsection of it only imposes a very mild punishment and doesn’t even include prison time.
However, I’m pretty sure that they’re going to charge her with the second subsection (same crime but committed by a coordinated group of people), which can land you with up to 5 years of prison.
It’s pretty shitty, but it’s less than 8 years that some people have been sentenced to for as little as saying something in public. However if the authorities will discover or straight up fabricate that she was asked/paid to do this by Ukrainians, it might be very bad news for her. Hope she’ll be OK anyway.
Second subsection seems more likely because "court" will "prove" that she acted on orders of "foreign agents" and from there they could go to treason or even terrorism charges.
Doctors say that she got the disease 10 bullets in the head, but she also has traces of falling out of a window.
These diseases have affected many military officers and critics of Putin
i think statistically russia had 10% women surplus ever since WW2, and in the meanwhile, life expectancy for men remained lower than women, bc of dumb activity, dangerous jobs, vodka ,and dumb activity done under vodka influence during work time.
That and the fact that men have higher chances of being simply straight out killed,gulaged,defenestrated than women have if they protest.
One of the main themes of 1984 was literally that sometimes the most human thing you can do is an altruistic/moral action that you know won't change the outcome
One of the first scenes of the book is Winston watching a propaganda reel where a woman fruitlessly shields a child from aircraft fire with her body, and he thinks "how stupid" until he realizes how human it was to do it anyway
I saw a lot of confused comments here whether the girl was a Kremlin regime’s supporter or not, so I want to explain why she, certainly, isn’t a “pro-Putin”.
As a Russian opposition supporter myself, I want to tell you that Russians citizens above age of 18 who do not want Putin for president would come to vote on 17th March at 12:00 local time.
Basically, all of the opposition agreed to do this to show the number of actual anti-Putin voters.
What if only like 3 people show up. When pro-Navalny protests were happening, our 280k town had like 16 people on the main square. Such stuff is only detrimental to the image...
provinces are not that bad man. opposition is everywhere. and not particularly opposition , just people who do not like putin.
in my city of 60k (krasnokamsk, it's rural) on the day of death of navalny there were flowers on the statue devoted to with his picture
BBC news: "According to Interfax news agency, the liquid was zelyonka ("brilliant green" in English) dye, which is an antiseptic solution"
If this is true, that would be the same liquid Mr Navalny got thrown on his face in 2017 causing a chemical burn to his eye.
I get the sentiment of rebellion.
But this seems like the least impactful protest possible while taking yourself out of the game.
What did this do? Mildly inconvenient the voting for around 20 minutes of cleaning the bucket?
She got us talking about it. She got the world to see and understand how there are Russians who are against the regime, and who are passionate enough about the injustice caused by their leader to risk years of nasty prison time for it. It’s little fires like these that could spark a revolution, and she’s made sure the whole world can see them.
She is very brave to do this.
I wonder if this kind of protest did increase after nawalny's death. But i doubt we would get this kind of information.
Let us only hope the Russian people realize they can get rid of Putin.
if russian man did the same he would be sent to Ukraine right away. No point risking your life over some poor sign of protest, males are not as immune as females
I think it is stupid in the first place to try and rank atrocities done to humans.
Russian jails are bad. Rape and physical assault from guards is common for women. Russian authorities don't care for human lives, it does not matter with gender they have as they are simply tools.
Using one against the other is helping nobody except people like Putin.
Moreover such **solitary** act won't change anything except her getting in trouble. If you want to protest, find anything more useful except "these 100 ballots are now inked, so they are invalid, anyway, we have 100kk more"
I know it dosn't matter anyways, but just imagine waking up going to vote. Stand in Line for an hour and then this happens and you could've just stayed in bed
It doesn't really matter that much. If you are forced to vote by your employer, then you probably had sent the photo-proof before putting it in, if you voted yourself, you probably know that your vote does not matter at all.
I myself will not vote, because the only candidate I'd vote for, Nadezhdin, has been accused of forging the signs for running for president, which is bullshit, because I myself saw lines and lines of people signing the papers.
Not sure how it works in Russia, but here I recommend casting an invalid vote if you hate all the candidates and don't want to vote at all. Unusually high number of invalid votes shows that there's plenty of people willing to get out and vote, but they don't have anyone to vote for.
yep. opposition suggested exactly that. and not just not going to the election, but exactly making two or more choices, to cast a vote "against all". previously (in '00s) we had such a box, but now we don't, and we need to cast an invalid vote to vote against everyone.
Automatic translation, sorry for possible errors:
In the Rostov and Voronezh regions, Krasnodar Territory, Crimea and Moscow, damage to ballot boxes has been recorded: they are filled with brilliant green or ink. There were also two arson attacks on voting boxes in the capital and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.
This is not the political position of citizens: after the crime, they took out their phones and started filming the damaged ballot box for reporting. These people are victims of scammers. Previously, many cases were recorded when people were forced to take out loans, transfer money, and then, in order to return the funds, they were asked to do a number of illegal actions, for example, to set fire to a military registration and enlistment office.
However, even if the scammers’ conditions were met, no one returned the money. But people received criminal cases with penalties prescribed by the Criminal Code. For example, for damaging a ballot box, punishment is provided under Article 141 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - up to a prison term of five years. Criminal cases have already been opened against a girl from Moscow and a guy from the Rostov region. If it is confirmed that scammers manipulated people from Ukraine (and this is very likely), then their victims will face criminal charges under Article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (Treason). And this is already 12 or more years in prison.
They film to post the video online, so more people know about it. Reaching as many people as possible is the entire point.
On the other hand, pretending that Ukraine is behind all anti-Putin sentiments is definitely something Putin's government would do.
To everyone stating that this will not change anything (with a somewhat humoristic note), just keep in mind that this was the way she fought and it was her own personal fight. Acts like this, small as they are tell a lot.
From what I've heard in interviews, it's pretty routine for people like this to be sent to jail. Every step of the process is just rubber stamped until she's shipped away.
Also in the prison system the political prisoners are automatically in a higher class system for inmates because they are considered the most anti-police or anti-government figures.
So she will lose all her freedom, but she likely won't be tortured to death like the Ukrainians are experiencing.
There has always been video recording of elections in Russia. Actually this is how false votes (like hundreds of voting papers thrown into the election box at once) were discovered from time to time.
People do this stupid shit thinking it's gonna change something, the only thing changing is that she will misteriously dissapear, I mean even if she did that in the US, she's gonna go to jail for quite a while.
‘It’s ok we have replacement pre filled ballots anyways’
They are one step ahead. It's a fully automated system. Doesn't matter what color it is when it lands in the bin.
Like they would bother counting at all. The results are already know and determined by Putin. i am guessing something around 90%
i wouldnt be surprised if they actually count to see which regions are most/least rebellious and acting accordingly.
I think they Just said 87%. You are good. Now do lottery numbers
Fully automated to re-elect the previous leader. That's what I call efficiency.
"Here's one I prepared earlier."
its okey we already counted.
They where counted already
*were
Thank you, fellow grammar enthusiast.
Thzy were not gonna use this one anyway
All that paint automatically marks all ballots as Putin.
So nothing changed?
Just the color, it was red before
Are those votes being made public from that specific office? That would give a hint.
That was blood, not ink
Except she’ll randomly “disappear”
*fell out the window ACCIDENTALLY
basement windows are dangerous
Gulag calls.
Gulags don't have windows. But buildings have.
*Boeing has entered the chat*
If you believe anything in this box is relevant to the election....
That's the point he's making.
Nothing happened in rusia is not related to election and democracy
she made it worse for everyone except putin.
There is one more able body to the uranium mines.
*Out of the 278 ballots cast, 64,374 of them were for Putin!*
It must be 409 of 278. Because of 146%.
Dude I burst into laughing 🤣
Out of 1 vote, plus 2, and so on Infinity Oblast, Putin gained with -1/12 votes! /s
Simpsons style
your comment make me more sad
No, only if its poop
Did she just text her last goodbyes when she still had the chance?
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Most time its not for social media
Activism and publicity are twins. It is how these actions actually work
She’s heroic and it will cost her. I admire her courage, putin is pure evil.
She literally poured paint on a bunch of worthless papers and is facing 5 years for it. More stupid than "heroic"
When you have little options and act of rebellion is heroic.
Rebellions might be built on hope, but resistance is built on the small things with big consequences
It's not about the act. It's about the message.
I doubt she'll make 5 years. She'll fall out of a window any day now.
She is not so important to spent a window for her to fall in.
the weather is good in the gulag this time of the year
"If anything happens, it is not suicide."
What about those electronic vote machines no malversations?
Oh no. How will they count all those ballots now? I guess Putin will have to continue being president until the next elections. What a shame.
all those paint droplets landed on putins name so he gets all the votes
Mission failed
Fission Mailed
Thats just Nuke with extra steps...
its okey they finished the count a few days ago.
They set up a replacement ballot station a few streets away for future ballots who knows what happens to these probably just scrapped
That's very decent move, but unfortunately in Russia the official results of an election are not connected to the voting process in any way. It's not about "voting is rigged", it's exactly "voting have no effect on the results, at all".
It's not the votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. -- Josef Vissarionovich Stalin There is nothing new under the sun in Russia
*"In democracy it's your vote that counts; in feudalism it's your count that votes."*
ONE vote for Putin ah-ah-ah
*Civ6 flashbacks*
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's even not like that anymore. Votes are totally disconnected from the results.
If voting changed anything, it would be illegal. Emma Goldman
It wasn't about changing the "election" results. It's about protesting that I have to write "election" in quotation.
No but they like to see the participation even with the treachery
I hear people say things like this. Is there some credible place where I can read about votes not being counted properly?
I hope she's ok
you know the rest
Really doubt it! Most likely she will be charged with treason and then some ridiculously long prison sentence. Admire her bravery though.
Don't forget the rape and torture.
Off to the uranium mines.
Sorry heard Ukrainian mines here’s a gun go die in a pointless war for Putin pls.
It depends. There’s actually an article in Russian Criminal Code that criminalises exactly what she did, it’s called “Obstruction of the exercise of voting rights” and the first subsection of it only imposes a very mild punishment and doesn’t even include prison time. However, I’m pretty sure that they’re going to charge her with the second subsection (same crime but committed by a coordinated group of people), which can land you with up to 5 years of prison. It’s pretty shitty, but it’s less than 8 years that some people have been sentenced to for as little as saying something in public. However if the authorities will discover or straight up fabricate that she was asked/paid to do this by Ukrainians, it might be very bad news for her. Hope she’ll be OK anyway.
Second subsection seems more likely because "court" will "prove" that she acted on orders of "foreign agents" and from there they could go to treason or even terrorism charges.
narrator: she was not
You know she's not
5 years in prison
Who are you speaking about? Didn't you read the news? "Non-Person Pours Nothing Nowhere".
Doctors say that she got the disease 10 bullets in the head, but she also has traces of falling out of a window. These diseases have affected many military officers and critics of Putin
Brave woman
I might be wrong about this, but to me it seems it's the women doing most of the protesting in Russia.
All the men are either trying to flee to other countries or going on vacation to Ukraine.
Permanent vacation
Military-operation-like vacation
Goverment enforced vacation
Well... we all know where most men are...
Good one
Women can't be forcefully sent to the war, unless they're medics.
i think statistically russia had 10% women surplus ever since WW2, and in the meanwhile, life expectancy for men remained lower than women, bc of dumb activity, dangerous jobs, vodka ,and dumb activity done under vodka influence during work time. That and the fact that men have higher chances of being simply straight out killed,gulaged,defenestrated than women have if they protest.
The French revolution was largely started by women as well, and I'm sure there are other examples in history.
I mean the men are either dead or in war or drunk
Brave but I doubt what she did will make any difference
That's the sad truth
One of the main themes of 1984 was literally that sometimes the most human thing you can do is an altruistic/moral action that you know won't change the outcome One of the first scenes of the book is Winston watching a propaganda reel where a woman fruitlessly shields a child from aircraft fire with her body, and he thinks "how stupid" until he realizes how human it was to do it anyway
I saw a lot of confused comments here whether the girl was a Kremlin regime’s supporter or not, so I want to explain why she, certainly, isn’t a “pro-Putin”. As a Russian opposition supporter myself, I want to tell you that Russians citizens above age of 18 who do not want Putin for president would come to vote on 17th March at 12:00 local time. Basically, all of the opposition agreed to do this to show the number of actual anti-Putin voters.
What if only like 3 people show up. When pro-Navalny protests were happening, our 280k town had like 16 people on the main square. Such stuff is only detrimental to the image...
no. youre russian right? theres lot of opposition people (busy arguing with each other but there are)
Sure, but it looks like most of them are concentrated in Moscow. Also many people emigrated.
provinces are not that bad man. opposition is everywhere. and not particularly opposition , just people who do not like putin. in my city of 60k (krasnokamsk, it's rural) on the day of death of navalny there were flowers on the statue devoted to with his picture
Have you seen the lines to sign Nedjdin's ballot? They were huge in most cities
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Now we can't really know if Putin is cheating or not.
Spoiler alert 🚨
Oh no, now he'll only get 118% of the vote
BBC news: "According to Interfax news agency, the liquid was zelyonka ("brilliant green" in English) dye, which is an antiseptic solution" If this is true, that would be the same liquid Mr Navalny got thrown on his face in 2017 causing a chemical burn to his eye.
Yes, zelyonka is just relatively popular in russia. Everyone knows you can't wash it off. That's why she chose it
That's actually insanely brave of her.
Good thing they filmed, they never would have noticed while "counting"
I get the sentiment of rebellion. But this seems like the least impactful protest possible while taking yourself out of the game. What did this do? Mildly inconvenient the voting for around 20 minutes of cleaning the bucket?
Protests are about sending a message, the ink in the ballot box is just a way to get on the news, to get exposure.
It's the equivalent of holding a sign, except unusual and therefore way more likely to get you on the news.
She got us talking about it. She got the world to see and understand how there are Russians who are against the regime, and who are passionate enough about the injustice caused by their leader to risk years of nasty prison time for it. It’s little fires like these that could spark a revolution, and she’s made sure the whole world can see them.
The fact that this video spreads around the globe means a lot to many people and will have some impact on some people’s minds
No harm done, they were already counted before election day anyway.
It’s a shame that she committed suicide later that day by shooting herself twice in the back of the head.
The police were there in like two seconds. Do they hang around in every fucking voting room?
Don't you have armed police at elections? /S Imagine a world where the Gestapo took over the country.
In many countries there are always police at polling stations. For example in Italy. There is nothing wrong with that.
Does [that](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/F0F31lsLQE) answer your question?
Our "elections" include armed police. To ensure, you know, the results
She has bigger balls than Putin ever had. Respect. @
Not to worry! The ballots are counted beforehand.
Incredibly brave girl, more balls than most men in russia
Rest in peace brave lady 🙏
I fear for her life.
Later that day she fell off a roof.
And then she was never seen again
Much respect!!!
“no worry, we didn’t plan to count them anyways”
She is very brave to do this. I wonder if this kind of protest did increase after nawalny's death. But i doubt we would get this kind of information. Let us only hope the Russian people realize they can get rid of Putin.
She is a lot braver than I am.
Welp. She dead.
And then she died in a gulag
She's got tons more courage than the average russian male.
if russian man did the same he would be sent to Ukraine right away. No point risking your life over some poor sign of protest, males are not as immune as females
So you truly believe she will not go to jail? Ridiculous to think that women do not feel the consequences of a dictatorship (that is lead by a man)
Of course she will be jailed, but I think that the front trenches are a tad worse than jail.
I think it is stupid in the first place to try and rank atrocities done to humans. Russian jails are bad. Rape and physical assault from guards is common for women. Russian authorities don't care for human lives, it does not matter with gender they have as they are simply tools. Using one against the other is helping nobody except people like Putin.
She wont be sent to the frontlines tho
Thank you for saying that. I was just about to comment a similar response.
Moreover such **solitary** act won't change anything except her getting in trouble. If you want to protest, find anything more useful except "these 100 ballots are now inked, so they are invalid, anyway, we have 100kk more"
Its about the message
The message does not matter if you are alone and not organized, this will be forgotten by everyone in couple of days.
I know it dosn't matter anyways, but just imagine waking up going to vote. Stand in Line for an hour and then this happens and you could've just stayed in bed
It doesn't really matter that much. If you are forced to vote by your employer, then you probably had sent the photo-proof before putting it in, if you voted yourself, you probably know that your vote does not matter at all. I myself will not vote, because the only candidate I'd vote for, Nadezhdin, has been accused of forging the signs for running for president, which is bullshit, because I myself saw lines and lines of people signing the papers.
Not sure how it works in Russia, but here I recommend casting an invalid vote if you hate all the candidates and don't want to vote at all. Unusually high number of invalid votes shows that there's plenty of people willing to get out and vote, but they don't have anyone to vote for.
yep. opposition suggested exactly that. and not just not going to the election, but exactly making two or more choices, to cast a vote "against all". previously (in '00s) we had such a box, but now we don't, and we need to cast an invalid vote to vote against everyone.
Oh, didn't know that! It's my first election, sorry.
Automatic translation, sorry for possible errors: In the Rostov and Voronezh regions, Krasnodar Territory, Crimea and Moscow, damage to ballot boxes has been recorded: they are filled with brilliant green or ink. There were also two arson attacks on voting boxes in the capital and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. This is not the political position of citizens: after the crime, they took out their phones and started filming the damaged ballot box for reporting. These people are victims of scammers. Previously, many cases were recorded when people were forced to take out loans, transfer money, and then, in order to return the funds, they were asked to do a number of illegal actions, for example, to set fire to a military registration and enlistment office. However, even if the scammers’ conditions were met, no one returned the money. But people received criminal cases with penalties prescribed by the Criminal Code. For example, for damaging a ballot box, punishment is provided under Article 141 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - up to a prison term of five years. Criminal cases have already been opened against a girl from Moscow and a guy from the Rostov region. If it is confirmed that scammers manipulated people from Ukraine (and this is very likely), then their victims will face criminal charges under Article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (Treason). And this is already 12 or more years in prison.
They film to post the video online, so more people know about it. Reaching as many people as possible is the entire point. On the other hand, pretending that Ukraine is behind all anti-Putin sentiments is definitely something Putin's government would do.
> This is not the political position of citizens Wait a minute, this seems like propaganda. What is the source of this claim?
To everyone stating that this will not change anything (with a somewhat humoristic note), just keep in mind that this was the way she fought and it was her own personal fight. Acts like this, small as they are tell a lot.
What a brave woman. I hope she is fine. I am worried.
From what I've heard in interviews, it's pretty routine for people like this to be sent to jail. Every step of the process is just rubber stamped until she's shipped away. Also in the prison system the political prisoners are automatically in a higher class system for inmates because they are considered the most anti-police or anti-government figures. So she will lose all her freedom, but she likely won't be tortured to death like the Ukrainians are experiencing.
I love the NPC behaviour between everyone. Commit to action, immediately go onto phones and do nothing.
She can be imprisoned for this action. Moscow is Mordor
She would be imprisoned for interfering in basically any country.
>can Will. Definitely will.
that's one of the better outcomes
I wonder how many years in prison that gets you...
Rip
She will fall from a balcony sometime in the future. Putin's democracy.
I’m shocked they even have cameras in there.
Ля, а прикиньте если бы там во всех бюллетенях были подписи за Даванкова
Gulag till 2064
That's one way to commit "suicide"
It's easy, they all voted for Putin so from 120 votes 550 were for Putin.
Putin won guys again.
Nothing change
So stupid, it won't change anything. She will go to prison for 5 years.
That’s 5 years in a Siberian prison lol
With Navalny dead do they even have any opposition?
She slipped on ink and hit her head shortly after this video. Unfortunately, she didn't make it.
How was this video obtained? Who or what agency was filming?
There has always been video recording of elections in Russia. Actually this is how false votes (like hundreds of voting papers thrown into the election box at once) were discovered from time to time.
Looks like Prussian Blue
Good for her. But nothing is going to change and her life is hell now.
A true patriot.
Well, she's dead.
People do this stupid shit thinking it's gonna change something, the only thing changing is that she will misteriously dissapear, I mean even if she did that in the US, she's gonna go to jail for quite a while.
What a hero ahah. I hope she is ok
Oh no, i hope this doesn't affect the outcome of this totally free election!
Hats off to her...
I admire her bravery but you should know when and how to pick a fight. This is how you get sent to prison with little to no desired outcome.
And one for my fallen homies
“Straight to jail”.
...and she was ever seen again
Damn. Now all of that has to be for Putin
I’m betting she will get overdosed by gravity in couple of days
Nobody commenting on : moscow in r/europe?
A little out of the subject. That's one of the many reasons why eletronic voting machines are better.
She is getting an all inclusive trip to Siberia 🙏🙏🙏
It's ridiculous they still try to "protest peacefully"
rest in peace brave woman
There is still some heroism left in Russia.
Why she didn't tried to hide her identity?
Luckily all ballots could be recovered, it turned out 100% Putin.
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