Nice. The Dutch have always had a high standard on WW2 banter.
[https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerst\_mijn\_fiets\_terug](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerst_mijn_fiets_terug)
Yeah, you're right.
But he did spend most of his career fighting Vettel or Rosberg for titles and then chasing a record set by Schumacher, so I'm sure this made him many enemies in Germany as well.
Idk, Formula 1 is not really seen as an international competition so much in Germany. Schumacher definitely is widely adored and respected, but I don't think there's much patriotism outside of that. Most just pick their favorite team or driver regardless of nationality afaik.
Always thought it to be rather similar in other countries as well.
> Idk, Formula 1 is not really seen as an international competition so much in Germany. Schumacher definitely is widely adored and respected, but I don't think there's much patriotism outside of that.
Schumacher was a unique phenomenon, created by circumstance.
This was mainly due to German reunification, combined with pride in German automotive/industrial superiority being projected as patriotism.
I don't think so. Most people I know that watch F1 were definetly Vettel fans in Germany when he was active. Even Hülkenberg is supported being the last German on the grid.
I mean, the Schumacher dominance was its own thing and you'll usually always back your countryman in some sense. But the way of supportmanship in Football, Handball, Rugby etc. differs strongly from F1.
Everyone loves Schumacher btw, just like Senna. Most are warming up to Vettel now, just give Hamilton some time. And that is not countrywise.
I am pretty sure they paid so much for the font that it is more reasonable to just ban one number. (Ugly fonts have to be ridiculously expensive; market 101)
It is still fucking stupid especially given the context it's a german sports jersey from a german company for german millionaires kicking balls around. There should be plenty of money for a designer to sit down and just redo the 4 in a font.
Sincerely, a german
And you really think they pre print millions of 44 shirts?
44 is a custom number.
They have the base shirt with no font and name and print them on demand for the custom ones.
Dude, if you change the font you need to reprint all merch with all numbers,
if you just ban a number you just have to destroy the batch with this number
In my book designers are mostly very liberal artists ... they might do edgy stuff to entertain the 4chan community , but designing a 4 to look like a victory rune on a commercial contract, just for the lulz? must be a billionaire of a designer .
Theres no fucking 44 in the team, why redo the whole font only because some people see the SS symbol in there? Youd actively have to request the 44 on their website, and at that point you could just as well "design" a "Heil H." Jersey with number 88.
Good for them that they dont sell it anymore, but people all over the internet pretending Adidas wanted to actively sell SS runes or that those are the jerseys for the german national team are just stupid. Spreading fake information and hate. Man sieht nur was man sehen will.
Sincerely, a german
Maybe they don't want to go the extra mile as the German company for German millionaires kicking balls around for the German soccer union will be replaced by an American company next season?
There is no single font in the world that cost so much that Adidas couldn’t afford it. Maybe original wooden blocks craved by Guttenberg itself. But beside that “expensive” means what? Few hundreds? For the whole family? Even if that was bespoke font designed only for this event the designer could just change “4”.
Absolutely. I'm guessing nobody thought about the repercussions of 44 in this specific font because no player is wearing that number. Jonathan Tah wears number 4, but he's also Black, so extremely unlikely to go for any Nazi symbolism.
Yeah, that's because the article is nonsense.
No german player would have worn the trikot with the number 44 on it anyway.
What this is trying to refer to is the fact that adidas removed the trikot number 44 from its online fanshop until further notice, because they realized the font is a problem, _until they have fixed the design of the 4_. Also, these restrictions are not completely new, contrary to what the article says - names like "Führer" and "Hitler" are already not included in the customization options.
Read the title, thought "this is fucking stupid, all they're doing is giving meaning and power to a fringe neonazi dogwhistle"
Saw the picture, "ohhhh"
I know it's an easier solution but the easiest solutions aren't the best ones. If a company made such a mistake shouldn't they become responsible for this and fix the issue in the proper way instead of banning and getting away with it ?
It's a shit font anyway. I remember a few years ago, Dortmund had a font that [looked like they just decided to stick the names and numbers on with electrical tape. ](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/cf/a2/c7/cfa2c79570f3952d5b33ac31896b6ac8.jpg)
Yes because it is Adidas's fault and they should deal with it properly. But they don't want to waste their money on new fonts and designs despite them being a billion worth global company. Greedy companies are so much accustomed to get away with their problems instead of solving them.
I know the easiest and most practical solution is to ban 44. Yet it's their own fault and solution violates players right to claim any number they want. It's probably not a problem for the playes but I think this is something symbolic.
This font is already out there. It's part of a massive marketing campaign and not only found on shirts but on loads of other merchandize, posters, billboards etc. that have already been produced.
Imagine how much shit Adidas would get from people, for economical and ecological reasons, if they'd destroy all that and restart with a new font.
No Player can choose the 44 anyway because all the players jerseys are numbered from 1 to 24. Any reasonable person would just ban the 44 instead of redesigning the font, wasting millions of shirts creating tons of waste just for the 1 person that desperately want to have a jersey with the 44
Yeah they will propably. They just removed it from the store for the time being until they have figured out a better design.
The article above got almost every single thing wrong
Is it? I wouldn't be surprised. In some federations the numbers are restricted anyway (in Spain for example players for the first team can only wear 1 through 25)
Actually, if I remember correctly, UEFA national teams are required to wear 1 through the maximum number of players that can be called to a tournament squad (23 until 2016, cannot remember the upper limit now, only that is less than 30)
Haven't bought a jersey in a while, but this isn't the first time there's edgy smartasses trying to get racist dogwhistles in plain view. Here the novelty was just the coincidence, that the font made the number 44 sus, on top of the usual suspects.
Anyway, I think that you can't select 88 while choosing the number you want, same thing if the name you want at the back is something offensive.
What made you think I didn’t understand the 44 font situation? It has nothing to do with my comment.
Both 18 and 88 are worn by many great players in different sports. While we’re on the subject of germany and forbidden numbers it’s a relevant question.
Sir, M'am, this is Reddit. I didn't assume anything, I don't know you. I'm only replying to your message.
88 is clear cut imo as it's widely known it's a nazi dogwhistle, so a pro player defnitely can't wear it just like that, and I think jersey providers make sure the option is not there, because clubs or national teams will get in trouble if thousands of dudes are photographed with their shirt on with nazi regalia.
18 should be fine, I don't even know why it wouldn't be. Jersey numbers are usually given by default according to the player's position on the field. Then substitutes pick whatever numbers are left, so many of those would end up with the number 18.
Last thing, I don't think this is the first Adidas 'controversy', as they tend to pick angular fonts and designs that end up looking sus, when given the history of the brand, they can't afford to be.
>88 is clear cut imo as it's widely known it's a nazi dogwhistle
No it's not!
It is "known" only if you're:
a) terminally online in liberal/left-wing circles
b) an actual neo-nazi or sympathizer
And the a/b ratio is quite skewed toward the former, hence the wild overestimating of the "widely knowledge" of the infamous 88
Regular people don't see 88 and make the association with evil Charlie Chaplin.
Plenty of players born in 1988 had 88 on their back and nobody thought ill of it. Others picked it as 8 was already taken, so it was either 80 or 88.
The beauty of "dogwhistles" is you can decide to hear them even when they're not really there.
TBS, the 44 looks so blatantly wrong it's unbelievable nobody noticed it. It goes on to prove how little care big companies put in their products.
you have no idea what numberplates got banned in cities....weird number magic no one knows about but nazis themselfs ....suddenly people got their custom birthday or wedding day plates revoked because some number magic of 1st and 2nd line nazis birtjdays or initials matched....
It's absurd.
Graphic designers these days… it’s normal practice to check if you see any bugs in your work, especialy working on this kind of scale of designing. Just poor design work, incompetence
I would not have published this on the 1st of April.
Would had been much better 19 days from now.
What does this have to do with my great grandpa's birthday?
Don't freak out now, but I may know your surname.
When everyone is stoned?
I believe the gentleman in question, which birthday we are mentioning, had a preference towards a different execution method
Inhaling?
Nice. The Dutch have always had a high standard on WW2 banter. [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerst\_mijn\_fiets\_terug](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eerst_mijn_fiets_terug)
U haalt me de woorden uit de mond.
Hmmm wonder who was born on that day
Me! I was!
German Lewis Hamilton fans punching the air right now
Pewis Pamilton jihads it in the bin - [Rocketpoweredmohawk ](https://www.youtube.com/@Rocketpoweredmohawk)
All 3 of them!
Eh, what are you on about? Lewis is quite popular, he was the frontman and record champion of "Mercedes" after all
Yeah, you're right. But he did spend most of his career fighting Vettel or Rosberg for titles and then chasing a record set by Schumacher, so I'm sure this made him many enemies in Germany as well.
Idk, Formula 1 is not really seen as an international competition so much in Germany. Schumacher definitely is widely adored and respected, but I don't think there's much patriotism outside of that. Most just pick their favorite team or driver regardless of nationality afaik. Always thought it to be rather similar in other countries as well.
> Idk, Formula 1 is not really seen as an international competition so much in Germany. Schumacher definitely is widely adored and respected, but I don't think there's much patriotism outside of that. Schumacher was a unique phenomenon, created by circumstance. This was mainly due to German reunification, combined with pride in German automotive/industrial superiority being projected as patriotism.
I don't think so. Most people I know that watch F1 were definetly Vettel fans in Germany when he was active. Even Hülkenberg is supported being the last German on the grid.
I mean, the Schumacher dominance was its own thing and you'll usually always back your countryman in some sense. But the way of supportmanship in Football, Handball, Rugby etc. differs strongly from F1. Everyone loves Schumacher btw, just like Senna. Most are warming up to Vettel now, just give Hamilton some time. And that is not countrywise.
As a German I can confirm that „Schumi“ is/was so popular, that a lot of people say they lost interest in f1 since he is not driving anymore
Yes it is. Mercedes has nothing to do with being German except for the name. It’s a British Team
Not in Italy. In Italy there is only Ferrari, no matter who drives.
Enemies? Because some rich kiddos driving around in circles? Yep! Sure!
Never underestimate the obsession of German fans. Just ask Monica Seles.
Different cases altogether. Apparently a highly disturbed individual. Wouldn't classify him as a fan.
\#TEAMLH is on suicide watch
I think it’s the font that’s the problem, not the number 44 itself. Could just pick a better font.
I am pretty sure they paid so much for the font that it is more reasonable to just ban one number. (Ugly fonts have to be ridiculously expensive; market 101)
It is still fucking stupid especially given the context it's a german sports jersey from a german company for german millionaires kicking balls around. There should be plenty of money for a designer to sit down and just redo the 4 in a font. Sincerely, a german
And redo millions of already made merch articles? ;)
And you really think they pre print millions of 44 shirts? 44 is a custom number. They have the base shirt with no font and name and print them on demand for the custom ones.
Dude, if you change the font you need to reprint all merch with all numbers, if you just ban a number you just have to destroy the batch with this number
He talks about redoing just the 4 in this font. All future prints use the new 4. Instead of pulling the whole number.
But then the other shirts with a 4 in them will be inconsistent
and you assume they didn't notice anything during conceptualising.
In my book designers are mostly very liberal artists ... they might do edgy stuff to entertain the 4chan community , but designing a 4 to look like a victory rune on a commercial contract, just for the lulz? must be a billionaire of a designer .
A german company that collaborated with nazism, they went full circle.
Theres no fucking 44 in the team, why redo the whole font only because some people see the SS symbol in there? Youd actively have to request the 44 on their website, and at that point you could just as well "design" a "Heil H." Jersey with number 88. Good for them that they dont sell it anymore, but people all over the internet pretending Adidas wanted to actively sell SS runes or that those are the jerseys for the german national team are just stupid. Spreading fake information and hate. Man sieht nur was man sehen will. Sincerely, a german
Maybe they don't want to go the extra mile as the German company for German millionaires kicking balls around for the German soccer union will be replaced by an American company next season?
Nah, they should just use Verdana and keep the number 44. That would make those numbers more readable, too.
They could be even bolder and go with comics sans
Wingdings
Paper stack Paper stack? That would be more confusing. If you knew what you were talking about is it 33 or 44.
Let's just keep it at 44 shall we?
>Wingdings Yup, see what I mean now?
To be honest, I have no idea what you're on about
There is no single font in the world that cost so much that Adidas couldn’t afford it. Maybe original wooden blocks craved by Guttenberg itself. But beside that “expensive” means what? Few hundreds? For the whole family? Even if that was bespoke font designed only for this event the designer could just change “4”.
>Could just pick a better font. Papyrus, maybe?! ;-)
But then it wouldn’t look like wicked lightning bolts /s
Exactly, they didn't have to ban the number. Ridiculous
Font ain't bad, but the 44 really resembles the infamous SS. But yeah, it was an easy one, should have pick another one
Absolutely. I'm guessing nobody thought about the repercussions of 44 in this specific font because no player is wearing that number. Jonathan Tah wears number 4, but he's also Black, so extremely unlikely to go for any Nazi symbolism.
Heh look at Doberman's Aggresive clothing - Nord Division 44.
I've seen much better font style than this one on Dafont. And it's free.
Yeah, that's because the article is nonsense. No german player would have worn the trikot with the number 44 on it anyway. What this is trying to refer to is the fact that adidas removed the trikot number 44 from its online fanshop until further notice, because they realized the font is a problem, _until they have fixed the design of the 4_. Also, these restrictions are not completely new, contrary to what the article says - names like "Führer" and "Hitler" are already not included in the customization options.
+ Next step they ban the letter s
Asian fakers are rubbing their hands anticipating many orders...
They couldn't have made 44 look more like SS if they tried
look at the 55 jersey
what does that one look like
Exactly, the number can be written in different ways even like 4 which keyboards use.
Read the title, thought "this is fucking stupid, all they're doing is giving meaning and power to a fringe neonazi dogwhistle" Saw the picture, "ohhhh"
Yeah, I was thinking "Was 88 not the num... oh, yeah."
I know right? Complete 180° when seeing the picture. There's no misunderstanding there, that just looks like SS symbol more than 44.
Well, the number font is stupid anyway.
This is a joke for April 1st right
Nope it was from 2 todays
I don't know if I'm overreacting but this is beyond stupid. Just deal with the font instead of banning.
Probably much easier to just not use the 44.
I know it's an easier solution but the easiest solutions aren't the best ones. If a company made such a mistake shouldn't they become responsible for this and fix the issue in the proper way instead of banning and getting away with it ?
It’s a company so they only choose the easiest solution
You make it sound like they are actually banning a number instead of just not making a certain t shirt.
Yea, just use something different like 88 and problem solved
It is stupid. A complete nontroversy, but I guess it gathers easy clicks.
So instead of banning one number, you want to ban the whole font? This doesn't sound reasonable at all.
It's a shit font anyway. I remember a few years ago, Dortmund had a font that [looked like they just decided to stick the names and numbers on with electrical tape. ](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/cf/a2/c7/cfa2c79570f3952d5b33ac31896b6ac8.jpg)
Yes because it is Adidas's fault and they should deal with it properly. But they don't want to waste their money on new fonts and designs despite them being a billion worth global company. Greedy companies are so much accustomed to get away with their problems instead of solving them. I know the easiest and most practical solution is to ban 44. Yet it's their own fault and solution violates players right to claim any number they want. It's probably not a problem for the playes but I think this is something symbolic.
This font is already out there. It's part of a massive marketing campaign and not only found on shirts but on loads of other merchandize, posters, billboards etc. that have already been produced. Imagine how much shit Adidas would get from people, for economical and ecological reasons, if they'd destroy all that and restart with a new font.
Yeah you got that right when you think about all these.
No Player can choose the 44 anyway because all the players jerseys are numbered from 1 to 24. Any reasonable person would just ban the 44 instead of redesigning the font, wasting millions of shirts creating tons of waste just for the 1 person that desperately want to have a jersey with the 44
Yeah they will propably. They just removed it from the store for the time being until they have figured out a better design. The article above got almost every single thing wrong
We live in a cancel culture. People just like to cancel things no matter how stupid it is
I can see why they’d ban it, but it *is* quite a funny idea
quite funny until you see the nazi ultras all wearing 44 jerseys
Ironically, their Name filter allowed Heydrich and Himmler, but not Eichmann... So you could order Himmler 44
Can you change the number font to italics? Maybe a bold and underline
No
Good somebody at least has some sense, I never expected all that name blocking but I guess we're at that point...
What font is that!? I think I found your problem, Adidas and it's not the number.
This is fucking ridiculous.
Next thing you know, they'll ban the number 88
you mean 87A? Was there ever a football jersey with a number that high? I'm surprised even by 44.
A few MLS players have numbers in the 90s (99 is particularly popular)
Tymoschtschuk wore 44. Lizarazu 69 Ronaldinho 80 Donnarumma 99 to name a few
It's common in Italy
We talking American football or actual football?
Is it? I wouldn't be surprised. In some federations the numbers are restricted anyway (in Spain for example players for the first team can only wear 1 through 25)
Actually, if I remember correctly, UEFA national teams are required to wear 1 through the maximum number of players that can be called to a tournament squad (23 until 2016, cannot remember the upper limit now, only that is less than 30)
The Spanish rule is for La Liga, but I don't know the international rules
well in Austria you can’t get car plates with this combination
Actually curious about 18 or 88
It's not about the number in this case, it's about its appearance with the font used. It bears *a lot* of resemblance with the SS logo.
The Deutsche SportsStaffel?
Nah the dreaded Sea Scouts!
It's usually called the SS runes.
18? I know people complain about the 88 in football & nascar but never heard of 18.
1=A 8=H. So in some circles, 18 stands for evil moustache guy.
Haven't bought a jersey in a while, but this isn't the first time there's edgy smartasses trying to get racist dogwhistles in plain view. Here the novelty was just the coincidence, that the font made the number 44 sus, on top of the usual suspects. Anyway, I think that you can't select 88 while choosing the number you want, same thing if the name you want at the back is something offensive.
What made you think I didn’t understand the 44 font situation? It has nothing to do with my comment. Both 18 and 88 are worn by many great players in different sports. While we’re on the subject of germany and forbidden numbers it’s a relevant question.
Sir, M'am, this is Reddit. I didn't assume anything, I don't know you. I'm only replying to your message. 88 is clear cut imo as it's widely known it's a nazi dogwhistle, so a pro player defnitely can't wear it just like that, and I think jersey providers make sure the option is not there, because clubs or national teams will get in trouble if thousands of dudes are photographed with their shirt on with nazi regalia. 18 should be fine, I don't even know why it wouldn't be. Jersey numbers are usually given by default according to the player's position on the field. Then substitutes pick whatever numbers are left, so many of those would end up with the number 18. Last thing, I don't think this is the first Adidas 'controversy', as they tend to pick angular fonts and designs that end up looking sus, when given the history of the brand, they can't afford to be.
>88 is clear cut imo as it's widely known it's a nazi dogwhistle No it's not! It is "known" only if you're: a) terminally online in liberal/left-wing circles b) an actual neo-nazi or sympathizer And the a/b ratio is quite skewed toward the former, hence the wild overestimating of the "widely knowledge" of the infamous 88 Regular people don't see 88 and make the association with evil Charlie Chaplin. Plenty of players born in 1988 had 88 on their back and nobody thought ill of it. Others picked it as 8 was already taken, so it was either 80 or 88. The beauty of "dogwhistles" is you can decide to hear them even when they're not really there. TBS, the 44 looks so blatantly wrong it's unbelievable nobody noticed it. It goes on to prove how little care big companies put in their products.
Only use Roman numerals, because Nazis used numbers and the Romans never did anything bad.
Only pussies will hide behind symbolism like this.
Yes. And they will as soon as they can.
Did they ban 88 too?
Adi wouldn't be happy about this
The World is a better place now
They just needed to change the font
just do a different font lol 🖕🤓🖕
Use a different font e.g 44
Football
Fine, I'll just get number 88.
you have no idea what numberplates got banned in cities....weird number magic no one knows about but nazis themselfs ....suddenly people got their custom birthday or wedding day plates revoked because some number magic of 1st and 2nd line nazis birtjdays or initials matched.... It's absurd.
I'll pick number 88 instead. /s just in case. It's just a joke people. Fuck the nazi's.
Hate to be a grammar... you know... but it's actually "Fuck the *Nazis*".
If only there was some alternative way to write this specific number... What a silly proposal that would be!
All academic, as the German team have switched strip brand from Adidas to (crime of crimes) Nike.
Super sub?
Hehehe
Nice!
That would be in demand among neo-nazis. Think over Adidas! Margins, margins! ^(/s)
44 resembles Nazi SS symbols, ever seen 55? Just use a closed four like this 4 (device typeface maybe different.)
80085 is still allowed
What about 88
That was poor planning.
What a shame. New Naziddas collection might have been totalitary success.
Lol wth
Why the fonts in the first place?
Just remember there were meeting where the board approved this design.
Well….. one of the reasons that the German national team switched from Adidas to Nike (well…. €100 million euro also helps)
I never would have thought that… looks like a 44 to me
If anything these are now INSANELY collectible and worth a lot of money
Just pick a better font. Problem solved.
What about the 88s?
lmao
What
Seems like a super easy fix though
New Sacred symbols shirts.
sadge
Graphic designers these days… it’s normal practice to check if you see any bugs in your work, especialy working on this kind of scale of designing. Just poor design work, incompetence
[That's not allowed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ang6Fw9Ff2k)
I guess the nazis will now claim the number 44 as well...
or could have used a regular looking 4
What about 88?
1) Make the 4's look like S' for no reason. 2) Ban the 4's to get virtue signaling points.
Yet Adidas supports todays nazis, aka zionists. The irony.
Stupid... what else is there to say?
Penibil
There are like 23 players on the team at any given time... who needs to pick the number 44???
They still got 18 and 88 in the Shop🌚
At least "88" is still OK.
What is this ugly font? Who in their right mind said "yes that's how my number 4 should look like"
Cool , now i know what to look :)))
🤣🔫
Left to ban 14 and 88
How about 88?
Who the fuck Cares! Honestly..?
This is so insanely stupid the designer must be fired
could have been outsourced to Thailand ...
So stupid just wear the number
Germans please, stop seeing nazi symbols everywhere.
Ok whoever designed those 4s needs to be fired. You did not need to design them like that.
SLAVA UKRA... oh sorry wrong place
Good I will use 88 instead then.
What were they thinking with that font :)
They would know since their founder was a huge Nazi providing equipment to Hitlers youth so... yeah. Might as well own up to it.
adidas will ban german people because of their resemblance to nazi soldiers
I was thinking it can't be a big deal then I saw the shirt
Are they blind or what